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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2015 21:37:35 GMT 1
Recently, the FSF have campaigned to have away tickets in the premier league capped at £20. www.fsf.org.uk/blog/view/fsf-chief-exec-clubs-must-drop-pricesCalls for this price cap have been welcomed by many clubs. With some already having agreements with each other such as Newcastle and West Brom for example. We've seen prices in the championship at away games become unaffordable. Several games such as Leeds, Ipswich and Norwich have all been over £30. Would we as town fans ever boycott an away game that was to expensive? www.fsf.org.uk/latest-news/view/Twenty-s-Plenty-saves-fans-281-000I'd recommend reading both articles, it's time supporters vote with their feet and start telling clubs that football with out fans, is not football.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2015 21:46:09 GMT 1
To me it's simple, but somebody will point out that it isn't I'm sure. Let home teams charge what the chuff they like with their own fans, a fiver a game, twenty quid a game, whatever price comes out on Clibbens' calculator when he's sat on it (this is how categorisation is done). When the fixtures come out Dean contacts Massimo and they agree a price for away fans for both games and the same with every other club. If Massimo insists on £36 then we can charge the same, if Rotherham say they will charge us £20 then we can say okay and charge them the same.
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Post by benmsmith4 on Feb 26, 2015 21:56:07 GMT 1
To me it's simple, but somebody will point out that it isn't I'm sure. Let home teams charge what the chuff they like with their own fans, a fiver a game, twenty quid a game, whatever price comes out on Clibbens' calculator when he's sat on it (this is how categorisation is done). When the fixtures come out Dean contacts Massimo and they agree a price for away fans for both games and the same with every other club. If Massimo insists on £36 then we can charge the same, if Rotherham say they will charge us £20 then we can say okay and charge them the same. Sounds a plan for rich owners to collude with one another to increase their revenues! Just cap it at £20, it's the working persons game and should be governed in the interest of the fans.
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Post by softboy on Feb 26, 2015 22:34:24 GMT 1
Apart from some of the school promotions I think it is fair to say that reducing prices for matches has had little or no effect on actual attendances for home matches. People are simply not interested in watching town other that the usual "faithful" like most of us. There is a comment on another thread saying when/if we play Charlton next season why dont we do the £5 as theyt have done - if we do does anyone honestly think we will get more than 14,000 or so.
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Post by softboy on Feb 26, 2015 22:35:55 GMT 1
Just like if we get into the Premier League a few games will "sell out" but most games will be 18,000 max.
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Post by togterrier on Feb 26, 2015 22:46:28 GMT 1
Just like if we get into the Premier League a few games will "sell out" but most games will be 18,000 max. The first season every home seat will be sold - there are only 20k of them and 35k went to Old Trafford for the 3rd division play off final. I'd wager 60% of them would buy a season card for the top flight. Everybody I know has said they will be doing so if it happens. It might also lessen the number of 'other' football shirts worn by kids around Huddersfield and district.
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Post by benmsmith4 on Feb 26, 2015 22:50:00 GMT 1
I would hope that if we ever got promoted the club would reduce ticket prices given the obscene about of money that circulates in the premier league.
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Post by terrierng on Feb 26, 2015 22:51:06 GMT 1
To me it's simple, but somebody will point out that it isn't I'm sure. Let home teams charge what the chuff they like with their own fans, a fiver a game, twenty quid a game, whatever price comes out on Clibbens' calculator when he's sat on it (this is how categorisation is done). When the fixtures come out Dean contacts Massimo and they agree a price for away fans for both games and the same with every other club. If Massimo insists on £36 then we can charge the same, if Rotherham say they will charge us £20 then we can say okay and charge them the same. Sounds a plan for rich owners to collude with one another to increase their revenues! Just cap it at £20, it's the working persons game and should be governed in the interest of the fans. It hasn't been the working mans game for years:-/
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Post by benmsmith4 on Feb 26, 2015 23:03:10 GMT 1
Sounds a plan for rich owners to collude with one another to increase their revenues! Just cap it at £20, it's the working persons game and should be governed in the interest of the fans. It hasn't been the working mans game for years:-/ Yeah I should have prefaced that with 'historically' or 'in theory'
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Post by softboy on Feb 26, 2015 23:25:44 GMT 1
Town in Premier League, it is mid December, we are in the bottom three, Tuesday night against Stoke. we would sell all home seats - dont make me laugh!
