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Post by galpharm2400 on Mar 4, 2015 17:25:15 GMT 1
it is 'time' for Smithies to go but for totally different reasons than the op gives..
moving down South wont hurt his career any and will certainly cut down on the amount of personal abuse he has had to put up with recently..
playing behind and often in line with a sieve purporting to be a defence who most of the time just get in your way wont help his development anymore..
expect a reasonable offer and a deal for him in summer..
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Post by Marco4 on Mar 4, 2015 17:50:58 GMT 1
Where do they get their performance ratings from on that site? It has Smithies as the 23rd best keeper in the league and he has a negative score!! It also rated Butterfield as the 9th best player in the division. Other Town / ex Town in the top 50 include Richard Keogh 14th, Ollie Norwood 15th, Sean Morrison 24th, Jordan Rhodes 36th and Connor Coady 46th. Yeah, I wouldn't ever trust player ratings or anything of that type, but in terms of pure numbers, statistics can't lie. They can tell a story, or illustrate a point, but they can't lie.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Mar 4, 2015 18:07:09 GMT 1
having seen a good number of dreadful afternoons and evenings this season, we would still have lost a few of the games with 2 keepers in the goal..
lets hope someone makes a decent offer for him..
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Post by justanothertownfan on Mar 4, 2015 18:15:46 GMT 1
I don't agree with the "poor distribution" comments. Quite a few times this season I've seen Smithies trying to get the ball out quickly only to be faced with the backs of 10 shirts. I've seen Scanell give him the "not at me" hand signal a couple of times too. His kicking accuracy can be poor at times. Quite often the ball is kicked very close to the touch line. Overall we have a very solid keeper in Alex Smithies.
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Post by COWleySHED on Mar 4, 2015 18:17:59 GMT 1
he has been solid this season, just won bwf player of month surely we cant be cashing in on him he has just signed a new deal. for his age and experience I think we would be daft selling
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Mar 4, 2015 18:35:42 GMT 1
I'm not his biggest fan but think he's decent. Just watching the lowlights and they could of been 3 up in first ten mins if it wasn't for him.
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Post by Skint Terriers on Mar 4, 2015 18:36:04 GMT 1
This has to be a wind up.. Surely nobody is actually deluded enough to say it's time for him to go
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Post by EastCoastTerrier on Mar 4, 2015 18:49:32 GMT 1
Where do they get their performance ratings from on that site? It has Smithies as the 23rd best keeper in the league and he has a negative score!! It also rated Butterfield as the 9th best player in the division. Other Town / ex Town in the top 50 include Richard Keogh 14th, Ollie Norwood 15th, Sean Morrison 24th, Jordan Rhodes 36th and Connor Coady 46th. Yeah, I wouldn't ever trust player ratings or anything of that type, but in terms of pure numbers, statistics can't lie. They can tell a story, or illustrate a point, but they can't lie. They can't lie but they can be manipulated to support any opinion someone wants to make seem fact.
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Post by Marco4 on Mar 4, 2015 19:07:06 GMT 1
That was the story I was referring to. It's why I posted the link without comment.
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Post by teddytheterrier on Mar 4, 2015 19:11:34 GMT 1
Alex Smithies! He's one of our own!!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 21:12:29 GMT 1
And so the loving by the deluded goes on
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 21:40:15 GMT 1
And so the loving by the deluded goes on It's not a loving, it's stating what is seen. He won the 'Player's Player of the Year' award at the 2014 Annual Awards. What does that tell you about him? He organises belting after game parties for the team? Just got player of the month as well. He's just been offered and signed a contract extension by the club, wonder why? He's saved us more points than he's cost us this season, that's fact, not opinion. If the boo boys want to keep giving him the abuse and look over all these facts then that's up to them. People hang on to 2 year old mistakes and still beat Smithies with a stick for it. It's fucking embarrassing how much hate a local lad who's played over 250 games for his club gets. He's better than Alan Lee ever was yet Lee got worshipped by some. RANT OVER.
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Post by Captainslapper on Mar 4, 2015 21:43:31 GMT 1
This has to be a wind up.. Surely nobody is actually deluded enough to say it's time for him to go Never underestimate how clueless some people can be.
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Post by keithAM11532 on Mar 4, 2015 21:45:45 GMT 1
And so the loving by the deluded goes on It's not a loving, it's stating what is seen. He won the 'Player's Player of the Year' award at the 2014 Annual Awards. What does that tell you about him? He organises belting after game parties for the team? Just got player of the month as well. He's just been offered and signed a contract extension by the club, wonder why? He's saved us more points than he's cost us this season, that's fact, not opinion. If the boo boys want to keep giving him the abuse and look over all these facts then that's up to them. People hang on to 2 year old mistakes and still beat Smithies with a stick for it. It's fucking embarrassing how much hate a local lad who's played over 250 games for his club gets. He's better than Alan Lee ever was yet Lee got worshipped by some. RANT OVER. deluded is the person who only created his account 40 minutes ago and then types shite to get attention. Ignore him Ben
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 21:45:49 GMT 1
We could sign Peter Mellor from Pompey if we really want to give the keeper some stick...
