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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2015 10:03:38 GMT 1
Town were the best team in a game yesterday. Wrong!! I will say this one last time, you may feel Town were the best team yesterday, and in specific areas they may well have been.....But in the one crucial area of the game, where it is paramount you are better than your oppositon in order to win a game we were in fact second best, hence we lost the game, so the best team won Once again, they did better than us in what was required to win the game, and that was to score goals. Boxing is a great example, 2 warriors go toe to toe, one out boxes his opponent for 11 rounds and then steps out for the 12th, lets his guard down for a spilt second and the next thing he knows he is laid ringside surrounded by pink elephants and dancing hippos. Was he the better fighter, techincally, but he wasn't when it came to what is required to win the fight, the knockout blow, the killer instinct. Hence the best man won the fight, because he did better than his opponent what was required to win, and that was knock him the fuck out. Well if you're judging on results and scoreline then obviously Town were second best. I don't really care *that* much about the score line, it's usually a factor of hairline random outcomes that swing your way or not over the course of a season. What I care about, as a Town supporter, is seeing a reasonably well organised team doing their best, even if that means playing and being beaten by teams who are simply "better at scoring and not conceding" than we are. What I saw yesterday was a game where a draw would have been fair, and a home victory not that undeserved out unexpected on the balance of play... and if we keep on playing to that standard, then we'll be safe by February, and finish where I expect us to finish, somewhere between 20th and 13th. Changing the manager isn't going to make significant difference, we are the club we are, and will continue to be. What you should be doing, is applauding one of the best performances in the last 36 months, and thinking... "Yeah, we'll lose a few, but we're heading in the right general direction...still...as we have been doing for the last 5 years". And stop moaning about the lack of a 100% victory record... Changing the manager, even if we brought Alex Ferguson out of retirement, WOULDN'T deliver what you seem to expect. We were the better team yesterday... In terms of performance, organisation, application, desire to press for a win and effort in forcing opposition in possession under pressure to force mistakes and win the ball back. There are what I want to see from Town, goals and clean sheets are a bonus that come along if you continue performing to a high standard. By EVERY measure except goal scoring and conceding, we WERE better... Anyone could see that.
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Post by benhomly on Aug 30, 2015 10:14:13 GMT 1
QPR will argue it was the perfect away performance, soak up what little we had to offer and make sure you take your chance when it comes your way. That's exactly what happened and sure as eggs is eggs they would get at least one good chance against Town.
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Post by wtd on Aug 30, 2015 10:32:52 GMT 1
Didn't you write us off at exactly the same stage last season? Thought you and a few more might have learned summat! This isn't writing us off, this is saying , if you want to have a more comfortable season than chewing your fingernails to the bone come April/May time, do something now, prevent before you have to cure. How much longer can we continue being the hard luck story. We are the the perennial underachievers and sooner or later you become tired of that. When are we finally as a club going to say,right, bollocks to the future consequences, we will deal with them when we have to, but for one season only we are going to throw caution to the wind and give theses long suffering supporters what they deserve. Or are we going to continually aim for anything 21st place and above as our target and class that as success. If you'd been there yesterday Darren you would have been able to see with your own eyes how very close we are to being a very decent Championship side. Same second half v Brighton (who ARE a very, VERY decent side!). We are perhaps only one (albeit very important) acquisition away from being that side. I'd highly recommend this, rather than relying on the hearsay of the 'I want it all and I want it NOW!' posters you are obviously having to base things on. I agree that results are the thing that matter ultimately, but they are not the WHOLE story at present. We were FAR from relegation fodder yesterday and some people must think the season ends in November! Let's just see what evolves in the next few days (even weeks with regards loans), shall we? I think we could then turn a corner very quickly.
