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Post by townrwe on Aug 29, 2015 20:43:37 GMT 1
I can't believe the abuse Vaughan is getting on here. He's been told to leave, he's not asked. Far from being a prima donna, he's always been fully committed when playing for Town (probably too much, which has led or contributed to many of his injuries). Good luck James and thanks for the memories. He is exactly what we were missing today...... We will miss the fit James Vaughan. Shame he wasn't fit for long enough. He is going to cost ALOT to replace.
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Post by shawsie on Aug 29, 2015 20:48:01 GMT 1
I can't believe the abuse Vaughan is getting on here. He's been told to leave, he's not asked. Far from being a prima donna, he's always been fully committed when playing for Town (probably too much, which has led or contributed to many of his injuries). Good luck James and thanks for the memories. He is exactly what we were missing today...... We will miss the fit James Vaughan. Shame he wasn't fit for long enough. He is going to cost ALOT to replace. I agree.......the way powell plays mostly needs a fit mobile lone front runner and vaughan at his best is way above the others in that role.
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Post by morleyterrier on Aug 29, 2015 20:50:39 GMT 1
I have a bad knee and am shite at football.
Pay me a huge wage a week and I too can stay at home and not be a first Team option.
Loved the Lad when in the odd occasion he played. He is though a financial burden we must rid ourselves of.
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Post by bluedogs, Esq. on Aug 29, 2015 20:51:09 GMT 1
IMHO if Vaughan had played today instead of Miller shite we would have won
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Aug 29, 2015 20:52:23 GMT 1
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Post by townrwe on Aug 29, 2015 20:55:49 GMT 1
He is exactly what we were missing today...... We will miss the fit James Vaughan. Shame he wasn't fit for long enough. He is going to cost ALOT to replace. I agree.......the way powell plays mostly needs a fit mobile lone front runner and vaughan at his best is way above the others in that role. Having a defender as a manager has done us no favours..... We don't have the personel or pace to play the counter attacking football we are set up to play. We need some serious pace. Box to box midfielder, attacking mid to replace Butts and striker/strikers. Huws could be a very good addition, from what ive seen, he picks a pass very quickly and makes good decisions. But you need the players with pace to allow him to create. Even keeping scanz, crayon... A no10 (lolley) and a quick striker are required.
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Post by Headless Chicken on Aug 29, 2015 21:13:29 GMT 1
I can't believe the abuse Vaughan is getting on here. He's been told to leave, he's not asked. Far from being a prima donna, he's always been fully committed when playing for Town (probably too much, which has led or contributed to many of his injuries). Good luck James and thanks for the memories. Exactly this. Why can't we just accept he has done a great job for us and now it suits both him and us for him to move on. Shame we have to tarnish everything he has done by stooping to such lows A lot of people just aren't very nice.
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Post by saintlyterrier on Aug 29, 2015 21:32:48 GMT 1
So it looks as though JV is certainly leaving. Let me give my humble opinion that we were very lucky to have had him playing for us. Let's face it, if he had been injury-free, he'd still be in the Premier League, because he is that good. I recall watching a match at Ashton Gate when the Vaughan hat trick was the main difference between Town and Bristol City. Never was the cry of "Vaughan will tear you apart again" more justified. So, I'm in workshyfop's camp, and certainly don't subscribe to the bitter comments of morleyterrier.
He has been a far better player than Jordan Rhodes. His work rate is far greater, if his enthusiasm was sometimes misplaced.
As townrwe has stated, he will indeed cost a lot to replace. Deano, please get your wallet ready...
I accept that, while JV will continue to play the occasional great game, his injuries will increasingly blight his career. I hope he can enjoy it while he can.
Thank you, James.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 21:38:37 GMT 1
So it looks as though JV is certainly leaving. Let me give my humble opinion that we were very lucky to have had him playing for us. Let's face it, if he had been injury-free, he'd still be in the Premier League, because he is that good. I recall watching a match at Ashton Gate when the Vaughan hat trick was the main difference between Town and Bristol City. Never was the cry of "Vaughan will tear you apart again" more justified. So, I'm in workshyfop's camp, and certainly don't subscribe to the bitter comments of morleyterrier. He has been a far better player than Jordan Rhodes. His work rate is far greater, if his enthusiasm was sometimes misplaced. As townrwe has stated, he will indeed cost a lot to replace. Deano, please get your wallet ready... I accept that, while JV will continue to play the occasional great game, his injuries will increasingly blight his career. I hope he can enjoy it while he can. Thank you, James. i too like vaughn but ifeel its the best allround if he moves on
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Post by saintlyterrier on Aug 29, 2015 21:40:11 GMT 1
I agree, positive, but what a shame.
