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Post by Scissett Terrier! on Jan 4, 2015 14:03:19 GMT 1
Powells got what hes got squad wise which is a weakish championship squad to want him sacked is daft.
What Robins replacement should of had is the whole summer to shape their squad and the board have to take some massive criticism of not getting rid of Robins towards the end of last season. It was clear he wasn't going to last and then undermined him in summer by getting rid of his men only made it worse for him.
The board also need to look at the strategy because whilst its ok signing young hungry players and having an awesome youth team who might come good we lack a serious amount of “know how” in the 1st team. Signings like stead and pelts just pissing money away, combine their wages and get a good player in. Loads of basic mistakes there from top to bottom.
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Post by hypotenuse on Jan 4, 2015 14:23:44 GMT 1
Scissett - agree with all you say here. I gave actually enjoyed some games this year which has not been the case for some time. Numbskulls who come onto the site slagging off Powell may be simply expressing an (emotional and often irrational) opinion but they do the club no favours. I suspect this site is scrutinised widely by players and management.
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Post by AndySk on Jan 4, 2015 14:28:32 GMT 1
Worst thing is if its a shite first 10 mins then you just know nowts gonna change since it would appear Powell doesnt know how to use subs effectively, or is just unwilling to use them. Set out to nick every game 1 - 0 (despite not having the players to keep a clean sheet), go one down and then....do nothing. Some seriously poor management by the guy
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Post by WirralTerrier on Jan 4, 2015 14:31:28 GMT 1
Powells got what hes got squad wise which is a weakish championship squad to want him sacked is daft. What Robins replacement should of had is the whole summer to shape their squad and the board have to take some massive criticism of not getting rid of Robins towards the end of last season. It was clear he wasn't going to last and then undermined him in summer by getting rid of his men only made it worse for him. The board also need to look at the strategy because whilst its ok signing young hungry players and having an awesome youth team who might come good we lack a serious amount of “know how” in the 1st team. Signings like stead and pelts just pissing money away, combine their wages and get a good player in. Loads of basic mistakes there from top to bottom. You say we need players with know how yet your complaining about signing stead and Peltier. Surely they have the experience at this level to bring that 'know how'. Not that I'm saying they were good signings, just that the reason your stating is probably the very reason they were signed.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jan 4, 2015 14:32:51 GMT 1
there is nothing 'irrational' about no shots on target in 94 minutes of a home game against a team from the same division(forget the fa cup bit)..
there is nothing irrational about watching 11 players have no cohesion, no forward gameplan other than hit and hope and compounded again by the concession of a very simple and dreadfully defended goal.
watching your team fall into the trap set by the opposition of arguing, moaning, petty challenges and stupid behaviour and seeing that your management team cant/wont do anything to knock it on the head is very disappointing, its not irrational. Second year in a row we have lost at home in exactly the same way..different players, manager with the same mindset and approach???
If he isn't careful or if he isn't strong enough, Dean will find that the 'rational' response from the support will be to stop going. I will support the team if they try and be positive in games, win lose or draw, I cant support a lack of effort combined with a very dull approach that sees us lose very dull, 'professional' games.. that would start becoming very 'irrational' indeed..
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Post by 007Berlin on Jan 4, 2015 14:33:40 GMT 1
Scissett - agree with all you say here. I gave actually enjoyed some games this year which has not been the case for some time. Numbskulls who come onto the site slagging off Powell may be simply expressing an (emotional and often irrational) opinion but they do the club no favours. I suspect this site is scrutinised widely by players and management. I hope they do read it they can see how pissed off with them we are!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2015 14:35:50 GMT 1
A lot harder to get rid of a black manager too. Jason Roberts will demand we're thrown out of the football league and Paul Ince will worm his way on to Sky Sports to get his face back in the public eye
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Post by 3Pipe on Jan 4, 2015 14:38:34 GMT 1
I hope they do read it they can see how pissed off with them we are! Exactly. Powell might get a few tips on how to exert a positive influence on a game while he's at it. I'm still in genuine disbelief as to what he thought Lolley could do in 4 minutes.
