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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 23:23:43 GMT 1
Depends whether you base improvement on league position or points. Last season we finished with less points than the previous season and we are on less points after 35 games than the previous two seasons
So I'd say we're standing still or even going backwards a little
One thing that hasn't changed is our susceptibility to taking a pasting
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Post by thrice on Mar 3, 2015 23:24:58 GMT 1
If that is how it pans out then so be it.
However let's see what this season brings first.
Win on Sat & we are safe to concentrate on pushing on for a solid top half finish.
Blood a few youngsters in the meantime & we will all be counting the days until the new season kicks off once more.
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Post by 3Pipe on Mar 3, 2015 23:25:07 GMT 1
I'm not denying that but added to the two you quoted I make 8 in the last five seasons or so that have gone on to do well. That's 8 out of 15.. better than 50%. Even if one or two clubs fall outside of that five season mark thems still not bad eggs. Yes but look at the numbers above with regards to attendances. All the clubs you mention have a lot more potential than us. Like it or not, we are a small fish in a big pond and we are punching at or above our weight. Look at the teams below or around us in the table!!! Cardiff, Leeds, Fulham, reading, Brighton, Wigan. You don't have to tell me that mate, I'm in full agreement and post many words to the same effect on here. Just pointing out that the clubs that come up from L1, half of them do pretty well actually. I'm happy within the big picture of things. |
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Post by Big Ern on Mar 3, 2015 23:29:39 GMT 1
I disagree. Such a slapshod approach will eventually end in relegation. We cannot keep being lucky, very soon one of those poor 3 teams will be us. Then when we are eventually relegated after not giving it one single good go in this division we will go straight back to the football wilderness. Our football philosophy is wrong. The way we introduce our youth players is wrong. Our loan signings are wrong. The ambition of the club is wrong. Teams who come up and want to be competetive in this division do not play so negatively. We aren't 'luckily' in mid table. We're there because we deserve to be there. This idea that we're somehow 'lucky' that some teams are worse than us is a pile of hogshit. You earn your finishing spot, good or bad. IMO we'll finish about 14-16th in the table because we're the 14th to 16th best team in this division. That'll be an improvement on last season which was itself an improvement on the season before that. Thats a continuation of around 8 straight seasons of finishing in a better position than the previous season- yet the 'ambition of the club is wrong' ?? Laughable. In terms of revenue, crowd sizes and budgets, we're punching a little above our weight. You want to see us give it a good go ( ie spend some money we don't actually have ) , then the answer is the same as with others who moan about that- get yourself down there with your millions, and we'll give it a good go with it!! The ambition of the club when in league 1 was promotion to the championship. Very ambitous. Then the ambition was to stay in the division. Now it seems 3 seasons later that is still the ambition. I appreciate we have moved up a position for the last 8 years but the body language of the club seems to be very defeatist at the moment. In addition to the above although our increase in league position it appears we have a decrease in points, that means we are winning less or losing more. I would take an increase on points every season as a barometer for success than position at this point. |
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Post by htfcterrier23 on Mar 3, 2015 23:40:07 GMT 1
Brentford seem to be a club that accepts the financial disadvantage they are at and make up the gap through the use of analytics and good recruitment. Town lack a clear vision. Under Robins everything was geared towards playing in the 'Huddersfield Town way'. That seems to have been thrown away now. Brentford show it is possible to be competitive in the division without a massive budget but we have to be better than the richer teams in everything we do. How much has Majewski cost? And how much has he played? Hundreds of thousands of pounds pissed away. So many examples of wasting money – we are not in the position to waste that kind of money and be competitive.. What 'financial disadvantage'. The owner has put in over £40 million into the club! 40 Million over 6 years isn't that much in this division. How much has Vincent Tan put into Cardiff? Or Fawaz at Forest? The dodgy Russian at Bournemouth? Parachute payments are more than 60 Million over 4 years. Also consider the fact most clubs get bigger attendances and have more expensive tickets, and yes, we are at a financial disadvantage in this division. Doesn't mean we can't be ambitious however which is what my post was getting at. |
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Mar 3, 2015 23:43:28 GMT 1
We've spent about ten of the last 40 plus seasons in the second tier - three of those getting relegated! By and large we've been third tier (sometimes lower)
We have comparably small crowds. We have comparably cheap tickets. We have one of the lowest revenues in the league.
