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Post by Chips Longhorn on Mar 21, 2015 19:04:12 GMT 1
We aren't going to get relegated... And we played well today.. Totally dominated the game... Sometimes it just doesn't run for you .... They got away with daylight robbery .. These type of games happen only once every couple of seasons .... Move on It wouldn't be an issue if we weren't in the midsts of a terrible run. Unfortunately we are and the defeat albeit a glorious one does not do anything other than push us further down the table, extend our winless run and put more people off from buying tickets. I'll be honest, I don't think a change in manager is needed but i think change IS needed somewhere. I'd have rather played shite and won but if we play well and get robbed then it's just something as a football fan you have to learn to live with or else it will just gnaw away at you and ruin your life
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Post by kennyk2 on Mar 21, 2015 19:05:17 GMT 1
POWELL OUT of the dug out to take penalty perhaps?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2015 19:07:41 GMT 1
Funny thing is, if Wells scores both penalties then we would have won 2-1 and this forum would be silent. Apart from the fact they scored 2 goals If we had of been 2-1 up do you think we'd have had nobody back in defense in the last minute?
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Post by ColchTerrier on Mar 21, 2015 19:08:22 GMT 1
If we do sack CP which I don't think DH will do who will you bring in? Lillis until the end of the season or permentently with someone from the outside. Jimmy Floyd. The media might go a bit easier on us Would actually be my choice! Would definatly command respect and I bet he has a bollocking in him. However frustrating it is Powell is going nowhere and today is Nahki's fault, not Powell's.
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Post by bootsywf4 on Mar 21, 2015 19:08:47 GMT 1
BBC site shows we had 13 on target to their 3. Powell responsible for our players missing penalties I assume? Definitely not - but I wouldn't have allowed Wells to have taken the second one though having missed one. 13 shots on target and no goals tells another story from the one you're trying to paint. One of a team void of confidence who don't know how to finish and have no composure in the final third. Players get some of the blame - but the lack of character, confidence and charisma in this team is shocking. It's like they simply don't care and are looking to coast into the offseason so they can see who is getting culled next. I would get rid of Powell tonight - and head into the offseason with some confidence with Mr Reliable Lillis in charge. Then for gods sake can someone give Hoyle the directions to Brentford so he can go sign Warburton before someone else grabs him. Well said..Powells got to go,Clueless tday,with his subs and team selection..Edgar a joke
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Post by Stiggy on Mar 21, 2015 19:10:17 GMT 1
Not at all. It was an embarrassing result and fans have every right to vent their frustration on here. I've not looked properly, but isn't that Fulhams first away win like 12 games?? Didn't Rotherham only have 1 away win all season before they played us? 1 home win in the last 2 months is simply not good enough! Powells a nice bloke but let's be honest he's not a good manager and I'm fast losing patience for the bloke.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2015 19:10:23 GMT 1
Apart from the fact they scored 2 goals If we had of been 2-1 up do you think we'd have had nobody back in defense in the last minute? No, we'd have retreated to our six yard box like we did against Norwich and conceded in the last minute still
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Post by Grandfather Berty of Cleck on Mar 21, 2015 19:10:39 GMT 1
BBC site shows we had 13 on target to their 3. Powell responsible for our players missing penalties I assume? Shouldn't have let Wells take the 2nd and shouldn't even have thought about bringing in Edgar. Thought Edgar played ok today, and not easy with the dick heads just waiting to pounce on any mistake.
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Post by patfield on Mar 21, 2015 19:12:59 GMT 1
The scoreline doesn't at all reflect the game today, we were dominant after the early goal. I thought it was just one of those games. If I were a Fulham fan id be buying a lottery ticket on the way home. My only worry is the defence again.
