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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2015 8:46:56 GMT 1
40 Million over 6 years isn't that much in this division. How much has Vincent Tan put into Cardiff? Or Fawaz at Forest? The dodgy Russian at Bournemouth? Parachute payments are more than 60 Million over 4 years. Also consider the fact most clubs get bigger attendances and have more expensive tickets, and yes, we are at a financial disadvantage in this division. Doesn't mean we can't be ambitious however which is what my post was getting at. Give your head a shake man, you sound like a little spoilt child. So Dean has put in £60m and it's 'not enough'? Pathetic! Also a team like Brentford, fair play to them but what are they going to do next season when all their great loanee's get recalled at the end of the season? Get in more quality loanees by leveraging their reputation for playing good football and strong league finish
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Post by Captainslapper on Mar 5, 2015 9:10:20 GMT 1
That reputation goes with the manager they've just basically sacked even though hes got them as high as theyve ever been.
We'll finish above brentford next season IMO.
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Post by jqhtfc on Mar 5, 2015 9:33:23 GMT 1
Not really warburton just carried on the good work started by rosler, you get the reputation clubs are happy to send you the players as long as they continue to play the same style is expect that to continue. As for we will finish above them that will all depend how we use the summer window
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Post by Essex Terrier on Mar 5, 2015 10:07:34 GMT 1
Win a few, draw a few, lose a few more. Finish in mid table or just below. We're a below average team in this division, as our current league position suggests, and it ain't gonna change for a while. I guess we can go along for the ride, or not bother Personally, I don't support the club because they are GOOD, I support them because they are MY team, my local team and because I am proud of the type of club Dean Hoyle & others are creating.
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Post by Yesss on Mar 5, 2015 10:49:12 GMT 1
Trying to finish mid-table season after season will bite us on the arse one year. Wouldn't surprise me if It's next season, more money is needed from obvious people to keep getting us climbing in the league instead of trying to be clever and signing players from Birmingham and Blackpool.
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Post by Yesss on Mar 5, 2015 10:52:50 GMT 1
Win a few, draw a few, lose a few more. Finish in mid table or just below. We're a below average team in this division, as our current league position suggests, and it ain't gonna change for a while. I guess we can go along for the ride, or not bother Personally, I don't support the club because they are GOOD, I support them because they are MY team, my local team and because I am proud of the type of club Dean Hoyle & others are creating. Oh dear, wake up.
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Post by terraceterrier on Mar 5, 2015 11:30:45 GMT 1
People moan but Deans done the best he can given the resources everyone must agree, but nothing will ever change unless a big investor comes in.
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Mar 5, 2015 11:51:45 GMT 1
Win a few, draw a few, lose a few more. Finish in mid table or just below. We're a below average team in this division, as our current league position suggests, and it ain't gonna change for a while. I guess we can go along for the ride, or not bother Personally, I don't support the club because they are GOOD, I support them because they are MY team, my local team and because I am proud of the type of club Dean Hoyle & others are creating. Bloody foreigners
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Post by cojones on Mar 5, 2015 12:18:08 GMT 1
why though? look at Brentford, they get a lot less average attendance than we do, its their first season in the championship. The difference is they sign players who will take them forward and will improve the team. We sign 2 shit players who couldnt make it at Blackpool or Birmingham =/ Don't you think that the lure of London is a major factor in this? Foreign players will choose London over our wonderful Town any day and loanees from London Premier League clubs want to stay London based......