It's a fact that we are a small team at this level and without a sugar daddy it's questionable whether we'd even be in this league. I personally think anything 16th or above is a noteworthy overachievement
If Brentford and Bournemouth want to do a "Ruberry" good luck to them. I hope it ends better than it did for Town
Of course I'm frustrated today but a week ago I was pretty optimistic and happy - such is football
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 0:10:34 GMT 1
Win a few, draw a few, lose a few more. Finish in mid table or just below. We're a below average team in this division, as our current league position suggests, and it ain't gonna change for a while. I guess we can go along for the ride, or not bother staying in this division is a achievment on our budget. |
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Post by Stewpot on Mar 4, 2015 0:20:58 GMT 1
Brentford aren`t happy just to go along for the ride. They are having a right go, and good luck to `em. Yes and if you look at the history books, they're the exception to the rule. Very few teams have successful seasons after coming up from league one, Bournemouth and Brentford recent exceptions to this. Wolves who were on their arse when they went down to league 1 ? |
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Post by 1timeposter on Mar 4, 2015 0:29:32 GMT 1
Miller is the biggest lump of shit ive seen in a long time. The Titanic could turn quicker in a phone box than he can on the pitch. Powell Powell what ya doing?!
Id think long and hard about giving him some money in the summer. The measure of the man and the impact he has had since he became manager is if he suddenly left tomorrow nobody would actually care. We'd hardly be heartbroken, sobbing into our beers.
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Post by Stewpot on Mar 4, 2015 0:32:53 GMT 1
I disagree. Such a slapshod approach will eventually end in relegation. We cannot keep being lucky, very soon one of those poor 3 teams will be us. Then when we are eventually relegated after not giving it one single good go in this division we will go straight back to the football wilderness. Our football philosophy is wrong. The way we introduce our youth players is wrong. Our loan signings are wrong. The ambition of the club is wrong. Teams who come up and want to be competetive in this division do not play so negatively. We aren't 'luckily' in mid table. We're there because we deserve to be there. This idea that we're somehow 'lucky' that some teams are worse than us is a pile of hogshit. You earn your finishing spot, good or bad. IMO we'll finish about 14-16th in the table because we're the 14th to 16th best team in this division. That'll be an improvement on last season which was itself an improvement on the season before that. Thats a continuation of around 8 straight seasons of finishing in a better position than the previous season- yet the 'ambition of the club is wrong' ?? Laughable. In terms of revenue, crowd sizes and budgets, we're punching a little above our weight. You want to see us give it a good go ( ie spend some money we don't actually have ) , then the answer is the same as with others who moan about that- get yourself down there with your millions, and we'll give it a good go with it!! We tend to hide behind this budget issue, maybe get too blinkered by all that. I posted earlier, have Brentford got a lot more to throw at it than us ? Sometimes there is more to being a successful club than just the monetary budget, it is the ethos of a club, it`s ambition, and the way it sets about doing things to elevate itself above the mediocre. As I said, I haven´t checked on the wealth of the owners, but I guess there`s not a lot in it. If the budget is all we have, then fine, but you cannot constantly defend poor performances, and frankly a couldn´t care less attitude ( on the pitch at least, don`t know about behind the scenes ) by saying it`s all down to the budget, and also saying it´s about where we belong in the scheme of things. Why is it that this is where we belong ? |
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Post by shawsie on Mar 4, 2015 1:13:19 GMT 1
Win a few, draw a few, lose a few more. Finish in mid table or just below. We're a below average team in this division, as our current league position suggests, and it ain't gonna change for a while. I guess we can go along for the ride, or not bother staying in this division is a achievment on our budget. No it's not ! Getting to the premier league a la Swansea, burnley would be an achievement! Swansea averaged 4k at the vetch less than 15 years ago........but through good planning, excellent recruitment and entertaining football now average around 20k. Are we so much smaller than Swansea? Don't we have their catchment? I'm sure we do.......10 yrs or so ago we got nearly 19k for a league game in league 2! Dean Hoyle has been an absolute superstar for this club, but I do sense a degree of tiredness in his tone and manner recently - I can understand it given some of the moronic abuse he has had, but I hope to god he and the board are going to pull out some stops in the summer and re-ignite the enthusiasm which many appear to have lost. Fans can accept narrow defeats and being slightly deflated.....they won't however put up with half arsed drivel and regular spankings particularly on the road.it doesn't matter so much at Fulham and Charlton when folks go for a "day out" but our standard away followings are starting to dip now as well as the home and I know myself I don't have the desire to go away as often as I did. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Mar 4, 2015 1:14:35 GMT 1