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Aug 30, 2015 10:41:40 GMT 1
What a cretin of a keyboard warrior. I assume your Mother kept you at home today. The midfield put Wells and Miller is many decent positions around the box. A pair of sharp strikers in those positions would have taken defenders on and we would have created something from them. Unfortunately, as hard as they worked, Wells and Miller can't deliver the goods. Mind you the £15mm striker on their side did even less. Far too many people on here know who i am for me to be a keyboard warrior. Why is it that anytime someone speaks the truth , they are deemed to be a keyboard warrior. My analogy was simply to point out that we didnt have a sharp striker in and around the box, and i am assuming you refer to Austin in the 15m striker that did less? If so, it quite obviously means they had enough class on the field to gain the advantage required to win the game, and that my friend is the difference between great and good. As for your sarcastic remark about my mother keeping me at home yesterday. I have more pressing issues at hand than to be worrying about Huddersfield Town, on a Saturday afternoon. But it once was my life, my passion,travelling the length and breadth of the country, spending countless thousands going to places like St James Park and the Withdean on a Tuesday evening. In those days though, i actually felt like the players wanted to play for the club, had pride in the shirt and the manager was committed to trying to win everygame. Hence when they came off the field, win lose or draw, they had actually tried their best. No longer is that the case. Well my friend - if you had gone yesterday you may have had a more penetrating insight than we lost therefore we are shite.
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Post by buckers on Aug 30, 2015 10:50:11 GMT 1
Lets go with simplistic. No wins in 10, not more than a single goal in 7, not been the best team in a game this season, a team that play Ishmael Miller who would struggle in the Vanarama. Simplistic...but true. We were best today, and at Fulham and arguably against Brighton you cretin. I thought we were the better team yesterday as well.
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Post by rocky on Aug 30, 2015 11:05:27 GMT 1
We were best today, and at Fulham and arguably against Brighton you cretin. I thought we were the better team yesterday as well. Me too mate & that's why it was so disappointing to lose yesterday. The fact that we more than held our own against a team that's cost a fortune to assemble, does give hope looking forward, but it goes without saying that we have to find more goals. The defensive side of things has improved this season, but it's come at the expense of the attack. JV apparently leaving makes the situation far worse & Town must have plans to replace him.
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Post by Colt Seavers on Aug 30, 2015 11:29:15 GMT 1
This isn't writing us off, this is saying , if you want to have a more comfortable season than chewing your fingernails to the bone come April/May time, do something now, prevent before you have to cure. How much longer can we continue being the hard luck story. We are the the perennial underachievers and sooner or later you become tired of that. When are we finally as a club going to say,right, bollocks to the future consequences, we will deal with them when we have to, but for one season only we are going to throw caution to the wind and give theses long suffering supporters what they deserve. Or are we going to continually aim for anything 21st place and above as our target and class that as success. If you'd been there yesterday Darren you would have been able to see with your own eyes how very close we are to being a very decent Championship side. Same second half v Brighton (who ARE a very, VERY decent side!). We are perhaps only one (albeit very important) acquisition away from being that side. I'd highly recommend this, rather than relying on the hearsay of the 'I want it all and I want it NOW!' posters you are obviously having to base things on. I agree that results are the thing that matter ultimately, but they are not the WHOLE story at present. We were FAR from relegation fodder yesterday and some people must think the season ends in November! Let's just see what evolves in the next few days (even weeks with regards loans), shall we? I think we could then turn a corner very quickly. I went to Hull, one of few games i will probably manage this season. I agree, i saw enough in 20 mins of the second half there suggest we do have the team that can comfortably finish mid table. But applying yourself for 90 minutes is what it is all about and not 20 minutes or 45. Had we held on yesterday and at Fulham, would we be having this conversation, probably not, we would be saying 6 points and 13th place is exactly where we want to be, instead we find ourselves winless, 3 points and in a relegation spot. It is very fine margins at the end of the day, but it is been on the right side of those margins that can determine future success, and for too many years we haven't been on the right side. Every year seems to be "If" we only had this player or that player. As i stated earlier, we are not a club that can attract those types of players. We have to attract what we can and then turn that person in to the type of player we required, mentally, physically and technically. That is where a good strong personality led manager comes into the equation, of which i am sorry Powell for me just isn't that man. Ive been a Town fan 40 years, my 2 kids are Town fans, hopefully as will there kids. When will we see the success again at Huddersfield that our forefathers experienced? I'm not certain it will happen in my lifetime are you? I'm all for stability and doing things the right way, but even then sometimes you have to take the bull by the horns and say fuck it, for one night only, were going for the Full Monty.(little film related quip to end off for you Reece)
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Post by rocky on Aug 30, 2015 11:35:59 GMT 1
Ive been a Town fan 40 years, my 2 kids are Town fans, hopefully as will there kids. When will we see the success again at Huddersfield that our forefathers experienced? I'm not certain it will happen in my lifetime are you? This is what gets to me about being a Town fan - we never, ever seem to have any success. For a Town the size of our, our record in the last 40 years is truly abysmal, highlighted by the fact that last season's 16th finish in Division 2 was our 3rd best since 1971! Oh & no cup quarter final appearances since then. We certainly drew the short straw when it came to footballing allegiances!
