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Post by lochnessterrier on Dec 17, 2014 8:35:33 GMT 1
Seriously though, how on earth can you enforce a ban like that? If she walks through a turnstile at Accrington or Hartlepool will she really be turned away?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2014 11:02:42 GMT 1
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Post by Is It Eidur Gudjohnsen on Dec 17, 2014 12:18:52 GMT 1
Seriously though, how on earth can you enforce a ban like that? If she walks through a turnstile at Accrington or Hartlepool will she really be turned away? I have always wondered that! With high profile people I guess their faces are on turnstiles but there are too many scumbags out there to do that to. Maybe they look for a woman who looks photoshopped?? In relation to the book being torn up, doing the same to the bible would certainly put you in trouble in many parts of the world too. Its a deliberate provocative act that is only done to make a racist point. If there happened to be a copy under her seat and the game was so dull she decided to rip it up its one thing but bringing something to deliberately rip up is another. I suspect the real reason is the other incidents and probably the racist abuse she was probably spouting whilst doing it. |
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Post by teddytheterrier on Dec 17, 2014 12:21:27 GMT 1
Middlesbrough vs Hartlepool is a local derby, she would get noticed!
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Post by teddytheterrier on Dec 17, 2014 12:22:51 GMT 1
Was she at the John Smiths earlier in the season?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2014 16:14:00 GMT 1
Huddersfield Town have local coppers attending most if not all away matches, anyone on our banned list is likely to get spotted at the turnstiles.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Dec 17, 2014 16:17:32 GMT 1
Hope they are more successful than the admins were with that rabscallion eek a mouse
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Post by Solid Snake on Dec 17, 2014 16:51:02 GMT 1
Forgot to take her meds that day
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Post by Tinpot on Dec 17, 2014 17:09:18 GMT 1
If the other incidents include racially abusing someone then fair enough, she'll get whats due her and can have no complaints. But the crux of the story is that she tore up the koran. Seems a bizarre thing to take to a football match, but the story certainly implies that it was the tearing up of that book that was her main offence. I just didn't know there was anything illegal about tearing up a story book. Yep, racially abused stewards & threatened other spectators. Even if "tearing up a story book" was the only offence - there's a big difference between ripping up a copy of The Sun to use as confetti/ticker tape vs doing something that's obviously been designed to provoke hostility. I could make a paper crysanthemum & burn it in the street tonight, & nobody would bat an eyelid. If I burned a poppy 5 weeks ago (or even today) it would be a different matter. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2014 17:12:43 GMT 1
Huddersfield Town have local coppers attending most if not all away matches, anyone on our banned list is likely to get spotted at the turnstiles. I remember going to Selhurst Park years ago for a Wimbledon game (Vinny Jones era), and ended up next to a fella in a Terrier mask. Got chatting with him, he seemed a decent chap. Eventually he explained he wore the mask because he was banned!! That was the same night I woke, very drunk, and disoriented, in the small hours wanting the toilet, and only realised as the door clicked locked behind me that this was the corridor of the Kings Cross Holiday Inn and NOT my toilet. Thankfully I was sharing with a mate, but it took me ages to knock quietly enough to wake him up but not attract attention from any other rooms, in order to get back in. I was wearing only one sock!!! By the time he answered I was very sober and very needing of the toilet, and ran past his confused face at top speed...! |
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Post by terryya on Dec 17, 2014 17:16:41 GMT 1
Why would a 40 something Boro fan be carrying a Koran into a football stadium? Bingo. Mecca? |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Dec 17, 2014 17:25:52 GMT 1
'incitement'..its a smashing cover all word. Encyclopedia are full of 'facts' as are many other volumes. The Koran/Bible and other religious books are full of stories which suited the male dominated world at the time of their being written and have been studied and interpreted by men to suit men ever since. Their isn't a fact to be found and the many, many different versions and interpretations of these story books should render them as 'fiction' and possibly not even 'adult fiction' in the library.
To be honest if I ever even, almost believed that this country could or would deliver unbiased justice without FEAR OR FAVOUR on religious/race laws I might contemplate on re thinking my position on it. Wont happen, another stupid, ignorant person is taken to court and publicised whilst the dangerous go about their business, covered and hidden by these laws and the FEAR of these laws.
