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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 23:44:49 GMT 1
While i agree that we had to reduce the squad the bottom line is it has left us threadbare a point the manager has said tonight, ITS ALL RIGHT BLAMING THE MANAGER AS SOME ON HERE DO BUT ITS FAIR TO SAY THAT OTHERS NEED TO TAKE SOME RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE SITUATION. LUCKY FOR US THE RESULTS TONIGHT WERE OK FOR US BUT WE HAVE LOTS TO DO YET TO SECURE SAFETY. So town fans lets pull together and get behind the club but lets not put all the blame on the manager as some do we are a small fish in a big pond
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 23:50:07 GMT 1
If I was a fish, I'd rather be a little fish in a big pond, than a big fish in a little pond. More room to swim around and have swimming good fun.
Unless there was a bigger fish that was gonna eat me, then I'd want to be the big fish.
Seriously. We are down to the bare bones aren't we? We need to look at how we keep our key players fitter for longer.
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Post by htfcterrier23 on Mar 3, 2015 23:51:58 GMT 1
Not that the club don't take any responsibility, it's fans that place all the responsibility with the manager. I'm not convinced Powell is the best manager but ultimately he is just a piece of the puzzle. If people want rid of Powell, at least articulate the reasons why and who you would replace him with. Usually, the names bandied around are hardly football visionaries. Would things really be all that different under Neil Lennon? Would things be all that different is Robins had stayed? Check out their respective win percentages. Changing the manager is often the solution seized upon by many fans but for Town and other clubs, it rarely produces a significant change in fortune.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 23:54:55 GMT 1
I'm NOT TOO sure about this TO be HONEST.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 23:55:57 GMT 1
Not that the club don't take any responsibility, it's fans that place all the responsibility with the manager. I'm not convinced Powell is the best manager but ultimately he is just a piece of the puzzle. If people want rid of Powell, at least articulate the reasons why and who you would replace him with. Usually, the names bandied around are hardly football visionaries. Would things really be all that different under Neil Lennon? Would things be all that different is Robins had stayed? Check out their respective win percentages. Changing the manager is often the solution seized upon by many fans but for Town and other clubs, it rarely produces a significant change in fortune. i agree it doesnt i like powell but we have not added to the squad and that is not the managers fault
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Post by 3Pipe on Mar 4, 2015 0:03:15 GMT 1
While i agree that we had to reduce the squad the bottom line is it has left us threadbare a point the manager has said tonight Whilst we are light at the back with Lynch out I'd hardly say the rest of the squad is threadbare. Miller, Coady, Majewski, Lolley, Gobern, all on the bench and picking up a wage and I reckon most of those would be raring to go. It's not as though he uses his subs to any great effect anyway is it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 0:07:44 GMT 1
While i agree that we had to reduce the squad the bottom line is it has left us threadbare a point the manager has said tonight Whilst we are light at the back with Lynch out I'd hardly say the rest of the squad is threadbare. Miller, Coady, Majewski, Lolley, Gobern, all on the bench and picking up a wage and I reckon most of those would be raring to go. It's not as though he uses his subs to any great effect anyway is it. a fair point but im afraid we have afew who are not championship quality but yes nothing to lose by giving one or two more a chance
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Post by rocky on Mar 4, 2015 0:10:07 GMT 1
There was a lot of talk from within the club about utilising the loan window. It's been open a month now with nothing being done & surely now is the time to get bodies in, particularly at the back.
There is still work to do to stay up (probably need about another 7 or 8 points). The games are coming thick & fast & it's dangerous going into them with so few players.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 0:13:58 GMT 1
There was a lot of talk from within the club about utilising the loan window. It's been open a month now with nothing being done & surely now is the time to get bodies in, particularly at the back. There is still work to do to stay up (probably need about another 7 or 8 points). The games are coming thick & fast & it's dangerous going into them with so few players. Agreee entirly that why i ask the question to the board.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 0:18:26 GMT 1
While i agree that we had to reduce the squad the bottom line is it has left us threadbare a point the manager has said tonight Whilst we are light at the back with Lynch out I'd hardly say the rest of the squad is threadbare. Miller, Coady, Majewski, Lolley, Gobern, all on the bench and picking up a wage and I reckon most of those would be raring to go. It's not as though he uses his subs to any great effect anyway is it. Gobern should be starting before Edgar for me. Lolley is an enigma, or he simply isn't good enough. As for Majewski, I can only assume he has a Les Dawson-esque comedy routine that keeps the rest of the subs entertained week in, week out.
