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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Jul 3, 2015 20:50:22 GMT 1
At least Leeds are stuffing the Saints
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Post by Porrohman on Jul 3, 2015 20:54:32 GMT 1
At least Leeds are stuffing the Saints Yorkshire Yorkshire Doesn't make up for what the Wankys are doing to us at a proper sport Sent from my SM-G900F using proboards
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Post by Mr Breitside on Jul 3, 2015 21:20:13 GMT 1
A lot of people are suggesting we might or should spend the money on a quality centre half.
IMO the club will not pay transfer fees for any defenders, they see midfielders and strikers as more likely to be sold for a profit so that is where they will spend what money we have.
How many defenders or goalkeepers have we paid a transfer fee for since Dean Hoyle took over ?
Not criticising just how it looks to me.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2015 21:21:05 GMT 1
So.... is he on the way out? Can we live without him? He's overrated, great deal for us
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2015 21:23:47 GMT 1
I have to be honest I'm getting a little peeved with the way the club keep selling our better players, which Conor clearly is. Is it just me that thinks it's time we started building a squad keeping our better players and adding 1 or 2 each season to improve us slightly further? IMO this is the only way we are going to make proper strides forward. If we get towards the playoffs the attendances will increase allowing us to buy even better players. Maybe then we could do a Blackpool or Burnley and sneak a promotion which lets be honest is what everyone of us fans want. The amount of money we would likely need to spend to achieve this would far outweigh the slightly better attendance With Barry Rubery's cash the season we finished 8th, attendances weren't all that much better
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Post by kennyk2 on Jul 3, 2015 21:35:28 GMT 1
Really don't know why there is so much condemnation on this board. It's the 3rd July not the 3rd August!!!!! Lot's of time to sign more players and do you not think Powell knows we need a CH? Finally, a bit sorry to see Conor go but hands up on this board who at the end of last season valued him at 2 million11-Certainly not me. Deano doesn't usually let us down. There must be plenty of scope to bring some players in considering the numbers that have left since January.... We have barely enough for 11 and a bench at the moment.... plus the 2 million from Coady. I wonder if we are about to break our transfer records this summer. Sorry to be an ar*e-licker, but I don't think he's ever let us down.
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Post by townrwe on Jul 3, 2015 21:48:09 GMT 1
Deano doesn't usually let us down. There must be plenty of scope to bring some players in considering the numbers that have left since January.... We have barely enough for 11 and a bench at the moment.... plus the 2 million from Coady. I wonder if we are about to break our transfer records this summer. Sorry to be an ar*e-licker, but I don't think he's ever let us down. Not intentionally.... We signed some right dross early years, recently we have been much better actually, who was the last real fuck up we signed? Can't think of one in the championship
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Post by Syran on Jul 3, 2015 21:51:41 GMT 1
Ryan woods... Perfect replacement.
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Post by John Smith on Jul 3, 2015 21:53:13 GMT 1
I may well be in a minority, I may well be proven wrong over time, but I'm not fussed Coady has gone, and if it's for anything like £2m I think we've done very well.
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Jul 3, 2015 21:56:47 GMT 1
Ryan woods... Perfect replacement. Agree.....see my thread about him "scouting tip.....Ryan Woods" I think from way back in November. I know for certain Town have been monitoring him.
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Post by kennyk2 on Jul 3, 2015 22:00:33 GMT 1
Sorry to be an ar*e-licker, but I don't think he's ever let us down. Not intentionally.... We signed some right dross early years, recently we have been much better actually, who was the last real fuck up we signed? Can't think of one in the championship Aye, nice to see he's learning from earlier mistakes - all you can ask for eh?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2015 22:02:13 GMT 1
Sorry to be an ar*e-licker, but I don't think he's ever let us down. Not intentionally.... We signed some right dross early years, recently we have been much better actually, who was the last real fuck up we signed? Can't think of one in the championship That was more naivety from Dean, it was Clarks fault
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2015 22:02:52 GMT 1
I may well be in a minority, I may well be proven wrong over time, but I'm not fussed Coady has gone, and if it's for anything like £2m I think we've done very well. I'm with you old boy
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Post by kennyk2 on Jul 3, 2015 22:07:18 GMT 1
Shit! I've just realised that November's a write-off on the HTFC calendar.
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Post by Porrohman on Jul 3, 2015 22:18:57 GMT 1
Shit! I've just realised that November's a write-off on the HTFC calendar. And some of the promo piccies for the away kit Sent from my SM-G900F using proboards
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2015 22:46:39 GMT 1
Can't be bothered trawling through 13 pages to pick up the usual extreme views, good sale, bad sale etc.
The biggest disappointment of this thread is realising that things like twitter have made agents even more unashamed and arrogant. Sad thing that kid will have more money than I'll ever have in ten lifetimes for being nowt more than a loud mouthed schadenfreude... Please don't take that as me being envious, just dislike that we've created a society of talentless hangers on...
Twitter pic Aug 2014, Jul 2015, can't blame the players for having their heads turned...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2015 22:53:23 GMT 1
Can't be bothered trawling through 13 pages to pick up the usual extreme views, good sale, bad sale etc. The biggest disappointment of this thread is realising that things like twitter have made agents even more unashamed and arrogant. Sad thing that kid will have more money than I'll ever have in ten lifetimes for being nowt more than a loud mouthed schadenfreude... Please don't take that as me being envious, just dislike that we've created a society of talentless hangers on... Twitter pic Aug 2014, Jul 2015, can't blame the players for having their heads turned... Agents - poisonous, relatively unnecessary & have leeched millions from sport... Best post of the 13 pages. Are these players really too daft to sort deals out for themselves? If I was a professional footballer, which I really should be given my ability, I'd want to do it all myself and not have some sponger profiteering from my achievements
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Post by H7 on Jul 3, 2015 22:56:25 GMT 1
Well at least that bizarre own goal at home against Wolves makes sense now
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Post by richhtfc on Jul 3, 2015 23:19:25 GMT 1
Every time we do a deal like this it's a balancing act between what the player can do for us (within the constraints of their contract) and what the money (profit) can do for us. This looks like a great bit of a business, particularly in light of the Whitehead signing. We're receiving 5 times what we paid for a player after a years decent if unspectacular service and we already have a replacement, can't see how that's not a net gain for us.
