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Post by AndySk on Mar 4, 2015 15:05:20 GMT 1
If Edgar is starting on Saturday it's a travesty and Powell is taking the piss! Going by Powells track record he may drop Edgar on Sat but fully expect him to make an appearance (prob in midfield) a few games down the line. Just keep repeating the same obvious mistakes in the hope that one day it might work seems to be his approach to games
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Post by bristolterrier on Mar 4, 2015 16:18:25 GMT 1
We got a chasing last night. Embarrassing. Agree with most above although not sure Smithies had his best game, either. Wallace isn't good enough, Hudson not the leader we needed, Edgar hopeless and the rest non descript. My record this season: P13 W1 L12. Goal Difference must be pushing -30. The loan signings that we get compared to Brentford's highlights one of the things that is wrong at our club. We seem content to muddle on through, and the lowest possible cost, to survive (by any means) in the league again. Coupled with our meek cup exits, how does anyone believe this strategy is one that can benefit the club long term? We'll get even fewer fans than we do at the minute. I don't have a season ticket, and seriously considering not paying the £30(!) on Saturday after setting off at 4 30am yesterday morning to watch that non performance. Agree with your comments Floyds other than Smithies who made 2 top saves about 2 mins apart in one on ones after about 15 mins. It is acknowledged by all that we were woeful but what worried me most was after about 85 mins we had a throw in around half way and it must have taken us a good minute to get the ball and find someone to throw it in. There was no urgency at all. We were 3-1 down but a quick goal and who knows!To say we were lacklustre at that point is being kind. The fans just deserve better.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Mar 4, 2015 16:28:47 GMT 1
the lack of drive and any urgency at all from 60 odd minitues sums up town.. games gone, balls to it.. it became a question of how many Brentford might get..
there is what appears to be a lack of professionalism through the club.. if we put in a bit and it fails to come right quick enough we give it up.. thank god for bunns free header against the run of play against Reading.. lets hope to shit he gets another free one on Saturday before Rotherham realise we are easily beatable...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 16:30:20 GMT 1
We got a chasing last night. Embarrassing. Agree with most above although not sure Smithies had his best game, either. Wallace isn't good enough, Hudson not the leader we needed, Edgar hopeless and the rest non descript. My record this season: P13 W1 L12. Goal Difference must be pushing -30. The loan signings that we get compared to Brentford's highlights one of the things that is wrong at our club. We seem content to muddle on through, and the lowest possible cost, to survive (by any means) in the league again. Coupled with our meek cup exits, how does anyone believe this strategy is one that can benefit the club long term? We'll get even fewer fans than we do at the minute. I don't have a season ticket, and seriously considering not paying the £30(!) on Saturday after setting off at 4 30am yesterday morning to watch that non performance. Agree with your comments Floyds other than Smithies who made 2 top saves about 2 mins apart in one on ones after about 15 mins. It is acknowledged by all that we were woeful but what worried me most was after about 85 mins we had a throw in around half way and it must have taken us a good minute to get the ball and find someone to throw it in. There was no urgency at all. We were 3-1 down but a quick goal and who knows!To say we were lacklustre at that point is being kind. The fans just deserve better. What about the silly sods who decided to play keep ball at 2-1 down?