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Post by 3Pipe on Aug 30, 2015 11:37:36 GMT 1
Full Monty? Wrong Sheffield film.
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Aug 30, 2015 11:39:19 GMT 1
This isn't writing us off, this is saying , if you want to have a more comfortable season than chewing your fingernails to the bone come April/May time, do something now, prevent before you have to cure. How much longer can we continue being the hard luck story. We are the the perennial underachievers and sooner or later you become tired of that. When are we finally as a club going to say,right, bollocks to the future consequences, we will deal with them when we have to, but for one season only we are going to throw caution to the wind and give theses long suffering supporters what they deserve. Or are we going to continually aim for anything 21st place and above as our target and class that as success. If you'd been there yesterday Darren you would have been able to see with your own eyes how very close we are to being a very decent Championship side. Same second half v Brighton (who ARE a very, VERY decent side!). We are perhaps only one (albeit very important) acquisition away from being that side. I'd highly recommend this, rather than relying on the hearsay of the 'I want it all and I want it NOW!' posters you are obviously having to base things on. I agree that results are the thing that matter ultimately, but they are not the WHOLE story at present. We were FAR from relegation fodder yesterday and some people must think the season ends in November! Let's just see what evolves in the next few days (even weeks with regards loans), shall we? I think we could then turn a corner very quickly. What is annoying is that we are not taking advantage of the poor quality of the opposition - thought Blackburn, Fulham and QPR were all poor. Didn't go to Brighton game. Hull difficult to judge but I thought they were nothing to be afraid of. You expressed it more eloquently but that's what I meant in my original comment about a couple of sharp strikers - we are that close to turning a corner. Course if Butterfield wazzas off we will be a good bit further off.
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Post by wtd on Aug 30, 2015 11:50:45 GMT 1
If you'd been there yesterday Darren you would have been able to see with your own eyes how very close we are to being a very decent Championship side. Same second half v Brighton (who ARE a very, VERY decent side!). We are perhaps only one (albeit very important) acquisition away from being that side. I'd highly recommend this, rather than relying on the hearsay of the 'I want it all and I want it NOW!' posters you are obviously having to base things on. I agree that results are the thing that matter ultimately, but they are not the WHOLE story at present. We were FAR from relegation fodder yesterday and some people must think the season ends in November! Let's just see what evolves in the next few days (even weeks with regards loans), shall we? I think we could then turn a corner very quickly. I went to Hull, one of few games i will probably manage this season. I agree, i saw enough in 20 mins of the second half there suggest we do have the team that can comfortably finish mid table. But applying yourself for 90 minutes is what it is all about and not 20 minutes or 45. Had we held on yesterday and at Fulham, would we be having this conversation, probably not, we would be saying 6 points and 13th place is exactly where we want to be, instead we find ourselves winless, 3 points and in a relegation spot. It is very fine margins at the end of the day, but it is been on the right side of those margins that can determine future success, and for too many years we haven't been on the right side. Every year seems to be "If" we only had this player or that player. As i stated earlier, we are not a club that can attract those types of players. We have to attract what we can and then turn that person in to the type of player we required, mentally, physically and technically. That is where a good strong personality led manager comes into the equation, of which i am sorry Powell for me just isn't that man. Ive been a Town fan 40 years, my 2 kids are Town fans, hopefully as will there kids. When will we see the success again at Huddersfield that our forefathers experienced? I'm not certain it will happen in my lifetime are you? I'm all for stability and doing things the right way, but even then sometimes you have to take the bull by the horns and say fuck it, for one night only, were going for the Full Monty.(little film related quip to end off for you Reece) I hear you... but we are so close to being a decent side that it is truly absurd that some fans/posters continue to paint a picture of us being so abject and so far behind the required standard of the division. We are simply not. Fine margins, as you say. A tweak here and there and they will soon turn our way.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Aug 30, 2015 12:04:54 GMT 1