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Post by teddytheterrier on Mar 4, 2015 0:20:23 GMT 1
I can imagine Majewski is hungry for a start!
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Post by 1timeposter on Mar 4, 2015 0:24:33 GMT 1
Majewski must have done something awful if a useless lump like Miller can get in the team before him. So what's Lolley done wrong to never get given a decent go?
My last game of the season tonight. Wont be spunking more hard earned on those useless, clueless twats. No passion, no desire, no ball retention, cant pass, slow. Just truly awful. Out thought, out fought and out played by Brentford. F-ing Brentford.
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Post by klc on Mar 4, 2015 0:30:37 GMT 1
We won't go down - chill out ffs....
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 0:38:21 GMT 1
I don't think the players are out there either last jan or for loan. Edgar seems to be the best we could get. We'll need to get thru to end of season as we are I reckon. Hopefully, we'll have a bit saved up for some quality defensive additions in the summer, cos boy do we need 'em.
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Post by 3Pipe on Mar 4, 2015 0:39:27 GMT 1
As for Majewski, I can only assume he has a Les Dawson-esque comedy routine that keeps the rest of the subs entertained week in, week out. I think he got superglued to the bench as a prank back in September and he's too embarrassed to tell anyone.
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Post by E4b on Mar 4, 2015 0:40:57 GMT 1
If I was a fish, I'd rather be a little fish in a big pond, than a big fish in a little pond. More room to swim around and have swimming good fun. Unless there was a bigger fish that was gonna eat me, then I'd want to be the big fish. Seriously. We are down to the bare bones aren't we? We need to look at how we keep our key players fitter for longer. Yes very! It's the taking part that counts after all!
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Post by E4b on Mar 4, 2015 0:42:21 GMT 1
We won't go down - chill out ffs.... And shopping on a saturday afternoon is not more exciting than watching Powell's rejuvenated world class superstars, honest!
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Post by richyhtfc on Mar 4, 2015 0:42:38 GMT 1
The DATM Bipolar hand swings once again.
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Post by ambryboy on Mar 4, 2015 1:07:00 GMT 1
The main concern for me is that we have less points than at the same stage last season and that became a little edgy towards the end until we scraped past mighty Yeovil. Hoyle has clearly set his sights on reducing costs and thankfully there are 3-4 worse teams in this division than us this season so we should be OK. I'm tired of being fed lies when we were given to believe that there would be player movement in both directions in the transfer window and then again in the loan window, plenty went out (which I don't have a problem with) yet we brought in 2 very low quality replacements, clearly on the cheap just like that poxy programme.
We look like a club that is happy to settle for second best in everything it does and I think that this may be reflected when the early bird season ticket offer comes out and take up is poor. I think ST holders might hold onto their wedge and cherry pick which games to attend next season. The atmosphere at the JS Stadium is shit and I would rather watch Town away from home win, lose or draw it is a much better experience.
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Post by shawsie on Mar 4, 2015 1:17:02 GMT 1
We won't go down - chill out ffs.... And shopping on a saturday afternoon is not more exciting than watching Powell's rejuvenated world class superstars, honest! Has wordy got you some freebies in the away end on sat fella?!
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Post by keithAM11532 on Mar 4, 2015 3:14:06 GMT 1
Whilst we are light at the back with Lynch out I'd hardly say the rest of the squad is threadbare. Miller, Coady, Majewski, Lolley, Gobern, all on the bench and picking up a wage and I reckon most of those would be raring to go. It's not as though he uses his subs to any great effect anyway is it. a fair point but im afraid we have afew who are not championship quality but yes nothing to lose by giving one or two more a chance Actually all our players are championship quality. they play for us and we are a championship team which makes them championship quality players by definition. You just need to acknowledge that some are better than others. Those in teams towards the top of the league on the whole are better than those in teams towards the bottom. Funny old thing but that's how it works.
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Post by bro600 on Mar 4, 2015 7:32:22 GMT 1
The club can make it quite clear with a statement of intent. Dean and C.P need to show their intentions and thoughts re-developing the squad to supporters. Are we limping towards the end of the season with what we have mainly for the financial savings it will bring? Are we actively looking for the players that will improve the squad and would we sign them today if they were available? Are we hoping this squad will benefit from the experience they are gaining so therefore not signing anyone?
Some posters on here would pick negatives out of any statement but there are a great majority who can stomach and would appreciate some long term plan details.