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Post by togterrier on Feb 26, 2015 23:43:50 GMT 1
Town in Premier League, it is mid December, we are in the bottom three, Tuesday night against Stoke. we would sell all home seats - dont make me laugh! There'll be none for sale in mid December, nor November, October, September and probably August? They'd all be sold in June as everybody jumped on the bandwagon.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2015 7:35:42 GMT 1
Apart from some of the school promotions I think it is fair to say that reducing prices for matches has had little or no effect on actual attendances for home matches. People are simply not interested in watching town other that the usual "faithful" like most of us. There is a comment on another thread saying when/if we play Charlton next season why dont we do the £5 as theyt have done - if we do does anyone honestly think we will get more than 14,000 or so. Charlton have sold over £20k tickets at a £5. If we charged that for when Charlton come to us we'd sell more than usual. Categorising doesn't work IMO. Clibbens needs to ditch this idea because it's not working. The articles are tackling away tickets though, away ticket prices are becoming unaffordable.
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Post by Mecha Corte on Feb 27, 2015 17:19:06 GMT 1
The Sunderland/England fan who is running the £20s plenty campaign was on radio 5 in January and bare in mind this was before the latest, much increased tv deal, quoted an amazing fact - the last tv deal increase was so valuable to premiership clubs they could all let in fans to every game FREE OF CHARGE and still have had the same tv revenue as they had from the previous deal !!!!!!
Peter Scudermore when he announced the latest deal, ( I think it works out at £10M for every game and means that should AFCB get promoted they will be worth more than former European Cup winners Ajax and Benfecia. ) made a point of telling the prem teams they have to stop having empty seats !!!!!! Worth thinking about if you support say Sunderland and its WBA away on Friday night, live on Sky and its £35/£40 for a match ticket and you can't get a train home even if you can get time off work to go.
I've said it before, I can honestly see a time when clubs let fans in for free as they need bums on seats to make it watchable on the telly.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Feb 27, 2015 17:47:21 GMT 1
the extra cash from the tv deal will first and foremost be used to pay bigger and bigger fees and wages..that will swallow up most of it so the clubs will continue to charge the same or more for entrance money..
the 'extra' money going into 'football' from these deals is a misnomer, its going into a relatively few pockets and everyone else is back where they started..
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Post by detox on Feb 27, 2015 17:50:29 GMT 1
The good thing about £20 for away fans is that the clubs couldn't charge the home fans more than £20...eat your heart out Clibbo !!
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Post by Essex Terrier on Feb 28, 2015 9:42:00 GMT 1
To me it's simple, but somebody will point out that it isn't I'm sure. Let home teams charge what the chuff they like with their own fans, a fiver a game, twenty quid a game, whatever price comes out on Clibbens' calculator when he's sat on it (this is how categorisation is done). When the fixtures come out Dean contacts Massimo and they agree a price for away fans for both games and the same with every other club. If Massimo insists on £36 then we can charge the same, if Rotherham say they will charge us £20 then we can say okay and charge them the same. Sounds a plan for rich owners to collude with one another to increase their revenues! Just cap it at £20, it's the working persons game and should be governed in the interest of the fans. A romantic and outdated view that its the working persons game, I'm afraid, it's long been sold out to big business, like EUFA, FIFA, Sky, Coca Cola etc. The supporting, game watching fan is now a mere pawn in the game! Sorry, I've woken up a bit grumpy!!!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 9:52:54 GMT 1
Sounds a plan for rich owners to collude with one another to increase their revenues! Just cap it at £20, it's the working persons game and should be governed in the interest of the fans. A romantic and outdated view that its the working persons game, I'm afraid, it's long been sold out to big business, like EUFA, FIFA, Sky, Coca Cola etc. The supporting, game watching fan is now a mere pawn in the game! Sorry, I've woken up a bit grumpy!!! Scruge.
