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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2015 3:50:29 GMT 1
Cannot believe some of the comments about Oscar today. He was arguably MOTM, for me he was, followed closely by Robinson. Clearly he is the unfortunate victim of fans not forgetting previous. He won so many balls today and vaughans goal was started by Oscar. Hogg will return next week but I'm delighted by Oscars performance today. Agree, although I think it's unfair for him to be dropped after that performance. It is not easy starting a game out of the blue and slotting in as he did. He improved as time went on. I would consider giving coady a rest as they play a similar role & coady has been ever present. Gobern was more than useful in the air today with several good challenges and one crucial one that CP mentioned in his post match interview. He also put his foot in well notably in the great tackle that started the move with him feeding wells for Vaughan's goal. Gobern really made that goal. Disposssing a team in their own half often leads to good chances. His passing can improve and he has most definitely been a slow burner of a player but he deserves a run of games before his time is up with us imo, just to see if he can improve/maintain the required level. Enjoyed watching him today. A spirited performance.
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Post by thenuggett on Jan 11, 2015 9:11:05 GMT 1
Oscar played very well .he tired at one stage then seemed to get a second wind which culminated in him assisting for the second goal How some posters can even post about who was our worst performer after a team effort like that is beyond me !
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Jan 11, 2015 9:57:07 GMT 1
Even in my two minds I don't get any posters who say he was average yesterday, he had a very good game, good link up play and got stuck in. Hogg is better but is a totally different animal.
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Post by patfield on Jan 11, 2015 10:10:19 GMT 1
Gobern played well imo today, especially like the studs in ankle job on Vydra early on. Think it was him anyway.
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Post by kennyk2 on Jan 11, 2015 10:11:19 GMT 1
Even in my two minds I don't get any posters who say he was average yesterday, he had a very good game, good link up play and got stuck in. Hogg is better but is a totally different animal.Very good.
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Post by patfield on Jan 11, 2015 10:14:00 GMT 1
Even in my two minds I don't get any posters who say he was average yesterday, he had a very good game, good link up play and got stuck in. Hogg is better but is a totally different animal.Very good. just a wild rumour
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2015 10:14:20 GMT 1
Wasn't everybody wanting him moved on last week?
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Post by patfield on Jan 11, 2015 10:25:51 GMT 1
The question is , Gobern to start next week or Hogg?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2015 10:30:01 GMT 1
The question is , Gobern to start next week or Hogg? It'll be Hogg, and rightly so. Maybe Gobern could feature as well though, be a tough game up at Boro and having 2 players in the middle of the field disrupting play could be advantageous.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Jan 11, 2015 10:30:27 GMT 1
Despite his decent performance yesterday we need better than what he has. I can't see him starting over Hogg when his suspension is up.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jan 11, 2015 10:40:00 GMT 1
Powell has turned the fortunes around of Scannell & Hogg, why can't he do the same with Gobern? To say it was his first start of the season it was a solid showing.. Hogg would be my first pick though because he has been outstanding this season. Gobern has proved he can do a job if required, which could save us afew bob in this window, or spend it elsewhere.
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Post by teddytheterrier on Jan 11, 2015 10:49:32 GMT 1
He was the motm for me yesterday, I would still like to see him moved on though!
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Post by Michael Moon on Jan 11, 2015 10:59:24 GMT 1
Had decent game yesterday,still had his usual faults tho,did something good and then in the next breathe,gives it away,trips over the ball or fails to control his legs never mind the ball,so let's not forget he has had plenty of chances in the past and not taken them,he has to move on just like others in the squad to allow Powell to construct his own group of players!
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Post by Big Ern on Jan 11, 2015 11:16:41 GMT 1
I can't help thinking That he played Gobern to put him in the shop window and maybe even did it as a hint that our squad is looking weaker now.
Either way I thought he played well for a player who hasn't had a look in and has certainly given Powell food for thought
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Post by trevorhtfc on Jan 11, 2015 12:05:53 GMT 1
Played terrific but I think more importantly him playing meant coady pushed further forwards where he can utilise his ability (rotherham gobern supplied coady to score) I think this is why we managed to play further forwards as we were holding onto the ball further forwards pressing them further forwards.
Gobern should start at boro imo, what does it say for squad morale if a player comes in for the first start in best part of a year, plays excellent then is immediately dropped for a player who stupidly got sent off, can only help hogg realise how idiotic he was
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Post by COWSHEDPHIL on Jan 11, 2015 12:21:03 GMT 1
He looked sharper than usual. I think he played well and made a key pass in the 2nd goal.
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Post by upthetown on Jan 11, 2015 12:30:03 GMT 1
He'd be crazy to change the side that beat a stong Watford 3-1. Hogg on bench for me.
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Post by bluedogs, Esq. on Jan 11, 2015 12:34:42 GMT 1
IMO Hogg would be the first name on the team sheet if I was picking the team
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Post by teddytheterrier on Jan 11, 2015 13:10:47 GMT 1
So annoying that people on here judge someone on one game! Hogg has been our best player this season! First name on the team sheet for me!
