Novakaine
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Post by Novakaine on Feb 26, 2015 18:07:18 GMT 1
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Post by galpharm2400 on Feb 26, 2015 18:17:32 GMT 1
He really should be called Charlie..
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Novakaine
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Post by Novakaine on Feb 26, 2015 18:19:02 GMT 1
He really should be called Charlie.. Bet he's never heard that one before....
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Post by galpharm2400 on Feb 26, 2015 18:26:33 GMT 1
Dudley is almost as good.. Dudleys should be god botherers...
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Feb 26, 2015 18:32:23 GMT 1
Huddersfield Town is my religion ,and the John Smiths Stadium is my church.
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Post by nicovaesen on Feb 26, 2015 18:35:54 GMT 1
L££d's are the devil
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Post by terriersyndrome on Feb 26, 2015 19:49:05 GMT 1
Religion.. The biggest bullshit story ever told!
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Feb 26, 2015 19:54:21 GMT 1
Cannot stand organised religion, its total bullshit, if there is anyone on here who follows a religion, then apologies, you're entitled to your faith but it ain't for me. Do we really need a club Chaplin, what purpose does it serve? If you want someone to confide in, confide in your bezzy.
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Post by jasonhand on Feb 26, 2015 20:19:07 GMT 1
Struggling to see the problem here. We might have players who are religious and may have requested a club chaplain. Also young men are renowned for not talking about their problems. If this chap can help with that then surely it's a god thing, I'm pretty sure he won't have you reciting the Lord's Prayer come 2.55 on a Saturday afternoon.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Feb 26, 2015 20:23:34 GMT 1
Struggling to see the problem here. We might have players who are religious and may have requested a club chaplain. Also young men are renowned for not talking about their problems. If this chap can help with that then surely it's a god thing, I'm pretty sure he won't have you reciting the Lord's Prayer come 2.55 on a Saturday afternoon. What makes you think they're going to confide in a bloody vicar?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2015 20:32:06 GMT 1
I don't consider myself religious, but I can see the value in this.
If you've ever sat and talked to a Chaplain at a time of distress, or pressure, you'll know what a difference a non judgemental listening ear can make.
People should never dismiss religion out of hand, it brings great strength to many people. It also is the platform for many great things that have happened, and still continue to happen.
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Post by townatheart on Feb 26, 2015 20:33:03 GMT 1
Struggling to see the problem here. We might have players who are religious and may have requested a club chaplain. Also young men are renowned for not talking about their problems. If this chap can help with that then surely it's a god thing, I'm pretty sure he won't have you reciting the Lord's Prayer come 2.55 on a Saturday afternoon. What makes you think they're going to confide in a bloody vicar? and you think that because you dont then no one else possibly could - sometimes the "non-believer" types are more narrow and rigid in their thinking than the closed minded religious gang
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Post by jasonhand on Feb 26, 2015 20:34:10 GMT 1
Struggling to see the problem here. We might have players who are religious and may have requested a club chaplain. Also young men are renowned for not talking about their problems. If this chap can help with that then surely it's a god thing, I'm pretty sure he won't have you reciting the Lord's Prayer come 2.55 on a Saturday afternoon. What makes you think they're going to confide in a bloody vicar? Well going back to my first point if there are players at our club who are religious then yes they would confide in a vicar. Again young men very rarely confide with personal matters with their best friends. Do you know if all our players are atheists? Just for the record I equally don't believe in a greater more anymore than you, but I'm well aware plenty of the population does believe. So with that in mind we probably do have players who believe.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2015 20:38:50 GMT 1
each to their own.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2015 20:40:17 GMT 1
Struggling to see the problem here. We might have players who are religious and may have requested a club chaplain. Also young men are renowned for not talking about their problems. If this chap can help with that then surely it's a god thing, I'm pretty sure he won't have you reciting the Lord's Prayer come 2.55 on a Saturday afternoon. What makes you think they're going to confide in a bloody vicar? He'll sit there in Canalside with them, maybe as a group, and over a coffee just talk to them, but while doing so he'll re-assure them about themselves, gain their confidence, share stories. I used to to talk to the ex chaplain at LGI when Bailey was in there with Leukaemia, chatting to him one day (Christmas Eve I think) amongst a group and all he wanted to do was talk to us about Bailey who was in the next room, as well as the other kids. He asked us how she was getting on, re-assured us that she would be Ok, and commented on how strong she was, all with a demeanour that conveyed positivity, and a heart-warming smile. His son was upstairs fighting for his life in intensive care, he had just come down to get a drink, we only found out when somebody asked how his son was getting on who we all thought was now at home and recovering. Sadly, the lad is no longer with us.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2015 21:08:35 GMT 1
What makes you think they're going to confide in a bloody vicar? He'll sit there in Canalside with them, maybe as a group, and over a coffee just talk to them, but while doing so he'll re-assure them about themselves, gain their confidence, share stories. I used to to talk to the ex chaplain at LGI when Bailey was in there with Leukaemia, chatting to him one day (Christmas Eve I think) amongst a group and all he wanted to do was talk to us about Bailey who was in the next room, as well as the other kids. He asked us how she was getting on, re-assured us that she would be Ok, and commented on how strong she was, all with a demeanour that conveyed positivity, and a heart-warming smile. His son was upstairs fighting for his life in intensive care, he had just come down to get a drink, we only found out when somebody asked how his son was getting on who we all thought was now at home and recovering. Sadly, the lad is no longer with us. Good post G. Although I've recently walked away from any religious belief I had, having someone who you know won't judge you or know you to talk to helps a lot. And it helped me at my hour of need as did some of my very close friends as you well know Mel. Take the religious aspect out of it, it's an arm round you or somebody that can just listen to you. I see no problem in this.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2015 11:00:10 GMT 1
Cannot stand organised religion, its total bullshit, if there is anyone on here who follows a religion, then apologies, you're entitled to your faith but it ain't for me. Do we really need a club Chaplin, what purpose does it serve? If you want someone to confide in, confide in your bezzy. As a follower of Jesus Christ, I too cannot stand organised religion (as He couldn't stand the hypocrisy of the Pharisees). Being made in the image of God, we are body, soul and spirit. If you disregard the latter, then you've missed the whole point of life, which is to walk in tandem with your Creator. A decent chaplain can help to get life in perspective when the going gets tough. Whilst I absolutely love sport, including following Town passionately, football comes way down the list of importance in the overall order of things.
