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Post by jkempf1 on Dec 9, 2014 17:39:20 GMT 1
Yes, that's right, I forgot to buy a Rotherham ticket and now I'm one of the poor saps begging for one. So please, if you do find you can't go or know someone else who can't PM me and I'll snap it up. Make someones Christmas!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2014 17:43:30 GMT 1
There'll be a load of empty seats on the day due to over indulgence on Christmas Day. Not that that's any use to you.
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Post by jkempf1 on Dec 9, 2014 17:44:52 GMT 1
There'll be a load of empty seats on the day due to over indulgence on Christmas Day. Not that that's any use to you. Well thank you Mr. Smooth
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Post by teddytheterrier on Dec 9, 2014 17:46:50 GMT 1
You could try and get in the home end but best hurry think there's only 200 tickets left
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Dec 9, 2014 18:01:12 GMT 1
Leeds would have been a perfect home or away fixture for most on boxing day ,and surely the F A should realise this when sorting the fixtures. .
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Post by jkempf1 on Dec 9, 2014 18:06:21 GMT 1
Leeds would have been a perfect home or away fixture for most on boxing day ,and surely the F A should realise this when sorting the fixtures. . Yeah that would've been {quality}
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Post by Syran on Dec 9, 2014 20:52:12 GMT 1
You can have mine for say.... £3000
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Post by jkempf1 on Dec 10, 2014 10:43:01 GMT 1
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Post by Sedgeterrier on Dec 10, 2014 11:12:17 GMT 1
Leeds would have been a perfect home or away fixture for most on boxing day ,and surely the F A should realise this when sorting the fixtures. . Yeah that would've been {quality} Why? If it was away we still wouldn't sell out due to most fans principles of not paying £36
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Post by bluedogs, Esq. on Dec 10, 2014 11:17:33 GMT 1
Yeah that would've been {quality} Why? If it was away we still wouldn't sell out due to most fans principles of not paying £36 SPOT ON
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Post by Tanzanian Terrier on Dec 10, 2014 12:15:26 GMT 1
You can have mine for say.... £3000 Don't take any notice of this post he is ripping you off................ you can have my 5 for £3000!!!!!
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Post by jkempf1 on Dec 10, 2014 12:53:55 GMT 1
I'm gonna keep bumping this, I'm sure at some point somebody will realise they can't go...and i'll just be sat here...waiting...
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Dec 10, 2014 14:34:40 GMT 1
Why? If it was away we still wouldn't sell out due to most fans principles of not paying £36 SPOT ONQuestion is - would town have sold more than 2,500 tickets against Leeds on boxing day even at £36 a ticket . My point was simply that alot more fans would have been given the opportunity to attend the match,and less transport problems getting there. Even better if this same match was at the John Smiths. The F A need to look into this matter as some clubs are loosing vital income over the xmas period,and boxing day should be any possible derby day ie Charlton v Millwall - Town v Leeds -- Norwich v Ipswich - Blackburn v Bolton - Fulham v Brentford -Birmingham v Wolves-Derby v Nottingham Forest etc etc . Take a look at the championship boxing day fixture list over the xmas period, and look at the journeys required for some of the above mentioned clubs that could have been made far easier..
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Post by Sedgeterrier on Dec 10, 2014 16:16:05 GMT 1
Question is - would town have sold more than 2,500 tickets against Leeds on boxing day even at £36 a ticket . My point was simply that alot more fans would have been given the opportunity to attend the match,and less transport problems getting there. Even better if this same match was at the John Smiths. The F A need to look into this matter as some clubs are loosing vital income over the xmas period,and boxing day should be any possible derby day ie Charlton v Millwall - Town v Leeds -- Norwich v Ipswich - Blackburn v Bolton - Fulham v Brentford -Birmingham v Wolves-Derby v Nottingham Forest etc etc . Take a look at the championship boxing day fixture list over the xmas period, and look at the journeys required for some of the above mentioned clubs that could have been made far easier.. Doubt we would get more than 3000 at Elland Road on boxing day though. Would be good if we had them at home like.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Dec 10, 2014 16:57:18 GMT 1
there are many other issues to take into account re the fixture list, that's why its done by a computer which is fed in information from lots of sources and with other events that are taking place around the country during the football season. Added to the boxing day fixtures are the small matter of 45 other fixture lists, international breaks etc etc.. The computer works out the 'best' all round fixture lists as is possible to account for all vested interests as best it can. We now have sky as the fly in the ointment to contend with. If the above fixtures 'suited' all the interests 'best' that would be the Boxing day list, it clearly does not and it isn't. No conspiracy to get at the supporters its just a wee bit more complicated than some would have us believe.
if one club or ten clubs get all their fixtures just how they wanted them on the dates/days they wanted them then its obvious a load of other clubs wouldn't.. fairly obvious I would have thought that changing one days list to all local derbies would leave a lot of other teams travelling hundreds of miles???