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Post by buckers on Mar 4, 2015 16:36:22 GMT 1
We got a chasing last night. Embarrassing. Agree with most above although not sure Smithies had his best game, either. Wallace isn't good enough, Hudson not the leader we needed, Edgar hopeless and the rest non descript. My record this season: P13 W1 L12. Goal Difference must be pushing -30. The loan signings that we get compared to Brentford's highlights one of the things that is wrong at our club. We seem content to muddle on through, and the lowest possible cost, to survive (by any means) in the league again. Coupled with our meek cup exits, how does anyone believe this strategy is one that can benefit the club long term? We'll get even fewer fans than we do at the minute. I don't have a season ticket, and seriously considering not paying the £30(!) on Saturday after setting off at 4 30am yesterday morning to watch that non performance. Agree with your comments Floyds other than Smithies who made 2 top saves about 2 mins apart in one on ones after about 15 mins. It is acknowledged by all that we were woeful but what worried me most was after about 85 mins we had a throw in around half way and it must have taken us a good minute to get the ball and find someone to throw it in. There was no urgency at all. We were 3-1 down but a quick goal and who knows!To say we were lacklustre at that point is being kind. The fans just deserve better. It's been said by others on here in the past. When we play with tempo and the attackers (I know we only had one last night so fair enough) and midfielders press the oppositions defence higher up the pitch we look good. When we sit deep and suiciudally invite them on to us we look awful. Why we keep doing this really is baffling. Powell and the coaching team should forget more about football than I'll ever know. So why is it I can see that sitting deep doesn't work and the coaches and manager don't? Don't get me wrong I know we can't play like that every game, but out of the last 4 games only Reading have we played anything like that high energy level. The management and players actually owe the fans a preformance Saturday!
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Post by E4b on Mar 4, 2015 16:43:01 GMT 1
Why not sell or loan out a few more? We might still just crawl over the line! Fantastic! Do you realise sarcasm is the lowest form of wit? You've posted effectively the same thing about 20 times in less than 12 hours. Is that all you've got to contribute? Fantastic!
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Post by galpharm2400 on Mar 4, 2015 17:05:01 GMT 1
buckers..
I may have pointed out the same as you once or twice..
the long standing 'members' of this forum give out a load of shite and will tell you we are as good/poor as we deserve to be and that totally ignoring the bleeding obvious is accepted because some teams have larger wage packets than us(not Brentford though)..
They believe that teams with owners who pump in more money are thereby indebted to work harder than Town and that our manager cannot possibly be expected to know more about the game and how to organise 11 blokes, even though he played at the top level and was capped by England. His subsequent smaller wage packet has seriously affected his judgement and he is full entitled to do little to make any difference to our present position because the money spent says 16th/17th or 18th is 'doing just enough' and along with a low waged squad they must always aim that low and be forgiven when they miss badly..
Pointing out where we have 'come from' and the low crowds(quite a number always appear on here during home games)?? is the excuse given by underachievers, although the talk bandied about talking of 'bright futures' has subsided somewhat.. Totally ignoring the fact that as we achieve another nothing finish in a nothing season, it will add absolutely zero to that crowd next season and will continue to see a drop in revenue whilst we 'achieve' the struggling nothing again is almost totally ignored, fingers in ears and eyes firmly shut..
If Dean has gone as far as he can or wants to then I think he should get out. Said before, I don't believe he ever thought he could oversee the waste of so much money for often, little or nothing in return. The first season there are not a few teams worse than us we are gone, its not looking up, its firmly looking down and hoping..
Negative posters??? not us, we want a positive approach from everyone at the club, Dean hasn't been positive about the first team for ages, Powell isn't sure what the word means and the team are only positive if it goes right for them pretty quickly, if it does not and we don't get helped out they crumble..
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 17:08:38 GMT 1
You've got to be in it to win it. If you don't try you'll never succeed. suicide
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Post by bristolterrier on Mar 4, 2015 17:27:04 GMT 1
Agree with your comments Floyds other than Smithies who made 2 top saves about 2 mins apart in one on ones after about 15 mins. It is acknowledged by all that we were woeful but what worried me most was after about 85 mins we had a throw in around half way and it must have taken us a good minute to get the ball and find someone to throw it in. There was no urgency at all. We were 3-1 down but a quick goal and who knows!To say we were lacklustre at that point is being kind. The fans just deserve better. What about the silly sods who decided to play keep ball at 2-1 down? Agree Cod. They were just idiots.