We aren't 'luckily' in mid table. We're there because we deserve to be there. This idea that we're somehow 'lucky' that some teams are worse than us is a pile of hogshit. You earn your finishing spot, good or bad. IMO we'll finish about 14-16th in the table because we're the 14th to 16th best team in this division. That'll be an improvement on last season which was itself an improvement on the season before that. Thats a continuation of around 8 straight seasons of finishing in a better position than the previous season- yet the 'ambition of the club is wrong' ?? Laughable. In terms of revenue, crowd sizes and budgets, we're punching a little above our weight. You want to see us give it a good go ( ie spend some money we don't actually have ) , then the answer is the same as with others who moan about that- get yourself down there with your millions, and we'll give it a good go with it!! The ambition of the club when in league 1 was promotion to the championship. Very ambitous. Then the ambition was to stay in the division. Now it seems 3 seasons later that is still the ambition. I appreciate we have moved up a position for the last 8 years but the body language of the club seems to be very defeatist at the moment. In addition to the above although our increase in league position it appears we have a decrease in points, that means we are winning less or losing more. I would take an increase on points every season as a barometer for success than position at this point. League position is a better indication of progress than points. Each individual season is a different competition against different opposition. In 2011/12 you could have finished with 53 points and a healthy 17th place. Then improved your points tally the following season... and got relegated!! This club having an ambition in L1 to go up wasn't 'very' ambitious. It was realistic, no more than that, for a club this size in that division especially with the backing Hoyle was able to put in. Now we're in the championship, the club is still being realistic, knowing that we are one of the smaller clubs , both in terms of support and financial muscle. In terms of resources, we are actually punching above our weight as it is, you seem to forget that. We're steadily improving UP the division. Thats UP !! I don't get what we're doing so wrong myself!! If we can carry on showing the same ambition and progress, we should continue moving UP the tables for a few seasons more yet. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Mar 4, 2015 1:17:24 GMT 1
We aren't 'luckily' in mid table. We're there because we deserve to be there. This idea that we're somehow 'lucky' that some teams are worse than us is a pile of hogshit. You earn your finishing spot, good or bad. IMO we'll finish about 14-16th in the table because we're the 14th to 16th best team in this division. That'll be an improvement on last season which was itself an improvement on the season before that. Thats a continuation of around 8 straight seasons of finishing in a better position than the previous season- yet the 'ambition of the club is wrong' ?? Laughable. In terms of revenue, crowd sizes and budgets, we're punching a little above our weight. You want to see us give it a good go ( ie spend some money we don't actually have ) , then the answer is the same as with others who moan about that- get yourself down there with your millions, and we'll give it a good go with it!! We tend to hide behind this budget issue, maybe get too blinkered by all that. I posted earlier, have Brentford got a lot more to throw at it than us ? Sometimes there is more to being a successful club than just the monetary budget, it is the ethos of a club, it`s ambition, and the way it sets about doing things to elevate itself above the mediocre. As I said, I haven´t checked on the wealth of the owners, but I guess there`s not a lot in it. If the budget is all we have, then fine, but you cannot constantly defend poor performances, and frankly a couldn´t care less attitude ( on the pitch at least, don`t know about behind the scenes ) by saying it`s all down to the budget, and also saying it´s about where we belong in the scheme of things. Why is it that this is where we belong ? Maybe brentford don't, I don't know. But them punching WAAAYYY above their weight, does not alter the fact Town are still punching above ours. I have more faith in our owner to continue a sustained improvement then I do brentfords owner- the one whos just basically forced out the best manager theyve ever had for no good reason!! |
