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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 10:53:25 GMT 1
Majewski must have done something awful if a useless lump like Miller can get in the team before him. So what's Lolley done wrong to never get given a decent go? My last game of the season tonight. Wont be spunking more hard earned on those useless, clueless twats. No passion, no desire, no ball retention, cant pass, slow. Just truly awful. Out thought, out fought and out played by Brentford. F-ing Brentford. Same old crap no passion desire etc its nothing to do with that its lack of quality the players are trying but comments like yours just about sum up the football knowledge of some on here. zero
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 10:55:03 GMT 1
The club can make it quite clear with a statement of intent. Dean and C.P need to show their intentions and thoughts re-developing the squad to supporters. Are we limping towards the end of the season with what we have mainly for the financial savings it will bring? Are we actively looking for the players that will improve the squad and would we sign them today if they were available? Are we hoping this squad will benefit from the experience they are gaining so therefore not signing anyone? Some posters on here would pick negatives out of any statement but there are a great majority who can stomach and would appreciate some long term plan details. Absolutely how I feel as well. The club have been very quiet about any sort of plan for the future. We can second-guess (and hope) that pennies are being saved now to be used in the summer. We can likewise hope that we are waiting to win a couple more games before unleashing some of the younger lads to see how they perform at this level and give them a taste of the standard required. But, it's hope that generally kills you. I remember feeling encouraged in December when Powell was alluding to lots of movement in and out of the club in the Window - I can't really disagree with any of the departures, but to then not really bring in anybody of note (I don't rate Edgar at all, although Miller 'could' become an asset) smacks of saving money - which is 100% fine if the club actually come out and say that this is the plan. The silence just leads to more and more discontent. The money which may have been saved may well get swallowed up by non-renewals of STs due to some of the very poor fayre on offer at the moment. Most Town fans, despite the knee-jerkers which appear on here after every defeat, are rational enough to get behind the club if they can see a plan for improvement. We seem to have gone from a club who bought every player who breathed, to one who were more frugal but looking at buying younger players to come through the system (Tronstad, Billing, Coogans, etc..), to now not really look like we have any cohesive plan or pathway route. All it would take would be for Hoyle or Wilson to come out and outline some sort of plan that we can then buy into. Problem is that there is absolutely nothing to buy into at them moment - the good performances are more the exception than the norm and whilst I don't think we will go down, the silence from the club is deafening and very concerning. You make a lot of good points. I've assumed the money we've saved from offloading the dead wood is going to be used in the summer, although it would be good if someone at the club came out and gave more details about this - it is easy to come to a different conclusion (and not saying anything leads you to believe that is correct). I don't have an issue with us not really bringing any bodies in during Jan. I certainly don't see any point at all bringing someone who was just going to come in till the end of the season, so with Miller and Edgar it is worth seeing if they're up to it in these few months before making a decision on signing them permanently or not. As you say, if he's holding some of the younger lads back until we're definitely safe, then ok. However, it's surely valuable to be on the bench, rather than have a player in Majewski who we're not going to bring on and isn't going to be here next season. While there is no guarantee when bringing players in, our signings this summer have got to be better than we've managed the last two season. Players like Paterson, Hammill, Stead, Majewski, Peltier, Richards etc weren't the cheap option, they all had good experience at this level and would be on a wage to reflect that, they were just poor. We can't afford another batch like that. Pathways is reliant on the youngsters being good enough. From the brief appearances, both for us and on loan at other clubs, the year of Sinnott, Crooks, Holmes etc weren't at the level to play Championship football. We've got to hope Billing, Tronstadt, Charles are a step up.
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Post by htfc63 on Mar 4, 2015 11:07:57 GMT 1
I keep hearing how we should give Majewski a chance however if you saw him playing for the development squad you would see why Powell has not used him. The last game I saw him play we may as well have played with 10 men. He contributed nothing even at that level so unless he can massively improve his game we would be better off playing Gobbern. Hopefully we can see the season out and then rebuild as the defence apart from Lynch is not up to Championship standard. For those who are thinking we will spend big in the summer I would think again as I get the feeling it will be those out of contract and on loan who will be brought in. Onwards and upwards.
