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Post by benhomly on Dec 20, 2014 18:43:51 GMT 1
Sums us up perfectly at the moment. Ridiculous ball from Coady then why on earth didn't Robinson just let it go out rather than head it straight back to the opposition. And as for flapper Smithies the less said the better i think.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Dec 20, 2014 18:46:03 GMT 1
Sums us up perfectly at the moment. Ridiculous ball from Coady then why on earth didn't Robinson just let it go out rather than head it straight back to the opposition. And as for flapper Smithies the less said the better i think. Don't slag captain flapper smithies on here lol. Shit for that straight thru him
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Post by benhomly on Dec 20, 2014 18:48:55 GMT 1
Sums us up perfectly at the moment. Ridiculous ball from Coady then why on earth didn't Robinson just let it go out rather than head it straight back to the opposition. And as for flapper Smithies the less said the better i think. Don't slag captain flapper smithies on here lol. Shit for that straight thru him I've never got involved in the Smithies debate before but it's happening too many times for it to be a blip now.
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Post by Headless Chicken on Dec 20, 2014 18:51:02 GMT 1
Coady put him in a tricky predicament, but I reckon Robinson dare not leave it due to the likely daft reaction of a big chunk of the crowd. Man up and don't play up to the crowd.
Terrible performance and likely a very busy and vitriolic night on here.
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Post by ACW on Dec 20, 2014 18:52:31 GMT 1
Coady put him in a tricky predicament, but I reckon Robinson dare not leave it due to the likely daft reaction of a big chunk of the crowd. Man up and don't play up to the crowd. Terrible performance and likely a very busy and vitriolic night on here. A terrible performance from the players, but also a terrible, defensive approach from the management to a very winnable game.
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Post by richhtfc on Dec 20, 2014 18:58:06 GMT 1
Haven't seen the replay but looked at the time that Smithies went to punch it. Obviously it moved in the air but no way should he be looking to punch a free kick in that situation imo.
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Post by Headless Chicken on Dec 20, 2014 18:58:27 GMT 1
Coady put him in a tricky predicament, but I reckon Robinson dare not leave it due to the likely daft reaction of a big chunk of the crowd. Man up and don't play up to the crowd. Terrible performance and likely a very busy and vitriolic night on here. A terrible performance from the players, but also a terrible, defensive approach from the management to a very winnable game. Wouldn't disagree, there was a lot wrong today, and I was totally bored! However, I'll no doubt get nearly as frustrated by the drivel some of the resident morons will inevitably come out with.
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Post by calken on Dec 20, 2014 19:01:16 GMT 1
I didn't even think it was a free kick!
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Post by galpharm2400 on Dec 20, 2014 19:15:32 GMT 1
it was a shot on target. their only shot on target..
they will take the result. we will be told its about money but its not, we pay enough in wages to not to have to watch a poor standard sunday league team, huff and puff and produce virtually fuck all in the way of good football or even exciting football.
forget the wrong tactics from the start, forget the unbelievably poor start to the second half(who the fuck talks to them at half time and what the fuck do they say?), the 90 odd minutes was really, really dreadful standard football and we looked clueless, gutless and eventually pretty useless.
you cant hope to get enough points if you turn out every week in the hope of scoring from a set piece or a mistake, its fucking awful tactics and as a gameplan its embarrassing and shows powell has little or no ideas and he should not be given funds, he will waste whoever he brings in, just as he is wasting the players we have now. dean, ffs don't waste a penny on this bloke he will squander it, he hasn't a clue.
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Post by softboy on Dec 20, 2014 19:26:41 GMT 1
Anybody who blames Smithies for shit tactics by the manager needs a reality check
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Post by 3Pipe on Dec 20, 2014 19:30:15 GMT 1
Anybody who blames Smithies for shit tactics by the manager needs a reality check I don't think anybody is.
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Post by Grandfather Berty of Cleck on Dec 20, 2014 19:48:57 GMT 1
why on earth didn't Robinson just let it go out rather than head it straight back to the opposition. Can you imagine the shit he'd have got if he had just ducked and let it go out.
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Post by benhomly on Dec 20, 2014 19:53:50 GMT 1
why on earth didn't Robinson just let it go out rather than head it straight back to the opposition. Can you imagine the shit he'd have got if he had just ducked and let it go out. At least we'd have probably had a point out of the bloody game if he had. Or he could have tried to head it down the line - he couldn't have set up a more dangerous attack if he'd tried.
