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Post by colnevalleyblue on Aug 16, 2015 11:14:05 GMT 1
I don't believe a word.. Anyone can post anything on here & claim to be 'in the know,' but the reality is, no evidence is provided to support his/her claims & being a first time poster, has no credibility. It amuses me that Nick instantly believes a random poster with absolutely nothing to back it up though!  If it's all true I'll hold my hands up, but in the meantime it's nothing but piss & wind! The part about Smithies not wanting to leave was true up to yesterday at least. |
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Post by Barbieterrier on Aug 16, 2015 11:15:59 GMT 1
Alex Smithies wasn't available because his wife gave birth Wednesday. So big congratulations to Alex and his wife welcoming his little girl Rosie on Wednedsay at an eye watering 8lb 10oz |
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Post by Giggity on Aug 16, 2015 11:16:43 GMT 1
Alex Smithies: - Bid has been accepted, and move is now down to the player. Alex does not want to leave, however his hand may have been forced due to someone within the hierarchy of the club. Chris Powell does not want Alex to leave, and there has been a discussion with Powell and the board, and so I believe a 'strong' disagreement. Jacob Butterfield: Interest from Derby and Bournemouth, although no 'official' bid has not been submitted, talks have been ongoing, and we should expect to receive one. Dean Hoyle:- Become somewhat disillusioned with life at Town. His family have been wanting him to sell for some time, and they will get their wish. With any potential sale, this may or may not include Canalside. Dean/his other company are the Landlord of Canalside. For the avoidance of doubt this 'asset' does not belong directly to HTAFC, and isn't in the clubs holding name. A potential sale could see us paying rent for the benefit of Canalside. There has been expressive interest from two separate party's, and I can confirm, one of the party's involved does not agree with DH valuation of the club. Chris Powell:- Very unhappy at town due to various failed promises by the board in relation to our recruitment. There were 4 'key' targets he had identified towards the back end of last season, and he only has one in Dean Whitehead. Chris did not make the decision to leave Alex out of the squad at the weekend, he was told that Alex wasn't available by the Chief Executive. There are various rumblings within the club and one or two 'senior' players have voiced their discontent at the sale of 'key' players without any 'established' replacement.
Powell was strongly advised not to sign Whitehead by our head of recruitment. It's no surprise that he hasn't been trusted with any more of his own transfers. |
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Post by H6dds on Aug 16, 2015 11:16:39 GMT 1
If all this is true then the most sad part for me is if the club is forcing Smithies to move after all he has done for the club. Every club dreams of that one academy player to go on and play for their first team his entire career and actually care about the club. I feel like Smithies actually really wants to be here and nowhere else, I don't now if it's just me but I think that is sad if they forces him away. Would like him to play here until he is 38, break all sort of records and then become some sort of coach for us.
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Post by bluedogs, Esq. on Aug 16, 2015 11:16:57 GMT 1
Why ? It sounds very true to me. It sounds plausible, but it could be utter bullshit. There's probably an element of truth in some of the points, but it's a poor thread, and by a 1st time poster who could be on a complete wind up mission. Its a shame that some of those who are more in the know don't let the cat out of the bag |
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Post by terrierng on Aug 16, 2015 11:23:53 GMT 1
If all this is true then the most sad part for me is if the club is forcing Smithies to move after all he has done for the club. Every club dreams of that one academy player to go on and play for their first team his entire career and actually care about the club. I feel like Smithies actually really wants to be here and nowhere else, I don't now if it's just me but I think that is sad if they forces him away. Would like him to play here until he is 38, break all sort of records and then become some sort of coach for us. Hes got a long contract doesnt have to go at all. If he really doesn't want to leave all he has to do is say he is staying |
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Post by htfcfcfc on Aug 16, 2015 11:24:46 GMT 1
Hoyle has always said he wanted to leave a legacy for the club with facilities in place to move the club forward in his absence
I personally don't believe the OP has a clue although I don't doubt some of it has an element of truth in it. Something is not right currently but highly doubt that Hoyle is looking to cash in on our best players in advance of leaving us high and dry
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Post by captainblack on Aug 16, 2015 11:26:53 GMT 1
Alex Smithies: - Bid has been accepted, and move is now down to the player. Alex does not want to leave, however his hand may have been forced due to someone within the hierarchy of the club. Chris Powell does not want Alex to leave, and there has been a discussion with Powell and the board, and so I believe a 'strong' disagreement. Jacob Butterfield: Interest from Derby and Bournemouth, although no 'official' bid has not been submitted, talks have been ongoing, and we should expect to receive one. Dean Hoyle:- Become somewhat disillusioned with life at Town. His family have been wanting him to sell for some time, and they will get their wish. With any potential sale, this may or may not include Canalside. Dean/his other company are the Landlord of Canalside. For the avoidance of doubt this 'asset' does not belong directly to HTAFC, and isn't in the clubs holding name. A potential sale could see us paying rent for the benefit of Canalside. There has been expressive interest from two separate party's, and I can confirm, one of the party's involved does not agree with DH valuation of the club. Chris Powell:- Very unhappy at town due to various failed promises by the board in relation to our recruitment. There were 4 'key' targets he had identified towards the back end of last season, and he only has one in Dean Whitehead. Chris did not make the decision to leave Alex out of the squad at the weekend, he was told that Alex wasn't available by the Chief Executive. There are various rumblings within the club and one or two 'senior' players have voiced their discontent at the sale of 'key' players without any 'established' replacement.