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Post by bootsywf4 on Mar 4, 2015 11:15:59 GMT 1
Majewski must have done something awful if a useless lump like Miller can get in the team before him. So what's Lolley done wrong to never get given a decent go? My last game of the season tonight. Wont be spunking more hard earned on those useless, clueless twats. No passion, no desire, no ball retention, cant pass, slow. Just truly awful. Out thought, out fought and out played by Brentford. F-ing Brentford. You have it spot on mate,why have we not heard any coments from Deano of late? ?
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Post by wasp on Mar 4, 2015 11:24:03 GMT 1
If I was a fish, I'd rather be a little fish in a big pond, than a big fish in a little pond. More room to swim around and have swimming good fun. Unless there was a bigger fish that was gonna eat me, then I'd want to be the big fish. Seriously. We are down to the bare bones aren't we? We need to look at how we keep our key players fitter for longer. Little fish get eaten!!!!!!
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Post by htfc63 on Mar 4, 2015 11:32:32 GMT 1
The reason Deano keeps quiet is every time he says something he gets slated on here. He is as passionate about Huddersfield as we are (If not more) and I am sure will do his utmost (within reason) to make us successful in the future.
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Post by 1timeposter on Mar 4, 2015 13:59:55 GMT 1
Majewski must have done something awful if a useless lump like Miller can get in the team before him. So what's Lolley done wrong to never get given a decent go? My last game of the season tonight. Wont be spunking more hard earned on those useless, clueless twats. No passion, no desire, no ball retention, cant pass, slow. Just truly awful. Out thought, out fought and out played by Brentford. F-ing Brentford. Same old crap no passion desire etc its nothing to do with that its lack of quality the players are trying but comments like yours just about sum up the football knowledge of some on here. zero
That's your opinion and you're entitled to it. We look afraid, too frightened to have a go. And for me that runs from top to bottom at the Club. A cautious approach never got anyone anywhere. What a contrast between little Brentford, League One last season, and now playing attractive, attacking football and winning games, compared to timid, too frightened Huddersfield. Good luck to them.
If we don't have the quality, why not? To be honest I don't want to really about FFP and how much Dean Hoyle has pumped into the Club. Not really showing on the pitch, is it? Or maybe it's just me. Who knows! Enjoy the rest of the season.
Let us be really honest here. If the owners wasn't local you wouldn't be half as patient.
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Post by 1timeposter on Mar 4, 2015 14:04:07 GMT 1
Majewski must have done something awful if a useless lump like Miller can get in the team before him. So what's Lolley done wrong to never get given a decent go? My last game of the season tonight. Wont be spunking more hard earned on those useless, clueless twats. No passion, no desire, no ball retention, cant pass, slow. Just truly awful. Out thought, out fought and out played by Brentford. F-ing Brentford. You have it spot on mate,why have we not heard any coments from Deano of late? ?
No idea. Probably as fed up as we are. But he brings the managers in, nobody else.
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Post by E4b on Mar 4, 2015 16:49:26 GMT 1
And shopping on a saturday afternoon is not more exciting than watching Powell's rejuvenated world class superstars, honest! If you want to watch world class superstars stay at home and watch sky sports or get a season ticket at Chelsea or City and then you can start pissing and whining at Mourinho and Pellegrini when they draw at home to Burnley. Not the case at all. Modern day football for me is shite, full of diving cheating wankers who possess no pride. If I was to watch another team it would be bread and butter lower league games where you get 100% effort and pride to play for.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 17:13:12 GMT 1
If you want to watch world class superstars stay at home and watch sky sports or get a season ticket at Chelsea or City and then you can start pissing and whining at Mourinho and Pellegrini when they draw at home to Burnley. Not the case at all. Modern day football for me is shite, full of diving cheating wankers who possess no pride. If I was to watch another team it would be bread and butter lower league games where you get 100% effort and pride to play for. And from my experience has its own share of moaning whingers. Also don't try and tell me they don't have their share of diving, cheating wankers.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Mar 4, 2015 17:18:47 GMT 1
we will watch us struggle, we have watched us struggle before. We might lose a number of regulars and that's bad but its nowhere near as fatal as not attracting any decent number of new supporters..
we unload a lot of wages in January which is to try and lower the debt but if we don't back that up in summer with season card sales we are no better off and back to square one.
so what we are saying is that mid table is our highest aim, lower will probably be the result and this is going to continue until the inevitable but what a 'wild ride it has been'...??
that will get them on the phones in a week or two to 'buy into'...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 17:30:15 GMT 1
As most people are moaning I must assume we lost last night.