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Post by bootsywf4 on Mar 21, 2015 19:15:32 GMT 1
Powell to go for me. No this is not a knee-jerk reaction. First time I've called for it. I'll explain my reasoning, everyone has an opinion this is mine. The only consistent thing we have seen this year is our appealing defence. How many times have we conceded within 5/10mins of kick off? No motivation in team talks evidently, tactically unaware. Can't defend to save our lives, which is incredibly ironic to say how defensive minded Powell is. Both Rotherham games still haunt me. His substitutions are embarrassing. Genuinely embarrassing. Hogg and Smith off instead of Coady and Edgar? Hogg Butterfield and Scannell were our only good players today, Edgar is a joke and all Coady did was hoof the ball onto the centre backs head every time. Hogg still won man of the match too, sums it up. Subs made too late yet again (tired of saying this every week). He wants to bring his own players in? From the players he has brought in so far I don't think I have a lot of faith in him to bring in the correct players. And if you are one of his (eg Edgar) you become immune to being substituted. Do I blame him for our £15,000 a week striker being unable to score twice from 12 yards out and costing us the game? No. (Although Wells lost his head after the first miss can't believe they let him take the second). Do I blame him for yet another shoddy defensive display (we only needed to defend 2 situations and conceded from both!), poor tactics when losing the game (what is his plan B?), and a worse league position than we had under Robins? Yes, yes I do. Hiding again in his dugout today, got his mate to do all the shouting for him. If we stay up this year it won't be a 'good achievement', it will be down to pure luck for us that Wigan are absolutely awful. Can't see a win in the next 6 games, maybe win last game at Blackpool. Sorry but I can't see us progressing with Powell. This isn't based on today, this is based on his whole time with us. But losing at home to teams like Birmingham, Rotherham, Leeds, 10 men Fulham etc is not good enough. Sure we have had 3/4 good performances under him, but the majority have been pretty dire. Well said my friend
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Post by wasp on Mar 21, 2015 19:15:44 GMT 1
What difference does it make whether he went or not ? Because if you were there you'd know it wasn't Powells fault for us losing 2-0. The reaction to this defeat is fucking embarrassing. So is your language
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Post by RossoneriTerrier on Mar 21, 2015 19:15:47 GMT 1
All well and good saying Wells missed two penalties and Powell can't help that, but what he could help he simply didn't. It starts with Edgar, but that's another rant entirely. Then, being so reluctant to bring a winger on when the opponents had just gone down to ten men was baffling. We needed to exploit the extra man, and while we had lots of chances, it wasn't due to our immense tactical setup.
Yes, on another day we could have won, but the manager will get the blame when he doesn't do the controllable things right.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2015 19:16:36 GMT 1
Not at all. It was an embarrassing result and fans have every right to vent their frustration on here. I've not looked properly, but isn't that Fulhams first away win like 12 games?? Didn't Rotherham only have 1 away win all season before they played us? 1 home win in the last 2 months is simply not good enough! Powells a nice bloke but let's be honest he's not a good manager and I'm fast losing patience for the bloke. 1. Did you go to the game? 2. Have you seen the stats from the game? We haven't battered a team like that since League 1. Quite how anybody has the ignorance to call for Powell to be sacked after that defeat is beyond me. Powell cannot be held responsible for that defeat, no way.
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Post by Skint Terriers on Mar 21, 2015 19:16:46 GMT 1
I'm not the biggest Powell fan but I don't understand how you can say he was negative today? We're were on the attack the whole game
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Post by yoy on Mar 21, 2015 19:20:00 GMT 1
When Powell came in we were looking near certainties for the drop. Bad run of form admittedly but in my view getting rid right now would be entirely the wrong thing.
Just shows how small the margins are. Bit more luck and it would have been six points from the last two. I'm in no doubt that our luck will turn.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2015 19:21:01 GMT 1
I'm not the biggest Powell fan but I don't understand how you can say he was negative today? We're were on the attack the whole game The first half I felt we lacked tempo, but we ABSOLUTELY dominated. The 2nd half was ridiculous. Wave after wave of attack. I'm more shocked by this thread than the fact we didn't get out of the game!!
