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Post by Grandfather Berty of Cleck on Jan 19, 2015 11:03:34 GMT 1
Eh it was a knock to the head, how the fuck will he be out for 4 months exactly? Fractured cheek bone and eye socket 'bang on the head'
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2015 11:14:20 GMT 1
Puts to bed his big move to Burnley this month then... I hope we werent relying on the pay day to bring replacements in.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2015 11:14:31 GMT 1
Its difficult to see properly but I think its worthy of not more than a foul. He's a tiny bit negligent, but theres no intent... its just an unlucky incident trying to flick on or kick at a ball on the turn. That his hands go straight up in apology and players from neither tram react angrily tell you it was "just one of those things".
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Post by 3Pipe on Jan 19, 2015 11:15:16 GMT 1
Eh it was a knock to the head, how the fuck will he be out for 4 months exactly? Nobody has said he will be out for 4 months. Personally, I'd doubt it was that long. As said on previous page, need to wait for swelling to go down and take it from there. It is NOT unusual for this type of injury to lead to surgery. As I said, a quick look on Google at previous sportsmen who have had this injury yielded results of anything from a few days out to 4 months out. We should know more towards the end of the week. Don't panic.
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Post by 3Pipe on Jan 19, 2015 11:17:16 GMT 1
Its difficult to see properly but I think its worthy of not more than a foul. He's a tiny bit negligent, but theres no intent... its just an unlucky incident trying to flick on or kick at a ball on the turn. That his hands go straight up in apology and players from neither tram react angrily tell you it was "just one of those things". Yep, that's how I see it. Pure bad luck.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2015 11:19:58 GMT 1
Eh it was a knock to the head, how the fuck will he be out for 4 months exactly? Nobody has said he will be out for 4 months. Personally, I'd doubt it was that long. As said on previous page, need to wait for swelling to go down and take it from there. It is NOT unusual for this type of injury to lead to surgery. As I said, a quick look on Google at previous sportsmen who have had this injury yielded results of anything from a few days out to 4 months out. We should know more towards the end of the week. Don't panic. If he waits 4 months he will pull something else and be out 8....truth about James Vaughan is that an injury like this, he is going to have just play through it. Its uncomfortable and if you get another bang on it, it will hurt like hell. But at the end of the day, his legs and feet still work, he could still head a ball, so he should get on and play.
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Post by nicovaesen on Jan 19, 2015 11:20:29 GMT 1
We seem to get a lot of this bad luck!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2015 11:22:09 GMT 1
Nobody has said he will be out for 4 months. Personally, I'd doubt it was that long. As said on previous page, need to wait for swelling to go down and take it from there. It is NOT unusual for this type of injury to lead to surgery. As I said, a quick look on Google at previous sportsmen who have had this injury yielded results of anything from a few days out to 4 months out. We should know more towards the end of the week. Don't panic. If he waits 4 months he will pull something else and be out 8....truth about James Vaughan is that an injury like this, he is going to have just play through it. Its uncomfortable and if you get another bang on it, it will hurt like hell. But at the end of the day, his legs and feet still work, he could still head a ball, so he should get on and play. So how long do you reckon it should be before he plays doc?
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Post by 3Pipe on Jan 19, 2015 11:23:38 GMT 1
Not sure about heading a ball in anger just yet. Probably something akin to sticking a red hot poker in his eye socket.
You have to wait and assess it. You don't know the extent of the concussion either. Doubt it is safe for him to play just yet.
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Post by teddytheterrier on Jan 19, 2015 11:25:23 GMT 1
Eh it was a knock to the head, how the fuck will he be out for 4 months exactly? Nobody has said he will be out for 4 months. Personally, I'd doubt it was that long. As said on previous page, need to wait for swelling to go down and take it from there. It is NOT unusual for this type of injury to lead to surgery. As I said, a quick look on Google at previous sportsmen who have had this injury yielded results of anything from a few days out to 4 months out. We should know more towards the end of the week. Don't panic. Should be ok with a facial mask if it's a broken cheek bone though?