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Post by neilterrier on Mar 4, 2015 18:19:51 GMT 1
The point here is this in my opinion. Have we reached the point where Hoyle has taken us as far as it can go? Whilst like many others I have supported Town for many years I cannot remember a period where there was so little atmosphere in the stadium - I find it very difficult to motivate myself to take my seat and all around me are saying the same. It is very easy to compare previous season's and era's - life and football has changed and I believe that the "magic" of going to the match has always been the hope that your team can achieve something. Watching what are effectively dead rubbers for a quarter of the season as we accept our fate of finishing lower mid table is not the recipe for obtaining new season ticket holders for what will surely be a similar campaign next season. Where is the excitement and hope? Hoyle needs to become proactive in his engagement of the fans - tell us where he thinks he wants us to go and if necessary admit that he cannot take us any further. He may think that he is happy for us just to be in the Championship but if we are to grow as a club it is difficult to see how this can happen especially if the gates continue to dwindle and the ST take up is as low as I think we are all expecting it to be.
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Post by COWleySHED on Mar 4, 2015 18:27:43 GMT 1
im surprised this thread hasn't been pulled you cant say anything anti-hoyle on datm don't you know he is the messiah
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Post by E4b on Mar 4, 2015 20:43:26 GMT 1
Not the case at all. Modern day football for me is shite, full of diving cheating wankers who possess no pride. If I was to watch another team it would be bread and butter lower league games where you get 100% effort and pride to play for. And from my experience has its own share of moaning whingers. Also don't try and tell me they don't have their share of diving, cheating wankers. Not quite as many.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 20:46:33 GMT 1
And from my experience has its own share of moaning whingers. Also don't try and tell me they don't have their share of diving, cheating wankers. Not quite as many. Proportionately just as many.
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Post by Headless Chicken on Mar 4, 2015 21:44:54 GMT 1
im surprised this thread hasn't been pulled you cant say anything anti-hoyle on datm don't you know he is the messiah Are you having a laugh? This forum definitely leans towards the negative, whilst valid concerns and criticisms are hidden between illiterate nonsense like this.
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Post by specialun on Mar 4, 2015 22:08:31 GMT 1
The club can make it quite clear with a statement of intent. Dean and C.P need to show their intentions and thoughts re-developing the squad to supporters. Are we limping towards the end of the season with what we have mainly for the financial savings it will bring? Are we actively looking for the players that will improve the squad and would we sign them today if they were available? Are we hoping this squad will benefit from the experience they are gaining so therefore not signing anyone? Some posters on here would pick negatives out of any statement but there are a great majority who can stomach and would appreciate some long term plan details. Some posters would see positives out of anything - propaganda posting! Redeveloping the squad? What with Miller and Edgar. Not good enough - if we're saving money we shouldn't be wasting it on them. The manager is anti football, the football is garbage for 5 games in 6. He plays not to lose. Football is about winning. Last time I checked it was 3 points for a win. We'll probably end the season with less points than in the first season we had back in this division Truth is we're not progressing and show no signs of doing so and haven't done for over 12 months. Supporters are voting with their feet. We look stale. If we're looking to blook youngsters, then do so. We don't. 2 mins here, sitting on the bench is not blooding youngsters. I ask again - Who has Powell blooded? Poyet aside - genuine question.
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Post by Essex Terrier on Mar 4, 2015 22:13:03 GMT 1
Powell has shown great faith in Bunn, I'd say he has blooded him in picking him ahead of either Vaughan or Wells at some stage.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Mar 4, 2015 22:20:40 GMT 1
The point here is this in my opinion. Have we reached the point where Hoyle has taken us as far as it can go? Whilst like many others I have supported Town for many years I cannot remember a period where there was so little atmosphere in the stadium - I find it very difficult to motivate myself to take my seat and all around me are saying the same. It is very easy to compare previous season's and era's - life and football has changed and I believe that the "magic" of going to the match has always been the hope that your team can achieve something. Watching what are effectively dead rubbers for a quarter of the season as we accept our fate of finishing lower mid table is not the recipe for obtaining new season ticket holders for what will surely be a similar campaign next season. Where is the excitement and hope? Hoyle needs to become proactive in his engagement of the fans - tell us where he thinks he wants us to go and if necessary admit that he cannot take us any further. He may think that he is happy for us just to be in the Championship but if we are to grow as a club it is difficult to see how this can happen especially if the gates continue to dwindle and the ST take up is as low as I think we are all expecting it to be. Spot on Neil me old cocker....
