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Post by topref66 on Mar 31, 2015 13:17:08 GMT 1
Dear Mr Powell
Due to the type of football you seem to want to play being dull, boring and unadventurous my father, a Town fan for over 70 years and season ticket holder for the past 10, will not be renewing his season ticket.
Just thought you should know in the vain hope you may see the light and change your phiosophy beofore many others follow suit!
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Post by Cole on Mar 31, 2015 13:19:32 GMT 1
Jesus Christ not another one.
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Post by ACW on Mar 31, 2015 13:21:00 GMT 1
Dear Mr Powell Due to the type of football you seem to want to play being dull, boring and unadventurous my father, a Town fan for over 70 years and season ticket holder for the past 10, will not be renewing his season ticket. Just thought you should know in the vain hope you may see the light and change your phiosophy beofore many others follow suit! Although I too have reservations about Powell's style of football, I have seen far worse in my comparatively shorter years of support. So I suspect your father, who is quite within his rights to not renew, must have seen more shite than I have, particularly in the last 10 years when he's had a season ticket. As I say, he is quite within his rights not to renew, but to blame the quality of football seems strange to me when its been much worse in the recent past.
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Post by B97 on Mar 31, 2015 13:24:36 GMT 1
Bye
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Post by AndySk on Mar 31, 2015 13:25:28 GMT 1
Dear Mr Powell Due to the type of football you seem to want to play being dull, boring and unadventurous my father, a Town fan for over 70 years and season ticket holder for the past 10, will not be renewing his season ticket. Just thought you should know in the vain hope you may see the light and change your phiosophy beofore many others follow suit! Although I too have reservations about Powell's style of football, I have seen far worse in my comparatively shorter years of support. So I suspect your father, who is quite within his rights to not renew, must have seen more shite than I have, particularly in the last 10 years when he's had a season ticket. As I say, he is quite within his rights not to renew, but to blame the quality of football seems strange to me when its been much worse in the recent past. Yeah but even these worse teams we've had (of which there's been many) we actually went out to try and win our home games, especially against weak opposition. Not the case with Powell. No problem with the players (in the majority) but the big problem is with Powell's dont lose mentality. Would seem there are many who feel the same way.
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Post by HalifaxTerrier on Mar 31, 2015 13:27:31 GMT 1
Despite not winning either I did quite enjoy both of the last two games we've played and both were far from boring in my opinion, but each to their own. I know we have had some very poor performances but there has been some good ones in the mix too and you've gotta hope that we'll improve both with experience and with his own additions to the playing staff too. I guess it's never been this bad in 70 years though. Terrible times we are in
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Post by Hellawell on Mar 31, 2015 13:28:26 GMT 1
For me watching my home town club play is not about going to watch the best, fastest, most skilful team around. It's so much more than that. Given where I live (Preston) and the affordability of season tickets at Manchester City had I wanted to go purely to witness the best players playing at the highest level I would have quit town years ago. No matter the formation, no matter the tactics, seeing your home town club score and win games is a far more valuable experience that sitting watching a team I have no affinity with passing another team off the park.
I will support town no matter what division, no matter what the style of play, because I have a reason to support the club and a close connection with them and my fellow supporters. My father is the same age as yours and he has confirmed he has seen town play a much lower standard than they are currently. I would conclude it is probably your fathers older age cynicism that has led to that decision as I've never seen town play at a higher level than they are currently and look forward to another season under Powell. To draw conclusions on his ability at this stage is poor form.
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Post by ACW on Mar 31, 2015 13:28:48 GMT 1
Although I too have reservations about Powell's style of football, I have seen far worse in my comparatively shorter years of support. So I suspect your father, who is quite within his rights to not renew, must have seen more shite than I have, particularly in the last 10 years when he's had a season ticket. As I say, he is quite within his rights not to renew, but to blame the quality of football seems strange to me when its been much worse in the recent past. Yeah but even these worse teams we've had (of which there's been many) we actually went out to try and win our home games, especially against weak opposition. Not the case with Powell. No problem with the players (in the majority) but the big problem is with Powell's dont lose mentality. Would seem there are many who feel the same way. Fair points, many of which I agree with, but I would still maintain that the general standard of football (and entertainment) on show is better now than at most times during the recent past. And I would argue that watching a Powell team defend a 0-0 at home is still more entertaining than a Stan Ternent side trying to win!
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Post by HalifaxTerrier on Mar 31, 2015 13:32:06 GMT 1
We had 30+ shots in the last game. Is that not trying to win?
