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Post by townfan on Mar 2, 2015 9:28:42 GMT 1
Yorkshire News / 27 Feb 2015
Losses widen at Sheffield Wednesday
Pre-tax losses have widened to more than £5m at Sheffield Wednesday FC after a "disappointing drop" in league attendances resulted in a lower turnover.
The Championship side, who are being taken over by a Thai businessman whose family controls one of the world's biggest seafood producers, posted a pre-tax loss of £5.6m for the year to 31 May 2014, compared with a loss of £3.7m a year earlier.
Turnover dropped from £14.9m to £13.9m for the same reporting periods as season ticket numbers fell from 16,526 to 15,305. Overall league attendance levels were down 12 per cent in the 2013/14 season compared with the previous campaign.
Milan Mandaric, who is selling the Owls to Dejphon Chansiri, said he was "extremely disappointed" by the turnover reduction, but added he hoped more fans would return to Hillsborough once new investment is made in both the squad and stadium.
Speaking about the sale of the club, Mandaric said: "Four years ago l asked you to trust me to make the right decisions for your club and in return I promised that when the time came l would leave it in a much healthier position than when l arrived. I think we can all look back and agree we kept our ends of the bargain.
"People ask me what has been the highlight of my time at the club, I think the day we gained promotion from League One in my first full season in charge probably stands out as very special, the memory of so many fans squeezed on to the pitch celebrating after the game still sends a tingle down my spine."
Mandaric added Chansiri's takeover will give Wednesday the "very best chance" of returning to the Premier League. "The skills and enthusiasm he will bring to Sheffield Wednesday give me tremendous hope that success will not be far away, something the supporters of this club so richly deserve," he said.
Chansiri's family controls the Thai Union Frozen Group, the world's largest producer of tuna as well as one of the biggest worldwide general seafood producers.
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Post by Clark W Griswald (CAS) on Mar 2, 2015 10:12:29 GMT 1
Not really in a position to poke fun at them though are we ?
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Post by rothwellterrier on Mar 2, 2015 10:49:00 GMT 1
I think it shows that generally football fans are drifting away from the game due to ever increasing pricing. Unless a team has any kind of "success" then it would seem that more and more people are finding it harder to justify paying for their live football fix.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2015 10:59:39 GMT 1
As said above, we aren't in a position to mock.
If ticket prices increase, there WILL be more empty seats.
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Post by royrace on Mar 2, 2015 11:00:03 GMT 1
I think it shows that generally football fans are drifting away from the game due to ever increasing pricing. Unless a team has any kind of "success" then it would seem that more and more people are finding it harder to justify paying for their live football fix. Agreed but I don't think it's only pricing, there's a new breed of football 'fan' who will never attend a live game or support their local team. To these fans watching the Spanish league is more interesting than watching their local team live. They're being fed a diet of Premier League, Champions League and now leagues from other countries. News from La Liga and the MLS is being reported ahead of our own football leagues on Sky. Not healthy for the football league, I blame Sky, although there is clearly a market for it. Too many plastic armchair fans these days all whingeing about playing 20 odd quid to watch a live game of high quality football in a state of the art stadium whilst happily paying £1200 per year for their SKY subscription. |
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Post by rocky on Mar 2, 2015 11:16:07 GMT 1
I think it shows that generally football fans are drifting away from the game due to ever increasing pricing. Unless a team has any kind of "success" then it would seem that more and more people are finding it harder to justify paying for their live football fix. Agreed but I don't think it's only pricing, there's a new breed of football 'fan' who will never attend a live game or support their local team. To these fans watching the Spanish league is more interesting than watching their local team live. They're being fed a diet of Premier League, Champions League and now leagues from other countries. News from La Liga and the MLS is being reported ahead of our own football leagues on Sky. Not healthy for the football league, I blame Sky, although there is clearly a market for it. Too many plastic armchair fans these days all whingeing about playing 20 odd quid to watch a live game of high quality football in a state of the art stadium whilst happily paying £1200 per year for their SKY subscription. That's a very good point mate & one that is certainly relevant. There should be some very serious alarm bells beginning to sound for the football league with this constant diet of live foreign league football. It's something that's completely alien to me. I can't understand for the life in me why anyone would be interested in what goes on in the Spanish, Dutch or US leagues etc. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2015 11:58:24 GMT 1
As said above, we aren't in a position to mock. If ticket prices increase, there WILL be more empty seats. With our tendancy to underperform in front of bigger crowds, that might not be such a bad thing |
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Post by detox on Mar 2, 2015 12:03:39 GMT 1
" Too many plastic armchair fans these days all whingeing about playing 20 odd quid to watch a live game of high quality football in a state of the art stadium whilst happily paying £1200 per year for their SKY subscription." Read more: downatthemac.proboards.com/thread/95802/crowds-massive#ixzz3TDz9rnelIf only it was 'high quality' ....and I'd hardly call the JSS a 'state of the art stadium' either. Mind you, an interesting point about the extra competition with La Liga etc..and maybe we are becoming a nation of video/tv watchers rather than 'live event' goers ? I rememeber the demise of cinemas in Huddersfield when TV started expanding channels and Sky came showing the lastest films...cinema goers started to stay at home and watch the films and all the cinemas in huddersfield shut down, including the ever popular ABC/Ritz. Only by re inventing themselves with mutli screen complexes, improving the seating and sound systems, providing food and drinks and bar areas have the cinemas been able to revive their fortunes and get their customers back. maybe football needs to have another look at the next generation of football viewing...whatever that my entail ? |
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Post by htfc63 on Mar 2, 2015 12:17:47 GMT 1
I agree with the comments about SKY however theres also another factor why people stay away and that's a lack of entertainment. How often have we seen clubs come to Huddersfield and shut up shop for a point (Yes we also do it on occasions). Maybe its time there was more of an incentive to win away from home rather than draw eg more points for an away win or score draw. On top of this we see average players overpaid and earning salaries way out of kilter with what the vast majority can earn. I love going to Huddersfield as its a great social event however when I see players not giving their all or cheating then I can see why some folk get disillusioned and stop coming.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Mar 2, 2015 12:44:29 GMT 1
I also think with the entertainment side that there has been a tendency towards blanket possession nowadays, stroking it along the back line and into midfield, making the game slower and less entertaining.