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Post by 3Pipe on Jan 4, 2015 14:39:19 GMT 1
A lot harder to get rid of a black manager too. Jason Roberts will demand we're thrown out of the football league and Paul Ince will worm his way on to Sky Sports to get his face back in the public eye I think that's absolute bollocks, to be fair.
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Post by WirralTerrier on Jan 4, 2015 14:39:38 GMT 1
A lot harder to get rid of a black manager too. Jason Roberts will demand we're thrown out of the football league and Paul Ince will worm his way on to Sky Sports to get his face back in the public eye THAT'S RACIST:
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2015 14:47:08 GMT 1
A lot harder to get rid of a black manager too. Jason Roberts will demand we're thrown out of the football league and Paul Ince will worm his way on to Sky Sports to get his face back in the public eye I think that's absolute bollocks, to be fair. Said in jest but it won't be too far wrong
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Post by Scissett Terrier! on Jan 4, 2015 14:57:54 GMT 1
Powells got what hes got squad wise which is a weakish championship squad to want him sacked is daft. What Robins replacement should of had is the whole summer to shape their squad and the board have to take some massive criticism of not getting rid of Robins towards the end of last season. It was clear he wasn't going to last and then undermined him in summer by getting rid of his men only made it worse for him. The board also need to look at the strategy because whilst its ok signing young hungry players and having an awesome youth team who might come good we lack a serious amount of “know how” in the 1st team. Signings like stead and pelts just pissing money away, combine their wages and get a good player in. Loads of basic mistakes there from top to bottom. You say we need players with know how yet your complaining about signing stead and Peltier. Surely they have the experience at this level to bring that 'know how'. Not that I'm saying they were good signings, just that the reason your stating is probably the very reason they were signed. steads a league 1 player which has been proven by his loan. miles of pace in championshop Pelts is not the player we had before and to me would be alot better suited to league 1 aswell. They may have experience and a bit of Know How but they also have to live with the level too. Both there wages could have been combined to get that one player that would be of more benefit to us. As few people are saying we need a small quality squad that must contain exepierence and it needs to be backed up by youth where required.
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Post by AndySk on Jan 4, 2015 14:58:22 GMT 1
“Our approach play into them wasn’t to our usual standard, which people might say was due to Jacob (Butterfield) and Sean Scannell’s absence on the pitch. However, I had a good enough 11 out there to get something, that’s for sure.”
This from Powell sums him up. It was clear after 10 mins that he really didnt have a good enough XI out there to get something (he even see's we were missing Butterfield). As with the Brum game he's clearly happy with the way we played. Somehow.
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Post by yorkie1 on Jan 4, 2015 16:26:38 GMT 1
I personally don't think Powell has taken over a weak squad. Other managers have come in and improved sides with less time and under similar circumstances or worse in regard to transfer windows and loan markets. We have not improved under this guy. When we play well there are people who praise him and when things go tits up its down to players stealing money and not performing! You can't have it both ways. May be its the other way round. At the end of the day he is the manager and he is responsible. He does not seem to be able to motivate let alone make a sub.
Still I know there are a lot of people out there impressed with his record in the Championship with Charlton so if he replicates that brilliant eh?
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Post by sabailand on Jan 4, 2015 16:33:41 GMT 1
Two wins,two defeats, and the mindset totally changes(admittedly we dont get two wins in a row very much but thats another point).Knee jerk reactionists,forums are full of em.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jan 4, 2015 16:45:21 GMT 1
those knees have been 'jerking' for about 3 years at least now.
its how you lose that hows what sort of mindset is running through the team/club..we lose very badly.
2 wins and 2 losses where we actually played decently and the effort/commitment and ideas were there would be most acceptable.
knee jerk isn't a suitable description of the support at this time.
