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Post by workshyfop on Sept 1, 2015 18:54:27 GMT 1
Looking forward to the official line from Mids ...
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Post by Up the Duff. on Sept 1, 2015 19:00:48 GMT 1
A lot of posters last night told us to wait until we saw the new signings.
I bet they can't actually believe this.
Not a chance of staying up.
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Post by terrierng on Sept 1, 2015 19:03:07 GMT 1
Millers big bro Shola Ameobi a target according to the Un=Examined. He's been training with us for a while, looking at him doesn't make him a target. Haha course it does and i bet he signs too
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Sept 1, 2015 19:04:47 GMT 1
ted// goes without saying im wrong because you say I am.. Your 1000 % wrong on that.. Fair play to him he played for us .. By not the rest OK I said it .. you said the opposite .. it was patently obvious .. even if I hadn't been told by people who know I would have deduced it From the Powell interview .. in no interview since has Jacob said he wanted to stay .. then today both Powell and Dean said he wanted to leave .. but believe what you want brother
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Post by blueray4 on Sept 1, 2015 19:05:49 GMT 1
Has anyone done a list of our ins and outs over the last 12 months yet? Can somebody do one OUT Alex Smithies Ian Bennett Paul Dixon Anthony Gerrard Jack Robinson/ Reece James Lee Peltier David Edgar (Loan) Jacob Butterfield Conor Coady Danny Ward Adam Hamill Radoslaw Majewski (Loan) Diego Poyet(Loan) Matt Crooks Jake Carroll Jordan Sinnott Oscar Gobern Ben Atkinson Grant holt(Loan) Jon Stead Martin Paterson Daniel Carr Bradley Carroll Nathaniel Pells Shieden Rodgers In Dean Whitehead Jason Davidson Kyle Dempsey Jordy Hiwula Martin Cranie Emyr Huws (Loan) Mustafa Caryol (Loan) Jamie Paterson (Loan) ???don't know if I have missed anyone out.
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Post by rocky on Sept 1, 2015 19:05:51 GMT 1
How disheartening has today been?! I hoped for so much more, but knew deep down the club would not deliver. I appreciate all that Deano has done, but we may aswell start waving the white flag! League one beckons for those who can't score and/or defend! We struggle with both! The usual " we'll utilise the loan window" comments will appear shortly, no doubt. We need some positive news, the whole atmosphere is soul destroying. That's a very appropriate point Nick. It's all doom & gloom at the moment & everyone needs a spark. Loans can work though. Grant Holt was signed in the loan window & he provided the catalyst for an upturn in fortunes. Something similar needed again.
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Post by haveitback on Sept 1, 2015 19:06:36 GMT 1
I've no rose tinted glasses on with this stuff & have no vested interest whatsoever, but if I were in Dean Hoyles shoes and knowing that whatever I tried to do was... a) in the best interests of the club, long and short term b) still being met with what on the face of it, appears to be 50% of the fanbase criticising those decisions (sometimes because they don't understand or appreciate longer term plans or are just naturally critical...) c) was being faced with a disgruntled employee list being able to be publicly critical with no real threat of any consequences (some of who get paid a kings ransom for considerably more abject performances than good ones) Then I'd be more inclined to think there's an easier route to throwing my money down the toilet... I don't know DH & genuinely don't know if he's in this for some sort of Town fan sainthood or not. I also appreciate he's independently wealthy (which probably annoys a fair few on here), but given the pressure that he's under and the lack of support he gets from folk it wouldn't surprise me to see him throw the towel in shortly. At the end of the day he's a Town fan, but he's now one that doesn't have much of a chance of sitting with the normal folk ever again because there'll always be some ungrateful bugger launching a meat pie at him on the terraces for the next 30 yrs... I don't think DH is unique in terms of investment either. I think that the here and now culture we seem to live in, aided by social media like this place, drives the more negative voices to the fore. The old adage 'be careful what you wish for' will come home to bite many folk in yrs to come, particularly football fans who think they have a god given right to success because they 'invest' in their club by way of a season ticket etc... That's no criticism of folks paying that money either, just that some who are old enough to remember, seem to forget that it's not that long ago that similar 'investment' was done without any prospect of a return & the realisation that you might be served up dross/disappointment, but that just occasionally you have a season that will live long in the memory... So many points which could have been quoted however, No one i know cert think that because we spend money on Town we should have success, However it is hard to not comment when you see the club going backwards and the lack of investment is sending us in one direction when we are already piss poor and in the relegation zone, Selling your best players and replacing them with loans is a weak target and smells of, The club firmly believe that this is the year, we will go down, As they have said we can not compete financially at this level and with most clubs around us spending on recruitment, So why sign players on contracts which we can't afford in league One, Might aswell sign loan players, If we stay up great if not we aren't tied to contracts. It's not about having digs at DH he is a business man and sometimes i cringe when he sounds like he is been picked on by the fans when we speak out, He hasn't got to where he is today by been soft and lets not forget he is the custodian of Town not Town itself. As i have said on another thread i understand the plan and the criteria, And yes it's worked up to press but it will fail purely because we have money in the bank and not many assets left, Scanz and Wells and if Wells puts in many more performances like sat he will be worth a fraction of what we paid for him. So ultimately in today's day of footy the idea the board has looks and sounds good but due to the money involved in football it will never work above League One football long term. Put simply we need to spend just to stay in the division never mind have any aspirations of success.