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Post by tockyterrier on Mar 4, 2015 22:43:53 GMT 1
The main concern for me is that we have less points than at the same stage last season and that became a little edgy towards the end until we scraped past mighty Yeovil. Hoyle has clearly set his sights on reducing costs and thankfully there are 3-4 worse teams in this division than us this season so we should be OK. I'm tired of being fed lies when we were given to believe that there would be player movement in both directions in the transfer window and then again in the loan window, plenty went out (which I don't have a problem with) yet we brought in 2 very low quality replacements, clearly on the cheap just like that poxy programme. We look like a club that is happy to settle for second best in everything it does and I think that this may be reflected when the early bird season ticket offer comes out and take up is poor. I think ST holders might hold onto their wedge and cherry pick which games to attend next season. The atmosphere at the JS Stadium is shit and I would rather watch Town away from home win, lose or draw it is a much better experience. Funny thing is, the atmosphere was much better last Tuesday when must if the negative moaners must have stayed away and missed a good match ? Sent from my HTC One mini 2 using proboards
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Post by detox on Mar 4, 2015 22:54:04 GMT 1
If dean is building up his 'war chest'for the summer he is hardly likely to broadcast it is he ? We have the funds which were said to be available last summer and which wasn't spent, plus the profit on the clayton/norwood/butterworth/coady deals...plus the money we had available for this january plus the savings from players released....that should be this summers 'war chest'...
The only doubt in my mind is the complete silence at the club...the trimming of the squad we knew was coming but I think we were all surpised how many went...we didn't spend anything at all and I'm just wondering if this is because Dean is in negotiations over the sale of the club ? Everything seems to have stopped still...and that to me sounds like something is afoot....maybe I'm just making 2+2 = 5 ...but it is eerily quiet down there.
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Post by bro600 on Mar 4, 2015 23:16:16 GMT 1
The club can make it quite clear with a statement of intent. Dean and C.P need to show their intentions and thoughts re-developing the squad to supporters. Are we limping towards the end of the season with what we have mainly for the financial savings it will bring? Are we actively looking for the players that will improve the squad and would we sign them today if they were available? Are we hoping this squad will benefit from the experience they are gaining so therefore not signing anyone? Some posters on here would pick negatives out of any statement but there are a great majority who can stomach and would appreciate some long term plan details. Some posters would see positives out of anything - propaganda posting! Redeveloping the squad? What with Miller and Edgar. Not good enough - if we're saving money we shouldn't be wasting it on them. The manager is anti football, the football is garbage for 5 games in 6. He plays not to lose. Football is about winning. Last time I checked it was 3 points for a win. We'll probably end the season with less points than in the first season we had back in this division Truth is we're not progressing and show no signs of doing so and haven't done for over 12 months. Supporters are voting with their feet. We look stale. If we're looking to blook youngsters, then do so. We don't. 2 mins here, sitting on the bench is not blooding youngsters. I ask again - Who has Powell blooded? Poyet aside - genuine question. I would argue that 5 out of 6 Championship games are Garbage and negative and that most of the teams in it play not to lose. I would also hold up the Huddersfield v Wolves game as a perfect example of an HTFC team set out and picked to gain three points but getting arseholed because modern day coaches rarely get away with systems that don't take into account that you need a midfielder who is intelligent enough to sit deep when required and step out when it's possible. It's ok saying HTFC are not progressing but the statistic of 17 Championship clubs changing their manager over the course of the last 12 months speaks volumes about the state of this division...Panic stations all over the shop...Sack the manager...Buy our way out of it...Sack the board...Invest, invest, invest and invest... Supporters are voting with their feet because it's getting harder and harder to justify spending what is for most supporters a days wage or half a weeks benefit watching HTFC and they find it hard to stomach a footballer earning in 2 months what they earn in a year.. They are walking away because the powers that be have turned football matches into sterile events where you can't even show emotion without a warning or half of the stadium tutting profoundly. The business in football as become more important than the end product because the rungs in the football ladder are so far apart and the game we all fell in love with is heading for the scrap heap. HTFC are merely a victim of circumstances..They need to bite the bullet and be prepared to lose 2000 supporters to keep to their long term plan..That is the only way forward..Have a little confidence in what you've got planned and let it come to fruition.. Just tell the diehards who will support the club through thick and thin your plans, if they succeed the disenchanted will return..
