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Post by davidpgowinghtafc on Jul 4, 2015 17:26:08 GMT 1
I know we are a selling club and we just have to live with it.
However, I am most unhappy when we sell to clubs in our division, it's OK to clubs either above or below us but it often comes back to bite us with teams in our division.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Jul 4, 2015 17:29:26 GMT 1
I agree, whateva some say on here it's poor to sell such a talented young midfielder to a rival.
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Post by ritchie on Jul 4, 2015 17:31:32 GMT 1
Did we have a choice?
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jul 4, 2015 17:32:20 GMT 1
I agree, whateva some say on here it's poor to sell such a talented young midfielder to a rival. Do you get the concept of release clauses nick ? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2015 17:35:52 GMT 1
He wanted the move, we got a fair price for him, move on.
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Post by nicovaesen on Jul 4, 2015 17:36:07 GMT 1
Still sucks though! Wonder if we get anything out of a future sell on if he fulfills his potential?
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Post by ritchie on Jul 4, 2015 17:41:50 GMT 1
Im not even convinced there was a release clause (though we often have a gentleman's agreement that we will let them go if a decent bid comes) as i think the club would have stated that (appeases the fans somewhat) i just think it was like rhodes he wanted the move so we just had to get an acceptable fee.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jul 4, 2015 17:47:17 GMT 1
I agree, whateva some say on here it's poor to sell such a talented young midfielder to a rival. It's funny you should say that, just flicking through the Hull starting 11 thread & you don't have Coady down as a starter in your team mate.. Talented but not talented enough to get in your team eh? |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jul 4, 2015 17:52:46 GMT 1
I agree, whateva some say on here it's poor to sell such a talented young midfielder to a rival. It's funny you should say that, just flicking through the Hull starting 11 thread & you don't have Coady down as a starter in your team mate.. Talented but not talented enough to get in your team eh? Hahahahahahaha ROFL LMAO LMFAO That's made my day |
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Post by 3Pipe on Jul 4, 2015 17:55:29 GMT 1
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Jul 4, 2015 17:57:58 GMT 1
I agree, whateva some say on here it's poor to sell such a talented young midfielder to a rival. It's funny you should say that, just flicking through the Hull starting 11 thread & you don't have Coady down as a starter in your team mate.. Talented but not talented enough to get in your team eh? Checking up lol ? He was going to come on as a sub though and weave his magic, not all about starting you know.   |
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Post by kes on Jul 4, 2015 18:01:41 GMT 1
Im not even convinced there was a release clause (though we often have a gentleman's agreement that we will let them go if a decent bid comes) as i think the club would have stated that (appeases the fans somewhat) i just think it was like rhodes he wanted the move so we just had to get an acceptable fee. Rhodes wanted to move to West Ham in the January before we sold him. Was told no. Hunt wanted to go to Swansea the same window was told no. I`m surprized Coady wasn`t told the same. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2015 18:16:12 GMT 1
Im not even convinced there was a release clause (though we often have a gentleman's agreement that we will let them go if a decent bid comes) as i think the club would have stated that (appeases the fans somewhat) i just think it was like rhodes he wanted the move so we just had to get an acceptable fee. Rhodes wanted to move to West Ham in the January before we sold him. Was told no. Hunt wanted to go to Swansea the same window was told no. I`m surprized Coady wasn`t told the same. It's not the January window though, is it?  |
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Post by shawsie on Jul 4, 2015 18:19:51 GMT 1
Im not even convinced there was a release clause (though we often have a gentleman's agreement that we will let them go if a decent bid comes) as i think the club would have stated that (appeases the fans somewhat) i just think it was like rhodes he wanted the move so we just had to get an acceptable fee. There will have been a release clause..........we don't need to sell, and the board are notoriously good negotiators. The deal has been struck too quickly not to have, and once Coady said I want to go it's about moving on as soon as possible with a replacement. Instead of bemoaning the situation, we should rejoice in the fact that we have been promoted whilst smashing our old exit transfer record several times with deals for Rhodes, hunt, pilks, clayton and now Coady.......not to mention the profits made on pelts twice and Norwood. Yes it could all go wrong........but I comfort myself in knowing that dean won't just walk away a la rubery - he has funded a massive transformation behind the scenes whilst overseeing a one division uplift in standard on the pitch. Breathe fellas.....it's a long way to go til 31 aug!!!!! |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jul 4, 2015 18:19:52 GMT 1