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Post by Hammy (still in Golcar) on Sept 1, 2015 19:07:49 GMT 1
KEEP THE FUCKING FAITH.... If there's one man I could trust to run the football club for the long term its Deano, wish he was part of my business.
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Post by thomo on Sept 1, 2015 19:12:00 GMT 1
Whatever happens now I think the fact we can only play 5 loan players at a time means we're totally screwed. That's not enough to address the weaknesses of the team. And it's far too many loan/new players that need time to gel. Relegation nailed on
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Post by Headless Chicken on Sept 1, 2015 19:12:17 GMT 1
A lot of posters last night told us to wait until we saw the new signings. I bet they can't actually believe this. Not a chance of staying up. I don't like the tone of some posts, but in all fairness we really couldn't have anticipated things being this bad. A huge step backwards, even considering we had limited control over Butterfield and Coady.
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Post by BLUE&WHITE on Sept 1, 2015 19:17:09 GMT 1
I thought there was a limit on loans you can have in a season?
I must admit that I was very positive still this morning, I've always trusted dean & all members of the board. But we've not won this season and have clearly got some issues/weaknesses and now we are weaker than last season?!
I'm sorry but I just can't be positive about this situation.
I'm actually pretty confident that huws will prove a reasonable replacement for Butterfield and the left side has been strengthened but we were badly crying out for a defender and a forward, but overall we just look so much weaker.
Especially considering how impossible it must be for Powell to have his team disassembled! Where are the fruits of this improved scouting network!?! Dean always said that we build for the future but there's a gap between first team and future? Well how are we going to address that?
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 1, 2015 19:17:12 GMT 1
So we're left with a goalie who's not as good as the one we've sold, a defence that can't defend, 2 central midfielders that can't pass and get a nosebleed going over the halfway line, a winger with no end product, a striker with no confidence and another who gets his boots fitted by a blacksmith. Marvellous
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Post by 4 pts on Sept 1, 2015 19:18:48 GMT 1
Has anyone done a list of our ins and outs over the last 12 months yet? Can somebody do one OUT Alex Smithies Ian Bennett Paul Dixon Anthony Gerrard Jack Robinson/ Reece James Lee Peltier David Edgar (Loan) Jacob Butterfield Conor Coady Danny Ward Adam Hamill Radoslaw Majewski (Loan) Diego Poyet(Loan) Matt Crooks Jake Carroll Jordan Sinnott Oscar Gobern Ben Atkinson Grant holt(Loan) Jon Stead Martin Paterson Daniel Carr Bradley Carroll Nathaniel Pells Shieden Rodgers In Dean Whitehead Jason Davidson Kyle Dempsey Jordy Hiwula Martin Cranie Emyr Huws (Loan) Mustafa Caryol (Loan) Jamie Paterson (Loan) ???don't know if I have missed anyone out. WOW
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2015 19:20:07 GMT 1
Have it back - you're clearly frustrated and your post above is reasoned.
However, what brings out language like "the club firmly believe this is the yr we'll go down" - after just over 10% of the season has gone? Is that a factual statement or just that you've had a pretty disappointing day (football-wise) & you're just lashing out a bit? I'm sure there's time in the Jan window to start a fire sale if that was the actual business plan.
Not one person in the lifetime of the club has pumped money in like Dean Hoyle. Not suggesting it gives him immunity from criticism, or that it will ultimately lead to success, but there have been many Chairmen who have taken it on as either a mantle to keep things straight until other people were able to step in, some who've tried to exploit things but very very few who've thrown sums of money at it with no realistic chance of return (DH & Rubery the only two that come to mind here).
In the long run there are a handful of clubs who have the financial strength to flout the rules, deal with the consequences and come out reasonably OK, but there are many more that are just struggling and are probably a hairs breadth from a slide down the leagues.
I don't get this constant desire to keep up with the Joneses (& I exclude you from that list BTW...)