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Post by trailingleg on Mar 5, 2015 12:39:25 GMT 1
We aren't 'luckily' in mid table. We're there because we deserve to be there. This idea that we're somehow 'lucky' that some teams are worse than us is a pile of hogshit. You earn your finishing spot, good or bad. IMO we'll finish about 14-16th in the table because we're the 14th to 16th best team in this division. That'll be an improvement on last season which was itself an improvement on the season before that. Thats a continuation of around 8 straight seasons of finishing in a better position than the previous season- yet the 'ambition of the club is wrong' ?? Laughable. In terms of revenue, crowd sizes and budgets, we're punching a little above our weight. You want to see us give it a good go ( ie spend some money we don't actually have ) , then the answer is the same as with others who moan about that- get yourself down there with your millions, and we'll give it a good go with it!! Unfortunately slaps, football fans purchase a season ticket, and with that they buy the self appointed right to demand "The Club" invest money at a ratio 1:30000 to each pound they put in. Seems to me it's the people who don't buy a ST or come on here moaning about how it's too 'expensive,' 'boring,' 'lacking in ambition' etc. etc. that do all the 'demanding.' If you have something against the true supporters with STs who go to every match, you can always join us and become one of the insatiables. By the way, I don't intend to give up my seat to someone who may wish to turn up every now and again, in order to improve the view and experience of him and his mates. Football is fickle - always has been, always will be, even if you support one of the so-called better clubs, except Chelsea, and I'd hate to have to watch them every week. That really would be 'boring' IMO.
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Post by OldRastrickian on Mar 5, 2015 12:53:17 GMT 1
Looking on the bright side......Giants are off to a crap start this season......:-}
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Post by terraceterrier on Mar 5, 2015 12:58:47 GMT 1
Brentford seem to be a club that accepts the financial disadvantage they are at and make up the gap through the use of analytics and good recruitment. Town lack a clear vision. Under Robins everything was geared towards playing in the 'Huddersfield Town way'. That seems to have been thrown away now. Brentford show it is possible to be competitive in the division without a massive budget but we have to be better than the richer teams in everything we do. How much has Majewski cost? And how much has he played? Hundreds of thousands of pounds pissed away. So many examples of wasting money – we are not in the position to waste that kind of money and be competitive.
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Post by terraceterrier on Mar 5, 2015 12:59:21 GMT 1
Looking on the bright side......Giants are off to a crap start this season......:-} Fuck off nobhead
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Post by terraceterrier on Mar 5, 2015 13:35:39 GMT 1
Bit strong from me mate take it as a laugh like im sure your comment was but what the fuck have the rugby team got to do with any of this?
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Post by Marco4 on Mar 5, 2015 13:43:23 GMT 1
why though? look at Brentford, they get a lot less average attendance than we do, its their first season in the championship. The difference is they sign players who will take them forward and will improve the team. We sign 2 shit players who couldnt make it at Blackpool or Birmingham =/ Don't you think that the lure of London is a major factor in this? Foreign players will choose London over our wonderful Town any day and loanees from London Premier League clubs want to stay London based...... I do wonder if there's anything in this; while London has a number of Premier League and Football League clubs that Brentford are one of not-so-very-many, Town would be picking on the likes of Liverpool, Everton and the two Manchester clubs - there's a lot of Football League clubs to choose from in that area; and a few (Bolton, Blackburn, Wigan etc) who likely have connections within the Premier League from their recent time there.
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Post by ringdisco on Mar 5, 2015 13:52:36 GMT 1
why though? look at Brentford, they get a lot less average attendance than we do, its their first season in the championship. The difference is they sign players who will take them forward and will improve the team. We sign 2 shit players who couldnt make it at Blackpool or Birmingham =/ Don't you think that the lure of London is a major factor in this? Foreign players will choose London over our wonderful Town any day and loanees from London Premier League clubs want to stay London based...... Two loanees from Everton....
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Post by Essex Terrier on Mar 5, 2015 14:55:52 GMT 1
Personally, I don't support the club because they are GOOD, I support them because they are MY team, my local team and because I am proud of the type of club Dean Hoyle & others are creating. Oh dear, wake up. Tell you what then lad, why don't you shove your money in and make the difference? You haven't got £350m to invest? You know, there's a reason why DH has and you haven't, my friend! Too many posters on here are too fond of spending others' money, with no real idea of what to do with it.
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Post by Floyds on Mar 5, 2015 15:00:40 GMT 1
As an aside, does anyone know who the big black lad in central midfield was for Brentford the other night?
He's exactly the type of player we need.
Not sure if he was on loan or not, obviously, given I don't know who he is.
