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Post by Marshleeds on May 25, 2015 16:25:36 GMT 1
Similar debates on our boards , personally would have him back tomorrow at Leeds if the powers that be want it to be so. Big game player with a fantastic eye for goal as proved yesterday. Can you imagine Uwe being able to give it the " arm round the shoulder" treatment that Beckford obviously needs? Not sure about Rosler's Managerial style at all yet other than what I have seen on TV but relatively pleased and willing to give him a decent chance similar to most Leeds Fans I know.Would imagine Jermaine Beckford would be on many team's wish lists especially after yesterday.
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Post by shawsie on May 25, 2015 18:53:52 GMT 1
Can you imagine Uwe being able to give it the " arm round the shoulder" treatment that Beckford obviously needs? Not sure about Rosler's Managerial style at all yet other than what I have seen on TV but relatively pleased and willing to give him a decent chance similar to most Leeds Fans I know.Would imagine Jermaine Beckford would be on many team's wish lists especially after yesterday. Spot on marsh........needs revving up for the run of the mill fixtures, but has a great knack of doing it when it really matters. Hope he doesnt go to you lot......better than any of your current strikers imo and we want leeds to continue to revel deep below where their deluded part time fans think they should be!! Ps marsh - you have some great fans, but the most vocal are those who stopped going when peter reid took over and the gravy train ceased!
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on May 25, 2015 19:07:08 GMT 1
He'll stay with Grayson, he seems to get the best out if him. I'd love him back here but I have my reservations over him at this level.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on May 25, 2015 19:14:39 GMT 1
He'll stay with Grayson, he seems to get the best out if him. I'd love him back here but I have my reservations over him at this level. He will go where he gets most money Art.. Preston might not be able to match the highest bidder
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Post by gledholt terrier on May 25, 2015 19:15:54 GMT 1
Can you imagine Uwe being able to give it the " arm round the shoulder" treatment that Beckford obviously needs? Not sure about Rosler's Managerial style at all yet other than what I have seen on TV but relatively pleased and willing to give him a decent chance similar to most Leeds Fans I know.Would imagine Jermaine Beckford would be on many team's wish lists especially after yesterday. I wouldn't worry about Rosler at all. Everything else however...........
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on May 25, 2015 19:16:46 GMT 1
He'll stay with Grayson, he seems to get the best out if him. I'd love him back here but I have my reservations over him at this level. He will go where he gets most money Art.. Preston might not be able to match the highest bidder To be honest, it can't be about the brass at this stage of his career, he must be minted from the Leicester stint, there is only so much brass one man can have.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on May 25, 2015 19:17:45 GMT 1
He will go where he gets most money Art.. Preston might not be able to match the highest bidder To be honest, it can't be about the brass at this stage of his career, he must be minted from the Leicester stint, there is only so much brass one man can have. Is that how you really think footballers minds work ?
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on May 25, 2015 19:20:35 GMT 1
To be honest, it can't be about the brass at this stage of his career, he must be minted from the Leicester stint, there is only so much brass one man can have. Is that how you really think footballers minds work ? No, but that's how I'd think.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2015 19:36:59 GMT 1
He'll stay with Grayson, he seems to get the best out if him. I'd love him back here but I have my reservations over him at this level. Me too with the reservations. He set the world alight for 3 seasons at Leeds in League 1, a brief spell in the Premiership, then an uninspiring few years at Championship level and has found his level at League 1 again. During 3 years at Championship level with 3 clubs, he never scored into double figures. I used to joke about it but Danny Ward had a better record as a striker at our level, for Town.
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on May 25, 2015 19:47:47 GMT 1
He will go where he gets most money Art.. Preston might not be able to match the highest bidder To be honest, it can't be about the brass at this stage of his career, he must be minted from the Leicester stint, there is only so much brass one man can have. At this stage of his career, it's about his last big contract. His career has failed to reach its potential by choosing the best financial offer but not his bank account.
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Post by shawsie on May 25, 2015 19:50:05 GMT 1
He'll stay with Grayson, he seems to get the best out if him. I'd love him back here but I have my reservations over him at this level. Me too with the reservations. He set the world alight for 3 seasons at Leeds in League 1, a brief spell in the Premiership, then an uninspiring few years at Championship level and has found his level at League 1 again. During 3 years at Championship level with 3 clubs, he never scored into double figures. I used to joke about it but Danny Ward had a better record as a striker at our level, for Town. Beckford 8 in 21 Ward 10 in 38 I know which one id have!!!