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Post by wildbillthetownfan on Mar 4, 2015 21:41:29 GMT 1
We were poor last night against a very good Brentford who were full of running, movement and they certainly know how to play. That will be my last away game this season, i,m not wasting my money anymore and the only good thing last night, was chatting to other fans in the New Inn who had travelled from other parts of the country.
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Post by Giggity on Mar 4, 2015 23:00:02 GMT 1
OP can't have seen us play much since Christmas if he was shocked by the standard of play. That's where you are wrong. I've seen four home games and five away since Christmas. I was not shocked at the performance last night, just angry at their ineptness. Unlike you I don't take delight in Town's least little failings and only criticise as a last resort and when I feel it's really unavoidable, like last night. It's called having a balanced view, and you ain't got it. A home game for me is 450 miles round trip. I assume you live near Huddersfield, how many games you been to down south this season? I've been to more home games than you therefore I am a better fan.
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Post by kosi on Mar 4, 2015 23:31:25 GMT 1
Agree with your comments Floyds other than Smithies who made 2 top saves about 2 mins apart in one on ones after about 15 mins. It is acknowledged by all that we were woeful but what worried me most was after about 85 mins we had a throw in around half way and it must have taken us a good minute to get the ball and find someone to throw it in. There was no urgency at all. We were 3-1 down but a quick goal and who knows!To say we were lacklustre at that point is being kind. The fans just deserve better. What about the silly sods who decided to play keep ball at 2-1 down? I was near the guy with the ball. Was quite funny actually! Some were shouting to keep hold of it at him as we'd get r soled if it went back on. The others were getting mad at him for keeping it! I was in the keep camp!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 23:33:20 GMT 1
What about the silly sods who decided to play keep ball at 2-1 down? Agree Cod. They were just idiots. Or just having a bit of fun.
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Post by Mirfielder on Mar 4, 2015 23:49:05 GMT 1
If we don't beat Rotherham on Saturday then it's time to start worrying, because we only have 5 home games left to secure our Championship status. Plus these 5 games include Norwich, Fulham, Ipswich, Derby and Blackburn with bogie man Rhodes, so how many points are we going to get from that little lot? OK, so we also have 5 away games to play, which include in form Birmingham, Hard to score against Wednesday, back in form Forest, the ever improving Brighton and finally the already doomed Blackpool, who play on a sand dune of a pitch where anything can happen.
Wigan are now on a roll having won their last 3 away games and must be confident now of avoiding the drop, so Saturday's match for Town is a "shit or bust" must win game.
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Post by trailingleg on Mar 5, 2015 3:43:11 GMT 1
I once worked with a bloke who'd give me a detailed analysis of the shortcomings of every Town player, as well as the frailties of the manager (Warnock) after every match. When discussing the merits or weaknesses of the positioning of the fullback (Cowan) one day I asked him where he sat in the ground. He replied, 'Oh I wouldn't go to watch that bloody lot if they paid me.' Sound familiar?