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Post by 3Pipe on Jan 19, 2015 11:30:48 GMT 1
Should be ok with a facial mask if it's a broken cheek bone though? We'll just have to wait and see. They have to wait for the swelling to go down before assessing it properly. Obviously we all hope it's just a case of popping on the old Phantom of the Opera mask but we'll know more later in the week. It looked a bad un concussionwise at least, I bet he couldn't have told you his name as he was leaving the pitch.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2015 11:30:53 GMT 1
Nobody has said he will be out for 4 months. Personally, I'd doubt it was that long. As said on previous page, need to wait for swelling to go down and take it from there. It is NOT unusual for this type of injury to lead to surgery. As I said, a quick look on Google at previous sportsmen who have had this injury yielded results of anything from a few days out to 4 months out. We should know more towards the end of the week. Don't panic. Should be ok with a facial mask if it's a broken cheek bone though? Not forgetting the broken eye socket. Remember the late great Tony Leighton playing with a leather scrum cap. Not sure how long between injury and taking the field again though.
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Post by teddytheterrier on Jan 19, 2015 11:33:01 GMT 1
If Torres can play with a fractured cheek bone then so can Vaughan, he ll be fine with a mask!
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Post by 3Pipe on Jan 19, 2015 11:43:12 GMT 1
Yes, because all injuries are always the same every time.
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Post by 52bob on Jan 19, 2015 12:01:20 GMT 1
Nobody has said he will be out for 4 months. Personally, I'd doubt it was that long. As said on previous page, need to wait for swelling to go down and take it from there. It is NOT unusual for this type of injury to lead to surgery. As I said, a quick look on Google at previous sportsmen who have had this injury yielded results of anything from a few days out to 4 months out. We should know more towards the end of the week. Don't panic. If he waits 4 months he will pull something else and be out 8....truth about James Vaughan is that an injury like this, he is going to have just play through it. Its uncomfortable and if you get another bang on it, it will hurt like hell. But at the end of the day, his legs and feet still work, he could still head a ball, so he should get on and play. Some of your comments in this thread make your transfer speculation seem well informed
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Post by buckers on Jan 19, 2015 12:18:46 GMT 1
I think the focus needs to turn away from Vaughan now and let him get on with his rehab. The focus needs to be on a striker to partner Wells. Before we needed one, now it's imperative we have one.
Doesn't matter if it's a loan or a permanent deal. The men behind the scences need to get this sorted and sooner rather than later.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2015 12:19:42 GMT 1
talk about when your unlucky. he must hope he doesnt see any black cats on a morning.
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Jan 19, 2015 12:22:06 GMT 1
Two really good strikers needed now. Even having wells plus the two new strikers would be considered being down to the bare bones. Must get at least one in for tomorrow - Vaughan's replacement could be just a month's loan to cover his period out Why the rush for tomorrow, Saturday is our next match. FWIW I agree that if Vaughan is out for a couple of weeks then we should for a loan replacement only, similar to when we got Grant Holt. If CP isn't going to use our development squad players as backup strikers then we need experienced cover but it likely won't come cheap.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2015 12:26:29 GMT 1
If he waits 4 months he will pull something else and be out 8....truth about James Vaughan is that an injury like this, he is going to have just play through it. Its uncomfortable and if you get another bang on it, it will hurt like hell. But at the end of the day, his legs and feet still work, he could still head a ball, so he should get on and play. I think you have had a bang on the head if you think with the type of injury Vaughan has got he should carry on playing. Sam Burgess the rugby player had the same injury and it required surgery to fit a metal plate and was out for 2 months! Let's hope Vaughan has better luck, but to suggest he should carry on because it is only his head is stupid, just like your pathetic attemps to forecast town's transfer moves which again you know bugger all about!! Sam Burgess also finished the game he was playing and will have had a knock to the face almost every tackle he made and every time he was tackled...... Lets not compare rugby players to footballers, it a non-contest, I doubt a rugby player would be allowed to wear a face-mask or Im sure Sam would have been playing the next day if he had a game. So what are we saying a broken face should be allowed to fully heal before you play again? Whats the point in letting it heal "abit" and then playing anyway with a mask? fully healed a break like it sounds and possible surgery you could be looking at 4 months, that takes us to MAY 19th.... So he wouldnt play again this season? Is his contract up in the summer? He may not play for town again. Do we need him playing... Yes, before he went off we had 8 points from 4 games he has played (im including the score at 0-0 at Boro when he went off). With him we would be play off candidates without him (or grant holt when he was here) we would be somewhere in the bottom 3. We may sign someone who is as good, or we may get an abslolute Donkey, we have had plenty in the past.