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Post by wasp on Mar 21, 2015 19:21:45 GMT 1
Not at all. It was an embarrassing result and fans have every right to vent their frustration on here. I've not looked properly, but isn't that Fulhams first away win like 12 games?? Didn't Rotherham only have 1 away win all season before they played us? 1 home win in the last 2 months is simply not good enough! Powells a nice bloke but let's be honest he's not a good manager and I'm fast losing patience for the bloke. 1. Did you go to the game? 2. Have you seen the stats from the game? We haven't battered a team like that since League 1. Quite how anybody has the ignorance to call for Powell to be sacked after that defeat is beyond me. Powell cannot be held responsible for that defeat, no way. The only stats needed to be seen are the goals
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Post by terrierpark on Mar 21, 2015 19:22:35 GMT 1
some of you would defend the indefensible!
If we want to achieve anything we need to be able to DEFEND. The other night v norwich we clear ballout of defense straight to them instead of kicking it out row z by halfway, they got possession and scored. ASleep at a corner today. Hudson has to go with wallace for me two ctre backs and a left back required. Minor tweaking my arse ad if powell cant see it he can go too for me!
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Post by reversekarmaa on Mar 21, 2015 19:23:04 GMT 1
How can the Powell Apologists defend him after today?
We dominated the game? Did we? Apart from 2 pens did we have any clear chances? Any 1 on 1's? NO just awful hoofball with a couple of hopeful longshots.
Get Mark Lillis in till the end of the season and Mark Warburton on a pre-contract.
We will not progress with Powell in charge.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Mar 21, 2015 19:23:50 GMT 1
I don't think he should go, give him next season and bring some players in. I'm very angry to our players and a certain striker today.
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Post by ringdisco on Mar 21, 2015 19:24:20 GMT 1
Not at all. It was an embarrassing result and fans have every right to vent their frustration on here. I've not looked properly, but isn't that Fulhams first away win like 12 games?? Didn't Rotherham only have 1 away win all season before they played us? 1 home win in the last 2 months is simply not good enough! Powells a nice bloke but let's be honest he's not a good manager and I'm fast losing patience for the bloke. 1. Did you go to the game? 2. Have you seen the stats from the game? We haven't battered a team like that since League 1. Quite how anybody has the ignorance to call for Powell to be sacked after that defeat is beyond me. Powell cannot be held responsible for that defeat, no way. He hasn't sorted the defence. It's more or less become worse under him.
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Post by wasp on Mar 21, 2015 19:25:24 GMT 1
Get Lilliis in!!!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2015 19:25:38 GMT 1
How can the Powell Apologists defend him after today? We dominated the game? Did we? Apart from 2 pens did we have any clear chances? Any 1 on 1's? NO just awful hoofball with a couple of hopeful longshots. Get Mark Lillis in till the end of the season and Mark Warburton on a pre-contract. We will not progress with Powell in charge. We had a goalbound shot handled off the line, and a top drawer, top corner save from there keeper for starters. I think the stats show 14 shots on target for us.
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Post by ringdisco on Mar 21, 2015 19:25:47 GMT 1
How can the Powell Apologists defend him after today? We dominated the game? Did we? Apart from 2 pens did we have any clear chances? Any 1 on 1's? NO just awful hoofball with a couple of hopeful longshots. Get Mark Lillis in till the end of the season and Mark Warburton on a pre-contract. We will not progress with Powell in charge. No chance will we get Warburton. Probably to QPR. Won't sack Powell either, so doesn't matter.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2015 19:26:55 GMT 1
I went, cracking atmosphere in the 2nd half in the NSL.
While I agree that Tactically there was very little wrong today, and that sometimes it just doesn't happen for you, I have to admit that I do wonder just what is Powell saying to them before the game to determine that we aren't switched on after only 90 seconds to defend a very easily defendable corner.
