The Famous just back thread....Brentford

[Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier]

Sorry about this, not my usual "just back" type of post. I'm afraid Town should be ashamed of themselves tonight. That "performance" was totally unacceptable. A Brentford mate of mine has just texted me to say Town looked as bad as Blackpool did last week. Brentford were everything that Town were not....confident, incisive, sharp and alert. Town were lethargic, slow, incapable of string together more than three or four passes. It was just pathetic. If it wasn't for Smithies, Town would have been three down within 10 minutes. We have now conceded three goals in the last two games within 5 minutes of the start of the game or second half. Where's the concentration? The ironic thing is Harry Bunn actually took his goal very well indeed, but it was literally Town's one and only real effort on goal. Smithies, Hogg and Bunn were OK, the rest, frankly, pathetic.

Sorry about this. I'm off to bed.

[3Pipe]

It's alright, honesty is all we ask for.

[ACW]

Mar 3, 2015 23:40:27 GMT 1 Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier said:

Sorry about this, not my usual "just back" type of post. I'm afraid Town should be ashamed of themselves tonight. That "performance" was totally unacceptable. A Brentford mate of mine has just texted me to say Town looked as bad as Blackpool did last week. Brentford were everything that Town were not....confident, incisive, sharp and alert. Town were lethargic, slow, incapable of string together more than three or four passes. It was just pathetic. If it wasn't for Smithies, Town would have been three down within 10 minutes. We have now conceded three goals in the last two games within 5 minutes of the start of the game or second half. Where's the concentration? The ironic thing is Harry Bunn actually took his goal very well indeed, but it was literally Town's one and only real effort on goal. Smithies, Hogg and Bunn were OK, the rest, frankly, pathetic.

Sorry about this. I'm off to bed.

As I said in another thread, the manner of the defeat is as worrying as the result itself. And it sounds like we have been poor at both ends of the field.

[fredcarno1]

Mar 3, 2015 23:40:27 GMT 1 Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier said:

Sorry about this, not my usual "just back" type of post. I'm afraid Town should be ashamed of themselves tonight. That "performance" was totally unacceptable. A Brentford mate of mine has just texted me to say Town looked as bad as Blackpool did last week. Brentford were everything that Town were not....confident, incisive, sharp and alert. Town were lethargic, slow, incapable of string together more than three or four passes. It was just pathetic. If it wasn't for Smithies, Town would have been three down within 10 minutes. We have now conceded three goals in the last two games within 5 minutes of the start of the game or second half. Where's the concentration? The ironic thing is Harry Bunn actually took his goal very well indeed, but it was literally Town's one and only real effort on goal. Smithies, Hogg and Bunn were OK, the rest, frankly, pathetic.

Sorry about this. I'm off to bed.

Apparently according to some Town 'gave it a really good go' but were just beaten by a better side. Thanks for the report, looks like a similar shambles to the one I saw on Saturday. The ones I feel sorry for are those that had to see both.

[shawsie]

Mar 3, 2015 23:40:27 GMT 1 Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier said:

Sorry about this, not my usual "just back" type of post. I'm afraid Town should be ashamed of themselves tonight. That "performance" was totally unacceptable. A Brentford mate of mine has just texted me to say Town looked as bad as Blackpool did last week. Brentford were everything that Town were not....confident, incisive, sharp and alert. Town were lethargic, slow, incapable of string together more than three or four passes. It was just pathetic. If it wasn't for Smithies, Town would have been three down within 10 minutes. We have now conceded three goals in the last two games within 5 minutes of the start of the game or second half. Where's the concentration? The ironic thing is Harry Bunn actually took his goal very well indeed, but it was literally Town's one and only real effort on goal. Smithies, Hogg and Bunn were OK, the rest, frankly, pathetic.

Sorry about this. I'm off to bed.

I enjoy reading your post match assessments and agree mostly with the points you raise.....the above comments I will take as fact! Very poor night for club, manager and team - must put it right sat and banish any thought of league 1!

