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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2015 8:20:19 GMT 1
Not sure why Beckford is being compared to Ward here, different players, who played different roles.
Surely the logical comparison would be Beckford and Wells? As a mate of mine said to me as Wells missed yet another fairly straightforward goalscoring opportunity - "couldn't finish his dinner that lad".
And that's the difference between Wells and Beckford, the latter gets a sniff of a goal and he will more than likely take the opportunity, whereas Wells has a tendency to lose his composure. It's something that needs addressing with Nahki as it cost us last season, and to be fair the fans didn't get on his back about it - unlike the fat knacker that now plays for Rotherham.
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Post by richyhtfc on May 26, 2015 9:24:20 GMT 1
Not sure why Beckford is being compared to Ward here, different players, who played different roles. Surely the logical comparison would be Beckford and Wells? As a mate of mine said to me as Wells missed yet another fairly straightforward goalscoring opportunity - "couldn't finish his dinner that lad". And that's the difference between Wells and Beckford, the latter gets a sniff of a goal and he will more than likely take the opportunity, whereas Wells has a tendency to lose his composure. It's something that needs addressing with Nahki as it cost us last season, and to be fair the fans didn't get on his back about it - unlike the fat knacker that now plays for Rotherham. Beckford has done nothing in the championship, he failed. You comparing a lower league beckford stat to a higher league wells stat, wells in the lower league scored for fun. Wells is 24 beckford at 24 was playing for uxbridge fc.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2015 9:32:37 GMT 1
Not sure why Beckford is being compared to Ward here, different players, who played different roles. Surely the logical comparison would be Beckford and Wells? As a mate of mine said to me as Wells missed yet another fairly straightforward goalscoring opportunity - "couldn't finish his dinner that lad". And that's the difference between Wells and Beckford, the latter gets a sniff of a goal and he will more than likely take the opportunity, whereas Wells has a tendency to lose his composure. It's something that needs addressing with Nahki as it cost us last season, and to be fair the fans didn't get on his back about it - unlike the fat knacker that now plays for Rotherham. Beckford has done nothing in the championship, he failed. You comparing a lower league beckford stat to a higher league wells stat, wells in the lower league scored for fun. Wells is 24 beckford at 24 was playing for uxbridge fc. I haven't mentioned stats. I'm comparing the Beckford that played for us in the championship to the Wells that plays for us in the championship. Beckford was a key part in our 1st season survival at this level - "Failed", not a chance, we could well have been relegated without him. Wells has a little time on his side, but he needs to start finding some composure if he wants to go on and be regarded as a great player for us. He absolutely shat himself at Elland Road when the crowd got to him, you think Jermaine would do that?
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Post by richyhtfc on May 26, 2015 9:46:56 GMT 1
Beckford has done nothing in the championship, he failed. You comparing a lower league beckford stat to a higher league wells stat, wells in the lower league scored for fun. Wells is 24 beckford at 24 was playing for uxbridge fc. I haven't mentioned stats. I'm comparing the Beckford that played for us in the championship to the Wells that plays for us in the championship. Beckford was a key part in our 1st season survival at this level - "Failed", not a chance, we could well have been relegated without him. Wells has a little time on his side, but he needs to start finding some composure if he wants to go on and be regarded as a great player for us. He absolutely shat himself at Elland Road when the crowd got to him, you think Jermaine would do that? Not saying we did not need him, we did, just saying his recorded in the championship is not impressive. And yea of course beckford will handle pressure better he has more experience. Boith of them score goals for fun in the same league and both have not impressed in the championship. Only difference one has time to improve.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2015 9:59:45 GMT 1
No, it's so simple that I can't see how even the mentally challenged can't work it out. His job is to score goals, a job for which he is paid more than others at his level. He scores considerably less goals than cheaper strikers at Championship level. Blame injury, non-selection, the weather, whatever you want, he offers far worse value than others. It's not rocket science FFS. His record is there for all to see Marcus....but you do blindly ignore he nearly got double figures at Everton in the prem and since then he's only come close to one full season in terms of games played due to injury and managerial changes. He divides opinions but I'd take him here to supplement what we have ahead of Danny ward. I know and it's poor at Championship level. There's no doubt he's got talent but for whatever reason, injury record, fitness, attitude, can only play under Grayson, he doesn't justify his worth in my opinion. If we did sign him, I suspect I'd be as underwhelmed as I was until the last few weeks of his last stint with us.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2015 10:03:21 GMT 1
Beckford has done nothing in the championship, he failed. You comparing a lower league beckford stat to a higher league wells stat, wells in the lower league scored for fun. Wells is 24 beckford at 24 was playing for uxbridge fc. I haven't mentioned stats. I'm comparing the Beckford that played for us in the championship to the Wells that plays for us in the championship. Beckford was a key part in our 1st season survival at this level - "Failed", not a chance, we could well have been relegated without him. Wells has a little time on his side, but he needs to start finding some composure if he wants to go on and be regarded as a great player for us. He absolutely shat himself at Elland Road when the crowd got to him, you think Jermaine would do that? I don't see that logic. One of the main reasons we were in that position at the end of the season is that our star striker had produced sod all until the end of the season, mainly down to "injury" apparently. If we had a striker who was fit and got 10 goals by Christmas, we probably wouldn't have been fighting relegation come April.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on May 26, 2015 21:53:20 GMT 1
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Post by gledholt terrier on May 26, 2015 23:37:47 GMT 1
Another "silly English footballer cutting himself off". Oh to be around the Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk players.
