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Post by EastCoastTerrier on Mar 4, 2015 11:05:25 GMT 1
It seems on e of people's biggest concerns and reasons why people aren't coming to games or renewing STs is that they don't find the way the team are playing.
In 2013 I came back to England and saw my first town game for years and was pleasantly shocked to see them trying to pass the ball, work up their way up the field and create chances. I was used to seeing how many times the ball would go higher than the stand when I watched before so I thought we were on to something. Now every time the ball is passed backwards the whole crowd moans and get on to the players. Passing the ball backwards mite take 2 seconds and lead to a following forward pass rather than hoofing a ball forward with a high chance of losing the ball. So are people asking for a long ball game like when Warnock was in charge?
Personally i like it when we get the ball wide with our full backs getting round our wingers and taking on the full backs.
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Post by Morning Norwood on Mar 4, 2015 11:09:48 GMT 1
Some fans still need educating that if we have the ball the opposition dont.
The "gerrit forward" brigade want the ball lumped forward, but don't realise that by lumping it forward, the opposition have a health chance of getting back
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Post by roberttownblue on Mar 4, 2015 11:13:24 GMT 1
Some fans still need educating that if we have the ball the opposition dont. The "gerrit forward" brigade want the ball lumped forward, but don't realise that by lumping it forward, the opposition have a health chance of getting back This is going to confuse so many on here
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Post by bigfatmonkey on Mar 4, 2015 11:22:53 GMT 1
I think a lot of people do want us to hoof it forward as far and as fast as we can, judging by comments on here and at games. Personally, I just want us to see us string a few passes together and create chances playing through teams. Almost every other team I see, be it against Town or on TV, manages to do this at least a couple of times a game however whenever Town string a couple of passes together I get a feeling of shock. Basically, all I want is to not be surprised when we string a few coherent passes together in an attacking move.
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Post by Floyds on Mar 4, 2015 11:25:13 GMT 1
We couldn't/didn't manage more than two or three consecutive passes in Brentford's half once last night.
Even when we had the ball (which was rarely) we always seemed in danger of them breaking and scoring again.
Suppose it's entertaining for the fans of the teams we are playing.
Not so much for us, though.
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Post by EastCoastTerrier on Mar 4, 2015 14:04:32 GMT 1
I'm not saying the long ball is particularly bad I just think you have to play to your teams strengths. To me that's getting Scannell and Bunn in 1v1 situations and Butterfield on the ball in advanced positions. But I think keeping hold of the ball, even if it's passed back to the CB is better than asking Vaughan or Wells to get hold of a high ball with a CB up their arse.
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Post by jqhtfc on Mar 4, 2015 14:28:48 GMT 1
Just some decent football with an attacking mindset and high tempo, we have shown this at times this season and looked good but it's been few and far between as I've said in other threads we need to play to a style and bring players in to suit.
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Post by EastCoastTerrier on Mar 4, 2015 18:14:28 GMT 1
Just some decent football with an attacking mindset and high tempo, we have shown this at times this season and looked good but it's been few and far between as I've said in other threads we need to play to a style and bring players in to suit. What is an "attacking mindset", wanting possession of the ball as much as possible or wanting to get the ball forward as quickly as possible?
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Mar 4, 2015 18:25:05 GMT 1
What's with all these public vows of " I'm not renewing" all about ? Who gives a shiny shit ? Why do you feel the need to broadcast it on social media ? Is it something you are proud about ? I'm not buying a car this year.. Or any brisket from the butchers tomorrow... Think I'll start a thread on it
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Post by Skint Terriers on Mar 4, 2015 18:28:51 GMT 1
Just some decent football with an attacking mindset and high tempo, we have shown this at times this season and looked good but it's been few and far between as I've said in other threads we need to play to a style and bring players in to suit. You mean like when we were under Mark Robins?
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Post by galpharm2400 on Mar 4, 2015 18:38:17 GMT 1
a way to win games..with the squad you have..
the style and tactics are down to what you have available..
we currently lose more games than we win playing in the style powell has adopted..
we currently draw some games without ever looking to win them very much..
this is not entertaining or successful..(dependant on your view of success)..
if you count coming 3rd in a 3 horse race as success then its a different ball game for you..
if you spend your life being comfortable with simply being a wee bit better than those who are less successful than you then crack on but at some point it could easily bite you in the arse and you quickly become one of the 'looked down upon'..
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Post by EastCoastTerrier on Mar 4, 2015 18:43:40 GMT 1
a way to win games..with the squad you have.. the style and tactics are down to what you have available.. we currently lose more games than we win playing in the style powell has adopted.. we currently draw some games without ever looking to win them very much.. this is not entertaining or successful..(dependant on your view of success).. if you count coming 3rd in a 3 horse race as success then its a different ball game for you.. if you spend your life being comfortable with simply being a wee bit better than those who are less successful than you then crack on but at some point it could easily bite you in the arse and you quickly become one of the 'looked down upon'.. Inspirational
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Post by Marco4 on Mar 4, 2015 18:45:43 GMT 1
You Reep what you sow in footballing terms, I've always thought.
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Post by jqhtfc on Mar 4, 2015 18:57:08 GMT 1
Just some decent football with an attacking mindset and high tempo, we have shown this at times this season and looked good but it's been few and far between as I've said in other threads we need to play to a style and bring players in to suit. What is an "attacking mindset", wanting possession of the ball as much as possible or wanting to get the ball forward as quickly as possible? For me it's possession mate I'm not in the get it forward as quickly as we can brigade. If you have the ability to keep the ball you give yourself half a chance it's then about recruiting the right style of player to fit much like Swansea. It may take time but we aren't going anywhere for awhile anyway.