I went to Hull, one of few games i will probably manage this season. I agree, i saw enough in 20 mins of the second half there suggest we do have the team that can comfortably finish mid table. But applying yourself for 90 minutes is what it is all about and not 20 minutes or 45. Had we held on yesterday and at Fulham, would we be having this conversation, probably not, we would be saying 6 points and 13th place is exactly where we want to be, instead we find ourselves winless, 3 points and in a relegation spot. It is very fine margins at the end of the day, but it is been on the right side of those margins that can determine future success, and for too many years we haven't been on the right side. Every year seems to be "If" we only had this player or that player. As i stated earlier, we are not a club that can attract those types of players. We have to attract what we can and then turn that person in to the type of player we required, mentally, physically and technically. That is where a good strong personality led manager comes into the equation, of which i am sorry Powell for me just isn't that man. Ive been a Town fan 40 years, my 2 kids are Town fans, hopefully as will there kids. When will we see the success again at Huddersfield that our forefathers experienced? I'm not certain it will happen in my lifetime are you? I'm all for stability and doing things the right way, but even then sometimes you have to take the bull by the horns and say fuck it, for one night only, were going for the Full Monty.(little film related quip to end off for you Reece) I hear you... but we are so close to being a decent side that it is truly absurd that some fans/posters continue to paint a picture of us being so abject and so far behind the required standard of the division. We are simply not. Fine margins, as you say. A tweak here and there and they will soon turn our way. wtd.. the 'tweak' required is one that Powell does not appear to want to make. The signings and sales may be of little consequence to the game plan. we have to start playing where the ball is, all over the pitch. If we dont then we will lose too many games, agreed it may well be by fine margins on occasions but the points will be lost. It looks like we are making progress but its a plaster on a big cut and making us harder to beat has to be in tandem with using tactics more often that will make it more possible to win games. We are certainly 'staying in' games but the problem is that in our home games the opposition are very likely to be happy with that approach, as the QPR boss stated yesterday they were looking not to lose and hoping an opportunity would come, they got one good one and took it.. We did not concede yesterday by over committing..
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 30, 2015 12:13:26 GMT 1
I agree with you to a point WTD... We are competitive and overall I was happy with what I saw yesterday.. But we are beginning to make a habit of being " unlucky" and unlucky teams go down... Also, for all that yesterday was good, we didn't have enough cutting edge ...IF ( and probably when) JB leaves the reinvestment of those funds to cover the key deficits determines our path for the season (in my opinion )
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Aug 30, 2015 12:37:23 GMT 1
I hear you... but we are so close to being a decent side that it is truly absurd that some fans/posters continue to paint a picture of us being so abject and so far behind the required standard of the division. We are simply not. Fine margins, as you say. A tweak here and there and they will soon turn our way. wtd.. the 'tweak' required is one that Powell does not appear to want to make. The signings and sales may be of little consequence to the game plan. we have to start playing where the ball is, all over the pitch. If we dont then we will lose too many games, agreed it may well be by fine margins on occasions but the points will be lost. It looks like we are making progress but its a plaster on a big cut and making us harder to beat has to be in tandem with using tactics more often that will make it more possible to win games. We are certainly 'staying in' games but the problem is that in our home games the opposition are very likely to be happy with that approach, as the QPR boss stated yesterday they were looking not to lose and hoping an opportunity would come, they got one good one and took it.. We did not concede yesterday by over committing.. I'm trying to figure out something about what's good for the goose is good for the gander and something along the lines of - its ok for QPR to sit back and hope for an opportunity? During the week their manager and a couple of their players were making a deal about going for the win big time at Huddersfield - not sitting back and waiting for an opportunity. Might have just been paper talk - or maybe it was paper talk from their manager afterwards because they didn't look as though they could have changed the game. I was surprised he took Wells off though - I think he could have sacrificed Whitehead to get the extra forward on.
