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Post by jimmythebulldog on Mar 23, 2015 18:27:39 GMT 1
We've been desperately unlucky not to take 6 points from two teams who were in the Premiership last year. They've been two dramatic, entertaining games of football. 'Powell out'? Some people have neither perspective nor loyalty. Or some, from day 1, knew he'd have us where he last had Charlton - because that's his level. You are grasping at straws by claiming we should be happy with the performance against Wigan - who yes were in the Prem last year but have shown all season long as well as on Saturday that they're dog shit. My perspective comes from our league position. My loyalty goes to the club not a manager who's been with us just over 12 months with no previous ties to HTFC and is showing nothing worthy of loyalty except wearing a flat cap.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2015 18:32:22 GMT 1
We've been desperately unlucky not to take 6 points from two teams who were in the Premiership last year. They've been two dramatic, entertaining games of football. 'Powell out'? Some people have neither perspective nor loyalty. Or some, from day 1, knew he'd have us where he last had Charlton - because that's his level. You are grasping at straws by claiming we should be happy with the performance against Wigan - who yes were in the Prem last year but have shown all season long as well as on Saturday that they're dog shit. My perspective comes from our league position. My loyalty goes to the club not a manager who's been with us just over 12 months with no previous ties to HTFC and is showing nothing worthy of loyalty except wearing a flat cap. Powell hasn't been with us just over 12 months. Give the bloke a frigging chance.
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Post by Captainslapper on Mar 23, 2015 18:34:02 GMT 1
We've been desperately unlucky not to take 6 points from two teams who were in the Premiership last year. They've been two dramatic, entertaining games of football. 'Powell out'? Some people have neither perspective nor loyalty. Or some, from day 1, knew he'd have us where he last had Charlton - because that's his level. You are grasping at straws by claiming we should be happy with the performance against Wigan - who yes were in the Prem last year but have shown all season long as well as on Saturday that they're dog shit. My perspective comes from our league position. My loyalty goes to the club not a manager who's been with us just over 12 months with no previous ties to HTFC and is showing nothing worthy of loyalty except wearing a flat cap. So less than 4 weeks ago, when we were 12th, Im guessing you must have been delighted with powell and thought he was doing a tremendous job? Now hes not good enough and needs sacking? How can a manager go from being more than good enough, to obviously not good enough in less than 4 weeks?
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Post by chinaski on Mar 23, 2015 18:36:43 GMT 1
I bought a can of Linx deodorant last year, sprayed it all over me pits, went out and didn't have a single fit bird wanting to shag me! I can't believe I fell for their patter and certainly won't be falling for it again. Haven't used it since. Of course if Linx Ltd can arrange for a fit bird to want to to shag me, i will continue using the deodorant. Shouldn't have bought the fake shit then, you could have been balls deep by 10pm.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2015 18:37:44 GMT 1
We've been desperately unlucky not to take 6 points from two teams who were in the Premiership last year. They've been two dramatic, entertaining games of football. 'Powell out'? Some people have neither perspective nor loyalty. Or some, from day 1, knew he'd have us where he last had Charlton - because that's his level. You are grasping at straws by claiming we should be happy with the performance against Wigan - who yes were in the Prem last year but have shown all season long as well as on Saturday that they're dog shit. My perspective comes from our league position. My loyalty goes to the club not a manager who's been with us just over 12 months with no previous ties to HTFC and is showing nothing worthy of loyalty except wearing a flat cap. 7 months actually. Somebody been editing wiki? In March 2015, Huddersfield Town supporters voiced concerns about Powell's managerial capabilities, and many suggested that Powell should be replaced with Danny Wilson LINK
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Post by teddytheterrier on Mar 23, 2015 18:41:19 GMT 1
Got to say I hate the excuse well they used to be in the premiership, it's so cliché! Reading, Fulham, Wigan and Blackpool (all below us) have been in the premiership recently, so fucking what?? If that's the excuse to why we are shit then why bother turning up! I bet when Bournemouth and Brentford lose to an ex premiership team they don't say we lost to an ex premier league team, it was one of those days! Course they don't because they have players and managers that are hungry to win things and bring success to the respective clubs!