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Post by ruud1boy on Mar 1, 2015 8:54:27 GMT 1
Would we as town fans ever boycott an away game that was too expensive? It wasn't a complete boycott, but plenty of people including me drew the line and stayed away when Leeds started charging £36.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2015 9:13:56 GMT 1
Would we as town fans ever boycott an away game that was too expensive? It wasn't a complete boycott, but plenty of people including me drew the line and stayed away when Leeds started charging £36. I boycotted it to when we beat them 2-1 and regretted it so went te year after and got humped 5-1.... I don't know what the moral of the story is but somewhere in it is don't go to fucking Leeds.
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Post by patfield on Mar 1, 2015 9:17:23 GMT 1
Just a quick one, if we were in the prem. Would you chance it in the away end to save a few quid ?
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Post by ruud1boy on Mar 1, 2015 10:17:47 GMT 1
You'd have to, as the rest of the ground would be sold out to season tickets.
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Post by y2troy on Mar 1, 2015 10:41:20 GMT 1
Need to get more revenue coming as everyone says and bodies through the gates ... As a town the club we need to market the games a lot better as in go to all the businesses and offer reduction on tickets either it be restaraunts round town,sports centres,offices and local communities and getting in touch with local town again ...just a thought
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2015 11:44:59 GMT 1
I will boycott any game that I think it's taking the piss with the price.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2015 12:37:54 GMT 1
So who thinks £30 for a ticket is a piss take at Hillsborough.
Derby were charged a staggering £40 to watch their team at Carrow Road yesterday. FOURTY FECKIN QUID!!
Football is killing itself.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2015 12:42:58 GMT 1
So who thinks £30 for a ticket is a piss take at Hillsborough. Derby were charged a staggering £40 to watch their team at Carrow Road yesterday. FOURTY FECKIN QUID!! Football is killing itself. Until fans stop paying the ticket prices, it's only going to increase. I will never pay £40 to watch town in the championship. A cap is needed but as this thread has shown, there is little support for change from fans.
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Post by colnevalleyblue on Mar 15, 2015 12:43:53 GMT 1
So who thinks £30 for a ticket is a piss take at Hillsborough. Derby were charged a staggering £40 to watch their team at Carrow Road yesterday. FOURTY FECKIN QUID!! Football is killing itself. How many did they take? Sadly it's a case of supply and demand, we're the idiots that pay it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2015 16:22:03 GMT 1
I would hope that if we ever got promoted the club would reduce ticket prices given the obscene about of money that circulates in the premier league. Burnley keep getting mentioned as an example we should follow. What do you think of this season ticket plan? LINK
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Post by benmsmith4 on Mar 15, 2015 16:52:42 GMT 1
I would hope that if we ever got promoted the club would reduce ticket prices given the obscene about of money that circulates in the premier league. Burnley keep getting mentioned as an example we should follow. What do you think of this season ticket plan? LINKCan see what they're trying to do introducing a loyalty scheme but there'd be no need for one if there were widespread ticket price reductions (funded by TV revenues etc.) If you want fans to stay loyal then lowering prices and making them more involved in the club is the way to go and I know its becoming cliche but Germany is the best place to see this in action.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2015 16:58:24 GMT 1
Burnley keep getting mentioned as an example we should follow. What do you think of this season ticket plan? LINKCan see what they're trying to do introducing a loyalty scheme but there'd be no need for one if there were widespread ticket price reductions (funded by TV revenues etc.) If you want fans to stay loyal then lowering prices and making them more involved in the club is the way to go and I know its becoming cliche but Germany is the best place to see this in action. I wish there was a bigger movement for change. A boycott across English football is needed.
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Post by swam4mwg on Mar 15, 2015 17:13:43 GMT 1
Would be very interesting to see what crowds Town would attract if they ever got into The Premier League. When Dean Hoyle did that £100 thing a few years back, they sold over 16,000 season tickets, so you would think there is the potential to at least match that? Prices are one thing, but whats on offer is equally important.
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