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Post by keithAM11532 on Mar 5, 2015 4:04:14 GMT 1
buckers.. I may have pointed out the same as you once or twice.. the long standing 'members' of this forum give out a load of shite and will tell you we are as good/poor as we deserve to be and that totally ignoring the bleeding obvious is accepted because some teams have larger wage packets than us(not Brentford though).. They believe that teams with owners who pump in more money are thereby indebted to work harder than Town and that our manager cannot possibly be expected to know more about the game and how to organise 11 blokes, even though he played at the top level and was capped by England. His subsequent smaller wage packet has seriously affected his judgement and he is full entitled to do little to make any difference to our present position because the money spent says 16th/17th or 18th is 'doing just enough' and along with a low waged squad they must always aim that low and be forgiven when they miss badly.. Pointing out where we have 'come from' and the low crowds(quite a number always appear on here during home games)?? is the excuse given by underachievers, although the talk bandied about talking of 'bright futures' has subsided somewhat.. Totally ignoring the fact that as we achieve another nothing finish in a nothing season, it will add absolutely zero to that crowd next season and will continue to see a drop in revenue whilst we 'achieve' the struggling nothing again is almost totally ignored, fingers in ears and eyes firmly shut.. If Dean has gone as far as he can or wants to then I think he should get out. Said before, I don't believe he ever thought he could oversee the waste of so much money for often, little or nothing in return. The first season there are not a few teams worse than us we are gone, its not looking up, its firmly looking down and hoping.. Negative posters??? not us, we want a positive approach from everyone at the club, Dean hasn't been positive about the first team for ages, Powell isn't sure what the word means and the team are only positive if it goes right for them pretty quickly, if it does not and we don't get helped out they crumble.. Not having a pop here pal, genuine question. why do you bother. Why do you continually post the same message week in week out. if it bothers you that much why do you still keep coming on here to vent your frustration. If it never makes you happy and elated and over the moon - why not go do something else.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Mar 5, 2015 6:49:31 GMT 1
If we don't beat Rotherham on Saturday then it's time to start worrying, because we only have 5 home games left to secure our Championship status. Plus these 5 games include Norwich, Fulham, Ipswich, Derby and Blackburn with bogie man Rhodes, so how many points are we going to get from that little lot? OK, so we also have 5 away games to play, which include in form Birmingham, Hard to score against Wednesday, back in form Forest, the ever improving Brighton and finally the already doomed Blackpool, who play on a sand dune of a pitch where anything can happen. Wigan are now on a roll having won their last 3 away games and must be confident now of avoiding the drop, so Saturday's match for Town is a "shit or bust" must win game. 11 points from relegation with 11 to go and our next game is " shit or bust " Look at the other leagues. Oldham 11th in league one and morecambe 12 th in league two are both 11 points clear of their drop zone ... If you looked at those tables would you say " blimey Oldhams next match is shit or bust " or do you think you're saying it about town cos town is your team and you're getting a little bit hysterical cos we've had two disappointing results ?
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Post by galpharm2400 on Mar 5, 2015 8:45:16 GMT 1
keitha1
same reason as you do, I support the club..not dean hoyle, I was here before him, not powell or most of the players they are passing through..I support the club with my time and money and my vocal support at games, home and away.. however poor we are..
Ive always said its not the losing, we all knew we would lose a good number of games, its how you lose and standing there watching them just either give it up or just make the same schoolboy errors time after time.. the footballspeak we have had to put up with for the past few years from jokers trying to pretend its all so complicated and difficult has taken its toll..
we haven't got a lot of money, we know it but we are paying good money to a manager and a first team squad and if you think they are good value at this time you must be good at fooling yourself or falling for the footballspeak..
the league position and points gained might be just good enough but the numbers of piss poor performances, not inconsistencies, piss poor effort, application and any ideas on how to win the game, are not..
I say so on here, doing it at the game, which some are already doing wont help and just allow players and managers to use more footballspeak for setting low targets and failing to achieve them..
by the way, I have more confidence in the squad than powell, I know we can play a bit and I know how we play best, its risky but getting beat 3 and 4 without taking a risk is plainly fucking stupid and shite to watch..
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Post by Mirfielder on Mar 5, 2015 10:45:00 GMT 1
You can take Wigan out of the equation because they will definitely avoid the drop. That means if we don't beat Rotherham only 5 points will cover all the teams (Town, Rotherham, Fulham, Brighton, Reading & Bolton) who are all trying to avoid accompanying Blackpool & Millwall into League One. So, in my mind it's imperative ("shit or bust") that Town beat Rotherham on Saturday, because if we don't I fear for Town's survival chances.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2015 11:30:12 GMT 1
You can take Wigan out of the equation because they will definitely avoid the drop. That means if we don't beat Rotherham only 5 points will cover all the teams (Town, Rotherham, Fulham, Brighton, Reading & Bolton) who are all trying to avoid accompanying Blackpool & Millwall into League One. So, in my mind it's imperative ("shit or bust") that Town beat Rotherham on Saturday, because if we don't I fear for Town's survival chances. Based on the result against Norwich no doubt, impressive though it was they are a long way from avoiding the drop.