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Post by Grandfather Berty of Cleck on Dec 20, 2014 19:59:16 GMT 1
Can you imagine the shit he'd have got if he had just ducked and let it go out. At least we'd have probably had a point out of the bloody game if he had. Or he could have tried to head it down the line - he couldn't have set up a more dangerous attack if he'd tried. I'm sure he didn't think I'll try and keep this in knowing it would have gone to one of their players. If he'd have kept it in and Butterfield had set up an attack in which we scored the winner, we would have been praising him.
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Post by Captainslapper on Dec 20, 2014 20:53:22 GMT 1
The goal was terrible. Shit by coady, shit by Robinson and shit by smithies. Shame really because other than that i thought the defence looked more solid than its done for a long time. can't even remember them having a shot of any note. Thought gerrard played a big part in that and did well to say it was his first game for 7 months. Bit rusty in terms if his timing cos he misjudged a few headers and peltier looked good defensively in his true position even though he offers little to nothing going forward, but overall the back 4 did very well.
Midfield and attack though was a shambles other than bunn. Holt was dreadful, butterfield had his poorest game ive seen from him, Coady and hogg were poor, Scannell anonymous . 1 up front against Birmingham?? dear me. Thats so negative. powell had a shocker at norwich and a shocker today. To make matters worse the subs were fine but WAY too late in the day.Should have changed it 15 minutes before he did.
Been saying I haven't been bored at a game all season, but I have now.
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Post by shawsie on Dec 20, 2014 21:09:58 GMT 1
The goal was terrible. Shit by coady, shit by Robinson and shit by smithies. Shame really because other than that i thought the defence looked more solid than its done for a long time. can't even remember them having a shot of any note. Thought gerrard played a big part in that and did well to say it was his first game for 7 months. Bit rusty in terms if his timing cos he misjudged a few headers and peltier looked good defensively in his true position even though he offers little to nothing going forward, but overall the back 4 did very well. Midfield and attack though was a shambles other than bunn. Holt was dreadful, butterfield had his poorest game ive seen from him, Coady and hogg were poor, Scannell anonymous . 1 up front against Birmingham?? dear me. Thats so negative. powell had a shocker at norwich and a shocker today. To make matters worse the subs were fine but WAY too late in the day.Should have changed it 15 minutes before he did. Been saying I haven't been bored at a game all season, but I have now. Pretty much agree with all of that capn, particularly the defensive aspect. In terms of entertainment......close to nil and to lose at home to that brum team is particularly galling - they were poor and there for the taking but we set out negative, and stayed there. Shocking tactics and selections today - but even so, butterfield, coady and hogg gave as poor a central midfield trio performance as i can ever remember, and will somebody tell bloody smithies not to stand yds off his line for those free kicks........he does it regularly and is too often beaten like he was today! Shockingly poor pre xmas fayre and i cant see 15k turning up for the bolton game including min 2.5k from them!
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Post by benhomly on Dec 20, 2014 21:17:37 GMT 1
The goal was terrible. Shit by coady, shit by Robinson and shit by smithies. Shame really because other than that i thought the defence looked more solid than its done for a long time. can't even remember them having a shot of any note. Thought gerrard played a big part in that and did well to say it was his first game for 7 months. Bit rusty in terms if his timing cos he misjudged a few headers and peltier looked good defensively in his true position even though he offers little to nothing going forward, but overall the back 4 did very well. Midfield and attack though was a shambles other than bunn. Holt was dreadful, butterfield had his poorest game ive seen from him, Coady and hogg were poor, Scannell anonymous . 1 up front against Birmingham?? dear me. Thats so negative. powell had a shocker at norwich and a shocker today. To make matters worse the subs were fine but WAY too late in the day.Should have changed it 15 minutes before he did. Been saying I haven't been bored at a game all season, but I have now. Pretty much agree with all of that capn, particularly the defensive aspect. In terms of entertainment......close to nil and to lose at home to that brum team is particularly galling - they were poor and there for the taking but we set out negative, and stayed there. Shocking tactics and selections today - but even so, butterfield, coady and hogg gave as poor a central midfield trio performance as i can ever remember, and will somebody tell bloody smithies not to stand yds off his line for those free kicks........he does it regularly and is too often beaten like he was today! Shockingly poor pre xmas fayre and i cant see 15k turning up for the bolton game including min 2.5k from them! I think the size of the crowd for the next game should be the least of everyone's worries Jon. The thought of Oldham, MK Dons etc next season is enough to keep me at home. And I've been going for 40 odd years.
