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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 18:08:02 GMT 1
Glass half full. If we can start next season as well as we finished last we'll do ok, I live in hope (every year) for a repeat of '69/'70 but I have to admit that it's probably more hope than expectation. Unless; we can unearth a washed up Manure wing half and buy him for £1700, a tough tackling jock who hasn't quite made it darn sarf, and a bunch of super-fit highly skilful juniors. Oh aye, add in a brilliant future England centre forward and a high quality future international defender and we should (as somebody write above) "piss this league) Dream of happy days UTT there were a few false dawns before 69/70. But fingers crossed
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on May 19, 2015 18:08:22 GMT 1
The whole forum bows to your vastly superior knowledge oh wise one. Pillock. Typically aggressive... I was making a serious point... It's like me going on Tranmeres forum and having an opinion... Walter is spot on... We got rid of the dead wood and our best football came towards the end of the season But carry on Just like his dislike of Beckford, who I suspect he never saw in a Town shirt and if he did he probably miscontrolled the ball once and his opinion was made and if he did see him, he wouldn't have had his current of Jermaine.
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Post by gledholt terrier on May 19, 2015 18:09:19 GMT 1
When were we last in the bottom three 'when it counts the most'? May 4th 2013. [quote We weren't in the bottom 3 on 4th May - as it stands tables do not give you your placing. (The last time we actually were in the bottom 3 was 22nd September 2014)
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on May 19, 2015 18:10:43 GMT 1
If Ipswich can get into play offs spending only 110k this season then so can we. If Ipswich have only spent 110k then I want to know they are telling the players to get them to perform to such a high standard in a super competitive division for, if the 110k figure is to be believed, minimum wage!!!
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Post by Chips Longhorn on May 19, 2015 18:13:10 GMT 1
If Ipswich can get into play offs spending only 110k this season then so can we. If Ipswich have only spent 110k then I want to know they are telling the players to get them to perform to such a high standard in a super competitive division for, if the 110k figure is to be believed, minimum wage!!! Some just don't get the fact that it's wage bills which are the key figures
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Post by Grizz on May 19, 2015 18:14:36 GMT 1
If Ipswich can get into play offs spending only 110k this season then so can we. If Ipswich have only spent 110k then I want to know they are telling the players to get them to perform to such a high standard in a super competitive division for, if the 110k figure is to be believed, minimum wage!!! The 110k figure i was saying was on transfer fee's not wages. thats what an ipswich fan told me
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 18:38:46 GMT 1
Eh? Which players that we got rid of did we miss? We probably played our best stuff of the season after the exodus. Surely it was a case of saving money by getting rid of dead wood. Off the top of my head and without ploughing through old line ups. Dixon went nearly 2 months before Reece James came in. When JR was injured, I thought we had all sorts filling in at LB. Ward and Hammill not being replaced left us short on backup on the wings. To bring Lolley on, Powell had to move Scannel to the left wing. In the 14 or so weeks between Stead leaving and Miller coming in, we had periods of only 1 fit first team striker. I thought that when Stead went we had Grant Holt come in before Miller?
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Post by duncfost01 on May 19, 2015 19:05:09 GMT 1
When Dean appointed Powell he said it was because he "over-achieved" at Charlton. This season actually turned out okay in the end. After a truly awful start we finished the season well and not in any danger. Powell got rid of loads of deadwood so hopefully the over -spending by Clark/Grayson has been addressed.
I think we will finish 12th with a brief flirtation with "over achieving". Our downfall will be the lack in depth and a still slightly dodgy defence.
I still think we should stay positive though, Rome, they tell me, wasn't built in a day. We are still very fortunate to have Dean. I mean Davy / fat stan isn't too long ago.....