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Post by calken on Feb 27, 2015 11:05:56 GMT 1
I think we need a political party member too and someone from greenpeace.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2015 11:33:06 GMT 1
I don't consider myself religious, but I can see the value in this. If you've ever sat and talked to a Chaplain at a time of distress, or pressure, you'll know what a difference a non judgemental listening ear can make. People should never dismiss religion out of hand, it brings great strength to many people. It also is the platform for many great things that have happened, and still continue to happen. Totally Agree, with psychology becoming an ever bigger part of the game, this makes total sense.
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Post by benhomly on Feb 27, 2015 11:38:41 GMT 1
He really should be called Charlie.. Charlie Martin?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2015 11:49:44 GMT 1
Ignore the religious aspect. If they do as well they can be a great well of support especially for young foolish footballers. Good appointment, I hope they use him.
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Novakaine
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Post by Novakaine on Feb 27, 2015 12:39:45 GMT 1
Cannot stand organised religion, its total bullshit, if there is anyone on here who follows a religion, then apologies, you're entitled to your faith but it ain't for me. Do we really need a club Chaplin, what purpose does it serve? If you want someone to confide in, confide in your bezzy. As a follower of Jesus Christ, I too cannot stand organised religion (as He couldn't stand the hypocrisy of the Pharisees). Being made in the image of God, we are body, soul and spirit. If you disregard the latter, then you've missed the whole point of life, which is to walk in tandem with your Creator. A decent chaplain can help to get life in perspective when the going gets tough. Whilst I absolutely love sport, including following Town passionately, football comes way down the list of importance in the overall order of things. I admit, I can look rough on a bad day, but I'm pretty sure I don't look like this...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2015 12:44:11 GMT 1
Why couldn't they employ a club counsellor with no religious affiliation rather than a chaplain? That way religious non-believers aren't offended and believers couldn't possibly argue either. Unless of course the true purpose of the chaplain is to spread the word of god which to many (not all) non-believers is an intrusion and an insult to their intelligence.
How could anyone argue with that, unless you have an agenda?
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Post by bluedogs, Esq. on Feb 27, 2015 12:51:51 GMT 1
He will be a big help to Smithies with the crosses
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Post by Porrohman on Feb 27, 2015 13:50:04 GMT 1
Was Eileen Drewery too busy ?
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Post by ruud1boy on Feb 27, 2015 14:13:39 GMT 1
As a follower of Jesus Christ, I too cannot stand organised religion (as He couldn't stand the hypocrisy of the Pharisees). Being made in the image of God, we are body, soul and spirit. If you disregard the latter, then you've missed the whole point of life, which is to walk in tandem with your Creator. Now there's a post I never thought I'd see on DATM. I get confused that there's a chaplain's office on Leeds train station and having a chaplain employed by a footy club seems even further from the notion of 'faith' - in itself, a ludicrous concept IMO.
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Post by ruud1boy on Feb 27, 2015 14:15:26 GMT 1
And anyway, what's this Creator doing wandering around Tandem?
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Post by 3Pipe on Feb 27, 2015 14:22:18 GMT 1
to walk in tandem with your Creator. I have two creators, a bit hard to walk in tandem with them when they live hundreds of miles away in Huddersfield but I do make a point to ring once or twice a week to see how they are getting on and have a chat. I have been known to ring three times in a week and heard the male of my two creators shouting in the background 'what the bloody hell does he want again?'
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2015 14:28:42 GMT 1
I'm as cynical as anyone over religion but don't see a problem here - as long as he doesn't wander about in a 'Believe' t-shirt! We have a lot of young players a long way from home, an old head to turn to for a chat must be a good thing. It's the same with my local food bank, the church claims to be the one taking the lead, which grates me, but who really cares so long as those in need get the help they require? Those of us who judge tend to be those who are fortunate enough not to require their help. Plus, counsellors and psychologists probably charge a fortune, a chaplain will be getting bugger all. It fits our ethos perfectly ;-)
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Feb 27, 2015 14:40:01 GMT 1
But why does this person to 'talk to' have to be a nan of god? As said previously couldn't the club just appoint a counsellor. The last person I would talk to is a man of god about anything, believe me and I deffo wouldn't be telling him my inner most problems.
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