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Post by E4b on Mar 4, 2015 7:36:42 GMT 1
And shopping on a saturday afternoon is not more exciting than watching Powell's rejuvenated world class superstars, honest! Has wordy got you some freebies in the away end on sat fella?! Off shopping!
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Post by kennyk2 on Mar 4, 2015 8:46:01 GMT 1
We won't go down - chill out ffs.... Not this season, but the sword of Damocles is hanging over the club at the moment.
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Post by aideybabes on Mar 4, 2015 8:50:50 GMT 1
We won't go down - chill out ffs.... Still shite football, i didn't go last night but was there for the hiding at Charlton.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Mar 4, 2015 8:51:19 GMT 1
We won't go down - chill out ffs.... Not this season, but the sword of Damocles is hanging over the club at the moment. In what way ? The way I see it the sword of Damocles scenario is Dean hoyle walking away royally fucked off at the tiresome negativity of the " supporters" ... How is mid table championship the sword of Damocles ? Weren't you around when we were mid table fourth division with sub 5k crowds ?
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Post by Tez on Mar 4, 2015 9:00:31 GMT 1
Not this season, but the sword of Damocles is hanging over the club at the moment. In what way ? The way I see it the sword of Damocles scenario is Dean hoyle walking away royally fucked off at the tiresome negativity of the " supporters" ... How is mid table championship the sword of Damocles ? Weren't you around when we were mid table fourth division with sub 5k crowds ? If the Internet had been around then and DATM it'd have been carnage. The bi-polar doomsayers would have ruled supreme!
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Post by midlander on Mar 4, 2015 10:04:08 GMT 1
The club can make it quite clear with a statement of intent. Dean and C.P need to show their intentions and thoughts re-developing the squad to supporters. Are we limping towards the end of the season with what we have mainly for the financial savings it will bring? Are we actively looking for the players that will improve the squad and would we sign them today if they were available? Are we hoping this squad will benefit from the experience they are gaining so therefore not signing anyone? Some posters on here would pick negatives out of any statement but there are a great majority who can stomach and would appreciate some long term plan details. Absolutely how I feel as well. The club have been very quiet about any sort of plan for the future. We can second-guess (and hope) that pennies are being saved now to be used in the summer. We can likewise hope that we are waiting to win a couple more games before unleashing some of the younger lads to see how they perform at this level and give them a taste of the standard required. But, it's hope that generally kills you. I remember feeling encouraged in December when Powell was alluding to lots of movement in and out of the club in the Window - I can't really disagree with any of the departures, but to then not really bring in anybody of note (I don't rate Edgar at all, although Miller 'could' become an asset) smacks of saving money - which is 100% fine if the club actually come out and say that this is the plan. The silence just leads to more and more discontent. The money which may have been saved may well get swallowed up by non-renewals of STs due to some of the very poor fayre on offer at the moment. Most Town fans, despite the knee-jerkers which appear on here after every defeat, are rational enough to get behind the club if they can see a plan for improvement. We seem to have gone from a club who bought every player who breathed, to one who were more frugal but looking at buying younger players to come through the system (Tronstad, Billing, Coogans, etc..), to now not really look like we have any cohesive plan or pathway route. All it would take would be for Hoyle or Wilson to come out and outline some sort of plan that we can then buy into. Problem is that there is absolutely nothing to buy into at them moment - the good performances are more the exception than the norm and whilst I don't think we will go down, the silence from the club is deafening and very concerning.
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Mar 4, 2015 10:26:47 GMT 1
The club can make it quite clear with a statement of intent. Dean and C.P need to show their intentions and thoughts re-developing the squad to supporters. Are we limping towards the end of the season with what we have mainly for the financial savings it will bring? Are we actively looking for the players that will improve the squad and would we sign them today if they were available? Are we hoping this squad will benefit from the experience they are gaining so therefore not signing anyone? Some posters on here would pick negatives out of any statement but there are a great majority who can stomach and would appreciate some long term plan details. Just to add to that would ask them if they've abandoned the Pathways policy? Whilst I wasn't a fan of Robins at least he was willing to give one or two a chance in the first team (Holmes, Billing, Sinnott), whereas Powell seems to think that having one or two on the bench with no intention of playing them is acceptable.
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Post by Amigo on Mar 4, 2015 10:53:09 GMT 1
We won't go down - chill out ffs.... And shopping on a saturday afternoon is not more exciting than watching Powell's rejuvenated world class superstars, honest! If you want to watch world class superstars stay at home and watch sky sports or get a season ticket at Chelsea or City and then you can start pissing and whining at Mourinho and Pellegrini when they draw at home to Burnley.
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