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Post by htfcterrier23 on Mar 4, 2015 2:04:34 GMT 1
40 Million over 6 years isn't that much in this division. How much has Vincent Tan put into Cardiff? Or Fawaz at Forest? The dodgy Russian at Bournemouth? Parachute payments are more than 60 Million over 4 years. Also consider the fact most clubs get bigger attendances and have more expensive tickets, and yes, we are at a financial disadvantage in this division. Doesn't mean we can't be ambitious however which is what my post was getting at Oh dear as per the usual shoot from the hip response on here. The Brentford owner has put in over £40 million ...... Usual supercilious cuntishness. So has Dean Hoyle. What difference does it make? |
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Post by keithAM11532 on Mar 4, 2015 2:58:35 GMT 1
I disagree. Such a slapshod approach will eventually end in relegation. We cannot keep being lucky, very soon one of those poor 3 teams will be us. Then when we are eventually relegated after not giving it one single good go in this division we will go straight back to the football wilderness. Our football philosophy is wrong. The way we introduce our youth players is wrong. Our loan signings are wrong. The ambition of the club is wrong. Teams who come up and want to be competetive in this division do not play so negatively. Do us all a favour, go to the garage and get some rope. Two losses in a row and everything is wrong. Pathetic. |
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Post by keithAM11532 on Mar 4, 2015 3:06:05 GMT 1
What 'financial disadvantage'. The owner has put in over £40 million into the club! 40 Million over 6 years isn't that much in this division. How much has Vincent Tan put into Cardiff? Or Fawaz at Forest? The dodgy Russian at Bournemouth? Parachute payments are more than 60 Million over 4 years. Also consider the fact most clubs get bigger attendances and have more expensive tickets, and yes, we are at a financial disadvantage in this division. Doesn't mean we can't be ambitious however which is what my post was getting at. So fed up with the bandwagon saying we are not ambitious. What exactly is your definition of the correct ambition we should have. And please don't start on about signing the mythically four or five quality players - you will have me reaching for the vomit bag. |
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Mar 4, 2015 4:04:55 GMT 1
I disagree. Such a slapshod approach will eventually end in relegation. We cannot keep being lucky, very soon one of those poor 3 teams will be us. Then when we are eventually relegated after not giving it one single good go in this division we will go straight back to the football wilderness. Our football philosophy is wrong. The way we introduce our youth players is wrong. Our loan signings are wrong. The ambition of the club is wrong. Teams who come up and want to be competetive in this division do not play so negatively. We aren't 'luckily' in mid table. We're there because we deserve to be there. This idea that we're somehow 'lucky' that some teams are worse than us is a pile of hogshit. You earn your finishing spot, good or bad. IMO we'll finish about 14-16th in the table because we're the 14th to 16th best team in this division. That'll be an improvement on last season which was itself an improvement on the season before that. Thats a continuation of around 8 straight seasons of finishing in a better position than the previous season- yet the 'ambition of the club is wrong' ?? Laughable. In terms of revenue, crowd sizes and budgets, we're punching a little above our weight. You want to see us give it a good go ( ie spend some money we don't actually have ) , then the answer is the same as with others who moan about that- get yourself down there with your millions, and we'll give it a good go with it!! You keep repeating this Slapps but i contend our performances this season are as bad, if not worse, than anything these last 7 seasons. The fact that we have about 8 "backs-to-the-wall" wins when we were heavily under the cosh skews the view. Our goal difference is the worst bar the bottom 4 and its not really right to call us mid-table when we are 15th and 19 points from the top six yet only 2 points above the bottom six. We are rarely the better team in a game, no-one is breaking through the ranks (Bunn excepted), no-one is coveting our players and frankly i dont rate a single one of them. There are no Rhodes, Pilks or Roberts. Progress? Throw a six on a die and you can quickly hit a snake instead of a ladder. This squad is going down next season and is lucky to stay up this. I am disillusioned with football in general and Town specifically. Too many mistakes with signings, costs, tactics, managers and the silly home end debacle. I know a lot of people are working hard behind the scenes, i just wish some players were. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Mar 4, 2015 9:18:10 GMT 1
