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Post by Venezuelan Pete on Dec 15, 2014 11:42:43 GMT 1
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Post by kes on Dec 15, 2014 11:49:47 GMT 1
Think they may have shown some lenience with the clubs that have failed but are at least making attempts to go in the right direction by actively reducing debts. Can`t see any other way Bolton have escaped. But B`mouth and boro appear to have spent like a labour chancellor on a drunken binge.
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Post by terrierng on Dec 15, 2014 11:53:56 GMT 1
Think they may have shown some lenience with the clubs that have failed but are at least making attempts to go in the right direction by actively reducing debts. Can`t see any other way Bolton have escaped. But B`mouth and boro appear to have spent like a labour chancellor on a drunken binge. Yeah i thought Bournemouth and Boro too but i think Bournemouth got quiteca windfall from some sell ons
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2014 11:57:42 GMT 1
should take points off them and fine them,
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2014 12:00:46 GMT 1
Think they may have shown some lenience with the clubs that have failed but are at least making attempts to go in the right direction by actively reducing debts. Can`t see any other way Bolton have escaped. But B`mouth and boro appear to have spent like a labour chancellor on a drunken binge. Yeah i thought Bournemouth and Boro too but i think Bournemouth got quiteca windfall from some sell ons Think they got 6m from the sale of Lallana to Liverpool.
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Post by scoffsablue on Dec 15, 2014 12:01:17 GMT 1
should be a transfer embargo and a 10 point deduction for all clubs falling foul of FFP....No point in fining them, they've already shown that they have no problems in flashing the cash.
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Post by terrierng on Dec 15, 2014 12:04:23 GMT 1
should be a transfer embargo and a 10 point deduction for all clubs falling foul of FFP....No point in fining them, they've already shown that they have no problems in flashing the cash. Exactly my thoughts,would stop it overnight, but the fl haven't the balls to do it.
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Post by terrierng on Dec 15, 2014 12:04:49 GMT 1
Yeah i thought Bournemouth and Boro too but i think Bournemouth got quiteca windfall from some sell ons Think they got 6m from the sale of Lallana to Liverpool. That's the one.
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Post by stevvy on Dec 15, 2014 12:05:03 GMT 1
No reason for them to be lenient on any club. Should be a transfer embargo and minimum 10 point deduction though
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Post by benmsmith4 on Dec 15, 2014 12:06:04 GMT 1
Sorry but points deductions are the only way of solving this. Despite calling it a transfer embargo, under certain circumstances the football league still permits these teams to exchange players as long as it's on a one-in-one-out basis. Far too lenient and a slap in the face to clubs like ours trying to do it right. Also how on earth have Bolton and Boro managed to avoid punishment?!
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Post by teddytheterrier on Dec 15, 2014 12:34:58 GMT 1
Not surprised by blackburn, paying Rhodes 50 grand a week can't be helping!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2014 12:36:53 GMT 1
Why would the clubs agree to deduct points from themselves? It was quite an achievement to get the current rules passed IMO. The FL is a member run organisation; it's not a judicial system.
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Post by brayfentos on Dec 15, 2014 12:39:29 GMT 1
hardly an embargo leeds can still sign players on less than 10k a week
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2014 12:44:48 GMT 1
FFP. what is the point? seems designed to keep the so called big clubs above the wise spending smaller clubs.
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Post by terrierng on Dec 15, 2014 12:47:51 GMT 1
Why would the clubs agree to deduct points from themselves? It was quite an achievement to get the current rules passed IMO. The FL is a member run organisation; it's not a judicial system. Fair enough but when one goes bust due to overspending then they should get no help,let em go,surely its onlyva matter of time, once one goes watch them get their finances straight, it would of been pompey but the pl saved them,wont happen for a fl club tho
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2014 13:00:35 GMT 1
Why would the clubs agree to deduct points from themselves? It was quite an achievement to get the current rules passed IMO. The FL is a member run organisation; it's not a judicial system. Fair enough but when one goes bust due to overspending then they should get no help,let em go,surely its onlyva matter of time, once one goes watch them get their finances straight, it would of been pompey but the pl saved them,wont happen for a fl club tho No it wouldn't, the prem has a seemingly never ending elevator in TV income. Would anyone predict that the next TV deal will be lower than the last one? I think the best thing would be an old club going to the wall. That's the only thing that'll sharpen minds. But none of the solutions are great - perfect FFP just locks in the status quo of the dominance of ex-Pren teams and big clubs.