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Post by shawsie on Dec 20, 2014 21:22:34 GMT 1
Pretty much agree with all of that capn, particularly the defensive aspect. In terms of entertainment......close to nil and to lose at home to that brum team is particularly galling - they were poor and there for the taking but we set out negative, and stayed there. Shocking tactics and selections today - but even so, butterfield, coady and hogg gave as poor a central midfield trio performance as i can ever remember, and will somebody tell bloody smithies not to stand yds off his line for those free kicks........he does it regularly and is too often beaten like he was today! Shockingly poor pre xmas fayre and i cant see 15k turning up for the bolton game including min 2.5k from them! I think the size of the crowd for the next game should be the least of everyone's worries Jon. The thought of Oldham, MK Dons etc next season is enough to keep me at home. And I've been going for 40 odd years. Agreed marcus.......that was utterly appalling today given the paucity of the opposition. "Fortune favours the brave" according to powells post match comments........how ironic! No hiding place for anyone today......gutless, slow, ponderous, boringly predictable rubbish. Our wage bill exceeds 10m pa.....daylight chuffing robbery!
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Post by impact on Dec 20, 2014 21:29:41 GMT 1
Don't slag captain flapper smithies on here lol. Shit for that straight thru him I've never got involved in the Smithies debate before but it's happening too many times for it to be a blip now. Without a doubt it was a poor mistake but how is it a blip or happening too many times? He's been excellent for weeks, in particular the win against Brentford would have been a loss if it wasn't for him.
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Post by benhomly on Dec 20, 2014 21:37:32 GMT 1
I've never got involved in the Smithies debate before but it's happening too many times for it to be a blip now. Without a doubt it was a poor mistake but how is it a blip or happening too many times? He's been excellent for weeks, in particular the win against Brentford would have been a loss if it wasn't for him. Exact thing happened at Fulham and that's only a few weeks ago.
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Post by 007Berlin on Dec 20, 2014 21:39:14 GMT 1
why on earth didn't Robinson just let it go out rather than head it straight back to the opposition. Can you imagine the shit he'd have got if he had just ducked and let it go out. Like smithies did?
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Post by Siehe grün on Dec 20, 2014 21:39:14 GMT 1
Okay, head above parapet time. Been today for the fourth time this season - Bournemouth, Powell's first game, Fulham and today. Totally disillusioned with ineffective tactics, lack of effort, fuck all atmosphere (at home) and setting our stall out for a point at home.
Maybe only Robinson comes out with any credit from today's game, how we're going to improve sufficiently with moves in and out I don't know in January? I can't justify how today might even be close to being value for money at £27 to get in - appalling. Dean Hoyle must be pulling his hair out in frustration at his seeming inability to appoint the right manager and move us on as a club.
Absolute wank, can't see when I'll be back. I prefer the company in the pubs in town without the expense and the shit produced by the overpaid bunch of ineffectual wankers that I've seen today - especially on the back of a 5-0 defeat when most of us would be expecting a come back.
I'll be watching the bolton game via mobile updates in box or zephyr in town. C***ts.
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Post by terracesider on Dec 20, 2014 21:40:07 GMT 1
Why though were they "gutless, slow -- etc.etc." when a couple of weeks ago we were treated to a really good game of football (both sides) in the narrow win over Brentford?
When I heard the team on Radio Leeds (one up front...!!!) I was treated to that sinking feeling well known to Town fans. Oggie also said that he saw Nahki at the ground and he (Nahki) looked sick --- I know how he bloody well felt....
On the general principle is the "actions speak louder than words" ---- my own view on hearing that formation was that we were looking for a morale boosting (after last week) nil-nil draw. I assume that our players came to the same conclusion.....as the action of picking such a boring, defensive formation overrode anything that the coaching staff said to the players.