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Post by Detective Boyle on Dec 17, 2014 17:32:41 GMT 1
It's sad but I doubt if someone ripped up the Bible they'd get the same punishment.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2014 17:48:13 GMT 1
I used to tear up phone books, just to show off my strength. I gave it up after receiving threatening phone calls from someone calling himself Buzby. "You are not making me happy," he squawked.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Dec 17, 2014 17:52:06 GMT 1
religion has no part in my life. that said I have no intention of wilfully insulting or being abusive to anyone who has religious beliefs. To me its on the same level as intentionally insulting another blokes wife or kids or abusing someone who is overweight, no more no less. If you do it intentionally and get punched in the face, tough shit.
we made the mistake of making it 'more than that' years ago.
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Post by OldRastrickian on Dec 17, 2014 17:56:56 GMT 1
'incitement'..its a smashing cover all word. Encyclopedia are full of 'facts' as are many other volumes. The Koran/Bible and other religious books are full of stories which suited the male dominated world at the time of their being written and have been studied and interpreted by men to suit men ever since. Their isn't a fact to be found and the many, many different versions and interpretations of these story books should render them as 'fiction' and possibly not even 'adult fiction' in the library. To be honest if I ever even, almost believed that this country could or would deliver unbiased justice without FEAR OR FAVOUR on religious/race laws I might contemplate on re thinking my position on it. Wont happen, another stupid, ignorant person is taken to court and publicised whilst the dangerous go about their business, covered and hidden by these laws and the FEAR of these laws. Since the koran emphasises the inequality of the sexes, and the subjugation of women by men, it should be acceptable for a woman to tear one up.....and wipe her backside on it as well. |
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Post by 3Pipe on Dec 17, 2014 18:00:24 GMT 1
Hope they are more successful than the admins were with that rabscallion eek a mouse Rabscallion Eek a Mouse being rapscallion Eek a Mouse's Scottish brother I take it?  Eek knows the score... |
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Post by 3Pipe on Dec 17, 2014 18:02:39 GMT 1
religion has no part in my life. that said I have no intention of wilfully insulting or being abusive to anyone who has religious beliefs. To me its on the same level as intentionally insulting another blokes wife or kids or abusing someone who is overweight, no more no less. If you do it intentionally and get punched in the face, tough shit. we made the mistake of making it 'more than that' years ago. Kinell, you very nearly made a post without exclamation marks there, steady on galph'2400' lad. |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Dec 17, 2014 18:12:21 GMT 1
are you being 'exclamationst' there 3 pipe??? im shocked, horrified and feel abused.. im on the mobile with clark Carlisle as we speak..
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Post by 3Pipe on Dec 17, 2014 18:18:50 GMT 1
I treat all punctuation equally.
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Post by 3Pipe on Dec 17, 2014 18:21:48 GMT 1
Reminds me of one day not paying attention in class. My daydreams were interrupted by the teacher shouting at me. “Name two pronouns.”
I looked around and said, “Who, me?”
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Post by galpharm2400 on Dec 17, 2014 18:30:22 GMT 1
well Clarke and the white middle class lawyers association, think differently. I spoke to the Guardian features editor who after, initially telling me to 'f-ck off' then grasped the idea of turning another 'non story' into a massive over reaction after realising that I knew black and Chinese people who also may overuse 'exclamation marks' and we could all feel abused together...
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Dec 17, 2014 18:51:22 GMT 1
'incitement'..its a smashing cover all word. Encyclopedia are full of 'facts' as are many other volumes. The Koran/Bible and other religious books are full of stories which suited the male dominated world at the time of their being written and have been studied and interpreted by men to suit men ever since. Their isn't a fact to be found and the many, many different versions and interpretations of these story books should render them as 'fiction' and possibly not even 'adult fiction' in the library. To be honest if I ever even, almost believed that this country could or would deliver unbiased justice without FEAR OR FAVOUR on religious/race laws I might contemplate on re thinking my position on it. Wont happen, another stupid, ignorant person is taken to court and publicised whilst the dangerous go about their business, covered and hidden by these laws and the FEAR of these laws. Since the koran emphasises the inequality of the sexes, and the subjugation of women by men, it should be acceptable for a woman to tear one up.....and wipe her backside on it as well. I take it you and your cronies are fully paid up members of the radical feminist movement rastrick ? |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Dec 17, 2014 19:32:15 GMT 1
different interpretations of holy books go from one extreme to a lesser extreme!!!!!!!
I interpreted Harry Potter as a right load of old shit.. her indoors loved it all...
same with all Fiction....