We aren't 'luckily' in mid table. We're there because we deserve to be there. This idea that we're somehow 'lucky' that some teams are worse than us is a pile of hogshit. You earn your finishing spot, good or bad. IMO we'll finish about 14-16th in the table because we're the 14th to 16th best team in this division. That'll be an improvement on last season which was itself an improvement on the season before that. Thats a continuation of around 8 straight seasons of finishing in a better position than the previous season- yet the 'ambition of the club is wrong' ?? Laughable. In terms of revenue, crowd sizes and budgets, we're punching a little above our weight. You want to see us give it a good go ( ie spend some money we don't actually have ) , then the answer is the same as with others who moan about that- get yourself down there with your millions, and we'll give it a good go with it!! You keep repeating this Slapps but i contend our performances this season are as bad, if not worse, than anything these last 7 seasons. The fact that we have about 8 "backs-to-the-wall" wins when we were heavily under the cosh skews the view. Our goal difference is the worst bar the bottom 4 and its not really right to call us mid-table when we are 15th and 19 points from the top six yet only 2 points above the bottom six. We are rarely the better team in a game, no-one is breaking through the ranks (Bunn excepted), no-one is coveting our players and frankly i dont rate a single one of them. There are no Rhodes, Pilks or Roberts. Progress? Throw a six on a die and you can quickly hit a snake instead of a ladder. This squad is going down next season and is lucky to stay up this. I am disillusioned with football in general and Town specifically. Too many mistakes with signings, costs, tactics, managers and the silly home end debacle. I know a lot of people are working hard behind the scenes, i just wish some players were. You sound like another League 1 fan. rather see us dominating Port vale and Walsall on a weekly basis. Youre not alone on here. You don't see enough games to have a very accurate view of how many times we dominate games or have 'backs to the wall' wins. Thats just guess work on your part to fit your argument ( whatever that is) We lose a game so here you are spouting this sort of negative crap. We win a game and you disappear again. Reactionary and melodramatic- its like a drama queen convention on here sometimes. To be honest i can't take your views on football that seriously after saying were as good as down last september, in another badly thought out melodramatic tantrum following a bad result. |
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Post by pieeater on Mar 4, 2015 9:39:29 GMT 1
why though? look at Brentford, they get a lot less average attendance than we do, its their first season in the championship. The difference is they sign players who will take them forward and will improve the team. We sign 2 shit players who couldnt make it at Blackpool or Birmingham =/ Matthew Benham, the Brentford owner, had spent £43 million on the club this time last year, and presumably quite a lot more since. If you read the brilliant 'The Nowhere Men' by Michael Calvin, you'll see how advanced their recruitment system is. They are a very well run club with a very generous backer. Lucky them. Relevance to Town is what? Oh, another poster who thinks the answer to all our problems is for Dean to put his hand further in his pocket. |
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Mar 4, 2015 13:51:46 GMT 1
You keep repeating this Slapps but i contend our performances this season are as bad, if not worse, than anything these last 7 seasons. The fact that we have about 8 "backs-to-the-wall" wins when we were heavily under the cosh skews the view. Our goal difference is the worst bar the bottom 4 and its not really right to call us mid-table when we are 15th and 19 points from the top six yet only 2 points above the bottom six. We are rarely the better team in a game, no-one is breaking through the ranks (Bunn excepted), no-one is coveting our players and frankly i dont rate a single one of them. There are no Rhodes, Pilks or Roberts. Progress? Throw a six on a die and you can quickly hit a snake instead of a ladder. This squad is going down next season and is lucky to stay up this. I am disillusioned with football in general and Town specifically. Too many mistakes with signings, costs, tactics, managers and the silly home end debacle. I know a lot of people are working hard behind the scenes, i just wish some players were. You sound like another League 1 fan. rather see us dominating Port vale and Walsall on a weekly basis. Youre not alone on here. You don't see enough games to have a very accurate view of how many times we dominate games or have 'backs to the wall' wins. Thats just guess work on your part to fit your argument ( whatever that is) We lose a game so here you are spouting this sort of negative crap. We win a game and you disappear again. Reactionary and melodramatic- its like a drama queen convention on here