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Post by Beech's Nuts on May 25, 2015 20:14:38 GMT 1
Me too with the reservations. He set the world alight for 3 seasons at Leeds in League 1, a brief spell in the Premiership, then an uninspiring few years at Championship level and has found his level at League 1 again. During 3 years at Championship level with 3 clubs, he never scored into double figures. I used to joke about it but Danny Ward had a better record as a striker at our level, for Town. Beckford 8 in 21 Ward 10 in 38 I know which one id have!!! For marcusd, Beckford's major flaw is that when he doesn't play he doesn't score!
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Post by Chips Longhorn on May 25, 2015 20:20:48 GMT 1
Danny Ward.... Goalscorer, assister, hard worker, athlete, .. ( And probably Bon viveur, raconteur and philanthropist ) ... And yet for all his amazing talents, backed up by his incredible stats... The only two clubs who came calling were Rotherham and Blackpool .. It's beyond belief
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Post by Headless Chicken on May 25, 2015 20:25:32 GMT 1
Danny Ward.... Goalscorer, assister, hard worker, athlete, .. ( And probably Bon viveur, raconteur and philanthropist ) ... And yet for all his amazing talents, backed up by his incredible stats... The only two clubs who came calling were Rotherham and Blackpool .. It's beyond belief You do realise both teams were in the division above the club that loaned Beckford
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Post by Chips Longhorn on May 25, 2015 20:38:29 GMT 1
Danny Ward.... Goalscorer, assister, hard worker, athlete, .. ( And probably Bon viveur, raconteur and philanthropist ) ... And yet for all his amazing talents, backed up by his incredible stats... The only two clubs who came calling were Rotherham and Blackpool .. It's beyond belief You do realise both teams were in the division above the club that loaned Beckford I bet Grayson is devastated he got the wrong man
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Post by Headless Chicken on May 25, 2015 21:39:54 GMT 1
You do realise both teams were in the division above the club that loaned Beckford I bet Grayson is devastated he got the wrong man Not debating which would be the better signing, just your actual argument didn't necessarily stack up. NB- do appreciate Bolton may have vetoed any transfer to Championship club
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Post by Chips Longhorn on May 25, 2015 21:55:06 GMT 1
I bet Grayson is devastated he got the wrong man Not debating which would be the better signing, just your actual argument didn't necessarily stack up. NB- do appreciate Bolton may have vetoed any transfer to Championship club Fact is .. he's a bit of a Prima Donna..he sulks he skulks he gets injured.. is he a 25 goal championship striker ? Well he hasn't been so far so not sure if he will be now at his age .. but he has more talent in his little toe than Danny Ward and he can be counted on to pop up at important times and do the business.. given the right amount of nurturing .. which SG has obviously got off to a t
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2015 21:59:11 GMT 1
Me too with the reservations. He set the world alight for 3 seasons at Leeds in League 1, a brief spell in the Premiership, then an uninspiring few years at Championship level and has found his level at League 1 again. During 3 years at Championship level with 3 clubs, he never scored into double figures. I used to joke about it but Danny Ward had a better record as a striker at our level, for Town. Beckford 8 in 21 Ward 10 in 38 I know which one id have!!! Beckford has never scored double figures higher than League 1 in any season. Over to you.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2015 22:03:40 GMT 1
Beckford 8 in 21 Ward 10 in 38 I know which one id have!!! For marcusd, Beckford's major flaw is that when he doesn't play he doesn't score! Irrelevant. For some reason, he doesn't score enough goals higher than League 1. Selected or not, injured or not, attitude problem or not, clubs still have to pay his wages. 8 or 9 goals a season does not justify his worth.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on May 25, 2015 22:05:11 GMT 1
Irrelevant .. it's irrelevant when he's injured ? You really are a strange operator
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Post by Sio on May 25, 2015 22:14:49 GMT 1
For marcusd, Beckford's major flaw is that when he doesn't play he doesn't score! Irrelevant. For some reason, he doesn't score enough goals higher than League 1. Selected or not, injured or not, attitude problem or not, clubs still have to pay his wages. 8 or 9 goals a season does not justify his worth. Lol injured or not. He would've easily scored double figures if he'd been fit more for us. Yes, it's ifs and buts, but you cannot deny the guys quality.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2015 22:23:35 GMT 1
Irrelevant .. it's irrelevant when he's injured ? You really are a strange operator Of course it is Rodney. Injury prone, dodgy attitude, poor fitness, whatever... His job is to score goals. He isn't paid per goal, he's paid per week. 8 or 9 goals does not justify a year's wages at his rate.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2015 22:25:58 GMT 1
Irrelevant. For some reason, he doesn't score enough goals higher than League 1. Selected or not, injured or not, attitude problem or not, clubs still have to pay his wages. 8 or 9 goals a season does not justify his worth. Lol injured or not. He would've easily scored double figures if he'd been fit more for us. Yes, it's ifs and buts, but you cannot deny the guys quality. He has never managed to reach double figures higher than League 1. Has he been injured every season then? Always an excuse from those still blinkered by his 3 good years in League 1. Quality or not, his job is to score goals. Something he's not great at above League 1.