What you have posted could be completely truthful but although I have no insight in the Internal affairs at Huddersfield Town It could not stop me posting a lot of speculation concerning the club either truthful or not.I think we have probably become too accustomed to some quite blatant nonsense being banded about concerning Huddersfield Town. |
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Post by impact on Aug 16, 2015 11:27:38 GMT 1
If it is that easy to force a player to move why did we keep Gerard all last season. Quite simply wages,no one was offering what Gerrard was on here. Or more simply, no one wanted him, hence the reason he is still without a club. |
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Post by terrierng on Aug 16, 2015 11:29:52 GMT 1
Quite simply wages,no one was offering what Gerrard was on here. Or more simply, no one wanted him, hence the reason he is still without a club. That too;D |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2015 11:31:11 GMT 1
Hoyle has always said he wanted to leave a legacy for the club with facilities in place to move the club forward in his absence I personally don't believe the OP has a clue although I don't doubt some of it has an element of truth in it. Something is not right currently but highly doubt that Hoyle is looking to cash in on our best players in advance of leaving us high and dry When you mention facilities, I assume you are referring to the point I made about Canalside ? If so this particular asset is held under the company name 'Huddersfield Canalside Ltd' |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2015 11:32:06 GMT 1
If all this is true then the most sad part for me is if the club is forcing Smithies to move after all he has done for the club. Every club dreams of that one academy player to go on and play for their first team his entire career and actually care about the club. I feel like Smithies actually really wants to be here and nowhere else, I don't now if it's just me but I think that is sad if they forces him away. Would like him to play here until he is 38, break all sort of records and then become some sort of coach for us. Hes got a long contract doesnt have to go at all. If he really doesn't want to leave all he has to do is say he is staying correct |
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Post by htfcfcfc on Aug 16, 2015 11:40:01 GMT 1
Hoyle has always said he wanted to leave a legacy for the club with facilities in place to move the club forward in his absence I personally don't believe the OP has a clue although I don't doubt some of it has an element of truth in it. Something is not right currently but highly doubt that Hoyle is looking to cash in on our best players in advance of leaving us high and dry When you mention facilities, I assume you are referring to the point I made about Canalside ? If so this particular asset is held under the company name 'Huddersfield Canalside Ltd' Yes. That's exactly what I'm talking about. If it happens I'll happily apologise and praise your inside info. For now though, unless Hoyle has gone all Ken Davy on us, I highly doubt we'd be put in a position where we would have to pay rent on a training ground. |
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Aug 16, 2015 11:41:55 GMT 1
The level of spending has gone up in the championship this season. Numerous clubs bidding and spending 5m plus on 1 player. We have broken 500k once maybe twice since we were promoted I think (wells and scannell?). Hoyle is a legend and I wouldn't expect him to plough cash in at this stage but he simply isn't wealthy enough to compete at championship level. Selling the club would be the end of an era but it needs to happen. This squad needs at least 10 million spending to make us top 6 contenders. Probably needs 4 or 5 to make us regular mid table.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Aug 16, 2015 11:46:05 GMT 1
I don't believe a word.. Anyone can post anything on here & claim to be 'in the know,' but the reality is, no evidence is provided to support his/her claims & being a first time poster, has no credibility. It amuses me that Nick instantly believes a random poster with absolutely nothing to back it up though! If it's all true I'll hold my hands up, but in the meantime it's nothing but piss & wind! Fair game. I expect to be met with scepticism, and rightly too. But I'm struggling to understand how I could provide evidence lol. I suppose a lot of it is down to trust, as you rightly say, this is my first post. All I can say to you is watch this space Ok, let's just say what you are saying is the truth, the watch this space comment, are we talking in the next few days, weeks or months? Also, any information on the interested parties? Names? Consortium? Foreign, local? I thought the training ground was safeguarded to the club in a 100 year lease? Does this mean the 40% shares in the stadium also belong to Dean Hoyle & not HTAFC? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2015 11:46:28 GMT 1