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Post by EastCoastTerrier on Mar 2, 2015 13:16:01 GMT 1
I also think with the entertainment side that there has been a tendency towards blanket possession nowadays, stroking it along the back line and into midfield, making the game slower and less entertaining. Blanket possession, otherwise known as Patience and controlling the game. |
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Post by royrace on Mar 2, 2015 13:18:53 GMT 1
" Too many plastic armchair fans these days all whingeing about playing 20 odd quid to watch a live game of high quality football in a state of the art stadium whilst happily paying £1200 per year for their SKY subscription." Read more: downatthemac.proboards.com/thread/95802/crowds-massive#ixzz3TDz9rnelIf only it was 'high quality' ....and I'd hardly call the JSS a 'state of the art stadium' either. Mind you, an interesting point about the extra competition with La Liga etc..and maybe we are becoming a nation of video/tv watchers rather than 'live event' goers ? I rememeber the demise of cinemas in Huddersfield when TV started expanding channels and Sky came showing the lastest films...cinema goers started to stay at home and watch the films and all the cinemas in huddersfield shut down, including the ever popular ABC/Ritz. Only by re inventing themselves with mutli screen complexes, improving the seating and sound systems, providing food and drinks and bar areas have the cinemas been able to revive their fortunes and get their customers back. maybe football needs to have another look at the next generation of football viewing...whatever that my entail ? Compared to what I've seen watching town since our relegation in 99 it is high quality!!! Depends what you expect I guess. We're seeing big clubs week in week out with squads full of ex prem players on thousands of pounds a week. In our own team we have players like Vaughan, Scannell, Bunn, Butterfield, Lynch, Hudson, Smities, thats good enough for me but the days of Kevin Sharpe, Jon Newby etc are still fresh in my memory so I fully appreciate what we've got right now! Re the JSS not being state of the art I don't think its far off to be honest, only thing letting it down is the catering, you wont get a much better match day experience elsewhere IMO. There are improvements that can be made to the price, particularly the price for walk up fans but the club has enough initiatives to make it viable for most committed fans who have a bit of disposable income. The Reading game summed it up pretty well for me when I was hearing fans openly admitting they'd rather watch the Barca game on telly.  . The constant capitulations in big games doesn't exactly help, one day we may put on a show for the fair weathered who grace us with their presence but they'll probably find another excuse not to come the next match anyway! Not sure what the answer is unless clubs can somehow come up with a business model that allows people to attend for a stupidly cheap price, even then it might not help. Sustained success would obviously do the trick but its a bit chicken and egg really. |
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Post by kes on Mar 2, 2015 13:28:57 GMT 1
Many clubs in this division - Forest, Derby, Norwich to name a few are getting regular crowds far bigger than they could ever have hoped for pre sky as top flight clubs. Forest rarely exceeded 22k as champions of Europe. Think at Town we are suffering from a reality check in that at the moment hope of promotion is a long way off.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2015 21:18:39 GMT 1
Yorkshire News / 27 Feb 2015 Losses widen at Sheffield Wednesday Pre-tax losses have widened to more than £5m at Sheffield Wednesday FC after a "disappointing drop" in league attendances resulted in a lower turnover. The Championship side, who are being taken over by a Thai businessman whose family controls one of the world's biggest seafood producers, posted a pre-tax loss of £5.6m for the year to 31 May 2014, compared with a loss of £3.7m a year earlier.
Turnover dropped from £14.9m to £13.9m for the same reporting periods as season ticket numbers fell from 16,526 to 15,305. Overall league attendance levels were down 12 per cent in the 2013/14 season compared with the previous campaign.Milan Mandaric, who is selling the Owls to Dejphon Chansiri, said he was "extremely disappointed" by the turnover reduction, but added he hoped more fans would return to Hillsborough once new investment is made in both the squad and stadium. Speaking about the sale of the club, Mandaric said: "Four years ago l asked you to trust me to make the right decisions for your club and in return I promised that when the time came l would leave it in a much healthier position than when l arrived. I think we can all look back and agree we kept our ends of the bargain."People ask me what has been the highlight of my time at the club, I think the day we gained promotion from League One in my first full season in charge probably stands out as very special, the memory of so many fans squeezed on to the pitch celebrating after the game still sends a tingle down my spine." Mandaric added Chansiri's takeover will give Wednesday the "very best chance" of returning to the Premier League. "The skills and enthusiasm he will bring to Sheffield Wednesday give me tremendous hope that success will not be far away, something the supporters of this club so richly deserve," he said. Chansiri's family controls the Thai Union Frozen Group, the world's largest producer of tuna as well as one of the biggest worldwide general seafood producers. Call me cynical & I appreciate the pedants will ask me to see what state they were in 4y ago but is it not the fact that losses may have increased again next yr and the potential for Milan to make even less profit that has triggered this sale? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 2:42:11 GMT 1
Wednesday have scored only 10 goals at home all season (8 prior to Saturday)... according to friends they've been absolutely dire to watch. Yet they still get 18,000 through the gate. Lots of teams would be more than happy with those crowds.
Anyway, in two years they'll be in the Premiership (apparently, according to their new chairman).
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