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Post by captainblack on Jan 4, 2015 19:59:25 GMT 1
Worst thing is if its a shite first 10 mins then you just know nowts gonna change since it would appear Powell doesnt know how to use subs effectively, or is just unwilling to use them. Set out to nick every game 1 - 0 (despite not having the players to keep a clean sheet), go one down and then....do nothing. Some seriously poor management by the guy We have been guilty of losing confidence after going a goal down although the Bolton game shows we are not a push over in this division . I think there is far too much Powell bashing generally which I honestly believe is unhelpful. I think we must be a little more patient and hope that Powell can achieve a little more consistency , on a good day Andy, Town look quite a talented side . I must admit I only attend one or two away matches a season so cannot comment on Towns away form but I have enjoyed the majority of Towns home games.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2015 20:13:56 GMT 1
Worst thing is if its a shite first 10 mins then you just know nowts gonna change since it would appear Powell doesnt know how to use subs effectively, or is just unwilling to use them. Set out to nick every game 1 - 0 (despite not having the players to keep a clean sheet), go one down and then....do nothing. Some seriously poor management by the guy Strange that, let's see now, what happened against Bolton?
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Post by trailingleg on Jan 5, 2015 3:19:02 GMT 1
Personally I think we've had a pretty good Christmas compared to recent seasons. Except for the last 5 minutes at Rotherham we played well, and I'd have taken a draw against Bolton at home before the match. OK yesterday was crap, but as others have said, Reading were just a spoiling, cynical outfit and the referee was utterly inadequate for the task. He alone was responsible for allowing the time-wasting, (walking off with the ball at our free kicks, kicking the ball away, arguing etc.) to continue, which eventually led to Hogg's frustration and sending off. This is all Mourinho stuff, absorbed and applied by Clarke to great effect. Not making excuses for Town's display, but it certainly didn't help that the referee bought it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2015 9:48:02 GMT 1
Premature speculation.
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Post by terrierfortythree on Jan 5, 2015 9:51:40 GMT 1
A lot harder to get rid of a black manager too. Jason Roberts will demand we're thrown out of the football league and Paul Ince will worm his way on to Sky Sports to get his face back in the public eye you've forgot about john barnes' plea that he has never had the opportunities because of his skin colour
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Post by terraceterrier on Jan 5, 2015 13:04:37 GMT 1
That FA cup game was a terrible match from both sides, neither team deserved to progress, but was it the managers fault or the players motivation to progress to the 4th round?. Lynch back alongside Hudson we will be fine, its the lack of strength in depth that's worrying in the defence especially,imo. Was surprised CP didn't try Butters alongside Hogg for 2nd half but maybe he was carrying a knock? Wells had a stinker but he isn't a back to goal player, give him the right service to get behind defences and we will get the best out of him like against Bolton. Thought JV put a shift in (defo pen near the end when he was brought down in the box)but the service from them long balls was simply not good enough. Personally think it will be a cracking game against Watford, we will go with 4231 Butterfield back and Wells on bench
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Post by terraceterrier on Jan 5, 2015 13:14:14 GMT 1
Too early to say get rid however he is pretty wank so far. Use of subs once again dire today. He's clearly happy with the dross served up. Hasn't got an attacking bone in his body. How Butterfield wasn't given at least 30 mins is just baffling. His plans for Lolley seem to be 5 mins every so often. No doubt Wells dropped for next game despite him and Hogg been only 2 to put a shift in. Wells was atrocious ! his first touch non- league standard and has to be better and his movement was poor , but in his defence holding the ball up isn't his game and not one of the starting midfielders were looking to play the passes for Wells to get behind or turn the defence. Can you say JV wasn't trying, may have done better with the headed chance but the long high hoofballs to him was shocking
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Post by teddytheterrier on Jan 28, 2015 13:14:44 GMT 1
We should have statue of Simon Grayson at the stadium that got us promoted to the second tier of English football. Could have lee Clark next to him
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Post by kosi on Jan 28, 2015 19:08:33 GMT 1
Has Powell gone yet?
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Post by keithAM11532 on Jan 28, 2015 20:25:19 GMT 1
no
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