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Post by shawsie on Mar 4, 2015 23:30:27 GMT 1
Some posters would see positives out of anything - propaganda posting! Redeveloping the squad? What with Miller and Edgar. Not good enough - if we're saving money we shouldn't be wasting it on them. The manager is anti football, the football is garbage for 5 games in 6. He plays not to lose. Football is about winning. Last time I checked it was 3 points for a win. We'll probably end the season with less points than in the first season we had back in this division Truth is we're not progressing and show no signs of doing so and haven't done for over 12 months. Supporters are voting with their feet. We look stale. If we're looking to blook youngsters, then do so. We don't. 2 mins here, sitting on the bench is not blooding youngsters. I ask again - Who has Powell blooded? Poyet aside - genuine question. I would argue that 5 out of 6 Championship games are Garbage and negative and that most of the teams in it play not to lose. I would also hold up the Huddersfield v Wolves game as a perfect example of an HTFC team set out and picked to gain three points but getting arseholed because modern day coaches rarely get away with systems that don't take into account that you need a midfielder who is intelligent enough to sit deep when required and step out when it's possible. It's ok saying HTFC are not progressing but the statistic of 17 Championship clubs changing their manager over the course of the last 12 months speaks volumes about the state of this division...Panic stations all over the shop...Sack the manager...Buy our way out of it...Sack the board...Invest, invest, invest and invest... Supporters are voting with their feet because it's getting harder and harder to justify spending what is for most supporters a days wage or half a weeks benefit watching HTFC and they find it hard to stomach a footballer earning in 2 months what they earn in a year.. They are walking away because the powers that be have turned football matches into sterile events where you can't even show emotion without a warning or half of the stadium tutting profoundly. The business in football as become more important than the end product because the rungs in the football ladder are so far apart and the game we all fell in love with is heading for the scrap heap. HTFC are merely a victim of circumstances..They need to bite the bullet and be prepared to lose 2000 supporters to keep to their long term plan..That is the only way forward..Have a little confidence in what you've got planned and let it come to fruition.. Just tell the diehards who will support the club through thick and thin your plans, if they succeed the disenchanted will return.. Great post bro.....when clubs at this level charge 35/40 quid to watch a game of football then there's something horribly wrong! Grounds less than half full at brum (15k) Leeds (19.7k) and sheff wed (19.5k) are proof that fans are voting with their feet.......even acknowledging that its a wed night. Nobody talks about going to the prem because it's the best league anymore....it's cos it's a marketing miracle with untold riches even for those who fail and get relegated. The sad thing is many still think that we have never had it so good in football!
