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Post by galpharm2400 on Jul 3, 2015 14:51:50 GMT 1
bilo,,thats the better offer than stead was looking for.. said before as I am having trouble educating pork, I gave up...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2015 16:18:55 GMT 1
But those "oh, a few hundred more" fans meant that you averaged more in terms of averages - isn't that the sole pointer of discussion - or are you doing what typical and convenient for a pup and moving goalpost when suiting fit? You ramble on about our ST's being £149, and right you are - but you fail to take into consideration that we've sold 700 tickets in the Bantams Bar - and a further 800 tickets in the Suites in the main stand at £110 more. So that's 1,500 tickets (minimum) at £259....cheap? Right you are. We do sell out all 17 boxes annually at just over £10,000 per season, but again, in stark reality we do give those away too....but that's just between me and you! Shhh! Thing is, we can all troll back through history and pick out a year where a club averaged X amount (like when you averaged 3,600 in 1989), but its all about what counts currently. Try not to worry about the free U11 handouts, I'm sure all 1,500 of them will thoroughly enjoy their outing alongside their full paying parent, and whilst football clubs in general rely heavily on success to build support (of which you'll only really encounter in the Prem - so the latter will apply to the minority), clubs outside of the Premier League will still charge ridiculous amounts of moula to entice new supporters to come and watch their stagnating team. What a fanatic incentive. Now, take a step back and evaluate that for just one moment, and think again the next time you mock a league club for making football affordable. Basically what you've just said their is rubbish and we're not mocking you for making it affordable. We are mocking you're supporters, or some of them for seeing it as an excuse to say, oh look we get fantastic crowd and we're only in league 1. The amount youre bringing in throught the turnstiles must be no more than your average league 1 team, which means you miss out on players such as Jon Stead to leage 2 Notts County. Oh and we averaged 5821 and 5630 in 88-89 and 89-90 (only took me 30 seconds to look that up) so don't know where you got your 3600 from. Making things up again, I presume. Not really worth debating if you're gonna do that. And just one final thing, which I think will end the debate and bring this to a conclusion, you say that we conveniently forget that we ge t higher away followings. Ok, yes we do, between 700-900. Can you now conveniently remember that your crowds are bolstered by very cheap season tickets. If you can do that, that's it, end of debate. We both agree. I'm sure the 1500 or whatever flexi cards that were sold, and counted as attending whether there or not, made up for the lack of championship away crowds. All smoke and mirrors to try and desperately look relevant in the grand scheme of things...
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Post by queenybantam07 on Jul 3, 2015 20:55:01 GMT 1
Basically what you've just said their is rubbish and we're not mocking you for making it affordable. We are mocking you're supporters, or some of them for seeing it as an excuse to say, oh look we get fantastic crowd and we're only in league 1. The amount youre bringing in throught the turnstiles must be no more than your average league 1 team, which means you miss out on players such as Jon Stead to leage 2 Notts County. Oh and we averaged 5821 and 5630 in 88-89 and 89-90 (only took me 30 seconds to look that up) so don't know where you got your 3600 from. Making things up again, I presume. Not really worth debating if you're gonna do that. And just one final thing, which I think will end the debate and bring this to a conclusion, you say that we conveniently forget that we ge t higher away followings. Ok, yes we do, between 700-900. Can you now conveniently remember that your crowds are bolstered by very cheap season tickets. If you can do that, that's it, end of debate. We both agree. I'm sure the 1500 or whatever flexi cards that were sold, and counted as attending whether there or not, made up for the lack of championship away crowds. All smoke and mirrors to try and desperately look relevant in the grand scheme of things... There was just under 4,000 fans paying in on the gate last season. In addition, we stopped counting ST holders into the attendance back in the 11/12 season. Our crowds are true to numeric number.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2015 7:38:15 GMT 1
green eyed monsters
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Post by terrierng on Jul 4, 2015 8:13:09 GMT 1
Not at all,i like the model you have chosen and wish more clubs would follow it,this would bring wage demands down and clubs like ours would be able to compete better.....however even selling 16k you couldn't meet jon steads wages,he was only on a couple of grand with us too, cant see him being over greedy or Notts breaking the bank for him,selling that ammount is great for the atmosphere but in this age of football it will do you no good and eventually you will have to raise them if you want to progress,unfortunately cheap tickets,however noble the idea,wont pay the wage bill.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2015 8:17:45 GMT 1
Not at all,i like the model you have chosen and wish more clubs would follow it,this would bring wage demands down and clubs like ours would be able to compete better.....however even selling 16k you couldn't meet jon steads wages,he was only on a couple of grand with us too, cant see him being over greedy or Notts breaking the bank for him,selling that ammount is great for the atmosphere but in this age of football it will do you no good and eventually you will have to raise them if you want to progress,unfortunately cheap tickets,however noble the idea,wont pay the wage bill. your all obcessed with bradford city, leeds united, and sheffield wednesday . and why you may ask ...because there all bigger clubs with bigger fan base than you lot.