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Post by Solid Snake on May 27, 2015 2:29:59 GMT 1
Beckford. A similar player to Afobe atm. Like Nick said, nasty to play against. Still as good as Afobe imo. The sort of forward that you'd want in your team. Someone that grafts, throws their weight around and got a good finish on them. I know it might upset a few but I personally would have Beckford over Wells.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2015 10:20:44 GMT 1
Beckford. A similar player to Afobe atm. Like Nick said, nasty to play against. Still as good as Afobe imo. The sort of forward that you'd want in your team. Someone that grafts, throws their weight around and got a good finish on them. I know it might upset a few but I personally would have Beckford over Wells. I thought he had a reputation of looking lazy and uninterested. I've never thought of him as a grafter tbh, but then I've only seen him in televised games for Town.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on May 27, 2015 19:10:18 GMT 1
Beckford. A similar player to Afobe atm. Like Nick said, nasty to play against. Still as good as Afobe imo. The sort of forward that you'd want in your team. Someone that grafts, throws their weight around and got a good finish on them. I know it might upset a few but I personally would have Beckford over Wells. I thought he had a reputation of looking lazy and uninterested. I've never thought of him as a grafter tbh, but then I've only seen him in televised games for Town. You really should of seen him in a live game to be able to comment so much imo.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2015 19:14:40 GMT 1
Beckford. A similar player to Afobe atm. Like Nick said, nasty to play against. Still as good as Afobe imo. The sort of forward that you'd want in your team. Someone that grafts, throws their weight around and got a good finish on them. I know it might upset a few but I personally would have Beckford over Wells. I thought he had a reputation of looking lazy and uninterested. I've never thought of him as a grafter tbh, but then I've only seen him in televised games for Town. So after all your criticism of the guy when he played for us you only saw 2 maybe 3 of his games? This is laughable even by your standards.
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Post by shawsie on May 27, 2015 20:54:51 GMT 1
Beckford has done nothing in the championship, he failed. You comparing a lower league beckford stat to a higher league wells stat, wells in the lower league scored for fun. Wells is 24 beckford at 24 was playing for uxbridge fc. I haven't mentioned stats. I'm comparing the Beckford that played for us in the championship to the Wells that plays for us in the championship. Beckford was a key part in our 1st season survival at this level - "Failed", not a chance, we could well have been relegated without him. Wells has a little time on his side, but he needs to start finding some composure if he wants to go on and be regarded as a great player for us. He absolutely shat himself at Elland Road when the crowd got to him, you think Jermaine would do that? Disagree re wells graham....has composure IMO, but at times is mentally fragile and needs to form a partnership with someone - never had one here for any length of time and it's dented his confidence IMO. Regrettably I fear that the partner he seeks may be vokes at burnley!!!
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2015 22:55:31 GMT 1
I thought he had a reputation of looking lazy and uninterested. I've never thought of him as a grafter tbh, but then I've only seen him in televised games for Town. You really should of seen him in a live game to be able to comment so much imo. Why? Does he score more Championship goals than the media and stats show if you actually attend?! Bastards! I always thought he couldn't score into double figures at Championship level, clearly I've been lied to. So, how many League goals did he score for Town, was it 8
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2015 22:58:51 GMT 1
I thought he had a reputation of looking lazy and uninterested. I've never thought of him as a grafter tbh, but then I've only seen him in televised games for Town. So after all your criticism of the guy when he played for us you only saw 2 maybe 3 of his games? This is laughable even by your standards. Yeah, because he clearly scores more than the stats show if you watch him in person. Plonker. Never hit double figures ever, higher than League 1. It's not rocket science, have a think. Laughable even by your deluded standards.
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Post by Solid Snake on May 28, 2015 2:54:42 GMT 1
Wells needs to develop that sort of aggressive and physical edge to himself if he is to become as good as Vaughan, Beckford or Afobe.