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Post by AndySk on Mar 31, 2015 13:38:36 GMT 1
We had 30+ shots in the last game. Is that not trying to win? What about all the games we were drawing and he refuses to make any subs to try and go for the win. Even says shite like 'well we might have lost' as to why he didnt make any subs against Cardiff, prob the worst team to come to The JS this season
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Post by ossett1terrier on Mar 31, 2015 13:45:15 GMT 1
Dear Mr Powell Due to the type of football you seem to want to play being dull, boring and unadventurous my father, a Town fan for over 70 years and season ticket holder for the past 10, will not be renewing his season ticket. Just thought you should know in the vain hope you may see the light and change your phiosophy beofore many others follow suit! Look at me, Look at me....
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Post by shawsie on Mar 31, 2015 13:45:49 GMT 1
Although I too have reservations about Powell's style of football, I have seen far worse in my comparatively shorter years of support. So I suspect your father, who is quite within his rights to not renew, must have seen more shite than I have, particularly in the last 10 years when he's had a season ticket. As I say, he is quite within his rights not to renew, but to blame the quality of football seems strange to me when its been much worse in the recent past. Yah but even these worse teams we've had (of which there's been many) we actually went out to try and win our home games, especially against weak opposition. Not the case with Powell. No problem with the players (in the majority) but the big problem is with Powell's dont lose mentality. Would seem there are many who feel the same way. Even allowing for the fact that powell has been a little negative, it doesnt excuse the basic errors the PLAYERS have made which are continually costing us!!! Powell may need to be a tad more positive but he needs two things first......a transfer window to bring in his own players and also some young lads to kick on and put pressure on those currently wearing the shirt cos too many of em know a poor performance or two wont cost them their place. Im not that impressed myself with CP right now but i do think he is worthy of more time during the summer to reshape the squad as he sees fit, and he surely deserves some credit for the development of scannell and bunn this season.
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Post by AndySk on Mar 31, 2015 13:51:24 GMT 1
Yah but even these worse teams we've had (of which there's been many) we actually went out to try and win our home games, especially against weak opposition. Not the case with Powell. No problem with the players (in the majority) but the big problem is with Powell's dont lose mentality. Would seem there are many who feel the same way. Even allowing for the fact that powell has been a little negative, it doesnt excuse the basic errors the PLAYERS have made which are continually costing us!!! Powell may need to be a tad more positive but he needs two things first......a transfer window to bring in his own players and also some young lads to kick on and put pressure on those currently wearing the shirt cos too many of em know a poor performance or two wont cost them their place. Im not that impressed myself with CP right now but i do think he is worthy of more time during the summer to reshape the squad as he sees fit, and he surely deserves some credit for the development of scannell and bunn this season. Fair enough he could do with bringing his own players But is he gonna be looking at the David Edgar, big lump no talent type players to bring in? Doubt we'll be seeing many tricky players who are good on the ball. Plus are you confident of him giving much game time to the young uns. I doubt that as well. He's been saying for the last 4 months how he thinks Lolley has a lot to offer/wants to see more of him etc... then does feck all with him for the majority. Hope i'm wrong but just dont rate him at all and dont think he's the right guy for us
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Post by HalifaxTerrier on Mar 31, 2015 13:53:21 GMT 1
We had 30+ shots in the last game. Is that not trying to win? What about all the games we were drawing and he refuses to make any subs to try and go for the win. Even says shite like 'well we might have lost' as to why he didnt make any subs against Cardiff, prob the worst team to come to The JS this season Damn, I was hoping you would have forgotten about all of those.
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Post by AndySk on Mar 31, 2015 14:07:49 GMT 1
What about all the games we were drawing and he refuses to make any subs to try and go for the win. Even says shite like 'well we might have lost' as to why he didnt make any subs against Cardiff, prob the worst team to come to The JS this season Damn, I was hoping you would have forgotten about all of those. You remember the ones, you were having a go at Powell yourself after them
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Post by Venezuelan Pete on Mar 31, 2015 14:16:26 GMT 1
Dear Mr Powell Due to the type of football you seem to want to play being dull, boring and unadventurous my father, a Town fan for over 70 years and season ticket holder for the past 10, will not be renewing his season ticket. Just thought you should know in the vain hope you may see the light and change your phiosophy beofore many others follow suit! What if he doesn't read the forum?