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Post by Big Ern on Mar 4, 2015 21:47:44 GMT 1
What a joke, he is without a doubt one of the best keepers in this division. Some posters on here are thick as fuck. Why he is being made a scapegoat is completely baffling.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 21:47:54 GMT 1
It's not a loving, it's stating what is seen. He won the 'Player's Player of the Year' award at the 2014 Annual Awards. What does that tell you about him? He organises belting after game parties for the team? Just got player of the month as well. He's just been offered and signed a contract extension by the club, wonder why? He's saved us more points than he's cost us this season, that's fact, not opinion. If the boo boys want to keep giving him the abuse and look over all these facts then that's up to them. People hang on to 2 year old mistakes and still beat Smithies with a stick for it. It's fucking embarrassing how much hate a local lad who's played over 250 games for his club gets. He's better than Alan Lee ever was yet Lee got worshipped by some. RANT OVER. deluded is the person who only created his account 40 minutes ago and then types shite to get attention. Ignore him Ben I find it difficult to ignore Keith.... Really difficult.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 21:50:24 GMT 1
And so the loving by the deluded goes on It's not a loving, it's stating what is seen. He won the 'Player's Player of the Year' award at the 2014 Annual Awards. What does that tell you about him? He organises belting after game parties for the team? Last season player not this, Players dip, He has.Just got player of the month as well. Not hard with the team performancesHe's just been offered and signed a contract extension by the club, wonder why? Prob because the club if they sold him wouldn't be prepared to replace with quality as that costs, Mind you we do have the ginger Ninja to step in if needed.He's saved us more points than he's cost us this season, that's fact, not opinion. How is that fact? prove itIf the boo boys want to keep giving him the abuse and look over all these facts then that's up to them. People hang on to 2 year old mistakes and still beat Smithies with a stick for it. It's fucking embarrassing how much hate a local lad who's played over 250 games for his club gets. He's better than Alan Lee ever was yet Lee got worshipped by some. RANT OVER. Alan Lee was shit as is Smithies, He is one of the worse keepers in the division, Don't give me this shit about he's only as good as his defence, He is the last rear guard and as such is to defend that goal at all costs, He lets weak goals in, Credit yes a good shot stopper but as a overall keeper, Not good enough at this level.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 21:52:28 GMT 1
deluded is the person who only created his account 40 minutes ago and then types shite to get attention. Ignore him Ben I find it difficult to ignore Keith.... Really difficult. Keitha, Ben will you hold my hand Ben, Yes i will Keitha
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 21:53:55 GMT 1
It's not a loving, it's stating what is seen. He won the 'Player's Player of the Year' award at the 2014 Annual Awards. What does that tell you about him? He organises belting after game parties for the team? Last season player not this, Players dip, He has.Just got player of the month as well. Not hard with the team performancesHe's just been offered and signed a contract extension by the club, wonder why? Prob because the club if they sold him wouldn't be prepared to replace with quality as that costs, Mind you we do have the ginger Ninja to step in if needed.He's saved us more points than he's cost us this season, that's fact, not opinion. How is that fact? prove itIf the boo boys want to keep giving him the abuse and look over all these facts then that's up to them. People hang on to 2 year old mistakes and still beat Smithies with a stick for it. It's fucking embarrassing how much hate a local lad who's played over 250 games for his club gets. He's better than Alan Lee ever was yet Lee got worshipped by some. RANT OVER. Alan Lee was shit as is Smithies, He is one of the worse keepers in the division, Don't give me this shit about he's only as good as his defence, He is the last rear guard and as such is to defend that goal at all costs, He lets weak goals in, Credit yes a good shot stopper but as a overall keeper, Not good enough at this level.Imagine posting such BS.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 21:57:03 GMT 1
Classic response from someone who themselves talks shite and is deluded as fuck
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 22:03:03 GMT 1
Classic response from someone who themselves talks shite and is deluded as fuck It's not a classic response is it? Having seen what you posted in bold, there is no changing you. To say his form this season has slumped is fucking laughable. He's been outstanding this season. Name me 1 point in which he has cost us this season.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 22:13:16 GMT 1
Classic response from someone who themselves talks shite and is deluded as fuck It's not a classic response is it? Having seen what you posted in bold, there is no changing you. To say his form this season has slumped is fucking laughable. He's been outstanding this season. Name me 1 point in which he has cost us this season. The response i posted in bold was to highlight the difference between your comment and my response, That's all it was for no other reason, although i shouldn't have to explain that really. Smithies has had the odd game where he has been outstanding, I won't argue against that and he has pulled off some superb saves, I won't argue against that either but do i think he is a quality championship keeper no i do not, I think he is weak in alot of the games, Yes the defence is letting him down aswell, I see Smithies in the same way alot of people on here see Stead, For example, Stead is quality in some of the big games for Bradford in the cup, But alot on here don't see him as good enough over a season week in week out for us, Hence why they wished him well but were glad to see him go, I feel the same about Smithies, Excellent in the odd game but mainly shite over the season long haul.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 22:15:16 GMT 1
