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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Mar 2, 2015 21:47:31 GMT 1
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Mar 2, 2015 21:56:34 GMT 1
That's not genuine - I could hear Charlton fans in the background
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2015 21:57:18 GMT 1
Nice to see a full stadium...
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Post by Melc on Mar 2, 2015 22:00:13 GMT 1
You are wasting your talents on here nick lad, get down to canal side and ask Powell if you can show them where they are going wrong. After all it can't get any worse!! Start off by explaining to the players the idea of trying to score more goals than the opposition for starters!
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Mar 2, 2015 22:07:44 GMT 1
To be serious - if any of our players had scored a goal like their first or third we'd have said what great goals they were. Why are some folk always looking for someone to criticise?
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Post by terrier1987cas on Mar 3, 2015 2:04:30 GMT 1
Thought his starting position was awful, seems to always give free kick takers too much to aim for. Won us some valuable points recently but that's just poor positioning.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Mar 3, 2015 3:13:35 GMT 1
there are great goals and just good finishes..if you don't have to do much to get in a scoring position its a good finish..
all goals are good goals from your own point of view..
even town sometimes concede goals that you cant do too much about..if everyone defended properly there would be considerably less goals, unfortunately town are taking the piss out of this last one.. agreed that if Reading had anything about them the other night it would have been 0-0 but its no excuse for us to join them..
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Post by kosi on Mar 3, 2015 7:52:26 GMT 1
Murray Wallace!! WOEFUL
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Post by shawsie on Mar 3, 2015 8:12:14 GMT 1
Been saying that for ages Kosi!!!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 8:25:01 GMT 1
Thought his starting position was awful, seems to always give free kick takers too much to aim for. Won us some valuable points recently but that's just poor positioning. Can't agree there, nothing wrong with his starting position imo. If that goes to Alex's right and in he would rightly get slaughtered for it and you would have a point. Goes over the wall and top corner, nobody but nobody is going to reach that.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Mar 3, 2015 8:27:02 GMT 1
Also, Lynch seems to be very injury prone, plays say 6 to 10 games then out for a month, happened a few times.
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Post by terrier1987cas on Mar 3, 2015 9:41:23 GMT 1
Thought his starting position was awful, seems to always give free kick takers too much to aim for. Won us some valuable points recently but that's just poor positioning. Can't agree there, nothing wrong with his starting position imo. If that goes to Alex's right and in he would rightly get slaughtered for it and you would have a point. Goes over the wall and top corner, nobody but nobody is going to reach that. He's put himself in a position where if they get it over the wall they score, with three quarters of the goal to aim at. Quite often when the opposition get free kicks I think they're given too much to aim at, Wednesday at home for Llera's free kick stands out as an example.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 10:40:59 GMT 1
Can't agree there, nothing wrong with his starting position imo. If that goes to Alex's right and in he would rightly get slaughtered for it and you would have a point. Goes over the wall and top corner, nobody but nobody is going to reach that. He's put himself in a position where if they get it over the wall they score, with three quarters of the goal to aim at. Quite often when the opposition get free kicks I think they're given too much to aim at, Wednesday at home for Llera's free kick stands out as an example. You've gone back 3 years for that example! Yet again over the wall and nicked inside the far post, no way was either "three quarters of the goal to aim at". Blaming a keeper when a free kick goes over the wall and inside the far post is extremely harsh. Sometimes you have to give credit to the goal scorer, somehow I think if that was a Town player scoring like that it would be a wonder goal, the last person getting stick would be their keeper. imo.
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Post by space hardware on Mar 3, 2015 10:51:48 GMT 1
He's put himself in a position where if they get it over the wall they score, with three quarters of the goal to aim at. Quite often when the opposition get free kicks I think they're given too much to aim at, Wednesday at home for Llera's free kick stands out as an example. You've gone back 3 years for that example! Yet again over the wall and nicked inside the far post, no way was either "three quarters of the goal to aim at". Blaming a keeper when a free kick goes over the wall and inside the far post is extremely harsh. Sometimes you have to give credit to the goal scorer, somehow I think if that was a Town player scoring like that it would be a wonder goal, the last person getting stick would be their keeper. imo. Decent free kick but I wouldn't say that was unsaveable. The ball hasn't ended up right in the top corner. I think his footwork is pretty poor as he tries to get across but it's by no means a total clanger.
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Post by detox on Mar 3, 2015 10:56:30 GMT 1
their 3rd goal, was that Hudson who missed his challenge.?
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Post by WaterlooTerrier on Mar 3, 2015 12:32:51 GMT 1
If Smithies positions himself any further over, he risks leaving his side of the goal way more exposed. As a keeper, these situations are about risk vs reward. The chances of someone getting it over the wall and back down again - like the charlton player - are not high enough to warrant him standing more central and therefore leaving his side of the goal exposed. For me, his positioning was pretty much spot on.
I don't think the freekick was 'unsaveable' but I don't think any championship keeper would've got to it.