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Post by shawsie on Mar 31, 2015 14:20:20 GMT 1
Even allowing for the fact that powell has been a little negative, it doesnt excuse the basic errors the PLAYERS have made which are continually costing us!!! Powell may need to be a tad more positive but he needs two things first......a transfer window to bring in his own players and also some young lads to kick on and put pressure on those currently wearing the shirt cos too many of em know a poor performance or two wont cost them their place. Im not that impressed myself with CP right now but i do think he is worthy of more time during the summer to reshape the squad as he sees fit, and he surely deserves some credit for the development of scannell and bunn this season. Fair enough he could do with bringing his own players But is he gonna be looking at the David Edgar, big lump no talent type players to bring in? Doubt we'll be seeing many tricky players who are good on the ball. Plus are you confident of him giving much game time to the young uns. I doubt that as well. He's been saying for the last 4 months how he thinks Lolley has a lot to offer/wants to see more of him etc... then does feck all with him for the majority. Hope i'm wrong but just dont rate him at all and dont think he's the right guy for us Jury is out for me too mate...........but remember the players like parsley, jepson, marsden who were awful in their early times here but developed into good players for us. Maybe the same can happen for chris powell, because he did well at charlton and has a decent reputation in the game. Am happy to give him the time to prove the doubters wrong - but please lets not repeat last years mistakes when robins was a sitting duck due to being undermined on the coaching front and then had no brass to get new players in during the summer except for players we didnt ruddy need!
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Post by AndySk on Mar 31, 2015 14:21:32 GMT 1
Dear Mr Powell Due to the type of football you seem to want to play being dull, boring and unadventurous my father, a Town fan for over 70 years and season ticket holder for the past 10, will not be renewing his season ticket. Just thought you should know in the vain hope you may see the light and change your phiosophy beofore many others follow suit! What if he doesn't read the forum? He's also rung him, sent him a letter, posted on his facebook wall, tweeted him, sent him a snapchat (posing with his thumbs down) messaged him on Whatsapp and turned him down on Grindr
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Post by SaudiTerrier on Mar 31, 2015 14:21:33 GMT 1
I find it hard to believe that in 70 years, this is the worst football Town has played...
I think what might be a more realistic reason to stop going to watch after 70 years of it is that you've been going to watch for 70 years, which usually means you're over 70 years old and are getting to the stage where you can't be arsed doing certain things.
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Post by bro600 on Mar 31, 2015 14:23:49 GMT 1
Dear Mr Powell Due to the type of football you seem to want to play being dull, boring and unadventurous my father, a Town fan for over 70 years and season ticket holder for the past 10, will not be renewing his season ticket. Just thought you should know in the vain hope you may see the light and change your phiosophy beofore many others follow suit! Maybe you should be advising your father that he is wrong instead of beating up Chris Powell. ? This is what you wrote about Mark Robins and surely the same goes for Chris Powell? I QUOTE "I just wonder if he's over complicating things for the players so firstly they don't understand what he wants then finally stop trying because they can't do it. I'm not saying that's he's "turned stupid" just that he ought to consider the standard and "intelligence" of his players before he starts changing tactics and formations so they don't get it. If the players he currently has are not football intelligent he should use simple tactics until such a time as he gets players in who understand what he wants. If the senior players don't buy into what he wants to do he should be "intelligent" enough to not be stubborn, chose tactics that they understand and get some positive results to keep us up. I think he sees that as a defeat and dent to his pride, I see it as a good management of the resources he currently has."
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Post by Marco4 on Mar 31, 2015 14:30:23 GMT 1
What if he doesn't read the forum? He's also rung him, sent him a letter, posted on his facebook wall, tweeted him, sent him a snapchat (posing with his thumbs down) messaged him on Whatsapp and turned him down on Grindr If he spent less time replying to all of them and more time training his team to deal with set pieces...
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Post by HalifaxTerrier on Mar 31, 2015 14:32:07 GMT 1
Damn, I was hoping you would have forgotten about all of those. You remember the ones, you were having a go at Powell yourself after them Yeah I remember em well, too well. I'm just clinging on to the hope that things are going to change. I have enjoyed the last two games, Lolley has had a bit more game time, Majewski is getting a go and Edgar isn't playing in midfield so I'm kind of getting what I asked for, just a lot slower than I'd have liked. So with that in mind I'm hopeful that things are slowly improving and with a few more of his own players added we might start to see a bit more trust in the defence and a more positive attitude in going for the win more often, particularly at home. Guess it's fair that he should at least get a full pre-season with the squad and a chance to add to it before we can properly judge him and let's face it, he isn't going anywhere is he? So I've decided to move into the 'wait and see what happens over the summer' camp for now. There's no point in getting all worked up about it and refusing to renew is not going to solve any issues either.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2015 14:53:09 GMT 1
my dads never even had a season ticket. Might start a thread about it.