When you mention facilities, I assume you are referring to the point I made about Canalside ? If so this particular asset is held under the company name 'Huddersfield Canalside Ltd' Yes. That's exactly what I'm talking about. If it happens I'll happily apologise and praise your inside info. For now though, unless Hoyle has gone all Ken Davy on us, I highly doubt we'd be put in a position where we would have to pay rent on a training ground. I don't think he has gone Ken Davy on us . We will see, I am not saying definitely we would, but at the same time, it's about what someone is willing to pay for the club, and how much they would have to pay with/without Canalside.......... time will tell.... |
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Post by nicovaesen on Aug 16, 2015 11:46:35 GMT 1
Are you alex, Jacob, dean or Chris per chance?
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Post by Captainslapper on Aug 16, 2015 11:46:51 GMT 1
I have no idea whether any of those rumours have any substance or not.
The smithies one- well when you have good players its a fact you'll get bids for them. there are about 5 clubs in the world who aren't selling clubs and HTFC- one of the smallest in england's 2nd tier and losing money at an alarming rate- aren't one of them. Every player has a value that we would sell at. Same as every other club at this level. Wheeling and dealing in players is part of our strategy, it has to be.
Id be surprised if AS wants to go. Local lad new baby, Id guess his wife is local too so would he want to up sticks to the other end of the country at this time of his life. More money maybe but id imagine hes doing very nicely on that front as it is.
Butterfield- as above.
Hoyle- I wouldn't be surprised at all. If it is true then IMO its just the chickens coming home to roost for the fans of this club. Too much negativity and too little support from the missing 1000s that normally appear when a club does better than it has for many years. Id imagine he feels let down badly and disillusioned. I know i would.
Its been an extremely expensive adventure for him but he knows he could walk away now and hold his head up high at how hes left the club in a much better state then when he got it.
Powell- a manager unhappy that he hasn't signed all the players he'd have ideally wanted? Hardly a rarety.
If push came to shove and he left then i doubt thered be many tears on either side. Always seemed a strange fit for us- a London boy who's family still live down there. I never really expected him to be a long term manager myself.
Someone like Redfearn would be a much better fit in many ways IMO.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2015 11:48:28 GMT 1
I heard ages ago that Dean would keep Canalside and rent it out, can't think where though - possibly on here.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2015 11:52:56 GMT 1
Fair game. I expect to be met with scepticism, and rightly too. But I'm struggling to understand how I could provide evidence lol. I suppose a lot of it is down to trust, as you rightly say, this is my first post. All I can say to you is watch this space Ok, let's just say what you are saying is the truth, the watch this space comment, are we talking in the next few days, weeks or months? Also, any information on the interested parties? Names? Consortium? Foreign, local? I thought the training ground was safeguarded to the club in a 100 year lease? Does this mean the 40% shares in the stadium also belong to Dean Hoyle & not HTAFC? Don't quote me on timescales, things are not at an advanced stage, purely preliminary, and Dean and his advisors have met, and will do so in the near future to discuss. RE: training ground lease and 40% shares, I do not have this information so it would be wrong of me to answer. |
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Post by htfcfcfc on Aug 16, 2015 11:53:31 GMT 1
Agree with your points Captain but were he to sell would it really have cost him that much? I've absolutely no idea how much Huddersfield Town is worth but I'd like to think with the team as it is, the stadium shares, the training ground and facilities and Championship status he might claw his money back. Maybe I'm grossly over valuing us
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2015 11:53:48 GMT 1
Are you alex, Jacob, dean or Chris per chance? I can be all 4 if you like  |
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Post by Barbieterrier on Aug 16, 2015 11:57:55 GMT 1
Are you alex, Jacob, dean or Chris per chance? [br Or Danny? The deleted tweet today was great banter good for the fishes  |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Aug 16, 2015 12:08:59 GMT 1
a week ago we spoke on here about it looking like the end of something.. someone popping up and commenting on what we already believed to be happening is not a light bulb moment really.