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Jan 19, 2015 12:31:12 GMT 1
Vaughan signed a 3 year contract so it expires in the summer of 2016.
Vaughan will be guided by medical advice when it is safe for him to play again in the mask I am sure he will, if he needs surgery then the surgeon's advice will be paramount.
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Post by teddytheterrier on Jan 19, 2015 12:31:36 GMT 1
I think you have had a bang on the head if you think with the type of injury Vaughan has got he should carry on playing. Sam Burgess the rugby player had the same injury and it required surgery to fit a metal plate and was out for 2 months! Let's hope Vaughan has better luck, but to suggest he should carry on because it is only his head is stupid, just like your pathetic attemps to forecast town's transfer moves which again you know bugger all about!! Sam Burgess also finished the game he was playing and will have had a knock to the face almost every tackle he made and every time he was tackled...... Lets not compare rugby players to footballers, it a non-contest, I doubt a rugby player would be allowed to wear a face-mask or Im sure Sam would have been playing the next day if he had a game. So what are we saying a broken face should be allowed to fully heal before you play again? Whats the point in letting it heal "abit" and then playing anyway with a mask? fully healed a break like it sounds and possible surgery you could be looking at 4 months, that takes us to MAY 19th.... So he wouldnt play again this season? Is his contract up in the summer? He may not play for town again. Do we need him playing... Yes, before he went off we had 8 points from 4 games he has played (im including the score at 0-0 at Boro when he went off). With him we would be play off candidates without him (or grant holt when he was here) we would be somewhere in the bottom 3. We may sign someone who is as good, or we may get an abslolute Donkey, we have had plenty in the past. We may end up with a Dutch lad up front!
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Post by sdaehbonkuoy on Jan 19, 2015 12:33:03 GMT 1
Just seen some of your previous, you obviously have an agenda and your last post confirms it, i'm out. Smithies' kicking against Middlesbrough. Never let the truth spoil a good story. That's second half what about first half and there is still one missing that went straight out on the left aswell.
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Post by calken on Jan 19, 2015 12:33:34 GMT 1
If he wears a mask, we can call him the Phantom.
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Post by teddytheterrier on Jan 19, 2015 12:34:30 GMT 1
If he wears a mask, we can call him the Phantom. Wasn't the phantom a Yorkshire rapper?
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Post by sdaehbonkuoy on Jan 19, 2015 12:36:28 GMT 1
Don't do it, Won't do it, Not a chance. You know when you changed your name from RUNNING99 ? Why did you bother doing that knobhead? Or shucks you got me Ted, You silly old fuck wit, I was trying to get away from you stalking me the new name was in honor of you, You been the most massive Knobhead of all time.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2015 12:38:05 GMT 1
I think you have had a bang on the head if you think with the type of injury Vaughan has got he should carry on playing. Sam Burgess the rugby player had the same injury and it required surgery to fit a metal plate and was out for 2 months! Let's hope Vaughan has better luck, but to suggest he should carry on because it is only his head is stupid, just like your pathetic attemps to forecast town's transfer moves which again you know bugger all about!! Sam Burgess also finished the game he was playing and will have had a knock to the face almost every tackle he made and every time he was tackled...... Lets not compare rugby players to footballers, it a non-contest, I doubt a rugby player would be allowed to wear a face-mask or Im sure Sam would have been playing the next day if he had a game. So what are we saying a broken face should be allowed to fully heal before you play again? Whats the point in letting it heal "abit" and then playing anyway with a mask? fully healed a break like it sounds and possible surgery you could be looking at 4 months, that takes us to MAY 19th.... So he wouldnt play again this season? Is his contract up in the summer? He may not play for town again. Do we need him playing... Yes, before he went off we had 8 points from 4 games he has played (im including the score at 0-0 at Boro when he went off). With him we would be play off candidates without him (or grant holt when he was here) we would be somewhere in the bottom 3. We may sign someone who is as good, or we may get an abslolute Donkey, we have had plenty in the past. It may be possible if Vaughan played on the wing and didn't need to go for any aerial challenges, but the sort of player he is and role he plays in the team, I can't see how he could possibly play with a broken cheek bone and eye socket and to suggest other wise is ludicrous. As someone else said, you'd be better off carrying on pretending you're an "In the Know" transfer expert.