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Post by Amigo on Mar 31, 2015 14:53:21 GMT 1
Even allowing for the fact that powell has been a little negative, it doesnt excuse the basic errors the PLAYERS have made which are continually costing us!!! Powell may need to be a tad more positive but he needs two things first......a transfer window to bring in his own players and also some young lads to kick on and put pressure on those currently wearing the shirt cos too many of em know a poor performance or two wont cost them their place. Im not that impressed myself with CP right now but i do think he is worthy of more time during the summer to reshape the squad as he sees fit, and he surely deserves some credit for the development of scannell and bunn this season. Fair enough he could do with bringing his own players But is he gonna be looking at the David Edgar, big lump no talent type players to bring in? Doubt we'll be seeing many tricky players who are good on the ball. Plus are you confident of him giving much game time to the young uns. I doubt that as well. He's been saying for the last 4 months how he thinks Lolley has a lot to offer/wants to see more of him etc... then does feck all with him for the majority. Hope i'm wrong but just dont rate him at all and dont think he's the right guy for us He tries to get Scannell, Butterfield and Bunn on the pitch when ever he can, if he was completely against these types of players he wouldn't play them. He's given debuts to Boyle and Charles recently (they haven't had long on the pitch obviously but it's a start). As for Lolley I can see his problem, he plays in the same position as Scannell but he offers nowhere near the defensive side as Scannell and at the moment we aren't good enough to be able to carry players that won't work back. Everyone knows Lolley has talent but there are parts of his game he needs to work on and it should be one of the easiest parts of his game to work on.
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Post by EastCoastTerrier on Mar 31, 2015 14:57:24 GMT 1
My dads watched more than your dad
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Post by AndySk on Mar 31, 2015 14:57:49 GMT 1
Fair enough he could do with bringing his own players But is he gonna be looking at the David Edgar, big lump no talent type players to bring in? Doubt we'll be seeing many tricky players who are good on the ball. Plus are you confident of him giving much game time to the young uns. I doubt that as well. He's been saying for the last 4 months how he thinks Lolley has a lot to offer/wants to see more of him etc... then does feck all with him for the majority. Hope i'm wrong but just dont rate him at all and dont think he's the right guy for us He tries to get Scannell, Butterfield and Bunn on the pitch when ever he can, if he was completely against these types of players he wouldn't play them. He's given debuts to Boyle and Charles recently (they haven't had long on the pitch obviously but it's a start). As for Lolley I can see his problem, he plays in the same position as Scannell but he offers nowhere near the defensive side as Scannell and at the moment we aren't good enough to be able to carry players that won't work back. Everyone knows Lolley has talent but there are parts of his game he needs to work on and it should be one of the easiest parts of his game to work on. Even he cant play 11 defenders. Had Majewski all season and given him no time, be none of his sort of player coming in i wouldn't have thought. Before this season Lolley had started one game in the Championship and he scored one and set up two in it. Took him over 30 games to get another start and only got the odd 3 or 4 mins if that for the majority of those. Poor do for me.
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Post by Skint Terriers on Mar 31, 2015 15:06:19 GMT 1
just a bit pathetic
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2015 15:09:00 GMT 1
We had 30+ shots in the last game. Is that not trying to win? How many of those 30 were poor shots ?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2015 15:11:01 GMT 1
He tries to get Scannell, Butterfield and Bunn on the pitch when ever he can, if he was completely against these types of players he wouldn't play them. He's given debuts to Boyle and Charles recently (they haven't had long on the pitch obviously but it's a start). As for Lolley I can see his problem, he plays in the same position as Scannell but he offers nowhere near the defensive side as Scannell and at the moment we aren't good enough to be able to carry players that won't work back. Everyone knows Lolley has talent but there are parts of his game he needs to work on and it should be one of the easiest parts of his game to work on. Even he cant play 11 defenders. Had Majewski all season and given him no time, be none of his sort of player coming in i wouldn't have thought. Before this season Lolley had started one game in the Championship and he scored one and set up two in it. Took him over 30 games to get another start and only got the odd 3 or 4 mins if that for the majority of those. Poor do for me. I know it's hard to judge on a the brief appearances he's had, but he's never impressed. He also plays in the same role as Butterfield who's arguably been our best player this season and has had no injuries/suspensions. Personally I'd rather have seen Billing/Holmes/Tronstadt on the bench having the cameos Majewski's had these past few games.
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Post by HalifaxTerrier on Mar 31, 2015 15:28:28 GMT 1
We had 30+ shots in the last game. Is that not trying to win? How many of those 30 were poor shots ? I guess you could argue all of them seeing as none of them went in, but that doesn't mask the fact that we went for the win, does it? Do you think we were too defensive? What's your point?
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