It's funny you should say that, just flicking through the Hull starting 11 thread & you don't have Coady down as a starter in your team mate.. Talented but not talented enough to get in your team eh? Checking up lol ? He was going to come on as a sub though and weave his magic, not all about starting you know. It didn't take much time to make you look a contradictory fool. Are you saying you'd have rejected the £2m bid & used him as an impact player? Expensive bench warmer that! |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jul 4, 2015 18:22:09 GMT 1
Checking up lol ? He was going to come on as a sub though and weave his magic, not all about starting you know. It didn't take much time to make you look a contradictory fool. Are you saying you'd have rejected the £2m bid & used him as an impact player? Expensive bench warmer that! Please tell me Duane Holmes was in the starting 11 ... That would send me over the edge |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jul 4, 2015 18:24:37 GMT 1
It didn't take much time to make you look a contradictory fool. Are you saying you'd have rejected the £2m bid & used him as an impact player? Expensive bench warmer that! Please tell me Duane Holmes was in the starting 11 ... That would send me over the edge Captain! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2015 18:25:59 GMT 1
I know we are a selling club and we just have to live with it. However, I am most unhappy when we sell to clubs in our division, it's OK to clubs either above or below us but it often comes back to bite us with teams in our division. Comments? Oh the easy descriptor of a 'selling club' - at the right fee every club will sell....Raheem Sterling at 50 million - even Wolves with Kevin McDonald given the right price from Fulham |
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Post by Jello Biafra on Jul 4, 2015 18:26:29 GMT 1
Blimey, anyone would think that there's a shortage of young, hungry players sat in Premier League reserve sides that aren't going to get a first team game there. No one had heard of Coady 12 months ago, and it's just as likely that no one will have heard of his replacement (if there's going to be a direct replacement coming in) either.
If Town's policy is to recruit sensibly, develop talent and then sell at a sizeable profit, then a large part of the recruiting process will involve the promise of allowing them to move on when their valuation is met. That makes Town an attractive place to come to for these lads, even if the fans don't like the club being considered as merely a stepping stone.
This kind of financial prudence doesn't necessarily equate to lack of ambition, it's just a model that tends to support progress at a slower rate and today's impatient supporters find that frustrating.
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Post by kes on Jul 4, 2015 18:28:20 GMT 1
Im not even convinced there was a release clause (though we often have a gentleman's agreement that we will let them go if a decent bid comes) as i think the club would have stated that (appeases the fans somewhat) i just think it was like rhodes he wanted the move so we just had to get an acceptable fee. There will have been a release clause..........we don't need to sell, and the board are notoriously good negotiators. The deal has been struck too quickly not to have, and once Coady said I want to go it's about moving on as soon as possible with a replacement. Instead of bemoaning the situation, we should rejoice in the fact that we have been promoted whilst smashing our old exit transfer record several times with deals for Rhodes, hunt, pilks, clayton and now Coady.......not to mention the profits made on pelts twice and Norwood. Yes it could all go wrong........but I comfort myself in knowing that dean won't just walk away a la rubery - he has funded a massive transformation behind the scenes whilst overseeing a one division uplift in standard on the pitch. Breathe fellas.....it's a long way to go til 31 aug!!!!! If there was a release clause he wasn`t an appreciating asset. |
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Post by 3Pipe on Jul 4, 2015 18:30:36 GMT 1
No one had heard of Coady 12 months ago I'd heard of him and I expect others had too to be fair.. |
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Post by Tinpot on Jul 4, 2015 18:34:05 GMT 1
If we get a good offer from a club in our division then yes, why not sell? Teams from a lower division would never get him & he's not done enough to warrant a bid from a Prem club.
The choice is (assuming that there was no release clause - in which case there was no choice!) to accept a deal where we get £2m for a player who cost £375k 11 months ago, or to miss out on that deal.
With or without Coady, we're unlikely to be competing at the same end of the table with Wolves, so it's not really that much different than if we had sold him for the same amount to a premier league side. This isn't like when we sold Marcus Stewart (to our closest promotion rivals for a fraction of his worth).