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Post by terrier25 on Jul 3, 2015 23:52:00 GMT 1
There weren't any threads on here last season saying what a star performer Coady was. He's a good player but totally replaceable. Last summer we sold two midfielders for nuff dollars and replaced them at a fraction of those dollars with Butterfield (one of the best players in the division) and Coady (who people are now losing sleep over) and we had a better team as a result. I'd settle for exactly the same again, every summer.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2015 0:06:01 GMT 1
A lot of people are suggesting we might or should spend the money on a quality centre half. IMO the club will not pay transfer fees for any defenders, they see midfielders and strikers as more likely to be sold for a profit so that is where they will spend what money we have. How many defenders or goalkeepers have we paid a transfer fee for since Dean Hoyle took over ? Not criticising just how it looks to me. We've already spent the transfer fee.
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Post by Big Ern on Jul 4, 2015 0:45:39 GMT 1
If this sale was done due to Wolves triggering a sell on clause as Tog suggested then does that mean we won't have been able to add a sell on fee? If not that will be disappointing.
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Post by upthetown on Jul 4, 2015 2:31:50 GMT 1
If ever a face said "are you sure I'm the right man to be modelling this shirt?".... #tobeseen (or not)
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Post by kaykie on Jul 4, 2015 7:17:50 GMT 1
Can't be bothered trawling through 13 pages to pick up the usual extreme views, good sale, bad sale etc. The biggest disappointment of this thread is realising that things like twitter have made agents even more unashamed and arrogant. Sad thing that kid will have more money than I'll ever have in ten lifetimes for being nowt more than a loud mouthed schadenfreude... Please don't take that as me being envious, just dislike that we've created a society of talentless hangers on... Twitter pic Aug 2014, Jul 2015, can't blame the players for having their heads turned... Agents - poisonous, relatively unnecessary & have leeched millions from sport... Best post of the 13 pages. Are these players really too daft to sort deals out for themselves? If I was a professional footballer, which I really should be given my ability, I'd want to do it all myself and not have some sponger profiteering from my achievements Paul Scholes was a prime example of this
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Jul 4, 2015 8:36:25 GMT 1
If ever a face said "are you sure I'm the right man to be modelling this shirt?".... #tobeseen (or not) The club need to remove his photos in new shirt FFs.
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Post by fredcarno1 on Jul 4, 2015 9:13:38 GMT 1
I'm hoping we aren't seeing Whitehead as Coadys replacement as otherwise the business model of buying young talent and selling them on for a profit is floored. ie Whitehead will give us a couple of seasons and move on for nothing.
I would hope Coadys replacement is still being sought from the lower leagues or possibly a premier league reserve side !!
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Post by theravymoomin on Jul 4, 2015 9:55:11 GMT 1
I don't see how people can see whitehead as a replacement for Coady, a 30 odd year old kind of been there done that sort of player, for a 22 year old with potential. Although I agree 2 million is a great price for us, I would like to see another midfielder come in, to play alongside butter field who I personally think is our best player. Any suggestions on midfielders possibly on our radar?
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Jul 4, 2015 10:20:44 GMT 1
Wonder what role Webber played in the deal? Wolves claim they tracked Coady for a long period so it must have been Webber doing the tracking - then the first major deal that Webber is involved in - Coady goes to Wolves. Wonder if he found out about the release clause (if there was one) and - brought the two parties together! Are release clauses common knowledge through the football industry? Would Town know the release clauses on all the players in the Championship / Div 1 etc ?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2015 10:29:02 GMT 1
I'm hoping we aren't seeing Whitehead as Coadys replacement as otherwise the business model of buying young talent and selling them on for a profit is floored. ie Whitehead will give us a couple of seasons and move on for nothing. I would hope Coadys replacement is still being sought from the lower leagues or possibly a premier league reserve side !! I would hope Coadys replacement(s) was playing in the u21s last season, and Whitehead provides an 18 month opportunity to gradually bring them into the first team set up. The business model is not flawed, and in fact it makes incredible sense and is a possibly a perfect example of 'pathways' in action. If Coady stayed, we'd end up releasing a couple of Billing, Tronstad and the other one for no fee in 12 and 24 months. Coady goes for £2m, we've got an experienced player in, and the likelihood is we've got another future £2m player popping out of the academy/u21 set up in bit part form this season and becoming established next season.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2015 10:34:38 GMT 1
I think this a great deal for Town. I didn't mind Coady, he had a few good games for us but I never saw him as fixture of the team that a lot of others seemed to. I valued Hogg and Butterfield to us a lot more last season. I thought in the most part Coady was average and his ball watching/lack of pressing the opposition was quite infuriating at times. The lad does have potential though. I see no reason why he can't go onto better things but at this stage of his development, this represents fantastic business from Town. If you look at it this way, he has gone for 5 times the fee we paid for him and there's no way he is 5 times the player he was when he arrived. If he was then I'd be gutted. Hopefully the money we receive from this transfer will be reinvested in the playing department to make the team, as whole, stronger.
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