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Post by y2troy on Aug 30, 2015 12:40:42 GMT 1
Just to add to this... Who would you like as manager who could build a team with a budget we have,compete like we do against multi million pound teams as we do week in week out ..Yeah he may not get right every time but he sets us up and if the players dont perform then sometimes as a manager you have to hold your hands up say i did all i could that day .Pretty much like yesterday.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Aug 30, 2015 12:56:53 GMT 1
wtd.. the 'tweak' required is one that Powell does not appear to want to make. The signings and sales may be of little consequence to the game plan. we have to start playing where the ball is, all over the pitch. If we dont then we will lose too many games, agreed it may well be by fine margins on occasions but the points will be lost. It looks like we are making progress but its a plaster on a big cut and making us harder to beat has to be in tandem with using tactics more often that will make it more possible to win games. We are certainly 'staying in' games but the problem is that in our home games the opposition are very likely to be happy with that approach, as the QPR boss stated yesterday they were looking not to lose and hoping an opportunity would come, they got one good one and took it.. We did not concede yesterday by over committing.. I'm trying to figure out something about what's good for the goose is good for the gander and something along the lines of - its ok for QPR to sit back and hope for an opportunity? During the week their manager and a couple of their players were making a deal about going for the win big time at Huddersfield - not sitting back and waiting for an opportunity. Might have just been paper talk - or maybe it was paper talk from their manager afterwards because they didn't look as though they could have changed the game. I was surprised he took Wells off though - I think he could have sacrificed Whitehead to get the extra forward on. they were away from home and have a great deal of speculation around a few players going on. we worked very hard and afforded them little time and space when they were going forward but we didnt do enough in their half. They could sit off and await an opportunity if it came and it did.. you just cant see what we have in central midfield getting beyond the ball in open play and making the extra man in a dangerous area.. We turned the ball over a number a times yesterday on or around the halfway line and we just didnt move it forward quick enough and have enough supporting it..
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 30, 2015 13:02:05 GMT 1
There was one move yesterday and the strikers were outnumbered about 2 to 7. I looked back up the pitch expecting someone to be busting a gut. Hogg and Whitehead were stood five yards from each other and parallel to each other, just inside their half. Stood ... not running.. Sometimes you have to show more attacking intent to win games.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2015 13:09:28 GMT 1
There was one move yesterday and the strikers were outnumbered about 2 to 7. I looked back up the pitch expecting someone to be busting a gut. Hogg and Whitehead were stood five yards from each other and parallel to each other, just inside their half. Stood ... not running.. Sometimes you have to show more attacking intent to win games. And there was another move, started by a Hogg interception in our penalty area, where we did one and two touch passing, a but of total magic from Lolley, and ended up with Whitehead and Hogg shifting it across the front of their box.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 30, 2015 13:17:17 GMT 1
There was one move yesterday and the strikers were outnumbered about 2 to 7. I looked back up the pitch expecting someone to be busting a gut. Hogg and Whitehead were stood five yards from each other and parallel to each other, just inside their half. Stood ... not running.. Sometimes you have to show more attacking intent to win games. And there was another move, started by a Hogg interception in our penalty area, where we did one and two touch passing, a but of total magic from Lolley, and ended up with Whitehead and Hogg shifting it across the front of their box. Indeed.. Whats your point? Ive praised both Hogg and Whitehead for their displays. I just wonder where our goals are coming from and AT TIMES I think we need to be more forward orientated. I was giving one example of when I thought we could be .
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2015 13:24:01 GMT 1
And there was another move, started by a Hogg interception in our penalty area, where we did one and two touch passing, a but of total magic from Lolley, and ended up with Whitehead and Hogg shifting it across the front of their box. Indeed.. Whats your point? Ive praised both Hogg and Whitehead for their displays. I just wonder where our goals are coming from and AT TIMES I think we need to be more forward orientated. I was giving one example of when I thought we could be . My point is that at times we play well and at other times we don't. We're a bottom half Championship team with the players we have, as a factor of the money that's made, and made available. It is what it is.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 30, 2015 13:32:50 GMT 1
Indeed.. Whats your point? Ive praised both Hogg and Whitehead for their displays. I just wonder where our goals are coming from and AT TIMES I think we need to be more forward orientated. I was giving one example of when I thought we could be . My point is that at times we play well and at other times we don't. We're a bottom half Championship team with the players we have, as a factor of the money that's made, and made available. It is what it is. of course. I was just giving one example though of an instance when maybe those two excellent performers might have shown more endeavour to help us win the game
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Aug 30, 2015 13:38:12 GMT 1
Just to add to this... Who would you like as manager who could build a team with a budget we have,compete like we do against multi million pound teams as we do week in week out ..Yeah he may not get right every time but he sets us up and if the players dont perform then sometimes as a manager you have to hold your hands up say i did all i could that day .Pretty much like yesterday. Fully agree - all the players yesterday did their best. Not really sure what more people can expect? QPR had a touch more quality that money can buy. That's life.