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Post by keithAM11532 on Mar 5, 2015 15:04:22 GMT 1
keitha1 same reason as you do, I support the club..not dean hoyle, I was here before him, not powell or most of the players they are passing through..I support the club with my time and money and my vocal support at games, home and away.. however poor we are.. Ive always said its not the losing, we all knew we would lose a good number of games, its how you lose and standing there watching them just either give it up or just make the same schoolboy errors time after time.. the footballspeak we have had to put up with for the past few years from jokers trying to pretend its all so complicated and difficult has taken its toll.. we haven't got a lot of money, we know it but we are paying good money to a manager and a first team squad and if you think they are good value at this time you must be good at fooling yourself or falling for the footballspeak.. the league position and points gained might be just good enough but the numbers of piss poor performances, not inconsistencies, piss poor effort, application and any ideas on how to win the game, are not.. I say so on here, doing it at the game, which some are already doing wont help and just allow players and managers to use more footballspeak for setting low targets and failing to achieve them.. by the way, I have more confidence in the squad than powell, I know we can play a bit and I know how we play best, its risky but getting beat 3 and 4 without taking a risk is plainly fucking stupid and shite to watch.. I take your point. I think if you had time and you looked just as closely at all the teams in the lower half of all divisions you would see the same issues. that's not meant to be a blanket statement in that all teams have the same problem, but a lot of them do. Its all down to the psychology of the game. or - in footy speak - that's football. And that's said because that's what it is. the players know when they are in for hard game against a better team and they react differently from the off. I fully expect us to smash Rotherham off the park Saturday. Now if we display the kind of issues that disturb you so much and we lose by three or four, well then I shall ne changing my name to Galpharm 2401 and I will move in to your house so we can be dressed together.
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Post by wildbillthetownfan on Mar 5, 2015 19:15:08 GMT 1
What about the silly sods who decided to play keep ball at 2-1 down? I was near the guy with the ball. Was quite funny actually! Some were shouting to keep hold of it at him as we'd get r soled if it went back on. The others were getting mad at him for keeping it! I was in the keep camp! I was in the couldn't be bothered camp. Did someone let a flare off or a smoke bomb at the final whistle, i was making my way out when i could smell buring or was it those horrible Pasties they were selling, there were shocking.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2015 19:24:33 GMT 1
keitha1 same reason as you do, I support the club..not dean hoyle, I was here before him, not powell or most of the players they are passing through..I support the club with my time and money and my vocal support at games, home and away.. however poor we are.. Ive always said its not the losing, we all knew we would lose a good number of games, its how you lose and standing there watching them just either give it up or just make the same schoolboy errors time after time.. the footballspeak we have had to put up with for the past few years from jokers trying to pretend its all so complicated and difficult has taken its toll.. we haven't got a lot of money, we know it but we are paying good money to a manager and a first team squad and if you think they are good value at this time you must be good at fooling yourself or falling for the footballspeak.. the league position and points gained might be just good enough but the numbers of piss poor performances, not inconsistencies, piss poor effort, application and any ideas on how to win the game, are not.. I say so on here, doing it at the game, which some are already doing wont help and just allow players and managers to use more footballspeak for setting low targets and failing to achieve them.. by the way, I have more confidence in the squad than powell, I know we can play a bit and I know how we play best, its risky but getting beat 3 and 4 without taking a risk is plainly fucking stupid and shite to watch.. Just remember that theres 23 other teams in this league that also have ambition and crave success or they wouldn't be here. Its quite simple math that the majority will end up disappointed, but remember if we can get it right the reward whilst were playing in this league will be massive and well worth the wait.
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