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Post by Chips Longhorn on May 19, 2015 19:09:42 GMT 1
When Dean appointed Powell he said it was because he "over-achieved" at Charlton. This season actually turned out okay in the end. After a truly awful start we finished the season well and not in any danger. Powell got rid of loads of deadwood so hopefully the over -spending by Clark/Grayson has been addressed. I think we will finish 12th with a brief flirtation with "over achieving". Our downfall will be the lack in depth and a still slightly dodgy defence. I still think we should stay positive though, Rome, they tell me, wasn't built in a day. We are still very fortunate to have Dean. I mean Davy / fat stan isn't too long ago..... UTT 12th is overachieving mate !! Not out of the question though
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Post by Solid Snake on May 19, 2015 19:50:14 GMT 1
Somewhere between 5th and 20th
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Post by patfield on May 19, 2015 20:49:19 GMT 1
Hopefully play offs, realistically I think 12-16th
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Post by wtd on May 19, 2015 21:44:05 GMT 1
To play an entertaining and exciting brand of football... whatever the result.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 21:51:12 GMT 1
We weren't in the bottom 3 on 4th May - as it stands tables do not give you your placing. (The last time we actually were in the bottom 3 was 22nd September 2014) Dress it up how you want. We were a gnats chuff from relegation and in a relegation spot for a lot of the last game. A bit too close for my liking.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 21:57:33 GMT 1
Off the top of my head and without ploughing through old line ups. Dixon went nearly 2 months before Reece James came in. When JR was injured, I thought we had all sorts filling in at LB. Ward and Hammill not being replaced left us short on backup on the wings. To bring Lolley on, Powell had to move Scannel to the left wing. In the 14 or so weeks between Stead leaving and Miller coming in, we had periods of only 1 fit first team striker. I thought that when Stead went we had Grant Holt come in before Miller? Only the Christnas break. We didn't get Miller until February.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 21:59:32 GMT 1
I thought that when Stead went we had Grant Holt come in before Miller? Only the Christnas break. We didn't get Miller until February. Wasn't Vaughan and wells both fit by then?
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 22:03:26 GMT 1
The whole forum bows to your vastly superior knowledge oh wise one. Statistically our best football was from about games 15 to 35, where we peaked at 12th place. But as ever, you're right. Pillock. Typically aggressive... I was making a serious point... It's like me going on Tranmeres forum and having an opinion... Walter is spot on... We got rid of the dead wood and our best football came towards the end of the season But carry on
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 22:04:45 GMT 1
Only the Christnas break. We didn't get Miller until February. Wasn't Vaughan and wells both fit by then? Pretty sure I remember us only having one striker around that time, whether through suspension or injuries. I remember the comments at a time Stead was scoring for fun at Bradford.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 22:11:09 GMT 1
Wasn't Vaughan and wells both fit by then? Pretty sure I remember us only having one striker around that time, whether through suspension or injuries. I remember the comments at a time Stead was scoring for fun at Bradford. But as we saw here at Town, he didn't score for fun.
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on May 19, 2015 22:12:27 GMT 1
Wasn't Vaughan and wells both fit by then? Pretty sure I remember us only having one striker around that time, whether through suspension or injuries. I remember the comments at a time Stead was scoring for fun at Bradford. Marcus.... I think you are mistaken. Holt was injured at Rotherham on Dec 28th. From that game on Wells and Vaughan were fit and in the matchday 18 for every game including Miller's first appearance at Millwall on Feb 7th.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on May 19, 2015 22:14:28 GMT 1
Bored with your stats Marcus.. Stick em in the same bin as "assists" #nevergoes
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 22:18:30 GMT 1
When were we last in the bottom three 'when it counts the most'? May 4th 2013. Not last season or even the season before!! We were never in the bottom three even then when "it counts the most".. "It counts the most" at the final whistle of the final league match of the season, and NOT before.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on May 19, 2015 22:18:37 GMT 1
Pretty sure I remember us only having one striker around that time, whether through suspension or injuries. I remember the comments at a time Stead was scoring for fun at Bradford. But as we saw here at Town, he didn't score for fun. He sloathed around for fun.. You wouldn't know Marcus as you were sat on your fat arse in Kent agreeing with everything E4steviesmith says # nevergoes
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 22:20:18 GMT 1