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Post by townrwe on Sept 1, 2015 19:20:50 GMT 1
Has anyone done a list of our ins and outs over the last 12 months yet? Can somebody do one OUT Alex Smithies Ian Bennett Paul Dixon Anthony Gerrard Jack Robinson/ Reece James Lee Peltier David Edgar (Loan) Jacob Butterfield Conor Coady Danny Ward Adam Hamill Radoslaw Majewski (Loan) Diego Poyet(Loan) Matt Crooks Jake Carroll Jordan Sinnott Oscar Gobern Ben Atkinson Grant holt(Loan) Jon Stead Martin Paterson Daniel Carr Bradley Carroll Nathaniel Pells Shieden Rodgers In Dean Whitehead Jason Davidson Kyle Dempsey Jordy Hiwula Martin Cranie Emyr Huws (Loan) Mustafa Caryol (Loan) Jamie Paterson (Loan) ???don't know if I have missed anyone out. You've missed jordy hiwula going out on loan.
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 1, 2015 19:23:46 GMT 1
Have it back - you're clearly frustrated and your post above is reasoned. However, what brings out language like "the club firmly believe this is the yr we'll go down" - after just over 10% of the season has gone? Is that a factual statement or just that you've had a pretty disappointing day (football-wise) & you're just lashing out a bit? I'm sure there's time in the Jan window to start a fire sale if that was the actual business plan. Not one person in the lifetime of the club has pumped money in like Dean Hoyle. Not suggesting it gives him immunity from criticism, or that it will ultimately lead to success, but there have been many Chairmen who have taken it on as either a mantle to keep things straight until other people were able to step in, some who've tried to exploit things but very very few who've thrown sums of money at it with no realistic chance of return (DH & Rubery the only two that come to mind here). In the long run there are a handful of clubs who have the financial strength to flout the rules, deal with the consequences and come out reasonably OK, but there are many more that are just struggling and are probably a hairs breadth from a slide down the leagues. I don't get this constant desire to keep up with the Joneses (& I exclude you from that list BTW...) How do you start a firesale in January ? If anyone was bid for the board bit their hand off, we're left with the ones no one wants Sent from my SM-G900F using proboards
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Post by hd7terrier on Sept 1, 2015 19:24:04 GMT 1
I feel very let down today, the club is taking the piss out of the 10k loyal fans can't turn up no matter what.
We needed a RB because Smith is not good enough, we needed a replacement for Butterfield the club have known for weeks he would go. And we needed a striker because we only have 2. We got none of these.
Jamie Patterson is a good player and I think he will be a good addition but it is not the area we needed strengthen.
20 years I have been a season ticket holder but as it stands I'm struggling to justify a 21st. Thinking like this really pains me because Huddersfield Town is in my blood.
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Post by 4 pts on Sept 1, 2015 19:27:07 GMT 1
So we're left with a goalie who's not as good as the one we've sold, a defence that can't defend, 2 central midfielders that can't pass and get a nosebleed going over the halfway line, a winger with no end product, a striker with no confidence and another who gets his boots fitted by a blacksmith. Marvellous Sent from my SM-G900F using proboards Have to pull you up on the winger part and presume you are talking about Scannell. Any striker worth his salt would love crosses fizzed across the 6 yard box. Only looking back to last season, Bournemouth were promoted with those type of balls played in. Striker awareness and movement is key. Apart from that completely agree
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Post by drfootball on Sept 1, 2015 19:30:27 GMT 1
Has anyone done a list of our ins and outs over the last 12 months yet? Can somebody do one £10 million in £,0.5 million out !! looks like Tuesday nights at Yovil this time next year
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 1, 2015 19:30:50 GMT 1
And Liam Coogans is going on loan to Queen of the South
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Post by BLUE&WHITE on Sept 1, 2015 19:31:40 GMT 1
Has anyone done a list of our ins and outs over the last 12 months yet? Can somebody do one OUT Alex Smithies Ian Bennett Paul Dixon Anthony Gerrard Jack Robinson/ Reece James Lee Peltier David Edgar (Loan) Jacob Butterfield Conor Coady Danny Ward Adam Hamill Radoslaw Majewski (Loan) Diego Poyet(Loan) Matt Crooks Jake Carroll Jordan Sinnott Oscar Gobern Ben Atkinson Grant holt(Loan) Jon Stead Martin Paterson Daniel Carr Bradley Carroll Nathaniel Pells Shieden Rodgers In Dean Whitehead Jason Davidson Kyle Dempsey Jordy Hiwula Martin Cranie Emyr Huws (Loan) Mustafa Caryol (Loan) Jamie Paterson (Loan) ???don't know if I have missed anyone out. To be fair I'm quite happy with that list, there's a lot of dross on there and the ones in are a better standard. But I still don't think we have adequately replaced a few of those players. I'd actually quite like Majewski back to do butter fields role.