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Post by waltzingthecowshed on Aug 29, 2015 21:56:01 GMT 1
I can't believe the abuse Vaughan is getting on here. He's been told to leave, he's not asked. Far from being a prima donna, he's always been fully committed when playing for Town (probably too much, which has led or contributed to many of his injuries). Good luck James and thanks for the memories. Well said. I think the time is right for Town and Vaughan to part company - the amount of time he's out injured has just become too much - but I can't understand the abuse he's getting either. Perhaps, at times, he's not looked after himself on the pitch, but that's just his character - he's a whole-hearted, all action type of player. Take that away from him and you have half the player. I'm sure Vaughan is as frustrated as anyone that he's not been able to play. I've seen no evidence to suggest he's a prima donna or happy to pick up a wage without playing. Unfortunately I don't think we'll ever see the James Vaughan we saw a few seasons ago. Its right that he's been allowed to go, but we should respect what he's done for us and wish him all the best for the future. Totally agree shame on some of you haters short memories. When he's played even wearing a mask to protect a fractured eyesocket, he gave his all, a top player in recent years our talisman and for this reason that he was our go to player he's getting stick....should ave been signed on pay for play if theres anyone to blame for the 'JV situation' blame Hoyle and Clibbens....heard that JV and Hammill been told not training with first team from now on, our Manager getting rid of the 'deadwood'
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Aug 29, 2015 22:01:37 GMT 1
I can't believe the abuse Vaughan is getting on here. He's been told to leave, he's not asked. Far from being a prima donna, he's always been fully committed when playing for Town (probably too much, which has led or contributed to many of his injuries). Good luck James and thanks for the memories. Exactly this. Why can't we just accept he has done a great job for us and now it suits both him and us for him to move on. Shame we have to tarnish everything he has done by stooping to such lows People soon forget that without his goals in his loan season and the first season of his full time contract we'd have been playing in the 3rd division again now. He also played pushing 30 games last season including some with a broken cheekbone. Whatever happens in the future with him his contribution will always be appreciated by me. Lets not forget if he hadn't had so many injuries prior to coming here then he'd never have dropped to the Championship in the first place.
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Aug 29, 2015 22:27:36 GMT 1
Is another club going to take him on? Any solid rumours?
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Aug 29, 2015 22:31:10 GMT 1
How many minutes has he played this season? And how much has he picked up in wages in that time? Put the blame at the feet of the people who signed him in the first place we all knew his history so don't go slagging Vaughan off now he has always given his all for town unlike some in the present set up Hoyle as much to blame as anyone should have been given pay as you play contract in the first place good luck James Remember the close season after he was with us on loan and many on here were demanding that we sign him up before anyone else did and slagging the Town board off for not moving quickly enough whilst JV was away on holiday. Then the delight when learning we'd signed him and had pushed the boat out to do so. Some short memories and turncoats on here. Jv was great for us overall but sadly it's in the past now.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 22:33:26 GMT 1
If rather have vaughan on crutches with a blindfold on than anthony gerrard sorry ishmail miller upfront - he'd be better with the Giants get bloody shut of the parasite. Calling Vaughan a parasite is just about one of the most embarrassing things I've ever seen you post on here and that takes some doing. As frustrating as Vaughan has been with injuries, don't forget what he's done for us in his time here. Give your head a massive shake.
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Post by lex on Aug 29, 2015 22:42:24 GMT 1
So it looks as though JV is certainly leaving. Let me give my humble opinion that we were very lucky to have had him playing for us. Let's face it, if he had been injury-free, he'd still be in the Premier League, because he is that good. I recall watching a match at Ashton Gate when the Vaughan hat trick was the main difference between Town and Bristol City. Never was the cry of "Vaughan will tear you apart again" more justified. So, I'm in workshyfop's camp, and certainly don't subscribe to the bitter comments of morleyterrier. He has been a far better player than Jordan Rhodes. His work rate is far greater, if his enthusiasm was sometimes misplaced. As townrwe has stated, he will indeed cost a lot to replace. Deano, please get your wallet ready... I accept that, while JV will continue to play the occasional great game, his injuries will increasingly blight his career. I hope he can enjoy it while he can. Thank you, James.