sometimes. To be honest i can't take your views on football that seriously after saying were as good as down last september, in another badly thought out melodramatic tantrum following a bad result. I saw a dozen games last season, 20 the season before and maybe 20 the promo season. Admittedly only six this season but i read several match reports each game, watch highlights and have seen a couple on Wiziwig. There is little to say when we win a game, its always against crap and never with free-flowing football. Most wins are against bottom teams and then ground out. We may not go down next season but i would bet my life we are not going up with this lot. One penalty difference v Sheff United and we would be a mid-table Div 1 team right now.....tops! Compared to most on here (yourself included) i am very neutral....i feel sure mine is the voice of reason and the ever-positive spin on Town is borne of blind faith. I want us to do well as much as the next fan but to pretend all is rosy is nonsense. Our players, squad and club are average. We lack pace, flair, internationals, balls, commitment and tactical nous. The manager is proving to be pretty clueless, like the last 3. I hated Warnock but as Boothy often says we had teams beat in the tunnel. Bullock, Jepson and Roberts would growl at the opponents...this lot we have now check the mirror to see their eyebrows are threaded and then ponce onto the pitch. Seen more balls on a slug. Bradford and Sheff United can raise their games, we could not raise our hats. |
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Post by htfcterrier23 on Mar 4, 2015 14:18:37 GMT 1
Usual supercilious cuntishness. So has Dean Hoyle. What difference does it make? Resorting to vulgar insults says it all....... Ok, maybe you can read what i've actually posted and try and grasp the rather basic point I made: first, Huddersfield and Brentford are at a similar relative financial disadvantage in this division, and second, in order to be more competitive Town should look to emulate Brentford's successful recruitment model. |
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Post by htfcterrier23 on Mar 4, 2015 14:37:24 GMT 1
Ok, maybe you can read what i've actually posted and try and grasp the rather basic point I made: first, Huddersfield and Brentford are at a similar relative financial disadvantage in this division, and second, in order to be more competitive Town should look to emulate Brentford's successful recruitment model. Thank you so much!! Its all so clear now! Ok mate.  |
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Post by Big Ern on Mar 4, 2015 14:56:36 GMT 1
why though? look at Brentford, they get a lot less average attendance than we do, its their first season in the championship. The difference is they sign players who will take them forward and will improve the team. We sign 2 shit players who couldnt make it at Blackpool or Birmingham =/ Matthew Benham, the Brentford owner, had spent £43 million on the club this time last year, and presumably quite a lot more since. If you read the brilliant 'The Nowhere Men' by Michael Calvin, you'll see how advanced their recruitment system is. They are a very well run club with a very generous backer. Lucky them. Relevance to Town is what? Oh, another poster who thinks the answer to all our problems is for Dean to put his hand further in his pocket. When Dean Hoyle took over he stated how he would invest in the team and get us playing attractive football, he said he would bring the good times back to the club. I appreciate he isn't an endless stream of income but right now this team requires investment and we need to be playing better football in order to bring the good times back. He is our chairman and he took on the job knowing what was needed. We will be forever grateful for promotion out of league 1 but seeing us get thrashed season after season whilst playing dull boring football is not what he promised. |
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Post by 10 more on Mar 4, 2015 14:56:42 GMT 1
What 'financial disadvantage'. The owner has put in over £40 million into the club! 40 Million over 6 years isn't that much in this division. How much has Vincent Tan put into Cardiff? Or Fawaz at Forest? The dodgy Russian at Bournemouth? Parachute payments are more than 60 Million over 4 years. Also consider the fact most clubs get bigger attendances and have more expensive tickets, and yes, we are at a financial disadvantage in this division. Doesn't mean we can't be ambitious however which is what my post was getting at. Give your head a shake man, you sound like a little spoilt child. So Dean has put in £60m and it's 'not enough'? Pathetic! Also a team like Brentford, fair play to them but what are they going to do next season when all their great loanee's get recalled at the end of the season? |
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Post by htfcterrier23 on Mar 4, 2015 15:27:40 GMT 1