I'm by no means in the 'Powell out' camp, and I definitely think he should be given time to build his own squad, but the same defensive fuck ups for the past seven or eight games now are starting to piss me off somewhat.
Either way there's no way you could accuse Powell of being negative today, it just so happens that what little we did get wrong, resulted in two goals for them.
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Post by Morning Norwood on Mar 21, 2015 19:36:35 GMT 1
All these folk wanting Powell out are missing the big question!
What happened in the summer that we've never really recovered from?
Folk are blaming Powell for every single thing at the moment, but something went wrong pre season!
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Post by yoy on Mar 21, 2015 19:37:21 GMT 1
How can the Powell Apologists defend him after today? We dominated the game? Did we? Apart from 2 pens did we have any clear chances? Any 1 on 1's? NO just awful hoofball with a couple of hopeful longshots. Get Mark Lillis in till the end of the season and Mark Warburton on a pre-contract. We will not progress with Powell in charge. Fair few goalmouth scrambles as well as hitting the woodwork on two occasions other than the penalty. Fair few saves from their keeper too. Unsure how you can suggest the penalties were the only chances... The reaction at the death from the Fulham players suggests to me that they'd disagree with you too.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2015 19:38:33 GMT 1
That's a very very poor result at home they hadn't won in ten away, but beat us 2-0. Wells is deffo very much a big part of the blame. No bottle. Can't even score one of two pens. No bottle would have been not to take the 2nd one.
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Post by ACW on Mar 21, 2015 19:39:08 GMT 1
Not at all. It was an embarrassing result and fans have every right to vent their frustration on here. I've not looked properly, but isn't that Fulhams first away win like 12 games?? Didn't Rotherham only have 1 away win all season before they played us? 1 home win in the last 2 months is simply not good enough! Powells a nice bloke but let's be honest he's not a good manager and I'm fast losing patience for the bloke. 1. Did you go to the game? 2. Have you seen the stats from the game? We haven't battered a team like that since League 1. Quite how anybody has the ignorance to call for Powell to be sacked after that defeat is beyond me. Powell cannot be held responsible for that defeat, no way. I agree that we were on top for most of the game, but I didn't think we played particularly well. We had a good spell of 15 mins just before half-time, but up until that point we'd been relying on hopeful high balls and created little. We finally managed to get the ball down and pass it just before half-time and their keeper made a few good saves. In the second half, once they had a man sent off I thought we played with a lack of thought and quality. Against 10 men you need to make the pitch wide and make the opposition run. Our passing was slow and laborious and we often played narrow - giving the weak Fulham defence an easier time than they should have. Too many hopeful high balls and not enough quick, incisive passing against a poor side who were there for the taking. Don't get me wrong, we created enough chances to have won comfortably, but I think most teams would create chances against one of the poorest sides I've seen all season. As I say, I thought much of our approach play was ponderous and one-dimensional, and when we did work good positions our finishing was generally poor. I don't blame Powell for the defeat, but I thought his subbing of Hogg was strange when Coady was having a bit of a 'mare. I don't think Powell was in anyway defensive in his approach, but we did lack quality. Even with the two missed penalties we should have had enough to score against that lot. They were very poor, but we lacked the guile and finishing to get a result.
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Post by thomo on Mar 21, 2015 19:39:35 GMT 1
What a an absolutely pathetic diabolical result. A non league team would have beaten Fulham. Don't give me we played well, our final balls into the box our style of play everything is shocking and mostly dull. We are the worst we've been since we returned to the championship. Unless there's a huge turnaround in results which sees us win at least 4 of our remaining games, Powell absolutely must go.
If not I can see a situation where we are looking for a new manager in August.
Can't help but think he's not the right man to take us into the summer and undertake the rebuilding of the first team. He seems tactically inept in most situations
Change must also occur if the gap to relegation lessens after either of our next two games.
What a miserable season it has been
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