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Dec 10, 2014 18:06:57 GMT 1
there are many other issues to take into account re the fixture list, that's why its done by a computer which is fed in information from lots of sources and with other events that are taking place around the country during the football season. Added to the boxing day fixtures are the small matter of 45 other fixture lists, international breaks etc etc.. The computer works out the 'best' all round fixture lists as is possible to account for all vested interests as best it can. We now have sky as the fly in the ointment to contend with. If the above fixtures 'suited' all the interests 'best' that would be the Boxing day list, it clearly does not and it isn't. No conspiracy to get at the supporters its just a wee bit more complicated than some would have us believe. if one club or ten clubs get all their fixtures just how they wanted them on the dates/days they wanted them then its obvious a load of other clubs wouldn't.. fairly obvious I would have thought that changing one days list to all local derbies would leave a lot of other teams travelling hundreds of miles??? Shame the computer was not fed information regarding the vital revenue gained for clubs who could have had a full house for a local derby boxing day match. How important is that when taking everything else into account..
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Post by swollentoe on Dec 10, 2014 20:02:05 GMT 1
Plus policing all these Derbys would be a nightmare
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2014 20:16:53 GMT 1
Why? If it was away we still wouldn't sell out due to most fans principles of not paying £36 SPOT ONFootball in general is to expensive at times. If every club got together and agreed to charge no more than £15-£20 for away fans, stadiums would be more full. I won't go to Norwich because of the price, if I was an Ipswich fan I might feel differant not having to spend as much as a Huddersfield fan does to travel to Norwich. What are Norwich thinking? I hate paying £36 at Leeds but I'm an atmosphere junky and want to see is beat Leeds so I pay it. If it went a pound over that I'd seriously consider a boycott. Wigan would get my upmost respect if they sent every single ticket back to Leeds and doubled the price for Leeds fans going to Wigan. It's about time fans stopped paying it together rather than a few here and there. Football without fans is nothing.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2014 20:21:37 GMT 1
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Post by softboy on Dec 10, 2014 21:50:43 GMT 1
By looking at the Christmas fixtures (overall) and the number of local games during the week in a season i would say the football league computer wants to make it as difficult as possible for fans to attend local games - just like the police then! Or perhaps the football league computer is based in New Scotland Yard.
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Post by bluestripe on Dec 10, 2014 22:12:09 GMT 1
there are many other issues to take into account re the fixture list, that's why its done by a computer which is fed in information from lots of sources and with other events that are taking place around the country during the football season. Added to the boxing day fixtures are the small matter of 45 other fixture lists, international breaks etc etc.. The computer works out the 'best' all round fixture lists as is possible to account for all vested interests as best it can. We now have sky as the fly in the ointment to contend with. If the above fixtures 'suited' all the interests 'best' that would be the Boxing day list, it clearly does not and it isn't. No conspiracy to get at the supporters its just a wee bit more complicated than some would have us believe. if one club or ten clubs get all their fixtures just how they wanted them on the dates/days they wanted them then its obvious a load of other clubs wouldn't.. fairly obvious I would have thought that changing one days list to all local derbies would leave a lot of other teams travelling hundreds of miles??? Shame the computer was not fed information regarding the vital revenue gained for clubs who could have had a full house for a local derby boxing day match. How important is that when taking everything else into account.. Not sure I get your point. Rotherham will have a full house so they will be happy. Are you saying that only bigger clubs can be home on Boxing Day?
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Post by galpharm2400 on Dec 10, 2014 23:18:04 GMT 1
you make a few local derbies on a bank holiday and thereby sentence a number of other teams to shit/possibly very poorly attended long distance games..
46 games a season and the supporters of both teams are only one consideration in the listing..
Rotherham get a full house, Town get jack all. are you then going to argue that Town would have had a bigger crowd at home so Rotherham can piss off and the game venue is changed???
thinking before posting is very much encouraged..lots of things to consider when making up fixture lists..
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2014 23:36:45 GMT 1
Thing is Galph that we may have short memories. Season on season many yrs ago, the 'computer' then spat out lots of local Derbies on boxing Day/New Yrs Day. Has football really changed that much?
I'm not the bloke to run such an algorithm or stats assessment to prove that point but expect that if we reverted to an allocation process based on far less criteria we'd be far happier with the outcome...
There may also be some mileage in considering that the higher you climb, the geographical planning gets more difficult?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2014 10:29:27 GMT 1
We've got a "local" team at home 2 days later on the Sunday.
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Post by Torquayterrier on Dec 11, 2014 11:15:15 GMT 1
Could be worse, we seemed to have a run of getting Carlisle away on boxing day for a couple of seasons in league 1. Rotherham's pretty local, though obviously a problem those on public transport.
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Post by jkempf1 on Dec 11, 2014 17:22:06 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2014 19:05:59 GMT 1
I think you make a good point Suggy to be fair.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Dec 11, 2014 19:20:38 GMT 1
there are 2 bank holiday matches..Friday and sunday.. look at the fixtures for both.. the computer has tried its best.. someone will get shit on, cant be helped or avoided..
Rotherham away and Bolton at home is considerably better than it could have been. we travel about 60 miles round trip.. 2 hours or less.
not sure we have a case at all to be unhappy.. seem to forget there are 22 other clubs all wanting the same..the reasons for fixtures on certain days are not all financial..the bloke who runs the fixtures said sometime its just the games'have to be played sometime', which sort of shows that a computer cant sort out all of them, even with all the information its fed.
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Post by jkempf1 on Dec 12, 2014 18:01:13 GMT 1
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Post by jkempf1 on Dec 14, 2014 12:54:54 GMT 1
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