smithies and butterfield, no great suprises..
if someone offered a million for bunn and they desperately wanted hudson, that might catch a few breaths,,
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Post by terrierng on Aug 16, 2015 12:09:27 GMT 1
The level of spending has gone up in the championship this season. Numerous clubs bidding and spending 5m plus on 1 player. We have broken 500k once maybe twice since we were promoted I think (wells and scannell?). Hoyle is a legend and I wouldn't expect him to plough cash in at this stage but he simply isn't wealthy enough to compete at championship level. Selling the club would be the end of an era but it needs to happen. This squad needs at least 10 million spending to make us top 6 contenders. Probably needs 4 or 5 to make us regular mid table. No it doesn't, keeping hold of decent players would though. |
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Post by kennyk2 on Aug 16, 2015 12:13:14 GMT 1
On the bright side - if the chairman/owner has lost interest then this is not good for the club, so it would be a good time to try someone else and perhaps a new owner can invigorate the staff and players. Ever been in a job where it is a drudge each working day - Hoyle can't even get away from it at the weekend! This might be as far as he can take us and a big thanks from me for saving my club from League 1 obscurity. So, let's get this thing sorted pronto for the benefit of the club and fans, leaving HTFC in the best position possible. The club may be much less attractive (though cheaper) in league 1. Perhaps that's what prospective buyers are hoping for.
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Post by Captainslapper on Aug 16, 2015 12:17:51 GMT 1
Agree with your points Captain but were he to sell would it really have cost him that much? I've absolutely no idea how much Huddersfield Town is worth but I'd like to think with the team as it is, the stadium shares, the training ground and facilities and Championship status he might claw his money back. Maybe I'm grossly over valuing us Who knows but when valuing the club any potential buyer would be influenced by the exact same things that must de disillusioning Dean Hoyle- negativity, dropping crowds, etc. We are what we are I suppose. Maybe a club thats too big to be labelled a League 1 club, but too small to be labelled Championship? Sort of somewhere between the two. Whoever bought the club would be buying a business thats haemorrhaging money just to tread water in this division. Who knows, maybe that only leaves one kind of potential buyer likely to want to step in? Someone ( probably with no previous connection to the club) who sees the pots of gold available in the prem and has the will and finance to buy a club and spend what it takes to get it to the prem? Bouremouth, QPR, Cardiff, Reading, Sheff Wed, Watford etc etc- it wouldn't be the first time its happened would it. We may only be a small club in terms of crowds, but in the prem thats largely insignificant when theres so much TV money sloshing around. |
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Post by rocky on Aug 16, 2015 12:19:15 GMT 1
Hoyle- I wouldn't be surprised at all. If it is true then IMO its just the chickens coming home to roost for the fans of this club. Too much negativity and too little support from the missing 1000s that normally appear when a club does better than it has for many years. Id imagine he feels let down badly and disillusioned. Absolutely got it in one. He would be right to think that some of the fans are a bunch of ungrateful sods. |
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Post by bigfatmonkey on Aug 16, 2015 12:21:37 GMT 1
If all this is true then the most sad part for me is if the club is forcing Smithies to move after all he has done for the club. Every club dreams of that one academy player to go on and play for their first team his entire career and actually care about the club. I feel like Smithies actually really wants to be here and nowhere else, I don't now if it's just me but I think that is sad if they forces him away. Would like him to play here until he is 38, break all sort of records and then become some sort of coach for us. Hes got a long contract doesnt have to go at all. If he really doesn't want to leave all he has to do is say he is staying True, but if the manager is being told by the chief executive not to play him it wouldn't be good for his career to stay here and not play for three years. If that bit is true of course, who knows! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2015 12:22:33 GMT 1
Fair to say he would leave us in a better place than when he took over.how many chairman can say that
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