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Post by ACW on Aug 29, 2015 17:58:03 GMT 1
I've not been today but I thought he played well in the previous two home games. I can't understand the criticism of him (not in the home performances anyway). I don't understand the criticism of him either, Ok he's not dynamic and exciting as say Butterfield but that's not his game, and neither is he the new Barry Horne that we all so long for, but he is a great steady holding midfielder that will break up the play and try to keep it simple and help us retain the ball, decent signing for me, the guy's never gonna set the game on fire but he looks damn reliable to me. The question for me is do we need both him and Hogg in the team at the same time? Totally agree. And I thought Whitehead did well today too. You final point is a good one - do we really need him and Hogg in the same team? I would say no when we're at home, particularly when we are on top as we were in the second half. I know losing one or the other may leave us a bit more open, but surely we have to open up a bit more at home? The caution is not working at the moment. |
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Post by ACW on Aug 29, 2015 17:59:21 GMT 1
All this negative bull of having whitehead n hogg in the same team if it wasn't for hogg we would of got ripped apart tday my Mom. Covers so much. Our problem is no movement from the strikers always on their heels. Wells shit outside the six yard box Miller trys but not a first 11 player. Unlucky tday just toothless up top. Our lack of movement goes way beyond the strikers. The lack of support play for the wide men is criminal at times. How often is Scannell left do everything on his own? |
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Post by 3Pipe on Aug 29, 2015 18:01:00 GMT 1
Sorry pipes, but calling him an ex-England full back, this gets called too often, Not that he was a bad player, but he only got in there for what was it? 2 or 3 games? because he was probably the only english full back available at that time. Not trying to put down Powell's ability as a player, but just because someone plays in a certain position doesn't necessarily mean it will be their managerial strength.  Still, that was his gig wasn't it. You'd think he know a thing or two about position and marking your man. |
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Post by TheDalaiPharmer on Aug 29, 2015 18:09:10 GMT 1
Sorry pipes, but calling him an ex-England full back, this gets called too often, Not that he was a bad player, but he only got in there for what was it? 2 or 3 games? because he was probably the only english full back available at that time. Not trying to put down Powell's ability as a player, but just because someone plays in a certain position doesn't necessarily mean it will be their managerial strength. Still, that was his gig wasn't it. You'd think he know a thing or two about position and marking your man. I'll add this then, Kenny Dalglish, unbelievable attacking footballer, but a bloody god damn dour insipid football manager |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 18:10:08 GMT 1
Still, that was his gig wasn't it. You'd think he know a thing or two about position and marking your man. I'll add this then, Kenny Dalglish, unbelievable attacking footballer, but a bloody god damn dour insipid football manager With a Premier League title to his name |
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Post by 3Pipe on Aug 29, 2015 18:13:29 GMT 1
Still, that was his gig wasn't it. You'd think he know a thing or two about position and marking your man. I'll add this then, Kenny Dalglish, unbelievable attacking footballer, but a bloody god damn dour insipid football manager Bryan Robson, Lee Clark and his midfield, Paul Ince, I get your point amigo |
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Post by TheDalaiPharmer on Aug 29, 2015 18:16:34 GMT 1
I'll add this then, Kenny Dalglish, unbelievable attacking footballer, but a bloody god damn dour insipid football manager With a Premier League title to his name Yeah, With about £12 mill to spend on Shearer and Sutton plus others too, wish the premier league was exciting as it was back then. But Kenny did f all since then |
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Post by buckers on Aug 29, 2015 18:34:10 GMT 1
Everything comes down the right hand side because we have no attacking threat on the left.
The reason we don't have any attacking threat is because in a 4-4-2 set up we are playing 3 central midfielders and a right winger.
Now the 3 midfielders all had decent games. My problem was why not bring Muzzy (I can't spell his last name) a natural left winger on with 20 to go for one of the 3 centre mid's? In a 0-0 at home you shouldn't be taking (let's be honest) the only striker that will get us a goal for a winger!
On the whole we played well, BUT this is a results driven sport and unfortunately Mr. Powell the results aren't there. Time to start earning your money because that team of players is not that bad.