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Mar 5, 2015 15:31:43 GMT 1
As an aside, does anyone know who the big black lad in central midfield was for Brentford the other night? He's exactly the type of player we need. Not sure if he was on loan or not, obviously, given I don't know who he is. Diagouraga, otherwise known as "Dave" to Brentford fans. Can't be bothered to look up his history, but I do know he's been at Brentford for a few seasons now, so has been with them in the lower leagues. Always looked decent whenever I saw him, and I agree with your comment. I think he's capable of playing centre back as well.
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Post by Floyds on Mar 5, 2015 15:36:12 GMT 1
Yeah he was decent. Not seen him before. Seemed to compliment their smaller, quicker attacking players well. They have a good balance to their side in fairness.
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Post by cojones on Mar 5, 2015 16:24:33 GMT 1
Don't you think that the lure of London is a major factor in this? Foreign players will choose London over our wonderful Town any day and loanees from London Premier League clubs want to stay London based...... Two loanees from Everton.... Says it all - they chose the bright lights as well!!!!!!! It's difficult for us to attract young players on loan.....
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Post by galpharm2400 on Mar 5, 2015 16:42:59 GMT 1
it costs a lot to get here..Brentford and Bournemouth spent a decent amount to get promoted into here as well..
problem is, in the next year or two the costs of staying here or god forbid, competing towards the top end are going to just keep rising..
if you cant do it via attendances and season cards, that's us Brentford and Bournemouth(if they don get up) all with the same problem, Bolton are in deep do do and others will be incredibly nervous.. Should FFp have any teeth whatsoever then our frugality may come into play, if it does not then Dean has a big decision to make..
the feeling I get is that a good part of our game is coming to a X roads and large scale change is becoming inevitable..one league totally awash with money and the rest feeding off its scraps..
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Post by jqhtfc on Mar 5, 2015 16:49:17 GMT 1
Not necessarily them picking the bright lights of London it's probably more to do with who you know they had forshaw and Bidwell from Everton last season they play good football iso therefore Everton are happy to send players. As for us not being able to attract them we managed just fine under Clark, links are there at clubs look at eyre and bunn both well respected a city, Powell well I'm not sure he says he's got a lot of links at the London clubs let's see if we use them more next season.
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Post by Yesss on Mar 5, 2015 17:17:33 GMT 1
Tell you what then lad, why don't you shove your money in and make the difference? You haven't got £350m to invest? You know, there's a reason why DH has and you haven't, my friend! Too many posters on here are too fond of spending others' money, with no real idea of what to do with it. Tell you what then lad, why don't you take your head out of Dean Hoyles arse?
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Post by Yesss on Mar 5, 2015 17:19:00 GMT 1
People moan but Deans done the best he can given the resources everyone must agree, but nothing will ever change unless a big investor comes in. Agree with that.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2015 17:23:39 GMT 1
why though? look at Brentford, they get a lot less average attendance than we do, its their first season in the championship. The difference is they sign players who will take them forward and will improve the team. We sign 2 shit players who couldnt make it at Blackpool or Birmingham =/ Don't you think that the lure of London is a major factor in this? Foreign players will choose London over our wonderful Town any day and loanees from London Premier League clubs want to stay London based...... And Afobe came from?
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Mar 5, 2015 18:06:08 GMT 1
Don't you think that the lure of London is a major factor in this? Foreign players will choose London over our wonderful Town any day and loanees from London Premier League clubs want to stay London based...... And Afobe came from? I would put the lure more down to the club that pays the most. Money Money Money.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2015 18:11:43 GMT 1
And Afobe came from? I would put the lure more down to the club that pays the most. Money Money Money. Possibly, you can add Croydon born and bred Scannell too.
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Mar 5, 2015 18:22:46 GMT 1
I would put the lure more down to the club that pays the most. Money Money Money. Possibly, you can add Croydon born and bred Scannell too. Powell chose the bright lights of Huddersfield, and I thought his London Player/manager links might have given the club the upper hand to attract some half decent southern based players.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2015 18:35:53 GMT 1
Possibly, you can add Croydon born and bred Scannell too. Powell chose the bright lights of Huddersfield, and I thought his London Player/manager links might have given the club the upper hand to attract some half decent southern based players. Early days, let's see what happens in the summer.
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