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2015 18:34:06 GMT 1
No one had heard of Coady 12 months ago I'd heard of him and I expect others had too to be fair.. He'd just enjoyed a successful loan at Sheffield United. |
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Post by wtd on Jul 4, 2015 18:36:34 GMT 1
No one had heard of Coady 12 months ago I'd heard of him and I expect others had too to be fair.. I'd wager 90% of all Town fans hadn't heard of him.
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Post by Thwarting Dog on Jul 4, 2015 18:44:40 GMT 1
You heard of him, now you can forget him he's gone.
I've changed my stance on him, he could have said "I am going nowhere" but, BUT, the signing on fee is the magnet, so good luck lad will you play 40 odd games this coming season with all those Wolves midfielders. NO
Let's see how we go replacement wise before we judge
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Post by shawsie on Jul 4, 2015 18:45:08 GMT 1
There will have been a release clause..........we don't need to sell, and the board are notoriously good negotiators. The deal has been struck too quickly not to have, and once Coady said I want to go it's about moving on as soon as possible with a replacement. Instead of bemoaning the situation, we should rejoice in the fact that we have been promoted whilst smashing our old exit transfer record several times with deals for Rhodes, hunt, pilks, clayton and now Coady.......not to mention the profits made on pelts twice and Norwood. Yes it could all go wrong........but I comfort myself in knowing that dean won't just walk away a la rubery - he has funded a massive transformation behind the scenes whilst overseeing a one division uplift in standard on the pitch. Breathe fellas.....it's a long way to go til 31 aug!!!!! If there was a release clause he wasn`t an appreciating asset. Beg to differ kes.....the lad turned down bigger offers to come to us because he knew he would play here if he performed decently...........as such if we had a decent offer for him then he would want to move onwards and upwards with a view to returning to the prem ASAP surely and therefore the trigger clause goes in. |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jul 4, 2015 18:50:58 GMT 1
the impatient support is probably the one we need to progress..
us die hards have an idea about whats going on and the realities of our situation. we can still have a right old moan about it though..
a succession of players who look to have a decent future being sold on quickly is unlikely to give the right impression to the floaters or possible supporters..
nobody in their right mind should argue about the deal with Rhodes and after another season where we make a bit of progress on and off the pitch would there have been much argument about Cody being sold for 2/3 million.. we made a profit and had another year of 'progress' in the division..
Bunn has a good year for us this year and gets a good offer etc, fine with me and the club gets reasonable use of the assett and makes some money on it...
Its more for me seeing this season than the 'bigger picture'... snapping peoples hands off is one thing, selling early, albeit holding onto a player for a bit longer comes with risks, might not be our best move..
difficult decisions but we pay people good money to make em...
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Post by Thwarting Dog on Jul 4, 2015 19:06:35 GMT 1
Problem we have is building an experienced team selling our young guns, means ageing players coming in. It may get us mid-table but that's it. Remember Alan Hansen saying " nobody ever won anything with the kids" When are we going to unleash the lolly & co  ? Business models and football don't mix, balancing books, yes we have to unfortunately. |
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Jul 4, 2015 19:25:03 GMT 1
One could easily argue that we held on to James Vaughan too long, had we sold him when he was one of the league's top scorer in Jan 2014, we would have made a handsome profit on an injury prone player.
At the time though it would have been viewed as a negative move by the club.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but I am more than happy to place my trust in DH, He will make mistakes but they will be honest ones, done with the best interests of Huddersfield Town at heart. And likely he will be the one taking the financial impact of any mistakes.
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Jul 4, 2015 19:29:22 GMT 1
Problem we have is building an experienced team selling our young guns, means ageing players coming in. It may get us mid-table but that's it. Remember Alan Hansen saying " nobody ever won anything with the kids" When are we going to unleash the lolly & co ? Business models and football don't mix, balancing books, yes we have to unfortunately. I think the club realised we were short of more than a little experience in the middle of the park that led us to be unable to see some results out and earmarked Whitehead to help to correct this. The correct mix of youth and experience is what is required. Inexperience cost us in the Millwall playoff matches, so I don't have an issue with bringing in experience to try and hit the right blend. |
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