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Post by jimmythebulldog on Mar 23, 2015 18:55:12 GMT 1
Or some, from day 1, knew he'd have us where he last had Charlton - because that's his level. You are grasping at straws by claiming we should be happy with the performance against Wigan - who yes were in the Prem last year but have shown all season long as well as on Saturday that they're dog shit. My perspective comes from our league position. My loyalty goes to the club not a manager who's been with us just over 12 months with no previous ties to HTFC and is showing nothing worthy of loyalty except wearing a flat cap. So less than 4 weeks ago, when we were 12th, Im guessing you must have been delighted with powell and thought he was doing a tremendous job? Now hes not good enough and needs sacking? How can a manager go from being more than good enough, to obviously not good enough in less than 4 weeks? I always like to be honest and give my true opinion. When he was appointed I was hugely disappointed and was a critic at the time. When we were sitting 12th I actually started a post with an apology for my earlier criticism as I seemed to have been proven wrong. And honestly I didnt press 'post' - something stopped me, something told me if I apologized for my earlier criticism I would be jumping the gun and I needed to see the season play out a bit more. And thats happened - Powell took Charlton up, did fantastic. Got them in their first season to a really strong finish - great job. But I cant help believe that a lot of that was down to passion and chest thumping at a club he was a hero. And at HTFC thats just not the same situation and he's being found out - just like he was when the tidal of enthusiasm at Charlton died away. Just my opinion - no reason to be upset by my ramblings. If we stick with Powell we won't scrape next season like this season, we'll go down - it's not steady progress it seems to me to be a steady decline. But happy to be proved wrong in 12 months - don't think I will but hey ho. And you're all right on the timeline - I got it wrong of course, no big issue.
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Post by tockyterrier on Mar 23, 2015 20:37:04 GMT 1
I think you will find that the progress referred to is that we are seeing the same level as even we got in to this league but have reduced losses by around £3 a year in the process. Not the sexy progress we would all like, but probably a necessary step to enable the team to gradually imorove their league position. Consider where Fulham and Wigan were playing their football for the past 3 seasons. We have progressed more than they have. Sent from my HTC One mini 2 using proboards I take it you mean three million and not three pound? Fulham and Wigan are on a downward spiral, mainly due to Al Fayed and Whelen respectively losing interest. However it is not comparing our progress to other teams that matters. Balancing the books is fine, but football will always be about results on the field. Having to rely on the bottom three not catching up is a dangerous game, which eventually will prove to be Town's downfall. Of course, Hoyle is trying to get Town on footing so that when he had to leave, or loses interest ( let's face it very likely to happen with all the carping that goes on) that the sane downward spiral does not happen to us. Of course, we could also judge progress in that whilst we have stayed fairly static in league position, the money spent and quality of players we are competing against has increased. 4 years ago we were not much more than on a par with were Bradford are now. Sent from my HTC One mini 2 using proboards
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Post by swam4mwg on Mar 23, 2015 21:48:21 GMT 1
I bought a can of Linx deodorant last year, sprayed it all over me pits, went out and didn't have a single fit bird wanting to shag me! I can't believe I fell for their patter and certainly won't be falling for it again. Haven't used it since. Of course if Linx Ltd can arrange for a fit bird to want to to shag me, i will continue using the deodorant. Shouldn't have bought the fake shit then, you could have been balls deep by 10pm. Has anyone ever had any success with Lynx? I think its just a myth
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Post by swam4mwg on Mar 23, 2015 21:51:43 GMT 1
I take it you mean three million and not three pound? Fulham and Wigan are on a downward spiral, mainly due to Al Fayed and Whelen respectively losing interest. However it is not comparing our progress to other teams that matters. Balancing the books is fine, but football will always be about results on the field. Having to rely on the bottom three not catching up is a dangerous game, which eventually will prove to be Town's downfall. Of course, Hoyle is trying to get Town on footing so that when he had to leave, or loses interest ( let's face it very likely to happen with all the carping that goes on) that the sane downward spiral does not happen to us. Of course, we could also judge progress in that whilst we have stayed fairly static in league position, the money spent and quality of players we are competing against has increased. 4 years ago we were not much more than on a par with were Bradford are now. Sent from my HTC One mini 2 using proboards I agree with you that he will eventually get bored with it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2015 21:56:21 GMT 1
I take it you mean three million and not three pound? Fulham and Wigan are on a downward spiral, mainly due to Al Fayed and Whelen respectively losing interest. However it is not comparing our progress to other teams that matters. Balancing the books is fine, but football will always be about results on the field. Having to rely on the bottom three not catching up is a dangerous game, which eventually will prove to be Town's downfall. Of course, Hoyle is trying to get Town on footing so that when he had to leave, or loses interest ( let's face it very likely to happen with all the carping that goes on) that the sane downward spiral does not happen to us. Of course, we could also judge progress in that whilst we have stayed fairly static in league position, the money spent and quality of players we are competing against has increased. 4 years ago we were not much more than on a par with were Bradford are now. Sent from my HTC One mini 2 using proboards You echo my own sentiments. Dean won't be around forever. I believe that Deans mission is to secure/prove our long term future. He knows he hasn't got the clout to compete in the Prem and he has never hidden that fact, but Dean loves this club from the heart. He's trying to create a self sustaining entity through the academy. Nurture, compete, sell for profit, repeat. It hasn't quite happened yet but I have faith in his vision. We CAN do this, but Lady Luck and several other factors need to align neatly. Whilst all this plays out, I shall visit my hometown football club every home game, that I cherish every bit as much as Dean.