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Post by sdaehbonkuoy on Jan 19, 2015 12:39:23 GMT 1
More than once fella and it happens on a regular basis week in week out with him and causes us to be on the back foot which prob contributes to some of the goals we have conceded, He needs to sort it out. Spent the night watching all this and last seasons games. Alex kicks it out of play on an average of once every 5.5 games. That was mainly last season when he was aiming for Danny Ward who was out on the touchline. All night Really? You must be one of the old virgins on this board i was refering to earlier with no life, Get yourself out, Live a little you might even get laid old boy.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2015 12:41:20 GMT 1
Sam Burgess also finished the game he was playing and will have had a knock to the face almost every tackle he made and every time he was tackled...... Lets not compare rugby players to footballers, it a non-contest, I doubt a rugby player would be allowed to wear a face-mask or Im sure Sam would have been playing the next day if he had a game. So what are we saying a broken face should be allowed to fully heal before you play again? Whats the point in letting it heal "abit" and then playing anyway with a mask? fully healed a break like it sounds and possible surgery you could be looking at 4 months, that takes us to MAY 19th.... So he wouldnt play again this season? Is his contract up in the summer? He may not play for town again. Do we need him playing... Yes, before he went off we had 8 points from 4 games he has played (im including the score at 0-0 at Boro when he went off). With him we would be play off candidates without him (or grant holt when he was here) we would be somewhere in the bottom 3. We may sign someone who is as good, or we may get an abslolute Donkey, we have had plenty in the past. We may end up with a Dutch lad up front! Or a Dutch Donkey.
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Jan 19, 2015 12:41:28 GMT 1
Sam Burgess also finished the game he was playing and will have had a knock to the face almost every tackle he made and every time he was tackled...... Lets not compare rugby players to footballers, it a non-contest, I doubt a rugby player would be allowed to wear a face-mask or Im sure Sam would have been playing the next day if he had a game. So what are we saying a broken face should be allowed to fully heal before you play again? Whats the point in letting it heal "abit" and then playing anyway with a mask? fully healed a break like it sounds and possible surgery you could be looking at 4 months, that takes us to MAY 19th.... So he wouldnt play again this season? Is his contract up in the summer? He may not play for town again. Do we need him playing... Yes, before he went off we had 8 points from 4 games he has played (im including the score at 0-0 at Boro when he went off). With him we would be play off candidates without him (or grant holt when he was here) we would be somewhere in the bottom 3. We may sign someone who is as good, or we may get an abslolute Donkey, we have had plenty in the past. It may be possible if Vaughan played on the wing and didn't need to go for any aerial challenges, but the sort of player he is and role he plays in the team, I can't see how he could possibly play with a broken cheek bone and eye socket and to suggest other wise is ludicrous. As someone else said, you'd be better off carrying on pretending you're an "In the Know" transfer expert. Indeed wasn't that Swedish centreback for Celtic out for 8 weeks with a broken cheekbone and eye socket a couple of years ago. Oh and whoever mentioned Torres mask - that was for a broken nose only.
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Post by teddytheterrier on Jan 19, 2015 12:43:23 GMT 1
We may end up with a Dutch lad up front! Or a Dutch Donkey. That would be more likely!
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