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Post by terrier1987cas on Mar 3, 2015 13:15:16 GMT 1
He's put himself in a position where if they get it over the wall they score, with three quarters of the goal to aim at. Quite often when the opposition get free kicks I think they're given too much to aim at, Wednesday at home for Llera's free kick stands out as an example. You've gone back 3 years for that example! Yet again over the wall and nicked inside the far post, no way was either "three quarters of the goal to aim at". Blaming a keeper when a free kick goes over the wall and inside the far post is extremely harsh. Sometimes you have to give credit to the goal scorer, somehow I think if that was a Town player scoring like that it would be a wonder goal, the last person getting stick would be their keeper. imo. Only one that came to the top of my head as I was typing! I also think it was now way "three quarters of the goal to aim at" there, more like four fifths. Not saying it was a clanger by Smithies at all and I don't necessary blame him for the goal (I'd blame Edgar for being hopeless in the build-up), I just think he should be positioned better as to not basically say "go on then, put it over there and you score" because that balls ended up nowhere near the corner of the net.
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Post by Amigo on Mar 3, 2015 14:26:52 GMT 1
There were 2 goalkeepers on Goals on Sunday recently watching replays of free kicks in this sort of position and both were trying to explain to Kammy why they would have stood slightly to the side of the wall and not in the middle of the goal. I could be wrong but I think it was Ruddy and Begovic, 2 good experienced keepers and both said if the kicker can get it over the wall and in then fair play to them but they had to cover the side of the goal the wall wasn't at or you're giving the free kick taker 2 options. Smithies is pretty much spot on with his positioning from a top level keepers point of view although there's obviously some on here that know better.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 14:39:23 GMT 1
Correct, what isn't taken into account also is the swerve of the ball, sometimes what would appear to be heading fairly central ends up way from where you'd expect.
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Post by terrier1987cas on Mar 3, 2015 14:52:11 GMT 1
There were 2 goalkeepers on Goals on Sunday recently watching replays of free kicks in this sort of position and both were trying to explain to Kammy why they would have stood slightly to the side of the wall and not in the middle of the goal. I could be wrong but I think it was Ruddy and Begovic, 2 good experienced keepers and both said if the kicker can get it over the wall and in then fair play to them but they had to cover the side of the goal the wall wasn't at or you're giving the free kick taker 2 options. Smithies is pretty much spot on with his positioning from a top level keepers point of view although there's obviously some on here that know better. Surely you don't need professional keepers to tell you why they stand slightly to one side, it's common sense. My point is Smithies is often caught too far to one side, thus giving himself no chance at all of saving it if it goes over the wall, even if it's nowhere near the top corner like on Saturday.
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Post by Amigo on Mar 3, 2015 15:13:02 GMT 1
There were 2 goalkeepers on Goals on Sunday recently watching replays of free kicks in this sort of position and both were trying to explain to Kammy why they would have stood slightly to the side of the wall and not in the middle of the goal. I could be wrong but I think it was Ruddy and Begovic, 2 good experienced keepers and both said if the kicker can get it over the wall and in then fair play to them but they had to cover the side of the goal the wall wasn't at or you're giving the free kick taker 2 options. Smithies is pretty much spot on with his positioning from a top level keepers point of view although there's obviously some on here that know better. Surely you don't need professional keepers to tell you why they stand slightly to one side, it's common sense. My point is Smithies is often caught too far to one side, thus giving himself no chance at all of saving it if it goes over the wall, even if it's nowhere near the top corner like on Saturday. Often?? Once every 3 years, yep you're right... His position was no different to what was being explained on the programme or any other keeper, we don't see it much going the other way because unfortunately there's not much danger of us scoring from a free kick.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 15:13:45 GMT 1
There were 2 goalkeepers on Goals on Sunday recently watching replays of free kicks in this sort of position and both were trying to explain to Kammy why they would have stood slightly to the side of the wall and not in the middle of the goal. I could be wrong but I think it was Ruddy and Begovic, 2 good experienced keepers and both said if the kicker can get it over the wall and in then fair play to them but they had to cover the side of the goal the wall wasn't at or you're giving the free kick taker 2 options. Smithies is pretty much spot on with his positioning from a top level keepers point of view although there's obviously some on here that know better. Surely you don't need professional keepers to tell you why they stand slightly to one side, it's common sense. My point is Smithies is often caught too far to one side, thus giving himself no chance at all of saving it if it goes over the wall, even if it's nowhere near the top corner like on Saturday. Four man wall from what 22 yards? Text book to me. Take a man out so Smithies moves left...suicide.. Instead of stepping over runner smacks it ....GOAL!!!! Sent from my GT-I9300 using proboards
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Post by galpharm2400 on Mar 3, 2015 15:51:29 GMT 1
the free kick given away was stupid and unnecessary..lets start defending better before they get a shot on goal, wall or no wall..
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Post by kosi on Mar 3, 2015 16:19:24 GMT 1
Been saying that for ages Kosi!!! Man of the match in yesterday's examiner mate. I kid you not!!!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 16:20:52 GMT 1
Been saying that for ages Kosi!!! Man of the match in yesterday's examiner mate. I kid you not!!! I had to laugh. The lad that does those ratings is a clown.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 19:15:20 GMT 1
Nice coverage, from angles you don't normally see highlights from.
Would be nice if we could mix our home game highlights footage up like this a bit rather than just the standard view from the Kilner roof.
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Post by shawsie on Mar 3, 2015 20:50:16 GMT 1
Been saying that for ages Kosi!!! Man of the match in yesterday's examiner mate. I kid you not!!! I hate singling out lads cos he's clearly a top professional with a great attitude......but I only see a poor mans peter Clarke. I would love to be proved wrong, and he must train well to get in ahead of Gerrard and Edgar but I want to put my hands over my eyes when he gets the ball and his marking is woeful IMHO.
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