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Post by Porrohman on May 25, 2015 22:34:09 GMT 1
Did he turn down your advances ? Did he shag your mum ? There must be a reason for this one man war of hate you've got against him.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2015 22:42:16 GMT 1
Did he turn down your advances ? Did he shag your mum ? There must be a reason for this one man war of hate you've got against him. Sent from my SM-G900F using proboards No, it's so simple that I can't see how even the mentally challenged can't work it out. His job is to score goals, a job for which he is paid more than others at his level. He scores considerably less goals than cheaper strikers at Championship level. Blame injury, non-selection, the weather, whatever you want, he offers far worse value than others. It's not rocket science FFS.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on May 25, 2015 22:50:01 GMT 1
Did he turn down your advances ? Did he shag your mum ? There must be a reason for this one man war of hate you've got against him. Sent from my SM-G900F using proboards No, it's so simple that I can't see how even the mentally challenged can't work it out. His job is to score goals, a job for which he is paid more than others at his level. He scores considerably less goals than cheaper strikers at Championship level. Blame injury, non-selection, the weather, whatever you want, he offers far worse value than others. It's not rocket science FFS. He scored some really valuable goals for us though, he got us the win at Wolves, did you go ? He's a clinical goal scorer.
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Post by shawsie on May 26, 2015 6:29:57 GMT 1
Did he turn down your advances ? Did he shag your mum ? There must be a reason for this one man war of hate you've got against him. Sent from my SM-G900F using proboards No, it's so simple that I can't see how even the mentally challenged can't work it out. His job is to score goals, a job for which he is paid more than others at his level. He scores considerably less goals than cheaper strikers at Championship level. Blame injury, non-selection, the weather, whatever you want, he offers far worse value than others. It's not rocket science FFS. His record is there for all to see Marcus....but you do blindly ignore he nearly got double figures at Everton in the prem and since then he's only come close to one full season in terms of games played due to injury and managerial changes. He divides opinions but I'd take him here to supplement what we have ahead of Danny ward.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2015 7:18:42 GMT 1
No, it's so simple that I can't see how even the mentally challenged can't work it out. His job is to score goals, a job for which he is paid more than others at his level. He scores considerably less goals than cheaper strikers at Championship level. Blame injury, non-selection, the weather, whatever you want, he offers far worse value than others. It's not rocket science FFS. His record is there for all to see Marcus....but you do blindly ignore he nearly got double figures at Everton in the prem and since then he's only come close to one full season in terms of games played due to injury and managerial changes. He divides opinions but I'd take him here to supplement what we have ahead of Danny ward. Marcus will say (As he has before) Beckford is to blame for not keeping himself fit. You really are wasting your time on this one.
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Post by Headless Chicken on May 26, 2015 7:56:07 GMT 1
Not debating which would be the better signing, just your actual argument didn't necessarily stack up. NB- do appreciate Bolton may have vetoed any transfer to Championship club Fact is .. he's a bit of a Prima Donna..he sulks he skulks he gets injured.. is he a 25 goal championship striker ? Well he hasn't been so far so not sure if he will be now at his age .. but he has more talent in his little toe than Danny Ward and he can be counted on to pop up at important times and do the business.. given the right amount of nurturing .. which SG has obviously got off to a t As I said, I was debating that......
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