40 Million over 6 years isn't that much in this division. How much has Vincent Tan put into Cardiff? Or Fawaz at Forest? The dodgy Russian at Bournemouth? Parachute payments are more than 60 Million over 4 years. Also consider the fact most clubs get bigger attendances and have more expensive tickets, and yes, we are at a financial disadvantage in this division. Doesn't mean we can't be ambitious however which is what my post was getting at. Give your head a shake man, you sound like a little spoilt child. So Dean has put in £60m and it's 'not enough'? Pathetic! Also a team like Brentford, fair play to them but what are they going to do next season when all their great loanee's get recalled at the end of the season? Love the rage. I didn't really say any of that but I appreciate your passion for HTFC.  |
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Post by Captainslapper on Mar 4, 2015 18:56:10 GMT 1
You sound like another League 1 fan. rather see us dominating Port vale and Walsall on a weekly basis. Youre not alone on here. You don't see enough games to have a very accurate view of how many times we dominate games or have 'backs to the wall' wins. Thats just guess work on your part to fit your argument ( whatever that is) We lose a game so here you are spouting this sort of negative crap. We win a game and you disappear again. Reactionary and melodramatic- its like a drama queen convention on here sometimes. To be honest i can't take your views on football that seriously after saying were as good as down last september, in another badly thought out melodramatic tantrum following a bad result. I saw a dozen games last season, 20 the season before and maybe 20 the promo season. Admittedly only six this season but i read several match reports each game, watch highlights and have seen a couple on Wiziwig. There is little to say when we win a game, its always against crap and never with free-flowing football. Most wins are against bottom teams and then ground out. We may not go down next season but i would bet my life we are not going up with this lot. One penalty difference v Sheff United and we would be a mid-table Div 1 team right now.....tops! Compared to most on here (yourself included) i am very neutral....i feel sure mine is the voice of reason and the ever-positive spin on Town is borne of blind faith. I want us to do well as much as the next fan but to pretend all is rosy is nonsense. Our players, squad and club are average. We lack pace, flair, internationals, balls, commitment and tactical nous. The manager is proving to be pretty clueless, like the last 3. I hated Warnock but as Boothy often says we had teams beat in the tunnel. Bullock, Jepson and Roberts would growl at the opponents...this lot we have now check the mirror to see their eyebrows are threaded and then ponce onto the pitch. Seen more balls on a slug. Bradford and Sheff United can raise their games, we could not raise our hats. Yeah yeah, when we lose we're rubbish, when we win we're lucky .Teams finish above us because we're rubbish. Teams finish below us because we're lucky there are some even worse than us....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Lets be like sheffield utd and bradford and be in league 1 with players who can growl at opponents. LOL |
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Post by pieeater on Mar 5, 2015 1:37:21 GMT 1
Resorting to vulgar insults says it all....... Ok, maybe you can read what i've actually posted and try and grasp the rather basic point I made: first, Huddersfield and Brentford are at a similar relative financial disadvantage in this division, and second, in order to be more competitive Town should look to emulate Brentford's successful recruitment model. Probably true. But that's a five year turnaround, not a five week one. Which is what so many on here seem to be unable to grasp. |
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Post by pieeater on Mar 5, 2015 1:40:55 GMT 1
Give your head a shake man, you sound like a little spoilt child. So Dean has put in £60m and it's 'not enough'? Pathetic! Also a team like Brentford, fair play to them but what are they going to do next season when all their great loanee's get recalled at the end of the season? Love the rage. I didn't really say any of that but I appreciate your passion for HTFC. But you did. Maybe you didn't intend to, but 'ambition' means money. There are exceptions, of course there are, and clearly we should seek to be one of those exceptions. But there is a close correlation between money spent and success achieved. Therefore, calling for more ambition is calling for us to spend more money. If you don't agree with this, then I'd like you to say exactly what you mean by 'ambition'. It can't just mean saying 'We are ambitious and we seek promotion, not just survival'. Words mean nothing without actions, and when I was a kid I remember Malcolm Macdonald in the Examiner saying 'I'm going to division 1 - who's coming?'. That sounds ambitious, and look where he took us... |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Mar 5, 2015 1:50:32 GMT 1
Stop talking sense pieeater
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