It's not a classic response is it? Having seen what you posted in bold, there is no changing you. To say his form this season has slumped is fucking laughable. He's been outstanding this season. Name me 1 point in which he has cost us this season. The response i posted in bold was to highlight the difference between your comment and my response, That's all it was for no other reason, although i shouldn't have to explain that really. Smithies has had the odd game where he has been outstanding, I won't argue against that and he has pulled off some superb saves, I won't argue against that either but do i think he is a quality championship keeper no i do not, I think he is weak in alot of the games, Yes the defence is letting him down aswell, I see Smithies in the same way alot of people on here see Stead, For example, Stead is quality in some of the big games for Bradford in the cup, But alot on here don't see him as good enough over a season week in week out for us, Hence why they wished him well but were glad to see him go, I feel the same about Smithies, Excellent in the odd game but mainly shite over the season long haul. So he hasn't cost us a point this season then?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 22:19:43 GMT 1
The response i posted in bold was to highlight the difference between your comment and my response, That's all it was for no other reason, although i shouldn't have to explain that really. Smithies has had the odd game where he has been outstanding, I won't argue against that and he has pulled off some superb saves, I won't argue against that either but do i think he is a quality championship keeper no i do not, I think he is weak in alot of the games, Yes the defence is letting him down aswell, I see Smithies in the same way alot of people on here see Stead, For example, Stead is quality in some of the big games for Bradford in the cup, But alot on here don't see him as good enough over a season week in week out for us, Hence why they wished him well but were glad to see him go, I feel the same about Smithies, Excellent in the odd game but mainly shite over the season long haul. So he hasn't cost us a point this season then? Yes Ben he has. though i did ask you to prove he saved us more points than he cost us, To be fair i think you should be careful though with this Smithies loving cos i think Keitha might get well Jel
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 22:23:27 GMT 1
So he hasn't cost us a point this season then? Yes Ben he has. though i did ask you to prove he saved us more points than he cost us, To be fair i think you should be careful though with this Smithies loving cos i think Keitha might get well Jel I have just proved it. He's cost us NO points this season and saved us points this season. Bournemouth away, earned us a point. Cardiff at home, earned us a point. Bolton at home, earned us 2 points. I can list more.
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Post by saintlyterrier on Mar 4, 2015 22:35:49 GMT 1
Perhaps the least informed post EVER on here. I presume allhtfcarentwe assumes that recent goals against are entirely down to the keeper. If you had seen the amazing performance Smithies gave at Bournemouth you wouldn't have started the thread.
On seeing the title of the thread I had assumed the writer thought so highly of Smithies that, for his sake, he suggested he should move elsewhere TO A HIGHER RATED TEAM to save his career. A comment like that would have carried some credibility, even though I would be the first to regret his departure.
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Post by Barbieterrier on Mar 4, 2015 22:39:27 GMT 1
So Smithies goes - who do we get in? That's got the same amount of commitment to Huddersfield despite being made scapegoat for poor performances week in and week out by fans? How many teams at our level have goalkeepers there that are on a damn sight more? Very quickly forgotten is what he did at Wembley for us. For me he's Huddersfield through and through and one if not the most commited player. Smithies is good.
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Post by Zopa64 on Mar 5, 2015 9:13:39 GMT 1
He is a very good keeper as proved by the amount of games he has played for his age.
People thought Murphy would get the number 1 spot but he is nowhere near as good as Alex.
There has been interest in Alex and he has been told if the bid is good enough he is free to leave in the summer, whether he leaves to probably spend a couple of years on the bench in the Prem will be up to him.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2015 15:20:41 GMT 1
Yes Ben he has. though i did ask you to prove he saved us more points than he cost us, To be fair i think you should be careful though with this Smithies loving cos i think Keitha might get well Jel I have just proved it. He's cost us NO points this season and saved us points this season. Bournemouth away, earned us a point. Cardiff at home, earned us a point. Bolton at home, earned us 2 points. I can list more. Come on then Ben lets have a reaction after Saturday cos i am still fuming, Smithies has cost us points, Every game we lose is down to the opposition putting the Ball in the back of our net, Smithies only Job is to Keep that ball out of our net end of, He has failed to do this on 60+ occasions this season and 9x in the last three games, Some muppet said to me on Sat yes but he made a good save in the first half, So what if he he still let another 2x goals in means nothing. For example Theo Robinson got laughed off the pitch at many a game for not been able to put the ball away, Many on here say Ward and Stead aren't good enough for us even though they continue to score goals for new clubs and do the job they are asked to do, So you will have to forgive me if i don't take any notice of you or think you are right because it's all bollox, Smithies is employed to keep that ball out of the net, The goals against backs up what i am saying regardless of how bad the defence is, Which i agree is shit, But so is he.
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