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Post by impact on Dec 20, 2014 21:53:11 GMT 1
Without a doubt it was a poor mistake but how is it a blip or happening too many times? He's been excellent for weeks, in particular the win against Brentford would have been a loss if it wasn't for him. Exact thing happened at Fulham and that's only a few weeks ago. How can you blame him for a top corner screamer (assuming that is the one you meant)?
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Post by Grandfather Berty of Cleck on Dec 20, 2014 21:53:20 GMT 1
Can you imagine the shit he'd have got if he had just ducked and let it go out. Like smithies did? I have stuck up for Alex before now, but that looked a poor attempt today.
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Post by richhtfc on Dec 20, 2014 22:19:48 GMT 1
The goal was terrible. Shit by coady, shit by Robinson and shit by smithies. Shame really because other than that i thought the defence looked more solid than its done for a long time. can't even remember them having a shot of any note. Thought gerrard played a big part in that and did well to say it was his first game for 7 months. Bit rusty in terms if his timing cos he misjudged a few headers and peltier looked good defensively in his true position even though he offers little to nothing going forward, but overall the back 4 did very well. Midfield and attack though was a shambles other than bunn. Holt was dreadful, butterfield had his poorest game ive seen from him, Coady and hogg were poor, Scannell anonymous . 1 up front against Birmingham?? dear me. Thats so negative. powell had a shocker at norwich and a shocker today. To make matters worse the subs were fine but WAY too late in the day.Should have changed it 15 minutes before he did. Been saying I haven't been bored at a game all season, but I have now. Pretty much agree with all of that capn, particularly the defensive aspect. In terms of entertainment......close to nil and to lose at home to that brum team is particularly galling - they were poor and there for the taking but we set out negative, and stayed there. Shocking tactics and selections today - but even so, butterfield, coady and hogg gave as poor a central midfield trio performance as i can ever remember, and will somebody tell bloody smithies not to stand yds off his line for those free kicks........he does it regularly and is too often beaten like he was today! Shockingly poor pre xmas fayre and i cant see 15k turning up for the bolton game including min 2.5k from them! Don't agree with this, the midfield performance was fine, the problem was they had no outlet because we'd set up so bloody negatively there was no one in forward positions to pass to.
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Post by shawsie on Dec 20, 2014 22:27:34 GMT 1
Pretty much agree with all of that capn, particularly the defensive aspect. In terms of entertainment......close to nil and to lose at home to that brum team is particularly galling - they were poor and there for the taking but we set out negative, and stayed there. Shocking tactics and selections today - but even so, butterfield, coady and hogg gave as poor a central midfield trio performance as i can ever remember, and will somebody tell bloody smithies not to stand yds off his line for those free kicks........he does it regularly and is too often beaten like he was today! Shockingly poor pre xmas fayre and i cant see 15k turning up for the bolton game including min 2.5k from them! Don't agree with this, the midfield performance was fine, the problem was they had no outlet because we'd set up so bloody negatively there was no one in forward positions to pass to. Are you being serious?! Butterfield was so poor it was laughable. Coady and Hogg holding hands with the back four - not one of them passed the ball with conviction, drove forward beyond the front man or ran forward with a purpose! I wouldn't have given any of the 3 more than 4/10 and whilst you can bemoan the tactics (I have!), once they cross the whitewash the quality players make it happen more often than ours do! A good game every 3 or 4 gets you where we are.....flirting with going down, and the midfield lads need telling so. After all, clays and Norwood were a similar theme in prior campaigns - on their days super, but too often lightweight, slow, ponderous and off the pace. Sound familiar?
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Post by richhtfc on Dec 20, 2014 22:32:36 GMT 1
Completely serious, they all had plenty of time on the ball but if they have no attacking outlet what exactly are they supposed to do with it? There was no overlapping by the full backs (presumably because of team orders) and no movement from their team mates generally. I accept that they could as s midfield unit have pushed on more but it seemed to me that tactics are to blame today. It didn't feel like the midfield. we're overrun at all, that's what's so dissapointing. Brum were there for the taking.
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Dec 20, 2014 22:46:50 GMT 1
Exact thing happened at Fulham and that's only a few weeks ago. How can you blame him for a top corner screamer (assuming that is the one you meant)? I'm assuming he meant the 3rd goal from McCormack which on route to the top corner went through Smithies' hands.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Dec 20, 2014 22:48:35 GMT 1
Hope Murphy is back very soon, we have to get him in the goal.
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