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Post by specialun on Mar 4, 2015 23:33:24 GMT 1
Some posters would see positives out of anything - propaganda posting! Redeveloping the squad? What with Miller and Edgar. Not good enough - if we're saving money we shouldn't be wasting it on them. The manager is anti football, the football is garbage for 5 games in 6. He plays not to lose. Football is about winning. Last time I checked it was 3 points for a win. We'll probably end the season with less points than in the first season we had back in this division Truth is we're not progressing and show no signs of doing so and haven't done for over 12 months. Supporters are voting with their feet. We look stale. If we're looking to blook youngsters, then do so. We don't. 2 mins here, sitting on the bench is not blooding youngsters. I ask again - Who has Powell blooded? Poyet aside - genuine question. I would argue that 5 out of 6 Championship games are Garbage and negative and that most of the teams in it play not to lose. I would also hold up the Huddersfield v Wolves game as a perfect example of an HTFC team set out and picked to gain three points but getting arseholed because modern day coaches rarely get away with systems that don't take into account that you need a midfielder who is intelligent enough to sit deep when required and step out when it's possible. It's ok saying HTFC are not progressing but the statistic of 17 Championship clubs changing their manager over the course of the last 12 months speaks volumes about the state of this division...Panic stations all over the shop...Sack the manager...Buy our way out of it...Sack the board...Invest, invest, invest and invest... Supporters are voting with their feet because it's getting harder and harder to justify spending what is for most supporters a days wage or half a weeks benefit watching HTFC and they find it hard to stomach a footballer earning in 2 months what they earn in a year.. They are walking away because the powers that be have turned football matches into sterile events where you can't even show emotion without a warning or half of the stadium tutting profoundly. The business in football as become more important than the end product because the rungs in the football ladder are so far apart and the game we all fell in love with is heading for the scrap heap. HTFC are merely a victim of circumstances..They need to bite the bullet and be prepared to lose 2000 supporters to keep to their long term plan..That is the only way forward..Have a little confidence in what you've got planned and let it come to fruition.. Just tell the diehards who will support the club through thick and thin your plans, if they succeed the disenchanted will return.. Bro - They're walking away as the football is dross, the manager does not play to entertain, he plays not to lose. You give me Wolves, I give you Forest at home 442 won 3-0 best performance of the season, up and at them, high tempo, width, aggression, wanting to win. That's Huddersfield Town at its best. Wolves - we lost 4-1 but we gave it more of a go than half of the other games - Leeds, Reading etc - embarrassing attitudes. Season ticket holders not turning up - nothing to do with hard earned money. But I still don't have any idea whatsoever - What is our plan? When are we achieving this plan? How are we achieving this plan? Other than to achieve "the plan" we are prepared to lose 2000 fans. Is this he 5 year plan which has now disappeared - or another plan? Was this the plan we had this time last year when we were sailing aimlessly along - or another plan? Was this the plan last summer when we failed to address the two key signings we needed - centre half and centre forwards - or another plan? What is our plan?!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 23:39:05 GMT 1
I wouldn't worry about the silence from Dean, what's he meant to come out and say? It was pretty obvious the intention was to de-bulk the squad as much as possible and get through to the summer when we can further attend to the weaknesses. Last summers transfer business was pretty good overall, and similar dealings will improve us for next season.
Bro, I've enjoyed every match I've been to this season in some way. I've enjoyed some a LOT more than others but I haven't had one game where I've been bored rigid, and that is because I (along with many others) have taken a stance - literally - and done something to make the 2 hours on Saturday something I'm involved in, rather than just spectating on.
Dean and Nigel have a massive task on their hands, lets see how they handle it, the bottom line is the bottom line, and ours is trending downwards. As you say, we may have to take a hit on Season Card sales, and find other income streams to help cover the losses, but the core fan group will stick by the team and club.
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Post by ambryboy on Mar 4, 2015 23:58:56 GMT 1
I doubt that Nigel's business model is to lose season card holders as you want your cash before the summer and not in dribs and drabs as the season progresses. By making a bold statement of ambition perhaps with an exciting high quality signing (therefore not Miller or Edgar) fan might commit to another season but otherwise might hedge their bets and cheery pick matches - not good for either the top or bottom line.