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Post by terrierng on Jul 4, 2015 8:27:28 GMT 1
Not at all,i like the model you have chosen and wish more clubs would follow it,this would bring wage demands down and clubs like ours would be able to compete better.....however even selling 16k you couldn't meet jon steads wages,he was only on a couple of grand with us too, cant see him being over greedy or Notts breaking the bank for him,selling that ammount is great for the atmosphere but in this age of football it will do you no good and eventually you will have to raise them if you want to progress,unfortunately cheap tickets,however noble the idea,wont pay the wage bill. your all obcessed with bradford city, leeds united, and sheffield wednesday . and why you may ask ...because there all bigger clubs with bigger fan base than you lot. Yet your on our board you fucking mong....try to give you a reasonable response but your level of intellect wont allow it you inbred fuckwit,its spelt obsessed too you thick Bradford fuck.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2015 8:36:51 GMT 1
17,000 and counting
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Post by Mecha Corte on Jul 4, 2015 8:49:48 GMT 1
your all obcessed with bradford city, leeds united, and sheffield wednesday . and why you may ask ...because there all bigger clubs with bigger fan base than you lot. Yet your on our board you fucking mong....try to give you a reasonable response but your level of intellect wont allow it you inbred fuckwit,its spelt obsessed too you thick Bradford fuck. When all the small chickens turn up on here to boast how BIG they are and how shite and small HTFC are they seem to forget that in 2008 to mark our 100th anniversary we sold cheap season tickets, over 17,000. End of argument ? PS most of our league games that season had crowds of less than 17,000. End of argument, part 2 ? The fact is, nobody on planet earth can look me in the eye and say over the last 100 and odd years that the small chickens can be argued to be bigger and better than HTFC because for 90% of that time we've been above them in league placings and level of home and away support.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2015 9:04:18 GMT 1
Yet your on our board you fucking mong....try to give you a reasonable response but your level of intellect wont allow it you inbred fuckwit,its spelt obsessed too you thick Bradford fuck. When all the small chickens turn up on here to boast how BIG they are and how shite and small HTFC are they seem to forget that in 2008 to mark our 100th anniversary we sold cheap season tickets, over 17,000. End of argument ? PS most of our league games that season had crowds of less than 17,000. End of argument, part 2 ? The fact is, nobody on planet earth can look me in the eye and say over the last 100 and odd years that the small chickens can be argued to be bigger and better than HTFC because for 90% of that time we've been above them in league placings and level of home and away support. where are they all now lad?
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Post by garyroberts'leftfoot on Jul 4, 2015 9:19:38 GMT 1
Nottinghams a nice city. Some great historic places ( pubs) , a great city centre , the trent, handy tram system. All In all Ive always found it a pretty good place as cities go. Whereas bradford is a right scruffy shit hole. Seems like a better offer to me for Steady. Bradford is closer to Honley though. Probably more important for stead.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2015 9:35:59 GMT 1
Can we just stop replying to this thread. I know I have, but its getting painful to read now. The 2 Bradford fans are showing themselves up to be biased, on the wind up or just plain thick.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jul 4, 2015 9:44:36 GMT 1
Who gives a shit about Bradford's season ticket sales? When we did a similar offer we sold about 17k, not that everyone showed up each game, the difference is Bradford will count the no shows in the attendance, whereas we didnt.
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Post by Headless Chicken on Jul 4, 2015 10:04:56 GMT 1
Not at all,i like the model you have chosen and wish more clubs would follow it,this would bring wage demands down and clubs like ours would be able to compete better.....however even selling 16k you couldn't meet jon steads wages,he was only on a couple of grand with us too, cant see him being over greedy or Notts breaking the bank for him,selling that ammount is great for the atmosphere but in this age of football it will do you no good and eventually you will have to raise them if you want to progress,unfortunately cheap tickets,however noble the idea,wont pay the wage bill. your all obcessed with bradford city, leeds united, and sheffield wednesday . and why you may ask ...because there all bigger clubs with bigger fan base than you lot. You get a sensible response and then come out with this inane rubbish.