[bristolterrier]

Those that know me will always say I am a glass half full person when IT comes to Town but tonight was truly awful.A few observations;

Smithies is a top keeper and kept the score down
Brentford are everything we are not,slick,fit,comfortable on the ball and incisive.
Their keeper passed the ball better than any Town player.
Edger gave one of the worst performances I have ever seen in my 48 years watching Town.
Can anyone tell me what our game plan was?
This squad of players will take us nowhere.
Wallace's second touch is a tackle.We gave the ball away every 3rd pass.
The U18's would have given a better showing.
It was miles worse than Charlton.
The fans were superb AGAIN
Scanz is out of sorts so give Lolley at least a chance.
Off to bed.

[Marco4]

Noticed that Brentford came out a couple of minutes before the second half to warm up. Then started like a train. Coincidence?

[sudbury]

The Directors have a lot to answer for. They've chosen the last four managers, they allowed Edgar to come in on loan who is worse than what we have. Compare this with Charlton's loans - Long on loan from Everton, another from
Arsenal, Pritchard from Tottenham. And the coaching staff can't even teach and instil the basics i.e. marking and
closing down. Won't the Brentford manager be looking for a new job after the end of the season?

[htfcterry]

Just back myself. Appalled to be honest.

I feel that sick at our performance I can't write anything else about the game.

I have sat on the fence with Powell, and I'm still willing for him to give it a shot next season with his own players etc.. but I just can't see him been the man to take us forward.

The players don't deserve their wage tonight.. and let's terminate and pay off the loan of Edgar's. I'd rather just play with 10 men.

[Deleted]

I bet deans wondering what the hell's going on.

[Deleted]

Edgar feels like the new Kay

[E4b]

Mar 4, 2015 6:42:37 GMT 1 @pruneface said:

I bet deans wondering what the hell's going on.

Why not sell or loan out a few more? We might still just crawl over the line! Fantastic!

[dunnyouhavebeen]

Oh come on, don't be too harsh on the poor little cherubs. They had to travel to London. On a coach. Twice. In 4 days. They must have been exhausted. What with the packing, unpacking, updating films on iPads, sleeping.

Not sure if you were aware of that as I can't remember if Powell mentioned it. More than about 6 times.

[bristolterrier]

Mar 4, 2015 6:53:16 GMT 1 fnd said:

Edgar feels like the new Kay

Sad to say that Kay is a far better player than Edger.

[galpharm2400]

we sat off against a team that clearly love to play in your half..they are good at it, they like the one/twos and the extra men being able carte blanche to get forward and support.. they had a shitload of attempts the other week against a blackpool team that sat off and defended, they are used to it at home..

edgar simply is not a footballer..i wont have any argument on it.. he does not know where to be or what he is supposed to be doing and he does it badly..

Bunn will have nudged the scouts again, our only livewire amidst a sea of ineptness and badly disguised lack lustre effort..

If powell had asked warburton how he would like us to play, that's what he would have asked for.. we don't have the confidence or the manager to do anything else it appears..

1-1 at 45.. they moved into 2nd gear and we got spanked.. they probably had a bit in reserve but we capitulated and they didn't have to actually do too much to win easily.. 3rd round fa cup tie between a good championship team and conference strugglers on a good pitch and no motivation from the part timers even after getting back into a game where 3/4 nil would not have been out of the question???

sorry it all smacks of we are safe from the top down.. why not play all the kids if nobody really gives a flying fuck???

'we started both halves badly' mr powell, we didn't start 'either half' and then fell apart at 2-1..

[Giggity]

OP can't have seen us play much since Christmas if he was shocked by the standard of play.

[Tez]

If Edgar is starting on Saturday it's a travesty and Powell is taking the piss!

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Mar 4, 2015 7:41:26 GMT 1 E4b said:

Mar 4, 2015 6:42:37 GMT 1 @pruneface said:

I bet deans wondering what the hell's going on.

Why not sell or loan out a few more? We might still just crawl over the line! Fantastic!