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Post by specialun on Mar 23, 2015 22:03:57 GMT 1
Is he still here?
There was someone in the technical area on Saturday and there wasn't anyone asleep against the post / trying to impersonate Wadsworth (not just his results record) - Assumed it was a steward!
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Post by ram on Mar 24, 2015 11:44:18 GMT 1
I fell for Dean Hoyle,s patter and bought an early bird SC last March..I then went to see the Bournemouth game,Robbins walked and the Owner took weeks to appoint a Manager who,s name had been bandied about on here,to my dismay he was the chosen one..I haven,t been to another game all season,because of this,so I wasted over £200,the current state of affairs at the club with a manager who cannot get results,and signs dummies,means I won,t be falling for it again...Of course if the owner gets rid and appoints someone with credentials {other than "yes Mr.Hoyle"}I would probably get another SC.... Feck me, you didn't like the managerial appointment so haven't been to a game since despite being a season ticket holder? I've read some things on this forum in my time but that has to be the worst. Forgot to mention that i bought a static caravan by the sea just after 1st match spent rest of the year up to november there..sorry if this does not meet with your approval. I,ll do what I want with my brass,the in and out form since the start of the season means I have more useful things to do with my time..so up yours!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2015 15:00:36 GMT 1
If Hoyle doesn't sack Powell now you really have to question why Why? he wont and shoudnt
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Post by teddytheterrier on Mar 24, 2015 15:15:35 GMT 1
Is he still here? There was someone in the technical area on Saturday and there wasn't anyone asleep against the post / trying to impersonate Wadsworth (not just his results record) - Assumed it was a steward! He's going same way as Wadsworth, totally agree way he slumps around in the dugout, dire football, and piss poor results to match it!
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Post by colnevalleyblue on Mar 24, 2015 17:36:54 GMT 1
I seem to recall most Town fans wanting us to 'go and get' Malky Mackay......Worked for Wigan!
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Post by jqhtfc on Mar 24, 2015 18:01:26 GMT 1
He won't your correct but if say we don't pick up another win till the end of season which given our fixtures could happen then he would be well within his rights to. after a decent start things have gone rapidly down hill for me and he's not impressed at all no style to the football for the most part it's very kick and rush and I just can't see this bloke taking us forward but I obvoiusly hope I'm wrong.
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Post by ringdisco on Mar 25, 2015 2:22:45 GMT 1
I seem to recall most Town fans wanting us to 'go and get' Malky Mackay......Worked for Wigan! I think you're mistaken.
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Post by royrace on Mar 25, 2015 8:57:52 GMT 1
He won't your correct but if say we don't pick up another win till the end of season which given our fixtures could happen then he would be well within his rights to. after a decent start things have gone rapidly down hill for me and he's not impressed at all no style to the football for the most part it's very kick and rush and I just can't see this bloke taking us forward but I obvoiusly hope I'm wrong. Nobody should be surprised at the style of football, its what you get with Powell. Was a strange choice imo particularly after all the bull shit spoken by Ross Wilson about our footballing ethos when Robins was appointed but we are where we are. Dean isn't going to sack him yet, he deserves more time. Sent from my GT-I9505 using proboards
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2015 12:57:26 GMT 1
Lets be honest here, we've had four Managers in quick succession with Clark, Grayson, Robins and now Powell, who have all tried to buy into Hoyle's "self-sustaining" vision and all have failed to make it work.
Could it be that the manager is not the real problem regarding our current plight, particularly since one of them took us on a record breaking 43 match unbeaten run and another is currently steering PNE to promotion, following similar successes he had with Blackpool & Leeds.