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Post by wigster on Aug 29, 2015 22:44:12 GMT 1
I can't believe the abuse Vaughan is getting on here. He's been told to leave, he's not asked. Far from being a prima donna, he's always been fully committed when playing for Town (probably too much, which has led or contributed to many of his injuries). Good luck James and thanks for the memories. He is exactly what we were missing today...... We will miss the fit James Vaughan. Shame he wasn't fit for long enough. He is going to cost ALOT to replace. Isn't the point that he has cost us ALOT to not play for us.
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Post by townrwe on Aug 29, 2015 22:46:53 GMT 1
He is exactly what we were missing today...... We will miss the fit James Vaughan. Shame he wasn't fit for long enough. He is going to cost ALOT to replace. Isn't the point that he has cost us ALOT to not play for us. A striker as good as him will cost more of hes fit.... and he could do his cruciate ligaments first game. Think its more town unwilling to pay the appearance clause to Norwich.
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Post by thomo on Aug 29, 2015 22:59:45 GMT 1
Wish Vaughan all the best. One the best strikers I've seen for town when fit. If we are to persist with 433, and it certainly looks that way, then we don't have a striker good enough to play the role as lead in the front 3.
With Vaughan's wages in the kitty and the smithies money in the bank, we could probably get someone pretty decent.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 23:09:30 GMT 1
Class player JV. Some great performances, goals and memories. Brainless at times tho and cost the team dear with some unnecessary injuries. Not the best finisher in the world and would often take 3-4 games to rediscover his form but then suffer injury again within 10 games of doing so.
You can't a build side or style of play around him and we've certainly suffered because of that.
Hopefully his wages will allow a younger replacement or decent season loan.
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Post by specialun on Aug 29, 2015 23:25:30 GMT 1
If Miller is the answer I dread to think the question
4th choice, to bring off the bench for a 20 minute cameo, offer something different, come on away to hold up the ball - yes all good.
Be a regular starter? No way. League 1 perhaps but championship - boy we're in the mire if this is the case!
He isn't fit enough or enough stamina to last more than 65 minutes at full effort.
He's good until he touches the ball - once its under control (can take a bit of time) he's got the kick and run down the left, otherwise - there's nothing. Its painful to watch at times.
As for Vaughan - class apart when fit. 110%, fantastic in the air and a different level to Miller and I'd include Wells in that. He should have been starting today if ready - Who do we think we are, we can't afford our best players to not be playing. Accept for the wages he's on he isn't fit enough - I get that, but what are we going to do get another league 1 player in on loan or a guy from Middlesbrough's reserves to sit on the bench?
Makes the Hiwula decision even more bizzre
Whilst on attacking options - what the hell has Harry Bunn done wrong? Assist last week, and nowhere to be seen?! Was he too positive in his run?
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Post by mightyterrier on Aug 30, 2015 0:30:21 GMT 1
If Miller is the answer I dread to think the question 4th choice, to bring off the bench for a 20 minute cameo, offer something different, come on away to hold up the ball - yes all good. Be a regular starter? No way. League 1 perhaps but championship - boy we're in the mire if this is the case! He isn't fit enough or enough stamina to last more than 65 minutes at full effort. He's good until he touches the ball - once its under control (can take a bit of time) he's got the kick and run down the left, otherwise - there's nothing. Its painful to watch at times. As for Vaughan - class apart when fit. 110%, fantastic in the air and a different level to Miller and I'd include Wells in that. He should have been starting today if ready - Who do we think we are, we can't afford our best players to not be playing. Accept for the wages he's on he isn't fit enough - I get that, but what are we going to do get another league 1 player in on loan or a guy from Middlesbrough's reserves to sit on the bench? Makes the Hiwula decision even more bizzre Whilst on attacking options - what the hell has Harry Bunn done wrong? Assist last week, and nowhere to be seen?! Was he too positive in his run? You mean the league one player who cost over 2 million quid not too long ago - yeah sure. Let's face it no matter what Powell did or does it's never gonna be good enough for you. The Vaughan issue simply supports your argument and no matter what approach the club had taken with him you would have used the opposite to suit what you wanted to say. I do agree Vaughan is a class apart when fit, but he never is fit is he, and for that reason he doesn't or won't play, had he been fit for most of his career he wouldn't be with us would he. Also with hiwula had we brought him in and he had failed then he would have been another scapegoat, so actually not quite as bizarre as it seems, but hey why let a good decision get in the way of another opportunity to slag town and Powell off eh
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Post by htfctx on Aug 30, 2015 0:41:08 GMT 1
James Vaughan is a great player. When fit, too good for town. We all knew it was an equation when he signed, if he stays fit, what a steal !! Dean has added up the future pounds and pence. Dean always makes brave decisions to move the team forward. Dean is a fan, thank goodness. Good luck to you Mr.James Vaughan, much respect.