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Post by Yesss on Jan 11, 2015 13:21:48 GMT 1
He proved a lot of people wrong yesterday including myself. He had a really good game! Let It continue
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jan 11, 2015 13:39:43 GMT 1
IMO Hogg would be the first name on the team sheet if I was picking the team Agreed.
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Post by k1htafc on Jan 11, 2015 14:02:18 GMT 1
One hefty complaint I remember hearing in regards to Scannell last season was that the manager never gave him a run of games - and regardless of how well he played it seemed like he was always going to be dropped for the next one. We've seen how much a run of games has done for Scanz, why can't the same be said for Gobern? A couple of games under his belt, a bit more confidence and maybe he'll be able to put in the kind of consistency he's lacked in his Town career.
It does make for a decent problem for Powell for the Boro game as to what the midfield should be - and I'm sure we'd all rather him have this problem than we had a fair few seasons ago, whereupon we were trying to figure out what midfield would be best out of the players we had on offer who played like shite week after week (Miller, Robinson, Kay etc.). Whilst our time in the Championship has been a struggle more often than not, I'm sure we can all say our midfield has vastly improved since promotion.
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Post by artysid on Jan 11, 2015 14:16:23 GMT 1
Even in my two minds I don't get any posters who say he was average yesterday, he had a very good game, good link up play and got stuck in. Hogg is better but is a totally different animal.Very good. You spotted it first you swine
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Post by griffa on Jan 11, 2015 14:22:13 GMT 1
IMO Hogg would be the first name on the team sheet if I was picking the team Agreed. Oscar was impressive, coming off the bench at Rotherham & had a good game yesterday. But I would select Hogg & have Oscar on the bench. Oscar's performances have been up & down, some of that was due to back luck with injuries. Must be a good thing if Oscar's pushing for selection, keeping Hoggy on is toes - UTT.
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Post by detox on Jan 11, 2015 15:23:40 GMT 1
I'll say the same about Gobern as I said about Scannell some weeks ago...they were both part of the fight against relegation culminating in the barnsley game, 2 years ago. Gobern was picked to play in all bar one of the last 14 games.. W6 D3 L4.. the following season both he and Scannell were cast into the shadows...he was good enough then, as was Scannell and it's only the lack of confidence shown by Robins that had demoralised them both ... There's no reason that with a bit of support Gobern can't emulate Scannells' return to form because I think Gobern could prove to be a good player for us..he's still only 23 you know (24 soon)...
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Post by Captainslapper on Jan 11, 2015 15:59:09 GMT 1
He proved a lot of people wrong yesterday including myself. He had a really good game! Let It continue Not really. Hes had decent games before ( and it was only a decent game, nothing MOTM about it- some of his play was good, some of his play was terrible). he'll have proved people wrong if and when he puts a run of good performances together- maybe over a dozen. Up to now hes not come anywhere near doing that and soon after his good game, he'll play lousily, lose his place and disappear for another 6 months.
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Post by sabailand on Jan 11, 2015 19:27:20 GMT 1
Some on here would have a go at players if town won the champions league,cretins.
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Post by richhtfc on Jan 11, 2015 20:00:36 GMT 1
He proved a lot of people wrong yesterday including myself. He had a really good game! Let It continue Not really. Hes had decent games before ( and it was only a decent game, nothing MOTM about it- some of his play was good, some of his play was terrible). he'll have proved people wrong if and when he puts a run of good performances together- maybe over a dozen. Up to now hes not come anywhere near doing that and soon after his good game, he'll play lousily, lose his place and disappear for another 6 months. This is just wrong if you ask me, Gobern seems to definitely be a scapegoat amongst the fans. All the other players have poor spells during games. Wells, Butterfield, Coady, all of them are guilty of poor touches and misplaced passes that's why they're in the championship. Gobern can play great and like the others, can also makes mistakes, unfortunately for him for whatever reason he's been singled out for extra scrutiny and criticism the same way Hogg, Scannel, Arfield and countless others have been in recent years.
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Post by Yesss on Jan 11, 2015 22:49:51 GMT 1
He proved a lot of people wrong yesterday including myself. He had a really good game! Let It continue Not really. Hes had decent games before ( and it was only a decent game, nothing MOTM about it- some of his play was good, some of his play was terrible). he'll have proved people wrong if and when he puts a run of good performances together- maybe over a dozen. Up to now hes not come anywhere near doing that and soon after his good game, he'll play lousily, lose his place and disappear for another 6 months. that's your opinion, he played well yesterday. The only time he started slacking was towards the end of the game but could put that down to fitness but fitness will only come if he gets a run of games.
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Post by Captainslapper on Jan 11, 2015 23:15:27 GMT 1
I wouldn't accuse him of slacking at all. Tired a little towards the end but thats only to be expected and one of his big problems up to now has been his stamina, often letting him down after an hour. Just don't think he was as good as some people are saying. he was 'decent'. And I don't see whats unfair in saying that him being consistantly decent has also been an issue in his time here. He has had good games before, but his form has quickly died a death. Guess hes got half a season to earn another chance here. Its up to him to finally grab the chances he gets and cement a place for himself in our squad. yesterday was a decent start for him.
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