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Post by Venezuelan Pete on Mar 25, 2015 13:02:02 GMT 1
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Post by ringdisco on Mar 25, 2015 13:09:23 GMT 1
I stand corrected, and reluctantly acknowledge most on here are either mentally challenged or constantly drunk.
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Post by colnevalleyblue on Mar 25, 2015 13:11:49 GMT 1
Interesting that number 2 and 3 were appointed new jobs in this Division but are only a massive one point ahead of Town. This is despite both having much bigger squads, better budgets and profiles then ourselves.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2015 13:22:18 GMT 1
thank god i voted for warnock. panicked for a mo then.
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Post by Torquayterrier on Mar 25, 2015 13:52:32 GMT 1
Could it be that the manager is not the real problem regarding our current plight, particularly since one of them took us on a record breaking 43 match unbeaten run and another is currently steering PNE to promotion, following similar successes he had with Blackpool & Leeds. You seem to be conveniently ignoring that Clark almost got Birmingham relegated despite inheriting a reasonable squad and is currently in charge of a team that he can't get off the bottom of the championship. Robins has got Scunthorpe at 18th in the league below ours. Agree Grayson is doing a good job at PNE but he just looked like he'd lost interest with us. Doubt that was all down to our chairman.
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Post by ACW on Mar 25, 2015 14:19:07 GMT 1
Shouldn't have bought the fake shit then, you could have been balls deep by 10pm. Has anyone ever had any success with Lynx? I think its just a myth I don't think it matters what deodorant you put on if you're an ugly fucker!
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Post by ACW on Mar 25, 2015 14:21:31 GMT 1
Of course, Hoyle is trying to get Town on footing so that when he had to leave, or loses interest ( let's face it very likely to happen with all the carping that goes on) that the sane downward spiral does not happen to us. Of course, we could also judge progress in that whilst we have stayed fairly static in league position, the money spent and quality of players we are competing against has increased. 4 years ago we were not much more than on a par with were Bradford are now. Sent from my HTC One mini 2 using proboards You echo my own sentiments. Dean won't be around forever. I believe that Deans mission is to secure/prove our long term future. He knows he hasn't got the clout to compete in the Prem and he has never hidden that fact, but Dean loves this club from the heart. He's trying to create a self sustaining entity through the academy. Nurture, compete, sell for profit, repeat. It hasn't quite happened yet but I have faith in his vision. We CAN do this, but Lady Luck and several other factors need to align neatly. Whilst all this plays out, I shall visit my hometown football club every home game, that I cherish every bit as much as Dean. Well said.
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Post by Marco4 on Mar 25, 2015 14:25:44 GMT 1
We've been desperately unlucky not to take 6 points from two teams who were in the Premiership last year. They've been two dramatic, entertaining games of football. 'Powell out'? Some people have neither perspective nor loyalty. Or some, from day 1, knew he'd have us where he last had Charlton - because that's his level. You are grasping at straws by claiming we should be happy with the performance against Wigan - who yes were in the Prem last year but have shown all season long as well as on Saturday that they're dog shit. My perspective comes from our league position. My loyalty goes to the club not a manager who's been with us just over 12 months with no previous ties to HTFC and is showing nothing worthy of loyalty except wearing a flat cap. He wore a flat cap before he joined, as I recall.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2015 15:16:11 GMT 1
Or some, from day 1, knew he'd have us where he last had Charlton - because that's his level. You are grasping at straws by claiming we should be happy with the performance against Wigan - who yes were in the Prem last year but have shown all season long as well as on Saturday that they're dog shit. My perspective comes from our league position. My loyalty goes to the club not a manager who's been with us just over 12 months with no previous ties to HTFC and is showing nothing worthy of loyalty except wearing a flat cap. He wore a flat cap before he joined, as I recall. Not only that but... chrispowellsflatcap.com
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2015 17:47:08 GMT 1
I fell for Dean Hoyle,s patter and bought an early bird SC last March..I then went to see the Bournemouth game,Robbins walked and the Owner took weeks to appoint a Manager who,s name had been bandied about on here,to my dismay he was the chosen one..I haven,t been to another game all season,because of this,so I wasted over £200,the current state of affairs at the club with a manager who cannot get results,and signs dummies,means I won,t be falling for it again...Of course if the owner gets rid and appoints someone with credentials {other than "yes Mr.Hoyle"}I would probably get another SC.... Bought a season card yet? This thread needs putting in the 'DATM gold' archive.
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