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Post by ringdisco on Aug 30, 2015 0:50:18 GMT 1
If rather have vaughan on crutches with a blindfold on than anthony gerrard sorry ishmail miller upfront - he'd be better with the Giants Pathetic comment, at least Ish works hard Vaughn just steals a wage, get bloody shut of the parasite. Wish the admins got shut of you, once and for all.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2015 1:17:31 GMT 1
Sounds like hes talking with Fulham, heard he isnt even training anymore to prevent risk of injury before making a transfer
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Post by ritchie on Aug 30, 2015 1:44:37 GMT 1
Nick you really are an embarrassment
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Post by iangreaves on Aug 30, 2015 7:06:09 GMT 1
Well said. I think the time is right for Town and Vaughan to part company - the amount of time he's out injured has just become too much - but I can't understand the abuse he's getting either. Perhaps, at times, he's not looked after himself on the pitch, but that's just his character - he's a whole-hearted, all action type of player. Take that away from him and you have half the player. I'm sure Vaughan is as frustrated as anyone that he's not been able to play. I've seen no evidence to suggest he's a prima donna or happy to pick up a wage without playing. Unfortunately I don't think we'll ever see the James Vaughan we saw a few seasons ago. Its right that he's been allowed to go, but we should respect what he's done for us and wish him all the best for the future. Totally agree shame on some of you haters short memories. When he's played even wearing a mask to protect a fractured eyesocket, he gave his all, a top player in recent years our talisman and for this reason that he was our go to player he's getting stick....should ave been signed on pay for play if theres anyone to blame for the 'JV situation' blame Hoyle and Clibbens....heard that JV and Hammill been told not training with first team from now on, our Manager getting rid of the 'deadwood' I agree. People having a dig at Vaughan have short memories. That first season everyone thought we had pulled off a masterstroke by selling Rhodes for £8 million and replacing him with a player who was out-scoring him. Last season he played with a mask over a broken face, and continued to throw himself into full-on challenges. I, for one, appreciate his time at Town.
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Post by morleyterrier on Aug 30, 2015 7:20:28 GMT 1
Sick and tired of People judging others who in thinking that him going is the right thing for the Club and having this view is of course 'hateful', 'spiteful', 'short memories' etc etc.
There isn't a Town fan alive that hasn't loved watching Vaughan in his pomp. Awesome Striker, lethal.
We are though a Club on a tight budget and he may still be our highest earner.
Lack of goals being a concern so surely we are better getting in a Striker who potentially could play 46 games a season and chip in with 15 - 20 goals a season?.
I wish the Lad well, he gave us some great memories but ultimately the Club is a business and it is best for all concerned if he moves on.
That's my opinion and those who think otherwise of course have theirs.
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Post by Mr Breitside on Aug 30, 2015 7:21:48 GMT 1
It may be time to move on but Vaughan cannot be called a parasite.
He has bust a gut for us when fit and has scored some very Important goals in his time, unfortunately he is just one of those players who suffers with injuries.
No need to slag the guy for being paid under a contract that the club and he both signed.
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Post by townrwe on Aug 30, 2015 7:30:44 GMT 1
One thing I respect powell on is his ability to get rid of players and wheel and deal. After I calmed down over the ridiculous signings of crayon and huws, I see they will probably be good additions. Especially based on what I saw yesterday.
My major worry now, is we lack quality in every position. Last year you could look at the team and think..... We could do with a class centre back.
We miss Coady. He was probably the player out of everyone with a bit of extra class that shouldn't have been sold. If we had have just sold smithies to balance the books we would have been in a better position. Whitehead has been bang average so far. He's no barry Horne.
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