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Post by EastCoastTerrier on Mar 4, 2015 19:00:45 GMT 1
What is an "attacking mindset", wanting possession of the ball as much as possible or wanting to get the ball forward as quickly as possible? For me it's possession mate I'm not in the get it forward as quickly as we can brigade. If you have the ability to keep the ball you give yourself half a chance it's then about recruiting the right style of player to fit much like Swansea. It may take time but we aren't going anywhere for awhile anyway. Agreed. I get aggravated that the crowd sometimes don't support that and almost convince players into a long ball into the striker or channel which we commonly lose. The whole club needs to be on the same wavelength so we can support and encourage a certain type of play whether it is our own personal preference or not
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Post by jqhtfc on Mar 4, 2015 19:01:41 GMT 1
Just some decent football with an attacking mindset and high tempo, we have shown this at times this season and looked good but it's been few and far between as I've said in other threads we need to play to a style and bring players in to suit. You mean like when we were under Mark Robins? Thought at times we played some decent stuff under robins he trried to play it the right way he probably should have gone at the end of last season if he was going to go but the foundations were set, we tried to play football and younger players were getting a chance.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 19:02:56 GMT 1
Score more than the opposition and I go home entertained. Don't care how it is done, only the result matters. I can watch Motd for fancy footwork.
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Post by jqhtfc on Mar 4, 2015 19:09:59 GMT 1
For me it's possession mate I'm not in the get it forward as quickly as we can brigade. If you have the ability to keep the ball you give yourself half a chance it's then about recruiting the right style of player to fit much like Swansea. It may take time but we aren't going anywhere for awhile anyway. Agreed. I get aggravated that the crowd sometimes don't support that and almost convince players into a long ball into the striker or channel which we commonly lose. The whole club needs to be on the same wavelength so we can support and encourage a certain type of play whether it is our own personal preference or not Agree I keep harping on about Swansea but there's been others look at Bournemouth and Brentford both decided attacking, high tempo football was the way to go and it's working for them, Bournemouth last season played the same style under Howe and he's bought well this season and it may just pay off. We started like that under Hoyle under the first few years of Clark buying good talent and trying to play good football but he then bottled it.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Mar 4, 2015 19:28:18 GMT 1
get it forward as quick as you can but from further up the pitch to start with???
then its not a long gerrit forward, its a pass with some attacking intent and less distance to bollox it up or give the defenders less chance to intercept..
start your attacks in the wrong place with too many behind the ball and the speed is going to be impaired and the inevitable longer ball is going work less..
not sure you have to have a coaching badge for that one?
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Post by terracesider on Mar 4, 2015 20:43:53 GMT 1
"What is the entertaining style of play?"
Easy; one word answer:
Win!
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Post by kennyk2 on Mar 4, 2015 20:46:00 GMT 1
I've got to say that when we do play, the football is much better than a couple of years ago.
Then it was, first half - try and kick the ball into the golf driving range, followed by second half - try and kick the ball into B&Q!
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Post by EastCoastTerrier on Mar 6, 2015 17:54:17 GMT 1
"What is the entertaining style of play?" Easy; one word answer: Win! Sounds easy enough
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Post by terracesider on Mar 6, 2015 18:34:35 GMT 1
"What is the entertaining style of play?" Easy; one word answer: Win! Sounds easy enough Indeed yes; I have a half hour walk to the ground - going down: always optimistic (hoping for a good game and a Town win) Walking home after a win (any kind of win) takes very little effort Walking home after a performance like the cup game against Reading (or any other loss) and the walk up the hill feels like an Everest expedition As you may imagine, I'm one of those guys who'll take a scruffy 1 - 0 over a high scoring loss any day. Hoping for an easy stroll on the way home tomorrow.... UTT
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Post by Captainslapper on Mar 6, 2015 18:35:22 GMT 1
The football we play now is far more entertaining than the football we played in league 1. Theres the odd lousy game, but in general its much better.
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Post by jakeg on Mar 6, 2015 22:17:57 GMT 1
I do get frustrated with those that groan as soon as we don't lump the ball into the corners and take a couple of passes to retain possession. Having said that, the key to me seems to be to make the passing progressive and positive (as Im watching Bournemouth doing tonight). Sometimes under Robins we fell into a trap of simply passing across the back, not really to positively drag the opposition players out of position, but because no one seemed to want to take the positive forward options. I remember MK Dons coming to Town in League one a few years ago and I was simply bored rigid watching them play that day - square and backward passes all day. Each Bournemouth player tonight takes the ball and the first thought is what options are forward - that's what id like to see and we aren't talking about comparing us to Barcelona.
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Post by 3Pipe on Mar 6, 2015 22:22:03 GMT 1
Bournemouth got lucky with their second but you make your own luck sometimes in football. Most impressive tonight is their speed and intensity. You won't go far wrong if you play with the two.
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Post by ValleyBlue on Mar 6, 2015 22:22:30 GMT 1
Watch Bournemouth this eve...
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Post by 3Pipe on Mar 6, 2015 22:26:37 GMT 1
... and not backing off at 4-1 up.
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Post by 3Pipe on Mar 6, 2015 22:26:51 GMT 1
make that 5-1...
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Post by Porrohman on Mar 6, 2015 22:27:07 GMT 1
5 now
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