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Post by morrisraspass on Mar 28, 2015 20:17:23 GMT 1
Brilliant story in the Guardian about Sol and his approach and why he perhaps isn't being given the coaching opportunities in the game that he feels he deserves. I don't think its race so much as him being an enormous penis: Immodest Campbell lets his ego do the talking A few weeks back, the sports minister, Helen Grant, arranged a summit at Whitehall to discuss why there are so few black managers and coaches in the game. Senior figures from the Football Association were there, along with the Premier League, the Professional Footballers’ Association and the Football League. There were guests from Kick It Out and Show Racism the Red Card and Sol Campbell also received an invitation, as an ex-England player who is frustrated, understandably, by the lack of opportunities. What Campbell does not appear to realise, perhaps, is that the best way to get a point across is without ego or too much self-esteem. On this occasion he wanted the FA’s technical director, Dan Ashworth, to explain why Gary Neville had been fast-tracked through the system to become one of Roy Hodgson’s assistants with the England team. Ashworth started talking about the favourable impression Neville had made on Hodgson and the players and was running through the processes that were involved when Campbell put out his hand to interrupt him. This is when things started to get a little strange. “But I am Sol Campbell.” As you might imagine, that isn’t a particularly easy sentence to come back from. Ashworth did his best to continue because, well, what else could he do? But it is fair to say the entire room had been engulfed in awkwardness and when Ashworth stopped talking there was another moment. Campbell, hand out, ended the conversation in the same way he had started it. “But I am Sol Campbell.” He was correct. But whether he gets an invitation the next time there is one of these discussions is not entirely clear.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Mar 28, 2015 20:21:29 GMT 1
Forget his colour .. he's just a tool
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2015 20:23:04 GMT 1
Had a lot of time for him in his playing days, since his retirement I've got absolute no time for him what so ever.
He claimed if he was white he would have been England captain, what he failed to add was that David Beckham was captain during the vast majority of his Englabd career. Gary Neville was capped more than Sol and he was never captain.
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Post by turbo2 on Mar 28, 2015 20:59:15 GMT 1
I thought sol was a great player. But since retirement I've realised he's a bitter and twisted tosser. His claim that he would have England captain for ten years if he'd been White is laughable. He got 73 caps. That alone would have stopped him being captain for ten years. Never mind the fact that he had many other great leaders in front of him.
He was always quiet and withdrawn yet is now bizarrely an outspoken dick with the onset of political correctness
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Mar 28, 2015 20:59:39 GMT 1
He was an absolute colossus for England, used to love watching him play. Around the turn of the millennium he was one of the best centre backs in the world.
Shame he's also a colossal prick.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2015 21:16:20 GMT 1
The programme a few weeks back showed exactly why Chris Powell is a football manager and Sol Campbell isn't.
One of them could communicate and command interest, and the other couldn't.
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Post by tockyterrier on Mar 28, 2015 21:35:10 GMT 1
Less Ferdinand was on TV the other week bemoaning the fact that " only Bournemouth " had approached him about the idea of managing our coaching them since he'd stopped paying and it was no surprise that the owner at the time "wasn't white".
I couldn't help wondering: A) why he didn't accept ( were they not big enough for him ? ) B) why he expected clubs to come after him, without him applying for the jobs?
Same with Sol, what gas he ever fine to suggest that he could be a good manager apart from come across as an annoying, self obsessed prick?
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Post by upthetown on Mar 28, 2015 21:36:24 GMT 1
The programme a few weeks back showed exactly why Chris Powell is a football manager and Sol Campbell isn't. One of them could communicate and command interest, and the other couldn't. But I am Sol Campbell!
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Post by space hardware on Mar 28, 2015 21:55:57 GMT 1
Top player in his time.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2015 22:00:41 GMT 1
A prize twat. Let's remember he quit Arsenal at half time vs West Ham. He then wound up at Notts County, gave it all the talk, then quit there after a couple of weeks.
He is clearly some kind of deluded narcissist. He was on the Daily Politics a while back bemoaning Labour's proposed Mansion Tax...whilst having a property on the market for £25m.
A shame as he was a v good player. It probably still haunts him that he had 2 'winners' wrongly disallowed on England duty in major tournaments.
He would have been a national hero. But he isn't. He's a twat.
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Post by AndySk on Mar 28, 2015 22:02:03 GMT 1
Had a lot of time for him in his playing days, since his retirement I've got absolute no time for him what so ever. He claimed if he was white he would have been England captain, what he failed to add was that David Beckham was captain during the vast majority of his Englabd career. Gary Neville was capped more than Sol and he was never captain. Plus weren't the other captains Shearer and Adams when Sol played. Def players who deserved it more than Campbell
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Post by 3Pipe on Mar 28, 2015 22:15:20 GMT 1
It probably still haunts him that he had 2 'winners' wrongly disallowed on England duty in major tournaments. I bet his side throwing away the Champions League final with 14 minutes to go haunts him more.