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Post by bro600 on Mar 5, 2015 7:50:44 GMT 1
I would argue that 5 out of 6 Championship games are Garbage and negative and that most of the teams in it play not to lose. I would also hold up the Huddersfield v Wolves game as a perfect example of an HTFC team set out and picked to gain three points but getting arseholed because modern day coaches rarely get away with systems that don't take into account that you need a midfielder who is intelligent enough to sit deep when required and step out when it's possible. It's ok saying HTFC are not progressing but the statistic of 17 Championship clubs changing their manager over the course of the last 12 months speaks volumes about the state of this division...Panic stations all over the shop...Sack the manager...Buy our way out of it...Sack the board...Invest, invest, invest and invest... Supporters are voting with their feet because it's getting harder and harder to justify spending what is for most supporters a days wage or half a weeks benefit watching HTFC and they find it hard to stomach a footballer earning in 2 months what they earn in a year.. They are walking away because the powers that be have turned football matches into sterile events where you can't even show emotion without a warning or half of the stadium tutting profoundly. The business in football as become more important than the end product because the rungs in the football ladder are so far apart and the game we all fell in love with is heading for the scrap heap. HTFC are merely a victim of circumstances..They need to bite the bullet and be prepared to lose 2000 supporters to keep to their long term plan..That is the only way forward..Have a little confidence in what you've got planned and let it come to fruition.. Just tell the diehards who will support the club through thick and thin your plans, if they succeed the disenchanted will return.. Bro - They're walking away as the football is dross, the manager does not play to entertain, he plays not to lose. You give me Wolves, I give you Forest at home 442 won 3-0 best performance of the season, up and at them, high tempo, width, aggression, wanting to win. That's Huddersfield Town at its best. Wolves - we lost 4-1 but we gave it more of a go than half of the other games - Leeds, Reading etc - embarrassing attitudes. Season ticket holders not turning up - nothing to do with hard earned money. But I still don't have any idea whatsoever - What is our plan? When are we achieving this plan? How are we achieving this plan? Other than to achieve "the plan" we are prepared to lose 2000 fans. Is this he 5 year plan which has now disappeared - or another plan? Was this the plan we had this time last year when we were sailing aimlessly along - or another plan? Was this the plan last summer when we failed to address the two key signings we needed - centre half and centre forwards - or another plan? What is our plan?! The plan was to get HTFC out of the shit they were in when Dean Hoyle was watching from the Kilner bank against Southend some 8 years ago and in to The Championship. The plan for the last 3 years as been survival and we joined the hamster wheel world of changing managers because it actually brings short term gain and results now and again. The plan was to get HTFC where they belong on the football ladder and it as been achieved. If 2000 supporters want to stop going because they can;t stomach the fayre being offered then i believe HTFC should let them walk and don't do the usual knee-jerk reaction of changing the manager. Both Dean Hoyle and Chris Powell have hinted at trying to get HTFC playing a more entertaining style of football, you (specialun) have said that that is not Powells style and he can't deliver it? How do you know? Eddie Howe got the same stick at Burnley as Powell is now about the way Burnley were performing, hasn't Eddie Howe got a different philosophy at Bournemouth? Chris Powell took over when HTFC had played 6 games and were 4th bottom of the table with 4 points...29 league games later and 38 points later supporters like you start moaning about the way we are playing and the fact we haven't blooded youngsters..You tend to ignore the rejuvenation of Scannell and the success of Harry Bunn and instead promote the so-called negatives that probably delivered the necessary points required to avoid relegation. If i was Dean Hoyle and had to rely on DATM for my sound bytes i'd fuck off now and give the grim reapers on here what they truly deserve.. I'm glad this is down as a Fans site because a fair few don't even know what support is no more..
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Post by COWleySHED on Mar 6, 2015 18:31:16 GMT 1
The club can make it quite clear with a statement of intent. Dean and C.P need to show their intentions and thoughts re-developing the squad to supporters. Are we limping towards the end of the season with what we have mainly for the financial savings it will bring? Are we actively looking for the players that will improve the squad and would we sign them today if they were available? Are we hoping this squad will benefit from the experience they are gaining so therefore not signing anyone? Some posters on here would pick negatives out of any statement but there are a great majority who can stomach and would appreciate some long term plan details. Some posters would see positives out of anything - propaganda posting! Redeveloping the squad? What with Miller and Edgar. Not good enough - if we're saving money we shouldn't be wasting it on them. The manager is anti football, the football is garbage for 5 games in 6. He plays not to lose. Football is about winning. Last time I checked it was 3 points for a win. We'll probably end the season with less points than in the first season we had back in this division Truth is we're not progressing and show no signs of doing so and haven't done for over 12 months. Supporters are voting with their feet. We look stale. If we're looking to blook youngsters, then do so. We don't. 2 mins here, sitting on the bench is not blooding youngsters. I ask again - Who has Powell blooded? Poyet aside - genuine question. callum harriott who got the winner at ours 2 years back and Jordan cousins are 2 he blooded and maybe joe Piggott to lesser extent no way is he taking credit for bunn and I completely agree with you at no point does he seem keen on given our youngsters minutes
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