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Post by terrierng on Dec 15, 2014 13:34:03 GMT 1
Fair enough but when one goes bust due to overspending then they should get no help,let em go,surely its onlyva matter of time, once one goes watch them get their finances straight, it would of been pompey but the pl saved them,wont happen for a fl club tho No it wouldn't, the prem has a seemingly never ending elevator in TV income. Would anyone predict that the next TV deal will be lower than the last one? I think the best thing would be an old club going to the wall. That's the only thing that'll sharpen minds. But none of the solutions are great - perfect FFP just locks in the status quo of the dominance of ex-Pren teams and big clubs. The pl doesn't give two shits about the fl though,they only saved pompey cos they were premier league at the time,say bolton go they wouldn't care,but the others who are overspending would
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2014 14:43:03 GMT 1
Bournemouth also received a huge fee for Grabban whom they sold to Norwich in the summer.
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Post by thenuggett on Dec 15, 2014 15:31:21 GMT 1
The clubs will laugh it off and carry on as normal. The embargo as conditions which could favour the clubs. As mentioned earlier points deduction is the only penalty that will hurt the clubs.
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Post by conman on Dec 15, 2014 15:43:00 GMT 1
In years gone by, they'd have been hung drawn and relegated..
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Post by Is It Eidur Gudjohnsen on Dec 15, 2014 15:58:39 GMT 1
In years gone by, they'd have been hung drawn and relegated.. ...and they'd be grateful!
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Post by AndySk on Dec 15, 2014 15:58:58 GMT 1
I hope they all go bust
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Post by galpharm2400 on Dec 15, 2014 16:21:38 GMT 1
its very nearly a waste of time. That it was always going to be the case isn't even an issue. Talk loudly and act softly when it comes to money. Act loudly, stupidly over react and be influenced by pressure groups when someone just says something that some don't like to hear???
The Football League is upside down???
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Post by Grandfather Berty of Cleck on Dec 15, 2014 16:50:11 GMT 1
This made me laugh.
Blackburn managing director Derek Shaw said: "Whilst the ruling will clearly present some difficulties, we will of course respect the rules of the Football League.
Arn't they in trouble BECAUSE they didn't respect the rules of the Football League??
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Post by galpharm2400 on Dec 15, 2014 16:59:42 GMT 1
financial rules are merely a guideline as we know. They are only there for clever accountants to bend or get around. Points deduction has to be the sanction. top/middle or bottom, very rich or poor it has serious consequences.
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Dec 15, 2014 17:19:50 GMT 1
The simple answer is to not allow clubs to profit in any way for breaking the fair play rules . Leicester and Q P R both broke these rules, and should not have been given the £120 +million honey pot after gaining promotion or any parachute payments if relegated. Failure then at premier league level would surely put both these clubs in financial difficulty, and then they might realise more why the fair flay rules were put in place .
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Post by bluedogs, Esq. on Dec 15, 2014 18:38:25 GMT 1
Not being allowed to sign players in January proofs the clubs are badly run clubs, the stigma that goes with having a embargo is far more damaging in the long term, and that is the true punishment imo.
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Dec 15, 2014 19:07:10 GMT 1
Give all three cheating clubs a 10 point deduction for starters, and 20 points if have been previously warned.. No club should be allowed to profit through flouting the rules, but fear certain clubs won't take note until examples are made.
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Post by kennyk2 on Dec 15, 2014 19:12:33 GMT 1
Athletes and cyclists found to be cheating and it's big news, whereas if it's a cheating football club, you've got to struggle to find it on the BBC sports page.
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Post by kosi on Dec 15, 2014 21:50:58 GMT 1
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