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Post by philincalifornia on May 28, 2015 3:53:46 GMT 1
Beckford. A similar player to Afobe atm. Like Nick said, nasty to play against. Still as good as Afobe imo. The sort of forward that you'd want in your team. Someone that grafts, throws their weight around and got a good finish on them. I know it might upset a few but I personally would have Beckford over Wells. I thought he had a reputation of looking lazy and uninterested. I've never thought of him as a grafter tbh, but then I've only seen him in televised games for Town. I only saw him play for Town in that one game against Wolves where he was majestic. I couldn't believe how much he grafted, chasing no-hoper balls even. I'll risk the wrath of Slapps even by saying he put in more graft that J. Worthington, which is saying something.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on May 28, 2015 7:49:12 GMT 1
You really should of seen him in a live game to be able to comment so much imo. Why? Does he score more Championship goals than the media and stats show if you actually attend?! Bastards! I always thought he couldn't score into double figures at Championship level, clearly I've been lied to. So, how many League goals did he score for Town, was it 8 Do you get to some Town games mate ?
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2015 8:51:57 GMT 1
Why? Does he score more Championship goals than the media and stats show if you actually attend?! Bastards! I always thought he couldn't score into double figures at Championship level, clearly I've been lied to. So, how many League goals did he score for Town, was it 8 Do you get to some Town games mate ? Stop prodding him Nick, he seems to have a lot of pent up anger.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2015 16:51:05 GMT 1
Signed 2-year contract at PNE
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Post by Headless Chicken on Jun 8, 2015 20:38:07 GMT 1
I thought he had a reputation of looking lazy and uninterested. I've never thought of him as a grafter tbh, but then I've only seen him in televised games for Town. You really should of seen him in a live game to be able to comment so much imo. In all fairness, Solid Snake isn't describing the Beckford I know; I don't think he's remotely like Afobe.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2015 21:30:54 GMT 1
Signed 2-year contract at PNE Let's see if he can ever produce double figures at Championship level then? Make or break season really.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jun 8, 2015 21:52:41 GMT 1
Signed 2-year contract at PNE Let's see if he can ever produce double figures at Championship level then? Make or break season really. In what way is it "make or break " ? He's had a good career I'm sure he cares not a jot about your opinion
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Jun 8, 2015 22:13:46 GMT 1
Signed 2-year contract at PNE Let's see if he can ever produce double figures at Championship level then? Make or break season really. He will do, proven quality goal scorer .
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2015 22:31:30 GMT 1
Let's see if he can ever produce double figures at Championship level then? Make or break season really. In what way is it "make or break " ? He's had a good career I'm sure he cares not a jot about your opinion Surely if he produces less than ten league goals again, even people like you, who have him in your w4nk bank, will realise he's vastly overrated? .... Probably not...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2015 22:32:25 GMT 1
Let's see if he can ever produce double figures at Championship level then? Make or break season really. He will do, proven quality goal scorer . No he's not. Never hit double figures for League goals higher than League 1.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Jun 8, 2015 22:43:00 GMT 1
He will do, proven quality goal scorer . No he's not. Never hit double figures for League goals higher than League 1. Ok Marcus, let's see next season.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2015 22:55:25 GMT 1
No he's not. Never hit double figures for League goals higher than League 1. Ok Marcus, let's see next season. Hence "make or break".
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Jun 9, 2015 6:35:29 GMT 1
Ok Marcus, let's see next season. Hence "make or break". He's been a success all through his career ??
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jun 9, 2015 7:27:16 GMT 1
In what way is it "make or break " ? He's had a good career I'm sure he cares not a jot about your opinion Surely if he produces less than ten league goals again, even people like you, who have him in your w4nk bank, will realise he's vastly overrated? .... Probably not... I think you are too busy trying to polarise everything that you don't actually read what people say ... Where have I said that Beckford was an amazing player ? All I've done is recognise the contribution he's made at town ... And extol some of his obvious qualities...in my opinion there have been some " demons" in his career which have prevented him consistently playing to his potential ... I'd include injury in that... How else can you explain his damp squib spells at Leicester and Bolton. ? He obviously needs managing a certain way ... But when he's " on it " he is EASILY championship quality.... Look at the class of some of his goals for Preston .... Can you not acknowledge that ? Do you honestly think he wouldn't have done that if the defenders had been championship ? He did the same for us... Was in and out... Partly through injuries... But by god when we were deep in the shit he rose to the surface and produced the goods through his sheer class... You can produce all the stats you want but I was there and saw it with my own eyes... So it's time to give it a rest... and other datmers including me should just ignore you cos you obviously derive some perverse pleasure from spouting all this crap
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