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Post by Captainslapper on Mar 28, 2015 22:16:58 GMT 1
Presumably Les ferdinand had enormous say in the appointment of Chris Ramsay as manager of QPR until the end of the season. Wonder if hed have got the job if he hadn't been black? Probably not going by the sort of crap LF comes out with. Maybe if hed have appointed a manager on ability rather than race, they might have stood a better chance of staying up?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2015 22:34:07 GMT 1
I lost all respect for Les Ferdinand when he smashed up the Blue Peter garden in 1983. I was 4 at the time.
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Post by Mr Breitside on Mar 28, 2015 22:48:44 GMT 1
Has Campbell or Ferdinand got their full coaching badges ?
There aren't that many x black players who have and that is a big part of the issue.. Chairman don't want to interview people like ince and curle who have repeatedly failed. They have had their chance.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2015 22:56:40 GMT 1
Had a lot of time for him in his playing days, since his retirement I've got absolute no time for him what so ever. He claimed if he was white he would have been England captain, what he failed to add was that David Beckham was captain during the vast majority of his Englabd career. Gary Neville was capped more than Sol and he was never captain. Plus weren't the other captains Shearer and Adams when Sol played. Def players who deserved it more than Campbell They probably were, I can't remember in truth but I do know that Sol had many players ahead of him in the ranks. He didn't stand out as captain material at the time. IMO he's tarnished his image and reputation. Comes across as bitter and twisted, I'm sick of hearing from him. I think he's full of horse shit, who needs to get a grip and realise that there are people out there who are going through real problems in real life, not questioning every Tom, Dick and Harry in football as to why wasn't England captain. Get over yourself Sol. He thinks the world is against him and people don't like him because he's black, he's just plain and simply wrong. People don't like him because he's acted like a fucking parasite since the day he retired.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2015 23:27:11 GMT 1
Why can't ex footballers accept that other people are better/qualified to do a job than them,no matter what colour they are,Gary Neville wasn't the most popular player but he's a very intelligent lad who's never let any one down,and as proved his employers right whether working for Man U or sky TV or England,, where as Campbell just comes across as a c***,,I know who I'd employ,,,nothing to do with colour
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Post by htfcfcfc on Mar 29, 2015 0:52:14 GMT 1
What an idiot. Great players don't necessarily make great manager. I.e Bryan Robson.
You have to earn the right.
His comments are a joke and a massive ego is being used to try to demonstrate racism. Pathetic
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Post by trailingleg on Mar 29, 2015 3:17:35 GMT 1
What an idiot. Great players don't necessarily make great manager. I.e Bryan Robson. You have to earn the right. His comments are a joke and a massive ego is being used to try to demonstrate racism. Pathetic I think that Campbell's point would be that Robson had the opportunity. Just saying.
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Post by Essex Terrier on Mar 29, 2015 9:11:30 GMT 1
JUDAS!!
COYS
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Post by Headless Chicken on Mar 29, 2015 11:20:28 GMT 1
Presumably Les ferdinand had enormous say in the appointment of Chris Ramsay as manager of QPR until the end of the season. Wonder if hed have got the job if he hadn't been black? Probably not going by the sort of crap LF comes out with. Maybe if hed have appointed a manager on ability rather than race, they might have stood a better chance of staying up? If that is what happened for once I'd agree with you on thus area of debate, because it would be simply wrong. However, you live in a fantasy world when it comes to this topic. You are bang on when you say we shouldn't have to even discuss race, let alone consider measures like the Rooney rule. Unfortunately, we do still have genuine discrimination and more frequently just naive preconceptions. Fingers crossed we won't be having to discuss this in five years or so and can genuinely give people the bird for playing a sex or race card, but as it stands today a lot of these iniatives are the lesser of two evils. Sol Campbell does come across as a complete bell though! NB- I'm not going to 'debate' this, as your mind is closed on this topic.
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Post by wasp on Mar 29, 2015 11:52:40 GMT 1
I want to in the councils "black workers association" but I'm not allowed cause im white.
Now that's what I call racism!!!
And segregation! South Africa!