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Post by Big Ern on Aug 29, 2015 18:44:16 GMT 1
Must admit that after today's showing I would be resting Scanz and giving Lolley a real go. He looked a massive threat and has plenty of goals in him.
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Post by Mr Breitside on Aug 29, 2015 21:58:29 GMT 1
A question for those at the game please:
How did our fitness look today ? My concern is that we are so knackered in the last ten mins we concede.
Thanks for any genuine replies.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 22:09:02 GMT 1
Don't flatter yourself Marcus. I didn't just 'pop in here' to slag you off... I'm just waiting for the 10 game mark before suggesting where we're likely to end up. It might be illogical for more negative folk to think we might actually win, let's say 3 of the next 5 games and then we'd be on at least 12 points and probably somewhere near mid table. From what others on here have said it sounds like we didn't play too much bad football but the fact we didn't have any teeth in the final third is the main reason we didn't get a point??? At what point do you give up on the happy clapping and realise the plug has been pulled and we are heading for League 1? 10 games? OK fine. Where will we be at 10 games in? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 22:16:37 GMT 1
some morons on this site. let just keep changing manager. Or maybe, rather than paying off the cheap option every 18 months, we could actually sign one who wasn't a reject from a team at the same or lower level? |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Aug 29, 2015 22:20:41 GMT 1
Couldn't make it today.. Did we win?? No?  |
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Post by Big Ern on Aug 29, 2015 22:28:38 GMT 1
A question for those at the game please: How did our fitness look today ? My concern is that we are so knackered in the last ten mins we concede. Thanks for any genuine replies. I thought we looked fit and apart from a 5 minute spell when they scored we looked a better team. Just our attacking play that let us down. |
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Post by wigster on Aug 29, 2015 22:36:34 GMT 1
A question for those at the game please: How did our fitness look today ? My concern is that we are so knackered in the last ten mins we concede. Thanks for any genuine replies. Once again ciyorkie we were struggling - at 70 minutes you looked at certain players - Miller,Scannell,Smith,Whitehead to name just some - and they were either blowing or "taking a rest" ie they were NOT fit for the full 90 minutes - I'm sure we'll be told that so-and-so wasn't fit/carrying an injury/missed pre-season (when,for example IS Miller going to be fit ?)etc etc but it's noticeable that the players that have the obvious fitness/stamina this season, not just today, are those that we imported from outside eg Davidson,Cranie. To me, it seems that in most of the matches this season the opposition have got stronger and stronger as the second half wears on - this may well be the often previously quoted fact that they increasingly realise we're they're for the taking but also reflects our lack of fitness. If you looked at their goal they had four players who had sprinted up the field to attack our box (watch how their scorer gained a few yards on Smith) - we would never do this - we're not fit enough and brave/positive enough. I know it will sound yet again as though I'm being critical because we've lost at home yet again but how many times do we watch a match, home or away, and just see that the opposition are getting stronger as the second half goes on and will score - it's not a rare event. It may be because we seem happy with possible draws but I think that it's also a lack of fitness. It's easy to say but I think there's no way a Warnock or a Buxton would be happy with what we're seeing. |
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Post by Mr Breitside on Aug 29, 2015 23:01:09 GMT 1
Thanks for both replies although quite different.
If we aren't as fit as we could be then the players will be mentally tired as well as physically and this can lead to errors.
The one thing we can affect is fitness, so let's make sure we are not short in this department.
Overall it sounds like we put in a decent performance today but we're lacking a cutting edge. Is it a striker issue or is it a lack of support from midfield..? That is for Powell to resolve, let's hope he does it quickly.
I must admit I thought we needed new defenders in more than anything, now I am thinking a striker, as Vaughan looks a write off as something has clearly gone wrong behind the scenes.
No panic just yet but we can't continue much longer with these results.
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Post by joshuajones on Aug 31, 2015 9:40:33 GMT 1
Fitness has been an issue all summer I think. I went to every friendly except Barnsley and we looked short fitness wise in every game we played and it still looks the case now a month into the season.
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Aug 31, 2015 16:44:20 GMT 1
Hope someone has mentioned how good the South Stand were in this match. Apart from play off games perhaps this was just about the best noise created at a Town home match since Leeds Road days.
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