Typically aggressive... I was making a serious point... It's like me going on Tranmeres forum and having an opinion... Walter is spot on... We got rid of the dead wood and our best football came towards the end of the season But carry on Just like his dislike of Beckford, who I suspect he never saw in a Town shirt and if he did he probably miscontrolled the ball once and his opinion was made and if he did see him, he wouldn't have had his current of Jermaine. Beckfords has never cut it at Championship level. 24 goals over 110 Championship appearances highlights that. He's a good League 1 striker, who had 3 good years with Leeds in League 1, got 8 Premier goals in 30 odd games, then went back to the Championship where he didn't set the world alight. I don't rate him at our level.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 22:26:09 GMT 1
Not last season or even the season before!! We were never in the bottom three even then when "it counts the most".. "It counts the most" at the final whistle of the final league match of the season, and NOT before. Get a grip. 2 years ago we were staring relegation in the face, as were Barnsley. Other results saved us. Pretending we've not been in the bottom 3 because the live table doesn't count, is a bit blinkered when relegation was THAT close. We were in the bottom three and facing relegation for much of the last game. It was more luck than judgement.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 22:51:19 GMT 1
Not last season or even the season before!! We were never in the bottom three even then when "it counts the most".. "It counts the most" at the final whistle of the final league match of the season, and NOT before. Get a grip. 2 years ago we were staring relegation in the face, as were Barnsley. Other results saved us. Pretending we've not been in the bottom 3 because the live table doesn't count, is a bit blinkered when relegation was THAT close. We were in the bottom three and facing relegation for much of the last game. It was more luck than judgement. Me get a grip? You're the one being melodramatic.
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on May 19, 2015 22:53:34 GMT 1
Not last season or even the season before!! We were never in the bottom three even then when "it counts the most".. "It counts the most" at the final whistle of the final league match of the season, and NOT before. Get a grip. 2 years ago we were staring relegation in the face, as were Barnsley. Other results saved us. Pretending we've not been in the bottom 3 because the live table doesn't count, is a bit blinkered when relegation was THAT close. We were in the bottom three and facing relegation for much of the last game. It was more luck than judgement.Judgement.... who the hell judges their league position ?? The fact remains if we'd have lost that final game - we wouldn't have been relegated. At times during it, events elsewhere may have transpired to relegate us similar to 2001 but thankfully goals from those crucial loan signings Jermaine Beckford andd James Vaughan ensured we did enough ourselves not to be concerned with other games that day, which as it turned out didn't go against us.
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Post by gledholt terrier on May 19, 2015 23:11:31 GMT 1
Get a grip. 2 years ago we were staring relegation in the face, as were Barnsley. Other results saved us. Pretending we've not been in the bottom 3 because the live table doesn't count, is a bit blinkered when relegation was THAT close. We were in the bottom three and facing relegation for much of the last game. It was more luck than judgement.Judgement.... who the hell judges their league position ?? The fact remains if we'd have lost that final game - we wouldn't have been relegated. At times during it, events elsewhere may have transpired to relegate us similar to 2001 but thankfully goals from those crucial loan signings Jermaine Beckford andd James Vaughan ensured we did enough ourselves not to be concerned with other games that day, which as it turned out didn't go against us. It was, without doubt, close. But in a highly unusual season in terms of points gained by the bottom clubs. However, Town had gained enough points to put themselves in a strong final day position. The original comment - not by Marcusd - was that we usually flirt with the bottom 3. Facts do not bear that out at all, and we simply haven't been in the bottom 3 that much throughout the past 3 seasons
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Post by EastCoastTerrier on May 20, 2015 0:43:05 GMT 1
Mid table is achieveable, top half over achieving, play offs unrealistic. People do realise other clubs are allowed to make signings too?
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Post by captainblack on May 20, 2015 6:07:41 GMT 1
I honestly believe we are gradually improving and I am looking forward to next season . I do think we need to strengthen in some areas, mainly defence. Some of the results we had against the teams in the top half of the table towards the end of the season were very encouraging . I am usually pretty positive and with the help of 2-3 new players think we could be hovering around the play off zone.
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Post by thomo on May 20, 2015 6:56:07 GMT 1
top ten finish with a brief flirtation with the playoffs 63 points Something like this for me perhaps with a few more points on the board come the end of the season. I hope the manager and players target the play offs and at least stay in the hunt for that final play off spot for most of the season. Better to aim as high as possible than for mediocrity.
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