Do you realise sarcasm is the lowest form of wit? You've posted effectively the same thing about 20 times in less than 12 hours. Is that all you've got to contribute?

[Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier]

Mar 4, 2015 9:08:16 GMT 1 Giggity said:

OP can't have seen us play much since Christmas if he was shocked by the standard of play.

That's where you are wrong. I've seen four home games and five away since Christmas. I was not shocked at the performance last night, just angry at their ineptness. Unlike you I don't take delight in Town's least little failings and only criticise as a last resort and when I feel it's really unavoidable, like last night. It's called having a balanced view, and you ain't got it. A home game for me is 450 miles round trip. I assume you live near Huddersfield, how many games you been to down south this season?

[Nickhudds.UTT]

I Like your summary Epsom.
Most of us are very disheartened and angry with such soft performances.
Let's see if they show some balls on Saturday.

[Deleted]

Disappointing last night.
Credit to the 500 town fans who sang non stop. Enjoyed the trip, not the result.

[royrace]

Mar 4, 2015 9:11:39 GMT 1 Tez said:

If Edgar is starting on Saturday it's a travesty and Powell is taking the piss!

Its typical manager standing by his signing bollocks, anyone can see Edgar is shite and shouldnt be anywhere near the first 11 but he's Chris's pet and he wont admit he's signed a pup. Maybe Town scouts should have gone on the Birmingham and Burnley forums if they wanted to find out how shit he is, it seemed to be unanimous, they could have saved a few quid. Yet another shit signing made worse because Powell insists on shoehorning him in the same way he did Poyet. To be honest the signings recently have been dire when you look at the quality other champ sides have brought in. I consider myself to be patient and realistic but getting dicked like this on a regular basis is unacceptable, as is playing sub standard loan players over our own because you wont admit or cant see you've made a mistake. Seems we get taken apart as soon as we come across a team who are on form and up for it, I can accept losing to these teams but not by 3 and 4 on a regular basis. I hope Ward and Hammill don't teach us a lesson on Saturday, if only we had 2 top quality wingers on the bench. I'd have kept Hammill personally. Our options at the moment seem to be an off form Scannell and Joe Lolley who still looks like he's playing in the park with his mates when he makes one of his cameos. Hoping for 3 points on Saturday and a team minus Edgar that's prepared to support the attack, way too many points dropped at home due to playing a flat back 6 and wonky defensive formations.  

[Spunker]

Mar 4, 2015 0:41:41 GMT 1 bristolterrier said:

Those that know me will always say I am a glass half full person when IT comes to Town but tonight was truly awful.A few observations;

Smithies is a top keeper and kept the score down
Brentford are everything we are not,slick,fit,comfortable on the ball and incisive.
Their keeper passed the ball better than any Town player.
Edger gave one of the worst performances I have ever seen in my 48 years watching Town.
Can anyone tell me what our game plan was?
This squad of players will take us nowhere.
Wallace's second touch is a tackle.We gave the ball away every 3rd pass.
The U18's would have given a better showing.
It was miles worse than Charlton.
The fans were superb AGAIN
Scanz is out of sorts so give Lolley at least a chance.
Off to bed.

Unless you're about 16, you will have seen the Wadsworth era and Mark Hudson MK1. So to say Edgar gave one of the worst performances you've seen, it must have been horrific.

I hope he gives the youth a chance to show something instead of persisting with loanees that are not good enough.

[Floyds]

We got a chasing last night. Embarrassing.

Agree with most above although not sure Smithies had his best game, either.

Wallace isn't good enough, Hudson not the leader we needed, Edgar hopeless and the rest non descript.

My record this season: P13 W1 L12. Goal Difference must be pushing -30.


The loan signings that we get compared to Brentford's highlights one of the things that is wrong at our club.

We seem content to muddle on through, and the lowest possible cost, to survive (by any means) in the league again.

Coupled with our meek cup exits, how does anyone believe this strategy is one that can benefit the club long term?

We'll get even fewer fans than we do at the minute.