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Aug 30, 2015 13:51:38 GMT 1
Lessons learnt especially from last seasons failings say that there can be " little or no room " for error at championship level otherwise the team will be punished . The good news at the moment is that we seem to be surrounded by poorly managed, low budget mug teams in this seasons championship similar to those who help contribute to towns survival in recent seasons . The most important signings by the club will be those employees who can recognise the incoming talent that might keep town in the championship, plus vital that there are the right people in place who have the skills to motivate those already involved. This is a level where it seems that teams are only" as good as their results ".
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Aug 30, 2015 14:47:59 GMT 1
I'm trying to figure out something about what's good for the goose is good for the gander and something along the lines of - its ok for QPR to sit back and hope for an opportunity? During the week their manager and a couple of their players were making a deal about going for the win big time at Huddersfield - not sitting back and waiting for an opportunity. Might have just been paper talk - or maybe it was paper talk from their manager afterwards because they didn't look as though they could have changed the game. I was surprised he took Wells off though - I think he could have sacrificed Whitehead to get the extra forward on. they were away from home and have a great deal of speculation around a few players going on. we worked very hard and afforded them little time and space when they were going forward but we didnt do enough in their half. They could sit off and await an opportunity if it came and it did.. you just cant see what we have in central midfield getting beyond the ball in open play and making the extra man in a dangerous area.. We turned the ball over a number a times yesterday on or around the halfway line and we just didnt move it forward quick enough and have enough supporting it.. I agree - but it wasn't just weight of numbers or midfielders getting past forwards. It was the inability of Wells and Miller (and Scannell to some extent) to convert the possession they had between the box and the centre circle into opportunities.
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Post by townatheart on Aug 30, 2015 14:54:24 GMT 1
Oti - sometimes your posts are interesting whereas others are shite. This post is a whereas one And yours makes little sense Shorty. Opnions. Powell will NEVER be successful at Huddy. yep hang out the old "opinions" flag to justify whatever your agenda may be fair enough, but as the saying goes everyone has an opinion, and likewise they have a certain anatomical part that removes waste from the body ...............
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Post by Captainslapper on Aug 30, 2015 18:07:27 GMT 1
]I hear you... but we are so close to being a decent side that it is truly absurd that some fans/posters continue to paint a picture of us being so abject and so far behind the required standard of the division. We are simply not. Fine margins, as you say. A tweak here and there and they will soon turn our way. We are. Huws could well be a big part of an upturn. A highly rated left sided midfielder who should add some creativity. Once hes match fit id go with... ..........................Murphy Whitehead.....Craney....Lynch.......Davidson Scannell.......Hogg....Butterfield........Huws ...as our defence and midfield 4 Still think the front 2 need something- a goalscorer mainly! Another option is Lolley could take a central role just behind Wells maybe, but not having both Hogg and Whitehead in the middle should help us create more.