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2014 19:46:40 GMT 1
Religion is crap.
Catholic Church is the worlds biggest Paedophile ring
God knows the things we have done around the world in the name of religion
Muslims are backwards and are no better than Scientology.a loopy cult
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Post by SaudiTerrier on Dec 17, 2014 20:00:42 GMT 1
Guaranteed this will turn into several discussions around the country and on several forums about religion and free speech, and everyone ignores the fact this woman is just generally a shitty human being. "Police said Phillips, who already had a lifetime ban from Middlesbrough's Riverside Stadium, caused or contributed to other acts of disorder" - Her own club had already banned her from their stadium and now literally every club in the country has as well. Think that shows what kind of person she is. Looks like I was right. |
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Post by Tinpot on Dec 17, 2014 20:07:09 GMT 1
religion has no part in my life. that said I have no intention of wilfully insulting or being abusive to anyone who has religious beliefs. To me its on the same level as intentionally insulting another blokes wife or kids or abusing someone who is overweight, no more no less. If you do it intentionally and get punched in the face, tough shit. we made the mistake of making it 'more than that' years ago. I would hope that somebody who went around repeatedly, intentionally insulting people's kids would also be given a ban. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Dec 17, 2014 20:31:06 GMT 1
If the other incidents include racially abusing someone then fair enough, she'll get whats due her and can have no complaints. But the crux of the story is that she tore up the koran. Seems a bizarre thing to take to a football match, but the story certainly implies that it was the tearing up of that book that was her main offence. I just didn't know there was anything illegal about tearing up a story book. Yep, racially abused stewards & threatened other spectators. Even if "tearing up a story book" was the only offence - there's a big difference between ripping up a copy of The Sun to use as confetti/ticker tape vs doing something that's obviously been designed to provoke hostility. I could make a paper crysanthemum & burn it in the street tonight, & nobody would bat an eyelid. If I burned a poppy 5 weeks ago (or even today) it would be a different matter. Im not defending her- shes obviously a right piece of work. Im just genuinely bemused that tearing up a book, any book, is illegal. And islam isn't a race the same way christians or hindus aren't a race, so im not sure tearing up that book can be regarded as 'racist'. She's hating a religion, not a race isn't she?. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2014 20:49:54 GMT 1
Huddersfield Town have local coppers attending most if not all away matches, anyone on our banned list is likely to get spotted at the turnstiles. I remember going to Selhurst Park years ago for a Wimbledon game (Vinny Jones era), and ended up next to a fella in a Terrier mask. Got chatting with him, he seemed a decent chap. Eventually he explained he wore the mask because he was banned!! That was the same night I woke, very drunk, and disoriented, in the small hours wanting the toilet, and only realised as the door clicked locked behind me that this was the corridor of the Kings Cross Holiday Inn and NOT my toilet. Thankfully I was sharing with a mate, but it took me ages to knock quietly enough to wake him up but not attract attention from any other rooms, in order to get back in. I was wearing only one sock!!! By the time he answered I was very sober and very needing of the toilet, and ran past his confused face at top speed...! Haha, brilliant, wonder which limb was wearing the sock though.  |
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Post by Tinpot on Dec 18, 2014 14:00:43 GMT 1
Yep, racially abused stewards & threatened other spectators. Even if "tearing up a story book" was the only offence - there's a big difference between ripping up a copy of The Sun to use as confetti/ticker tape vs doing something that's obviously been designed to provoke hostility. I could make a paper crysanthemum & burn it in the street tonight, & nobody would bat an eyelid. If I burned a poppy 5 weeks ago (or even today) it would be a different matter. Im not defending her- shes obviously a right piece of work. Im just genuinely bemused that tearing up a book, any book, is illegal. And islam isn't a race the same way christians or hindus aren't a race, so im not sure tearing up that book can be regarded as 'racist'. She's hating a religion, not a race isn't she?. Are you similarly bemused that burning a replica flower, any replica flower, is illegal? Were the courts wrong to prosecute the poppy burners in the photo I posted earlier? I never said that tearing up the Koran was racist, I think you've misunderstood me. My understanding of the situation is that her racially abusing a steward was a separate act to her tearing up the Koran. That said, even if that was the case - I think that's a case of arguing semantics. Tearing up the Koran was not an example of racism - it was an example of religious intolerance. I don't see any one form of bigotry as being any better or worse than another. |
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