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 1, 2015 19:32:20 GMT 1
So we're left with a goalie who's not as good as the one we've sold, a defence that can't defend, 2 central midfielders that can't pass and get a nosebleed going over the halfway line, a winger with no end product, a striker with no confidence and another who gets his boots fitted by a blacksmith. Marvellous Sent from my SM-G900F using proboards Have to pull you up on the winger part and presume you are talking about Scannell. Any striker worth his salt would love crosses fizzed across the 6 yard box. Only looking back to last season, Bournemouth were promoted with those type of balls played in. Striker awareness and movement is key. Apart from that completely agree Fair enough, I was thinking about how few goals and assists he got. But he's definately all we have left now Sent from my SM-G900F using proboards
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Post by youngboyterrier on Sept 1, 2015 19:34:47 GMT 1
Has anyone done a list of our ins and outs over the last 12 months yet? Can somebody do one OUT Alex Smithies Ian Bennett Paul Dixon Anthony Gerrard Jack Robinson/ Reece James Lee Peltier David Edgar (Loan) Jacob Butterfield Conor Coady Danny Ward Adam Hamill Radoslaw Majewski (Loan) Diego Poyet(Loan) Matt Crooks Jake Carroll Jordan Sinnott Oscar Gobern Ben Atkinson Grant holt(Loan) Jon Stead Martin Paterson Daniel Carr Bradley Carroll Nathaniel Pells Shieden Rodgers In Dean Whitehead Jason Davidson Kyle Dempsey Jordy Hiwula Martin Cranie Emyr Huws (Loan) Mustafa Caryol (Loan) Jamie Paterson (Loan) ???don't know if I have missed anyone out. This list is absolutely mad.
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Post by Up the Duff. on Sept 1, 2015 19:36:00 GMT 1
A lot of posters last night told us to wait until we saw the new signings. I bet they can't actually believe this. Not a chance of staying up. I don't like the tone of some posts, but in all fairness we really couldn't have anticipated things being this bad. A huge step backwards, even considering we had limited control over Butterfield and Coady. We were all hoping last night that come the end of today we would have a few signings today to make up for losing Butterfield. This has come as a big disappointment, why another winger ?
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Post by upthetown on Sept 1, 2015 19:36:53 GMT 1
I don't like the tone of some posts, but in all fairness we really couldn't have anticipated things being this bad. A huge step backwards, even considering we had limited control over Butterfield and Coady. We were all hoping last night that come the end of today we would have a few signings today to make up for losing Butterfield. This has come as a big disappointment, why another winger ? Because he isn't just a winger?
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Post by captainblack on Sept 1, 2015 19:37:23 GMT 1
Has anyone done a list of our ins and outs over the last 12 months yet? Can somebody do one OUT Alex Smithies Ian Bennett Paul Dixon Anthony Gerrard Jack Robinson/ Reece James Lee Peltier David Edgar (Loan) Jacob Butterfield Conor Coady Danny Ward Adam Hamill Radoslaw Majewski (Loan) Diego Poyet(Loan) Matt Crooks Jake Carroll Jordan Sinnott Oscar Gobern Ben Atkinson Grant holt(Loan) Jon Stead Martin Paterson Daniel Carr Bradley Carroll Nathaniel Pells Shieden Rodgers In Dean Whitehead Jason Davidson Kyle Dempsey Jordy Hiwula Martin Cranie Emyr Huws (Loan) Mustafa Caryol (Loan) Jamie Paterson (Loan) ???don't know if I have missed anyone out. Yes there has to be a scapegoat , you missed Powell off the "out" column.
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Post by 4 pts on Sept 1, 2015 19:39:04 GMT 1
Wouldn't be surprised if Sordell is unveiled in the next few hours
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2015 19:40:45 GMT 1
I really don't have a fucking clue what's going on with town.scary thing is who does?
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Post by Up the Duff. on Sept 1, 2015 19:41:59 GMT 1
We were all hoping last night that come the end of today we would have a few signings today to make up for losing Butterfield. This has come as a big disappointment, why another winger ? Because he isn't just a winger? Ok ok why another winger come forward when we have carayol, Lolley, Bunn, scannell.. Jesus Fxcking christ.
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Post by bluedogs, Esq. on Sept 1, 2015 19:43:03 GMT 1
I feel very let down today, the club is taking the piss out of the 10k loyal fans can't turn up no matter what. We needed a RB because Smith is not good enough, we needed a replacement for Butterfield the club have known for weeks he would go. And we needed a striker because we only have 2. We got none of these. Jamie Patterson is a good player and I think he will be a good addition but it is not the area we needed strengthen. 20 years I have been a season ticket holder but as it stands I'm struggling to justify a 21st. Thinking like this really pains me because Huddersfield Town is in my blood. If I didn't have a season card I would stop going I've lost all interest and trust in the club
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