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Post by Captainslapper on Mar 29, 2015 13:11:35 GMT 1
Presumably Les ferdinand had enormous say in the appointment of Chris Ramsay as manager of QPR until the end of the season. Wonder if hed have got the job if he hadn't been black? Probably not going by the sort of crap LF comes out with. Maybe if hed have appointed a manager on ability rather than race, they might have stood a better chance of staying up? If that is what happened for once I'd agree with you on thus area of debate, because it would be simply wrong. However, you live in a fantasy world when it comes to this topic. You are bang on when you say we shouldn't have to even discuss race, let alone consider measures like the Rooney rule. Unfortunately, we do still have genuine discrimination and more frequently just naive preconceptions. Fingers crossed we won't be having to discuss this in five years or so and can genuinely give people the bird for playing a sex or race card, but as it stands today a lot of these iniatives are the lesser of two evils. Sol Campbell does come across as a complete bell though! NB- I'm not going to 'debate' this, as your mind is closed on this topic. where as yours is clearly open? Stop being so hypocritical. My mind is closed to introducing discrimination as a way to counter 'perceived' discrimination.
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Post by borisminor on Mar 29, 2015 17:20:49 GMT 1
Had a lot of time for him in his playing days, since his retirement I've got absolute no time for him what so ever. He claimed if he was white he would have been England captain, what he failed to add was that David Beckham was captain during the vast majority of his Englabd career. Gary Neville was capped more than Sol and he was never captain. Plus weren't the other captains Shearer and Adams when Sol played. Def players who deserved it more than Campbell Picture of Paul Ince vs. Italy with blood on his shirt as England captain, in the foreground is Sol Campbell. I hope he realises what a prick he is.
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Post by teddytheterrier on Mar 30, 2015 10:15:05 GMT 1
But I am Sol Campbell!
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Post by terrierfortythree on Mar 30, 2015 10:15:26 GMT 1
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Post by Captainslapper on Mar 30, 2015 10:26:17 GMT 1
What an absolute moron! 'A black boss loses his job, he doesn't get another job... a white boss loses his job, he gets another job and another job..' Does he need to see a list of either black bosses who have been sacked and got another job, or of white bosses who get sacked and don't? He himself got sacked by Celtic ( where he was abysmal ) and got another job at Tranmere ( where he was abysmal ) As a rule of thumb if you are abysmal in your first job, you are unlikely to get another chance, such is the competition for jobs, regardless of what race you are. He actually bucks that trend, because he did get another chance! All this nonsensical bleating by the likes of Barnes, Ferdinand Campbell and Cole. They all have the same attitude- I should be given a top job- don't you know who I am??!! Doesn't matter if I haven't bothered doing my badges or that when I have been given a chance Ive been shit, or that Im clearly an egotistical prick of the first order that no chairman would want to work with...I was once a top player so if I don't get a top job , it must be cos Im black!" wankers all of them,.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2015 12:43:35 GMT 1
Barnes managed to lose 8/29 when he was at Celtic. Incredible when you think about it. They can't all have been against Rangers. That's why he's struggled to get jobs since, fook all to do with him being black, he is just shite. Nickhudd wouldn't have lost more than two games in 29.
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Post by terrierfortythree on Mar 30, 2015 13:27:48 GMT 1
What an absolute moron! 'A black boss loses his job, he doesn't get another job... a white boss loses his job, he gets another job and another job..' Does he need to see a list of either black bosses who have been sacked and got another job, or of white bosses who get sacked and don't? He himself got sacked by Celtic ( where he was abysmal ) and got another job at Tranmere ( where he was abysmal ) As a rule of thumb if you are abysmal in your first job, you are unlikely to get another chance, such is the competition for jobs, regardless of what race you are. He actually bucks that trend, because he did get another chance! All this nonsensical bleating by the likes of Barnes, Ferdinand Campbell and Cole. They all have the same attitude- I should be given a top job- don't you know who I am??!! Doesn't matter if I haven't bothered doing my badges or that when I have been given a chance Ive been shit, or that Im clearly an egotistical prick of the first order that no chairman would want to work with...I was once a top player so if I don't get a top job , it must be cos Im black!" wankers all of them,. paul ince irks me the most, the way he seems to be holding his son back is pissing me off the most, time for tom to tell daddy where to go, unreal what paul said to monaco about him being as good as james rodriquez. They seem to get air time when its a slow news day, were in an international break now so sky and the beeb etc can afford to make stories out of the idiotic ramblings.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2015 13:28:25 GMT 1
In fact he only lost to Rangers once. Dundee Utd away, Motherwell home, Rangers away, Motherwell away, Hearts home, Lyon away, Lyon home and the cherry on the cake, Inverness Caledonian Thistle at home. Not bad for eight months work at a club with shed loads more cash than all but one other team. He was utter garbage at Tranmere too.
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