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Post by mightyterrier on Aug 30, 2015 18:59:42 GMT 1
I went to Hull, one of few games i will probably manage this season. I agree, i saw enough in 20 mins of the second half there suggest we do have the team that can comfortably finish mid table. But applying yourself for 90 minutes is what it is all about and not 20 minutes or 45. Had we held on yesterday and at Fulham, would we be having this conversation, probably not, we would be saying 6 points and 13th place is exactly where we want to be, instead we find ourselves winless, 3 points and in a relegation spot. It is very fine margins at the end of the day, but it is been on the right side of those margins that can determine future success, and for too many years we haven't been on the right side. Every year seems to be "If" we only had this player or that player. As i stated earlier, we are not a club that can attract those types of players. We have to attract what we can and then turn that person in to the type of player we required, mentally, physically and technically. That is where a good strong personality led manager comes into the equation, of which i am sorry Powell for me just isn't that man. Ive been a Town fan 40 years, my 2 kids are Town fans, hopefully as will there kids. When will we see the success again at Huddersfield that our forefathers experienced? I'm not certain it will happen in my lifetime are you? I'm all for stability and doing things the right way, but even then sometimes you have to take the bull by the horns and say fuck it, for one night only, were going for the Full Monty.(little film related quip to end off for you Reece) I hear you... but we are so close to being a decent side that it is truly absurd that some fans/posters continue to paint a picture of us being so abject and so far behind the required standard of the division. We are simply not. Fine margins, as you say. A tweak here and there and they will soon turn our way. I agree with this entirely and the other point is clearly that we will see what happens in the next few days, I fully expect us to sign a very good striker and if not permanently then we will bring one in on loan. The next few days will be very interesting.
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Post by upthetown on Aug 30, 2015 19:08:47 GMT 1
Oti has a point , we're all "happy" with the performance. But when you break it down we had 2 shots and 1 of those Green could have thrown his hat on. I think the general idea is that "he who wins dares" And Powell will never dare. He started with two strikers. He brought on two wingers (including Lolley that everyone is crying out for). Apart from Powell scoring the winner himself, what more should he have done? I thought we played well.
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Post by jimmymac on Aug 30, 2015 20:13:01 GMT 1
Rubbish. Today was a very solid performance that became more domineering from Town as time went on. Ultimately neither keeper was ultimately troubled, and QPR were able to capitalise on one of perhaps two chances they had in the entire game whereas we let ourselves down a bit on our three or four chances, which is what happens with a budget strikeforce (which is what Wells (and Miller) ultimately is, despite the transfer record). If we had QPRs strikers, we'd have won by two...if they had ours, it would have been 0-0. We're close. sorry nt but CLOSE is not good enough....end ov!!
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Post by jimmymac on Aug 30, 2015 20:15:38 GMT 1
Wrong!! I will say this one last time, you may feel Town were the best team yesterday, and in specific areas they may well have been.....But in the one crucial area of the game, where it is paramount you are better than your oppositon in order to win a game we were in fact second best, hence we lost the game, so the best team won Once again, they did better than us in what was required to win the game, and that was to score goals. Boxing is a great example, 2 warriors go toe to toe, one out boxes his opponent for 11 rounds and then steps out for the 12th, lets his guard down for a spilt second and the next thing he knows he is laid ringside surrounded by pink elephants and dancing hippos. Was he the better fighter, techincally, but he wasn't when it came to what is required to win the fight, the knockout blow, the killer instinct. Hence the best man won the fight, because he did better than his opponent what was required to win, and that was knock him the fuck out. Well if you're judging on results and scoreline then obviously Town were second best. I don't really care *that* much about the score line, it's usually a factor of hairline random outcomes that swing your way or not over the course of a season. What I care about, as a Town supporter, is seeing a reasonably well organised team doing their best, even if that means playing and being beaten by teams who are simply "better at scoring and not conceding" than we are. What I saw yesterday was a game where a draw would have been fair, and a home victory not that undeserved out unexpected on the balance of play... and if we keep on playing to that standard, then we'll be safe by February, and finish where I expect us to finish, somewhere between 20th and 13th. Changing the manager isn't going to make significant difference, we are the club we are, and will continue to be. What you should be doing, is applauding one of the best performances in the last 36 months, and thinking... "Yeah, we'll lose a few, but we're heading in the right general direction...still...as we have been doing for the last 5 years". And stop moaning about the lack of a 100% victory record... Changing the manager, even if we brought Alex Ferguson out of retirement, WOULDN'T deliver what you seem to expect. We were the better team yesterday... In terms of performance, organisation, application, desire to press for a win and effort in forcing opposition in possession under pressure to force mistakes and win the ball back. There are what I want to see from Town, goals and clean sheets are a bonus that come along if you continue performing to a high standard. By EVERY measure except goal scoring and conceding, we WERE better... Anyone could see that. result that counts and we lost again....fine line,fine margin,very close yes........but I,m afraid we lost another football match....
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