I don't have a season ticket, and seriously considering not paying the £30(!) on Saturday after setting off at 4 30am yesterday morning to watch that non performance.

[Deleted]

Was Edgar playing centre mid ahead of Coady? If so I think that's more bizarre than Robins starting Matt Crooks centre back first game of the season - and that was a shite decision

[sudbury]

Excellent post Epsom. When I submitted a thread, after the Charlton game, entitled 'Ashamed', I got slated
on here by the 'know-alls' who possess rock-bottom standards and who would support a monkey if it wore
blue and white stripes.

[sudbury]

Excellent report Epsom. When I submitted a thread after the Charlton game entitled 'Ashamed', I got a
slating from the 'know-alls' on here who have rock bottom standards and who would support a monkey if
it wore blue and white stripes. Has anyone got faith in Powell being able to bring in some quality after
seeing his latest additions? And don't tell me that Edgar is better than Goburn - another wage down the drain.

[Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier]

After reading some of these woeful player match reports from those who were at Brentford , i think we can still guarantee that the likes of Wallace,and Edgar will be in the starting line up against Rotherham on Saturday.

[brickthespecial]

Last Tuesday we knocked Reading off their stride by being adventerous, closing them down high up the pitch, getting it wide quickly, defending when we had to. We've seen 2 complete arseholings now at Charlton and Brentford, backed by over 2500 travellers and everyone can see our weakness, our inability to defend as a unit, our inability to retain the ball, too many having an off day too often( Scanz, Edgar, Wallace, then Carroll all last night) some are just physically not up to it, pace and movement just kills us.

What do we do midweek in training,Hogg just will not shoot doesnt want to pass the ball forward, get it and give it as quick as possible where's the drive? our build up play is too laboured allowing the opponents to re-group and Vaughan had his lip out last night when the big centre half pretty much nullified him up there on his own, desperately need Wells back and his movement alongside.

We need 3 points on Saturday and Rotherham with their new influx of players will have the edge up front they were missing for 85 mins on Boxing day for sure, a large support on the ale and up town early to make a real derby atmosphere. We need to follow that up by something at Birmingham to steady the ship the week after, I firmly believe the bottom 3 will remain as is, but its not nice to see us just implode week in week out.

I like Powell as a chap but at the moment he's not cutting it at the sharp end nor are the squad as a 'group' and it's tough spending good money and valuable ownn time following this bunch at the moment on the road.

[Tez]

Mar 4, 2015 10:18:56 GMT 1 royrace said:

Mar 4, 2015 9:11:39 GMT 1 Tez said:

If Edgar is starting on Saturday it's a travesty and Powell is taking the piss!

Its typical manager standing by his signing bollocks, anyone can see Edgar is shite and shouldnt be anywhere near the first 11 but he's Chris's pet and he wont admit he's signed a pup. Maybe Town scouts should have gone on the Birmingham and Burnley forums if they wanted to find out how shit he is, it seemed to be unanimous, they could have saved a few quid. Yet another shit signing made worse because Powell insists on shoehorning him in the same way he did Poyet. To be honest the signings recently have been dire when you look at the quality other champ sides have brought in. I consider myself to be patient and realistic but getting dicked like this on a regular basis is unacceptable, as is playing sub standard loan players over our own because you wont admit or cant see you've made a mistake. Seems we get taken apart as soon as we come across a team who are on form and up for it, I can accept losing to these teams but not by 3 and 4 on a regular basis. I hope Ward and Hammill don't teach us a lesson on Saturday, if only we had 2 top quality wingers on the bench. I'd have kept Hammill personally. Our options at the moment seem to be an off form Scannell and Joe Lolley who still looks like he's playing in the park with his mates when he makes one of his cameos. Hoping for 3 points on Saturday and a team minus Edgar that's prepared to support the attack, way too many points dropped at home due to playing a flat back 6 and wonky defensive formations.  

Hammill can't play on sat as he's only on loan from us to millers.
They have WArdy and hunt though!