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Post by wtd on Jul 4, 2015 10:11:10 GMT 1
Yeah, but that's one of your lot counting.
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Post by Mecha Corte on Jul 4, 2015 10:50:44 GMT 1
When all the small chickens turn up on here to boast how BIG they are and how shite and small HTFC are they seem to forget that in 2008 to mark our 100th anniversary we sold cheap season tickets, over 17,000. End of argument ? PS most of our league games that season had crowds of less than 17,000. End of argument, part 2 ? The fact is, nobody on planet earth can look me in the eye and say over the last 100 and odd years that the small chickens can be argued to be bigger and better than HTFC because for 90% of that time we've been above them in league placings and level of home and away support. where are they all now lad? Lad ? I'm 52, so you're either in your 90s or a small chicken version of Moaner. As to where they all are I'm not sure, our highest ever home crowd was 67,000 our lowest under 2,000 so I guess were somewhere in between, as for the mighty Bradford City will you be relocating to Wembley for the next 2 or 3 seasons to redevelop the Pennine Radio, Coral Windows in Association with Flamingo Land Stadium to accommodate the 100,000 season ticket holders you expect to have shortly ? And will they get reduced admission for FA Cup round 1 and Johnstones Paint Trophy games or just the 3rd tier league games ?
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Post by Cole on Jul 4, 2015 11:21:22 GMT 1
I think Bradford are more obsessed with us than we are with Leeds. Christ lads, don't let your blood pressure get too high trying to ram these season tickets down our throats. That's like me buying 20 freddos from poundland and comparing it to your Saturday night curry because 'we have more'. Quality not Quantity my friends.
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Post by Captainslapper on Jul 4, 2015 11:24:31 GMT 1
I'm sure the 1500 or whatever flexi cards that were sold, and counted as attending whether there or not, made up for the lack of championship away crowds. All smoke and mirrors to try and desperately look relevant in the grand scheme of things... There was just under 4,000 fans paying in on the gate last season. In addition, we stopped counting ST holders into the attendance back in the 11/12 season. Our crowds are true to numeric number. Thats bullshit. Simply not true at all.
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Post by Captainslapper on Jul 4, 2015 11:26:31 GMT 1
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Post by Henry Mcgee on Jul 4, 2015 12:04:19 GMT 1
I'm sure the 1500 or whatever flexi cards that were sold, and counted as attending whether there or not, made up for the lack of championship away crowds. All smoke and mirrors to try and desperately look relevant in the grand scheme of things... There was just under 4,000 fans paying in on the gate last season. In addition, we stopped counting ST holders into the attendance back in the 11/12 season. Our crowds are true to numeric number. What other sort of numbers are there?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2015 12:26:31 GMT 1
Nottinghams a nice city. Some great historic places ( pubs) , a great city centre , the trent, handy tram system. All In all Ive always found it a pretty good place as cities go. Whereas bradford is a right scruffy shit hole. Seems like a better offer to me for Steady. Bradford is closer to Honley though. Probably more important for stead. you aint seen fartown then lad ... dullersfield shithole
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2015 12:28:44 GMT 1
Think it's time we adapted this song for Bradford next year: They took a quarter of a million to Villa Park...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2015 12:29:50 GMT 1
They got 97,000 against Rochdale
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2015 12:30:06 GMT 1
They fit 45,000 into half a ground
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2015 12:31:03 GMT 1
Their club legends are Town rejects
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2015 12:37:08 GMT 1
They got arseholed 5-0 in their biggest match
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2015 12:37:18 GMT 1
FA Cup legends in midtable
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2015 12:56:43 GMT 1
Who gives a shit about Bradford's season ticket sales? When we did a similar offer we sold about 17k, not that everyone showed up each game, the difference is Bradford will count the no shows in the attendance, whereas we didnt. you lot are thats for sure...
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Post by gabbyjohnson on Jul 4, 2015 15:06:26 GMT 1
you lot are thats for sure... You're a bit of an embarrassment. You should probably stop posting.
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Post by gabbyjohnson on Jul 4, 2015 15:09:59 GMT 1
There was just under 4,000 fans paying in on the gate last season. In addition, we stopped counting ST holders into the attendance back in the 11/12 season. Our crowds are true to numeric number. I'm pretty sure we still count season tickets in the attendance as, technically, they have bought a ticket. I believe it's the flexi cards that aren't counted in the official attendance figure as they still need to buy a ticket for each match.
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