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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Jan 26, 2015 19:30:24 GMT 1
I didn't rate the Stewart/Payton pairing at all. Stewart was nowt special for us until Jacko arrived, and Payton was shit. Completely agree with all other pairings that I'm old enough to remember. Before Stewart got injured against Brum on Oct 8th in his first season he was fantastic, he scored 9 goals in his first 13 appearances, Payton had added five more. We were flying in 7th in THIS division and into the 3rd round of the League cup where Boro with Juninho and Ravanelli waited. After his injury Stewart lost what pace he had and he had to adjust to the number 10 role in which he later excelled. We only had 2 wins in our next 19 league and cup games. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996%E2%80%9397_Huddersfield_Town_A.F.C._season
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Post by richhtfc on Jan 26, 2015 19:32:01 GMT 1
Bunn comes in off the wide and disappears.. lolley could play anywhere, possibly/maybe? scannell is a wide player.. trust the last 4 months or so to 2 recognised strikers??? lets hope not.. you know me id take 4-5-1 every week if we actually supported the one properly.. having options is what its about, proper options not make do and mend.. Video of Harry Bunn from less than 2 years ago, I take your point but if we're relatively safe I wouldn't be against him being given some time up front
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Jan 26, 2015 19:42:26 GMT 1
My thoughts: Booth and Jepson. Stewart and Payton. Stewart and Chief. Stewart and Offside Clyde. ...... JV and Wells. Town have always done ok with 2 strikers. We've never had 3 good ones to rotate to have the depth we now seemingly crave. Rather than 'quality' coming in I'd rather see young Charles given a run or Lolley as a no.10. Bunn could be our 3rd striker, it's a shame Carr didn't work out as planned. Don't you mean we have always done ok with two strikers when they have been good? We have had a lot of shit pairings as well - Paterson/Stead! Worthington and Lawson / Stewart and Chief / Booth and Jepson were my favourites. I'm trying to remember who Tony Leighton played alongside - they would have been one of may favourites too :-)
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Post by terrierpark on Jan 26, 2015 21:13:44 GMT 1
I didn't rate the Stewart/Payton pairing at all. Stewart was nowt special for us until Jacko arrived, and Payton was shit. Completely agree with all other pairings that I'm old enough to remember. Only due to Stewarts injury whentheir partnership was cut short, then Paytons goals kept us up. Then the partnership never got going because Jacko didnt like Payton, the quote was around because he's scored he thinks he's done his job and he's happy never mind the result. What was Payton about 5'6"? did jacko expect him defending corners? Another good player shown the door... But going back to the main point its a drum I've banged before but all these strikers that we had were signed not loanees and we didn't take ages sorting out the replacements either. Still its so much harder these days in the big boys playground isn't it?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2015 21:26:17 GMT 1
My original point was that, in my time watching Town (mid 80's onwards) I don't recall us ever having more than 2 obvious 1st team strikers.
Maybe, under Warnock, it could be said we had Booth, Jeppo, Starbuck and Dunne. More a transition as Booth developed though.
Iffy and Ewan? Cecere and Maskill? Parker and Jevons?
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Post by Porrohman on Jan 26, 2015 21:38:23 GMT 1
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Post by King Curtis on Jan 26, 2015 22:22:48 GMT 1
Stewart and CHIEF
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Post by jb1 on Jan 26, 2015 23:14:31 GMT 1
Booth and Stewart. If Carlsberg did partnerships.
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Post by Tinpot on Jan 27, 2015 0:03:22 GMT 1
I didn't rate the Stewart/Payton pairing at all. Stewart was nowt special for us until Jacko arrived, and Payton was shit. Completely agree with all other pairings that I'm old enough to remember. Only due to Stewarts injury whentheir partnership was cut short, then Paytons goals kept us up. Then the partnership never got going because Jacko didnt like Payton, the quote was around because he's scored he thinks he's done his job and he's happy never mind the result. What was Payton about 5'6"? did jacko expect him defending corners? Another good player shown the door... But going back to the main point its a drum I've banged before but all these strikers that we had were signed not loanees and we didn't take ages sorting out the replacements either. Still its so much harder these days in the big boys playground isn't it? His goals kept us up? Well, yes - but if your only positive contribution is goals, get more than 13 of them. If we'd played pretty much anybody else instead of him they'd have probably scored a few & done something for the team so that more chances were created. Also, how many attacks were broken down because he went miles offside, or punted it aimlessly into row Z despite there being 3 other players in better positions than him? More often than not, Payton broke down so many of our attacks that he was the opposition's best defender. Not just shite, the sort of shite that gave shite a bad name. Certainly is more difficult these days. Rubery's money wouldn't have been such a big deal today as it was could have been then.
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Post by Tinpot on Jan 27, 2015 0:06:09 GMT 1
I didn't rate the Stewart/Payton pairing at all. Stewart was nowt special for us until Jacko arrived, and Payton was shit. Completely agree with all other pairings that I'm old enough to remember. Before Stewart got injured against Brum on Oct 8th in his first season he was fantastic, he scored 9 goals in his first 13 appearances, Payton had added five more. We were flying in 7th in THIS division and into the 3rd round of the League cup where Boro with Juninho and Ravanelli waited. After his injury Stewart lost what pace he had and he had to adjust to the number 10 role in which he later excelled. We only had 2 wins in our next 19 league and cup games. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996%E2%80%9397_Huddersfield_Town_A.F.C._seasonAccording to that link Stewart got 7 all season. I accept that injury played a major role in him being nowt special, although the dramatic upturn in his form under Jacko & later under Bruce vs what he'd been even when fit under Horton. He was good before his injury, but nowhere near the player he was under Jacko or Steve Bruce.
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Jan 27, 2015 0:24:22 GMT 1
Before Stewart got injured against Brum on Oct 8th in his first season he was fantastic, he scored 9 goals in his first 13 appearances, Payton had added five more. We were flying in 7th in THIS division and into the 3rd round of the League cup where Boro with Juninho and Ravanelli waited. After his injury Stewart lost what pace he had and he had to adjust to the number 10 role in which he later excelled. We only had 2 wins in our next 19 league and cup games. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996%E2%80%9397_Huddersfield_Town_A.F.C._seasonAccording to that link Stewart got 7 all season. I accept that injury played a major role in him being nowt special, although the dramatic upturn in his form under Jacko & later under Bruce vs what he'd been even when fit under Horton. He was good before his injury, but nowhere near the player he was under Jacko or Steve Bruce. I disagree did you see his performance against us at Wembley for Bristol I would suggest he never reached that sort of performance after the injury with us.... the 9 goals in 13 games were including cup games see the link below.. www.soccerbase.com/players/player.sd?player_id=7631&season_id=126
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Post by Tinpot on Jan 27, 2015 0:47:31 GMT 1
According to that link Stewart got 7 all season. I accept that injury played a major role in him being nowt special, although the dramatic upturn in his form under Jacko & later under Bruce vs what he'd been even when fit under Horton. He was good before his injury, but nowhere near the player he was under Jacko or Steve Bruce. I disagree did you see his performance against us at Wembley for Bristol I would suggest he never reached that sort of performance after the injury with us.... the 9 goals in 13 games were including cup games see the link below.. www.soccerbase.com/players/player.sd?player_id=7631&season_id=126OK, I stand corrected on the 9 goals in 13 games bit. As for the rest - I suppose it's all about opinions but even after seeing him at Wembley in 95, he actually exceeded my expectations of him. IMO he had better games for us than his Wembley masterclass in 95, and was consistent with it.
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