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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2015 18:29:41 GMT 1
Ok let's not try and make any good of this deal by trying to dress it up with pretty whistles and bells,this is bad business especially if the reported figures are close to the mark,it's bad for the club,it's bad for the manager and it leaves the chairman with egg on his face whom I'm rapidly losing faith with and before everyone jumps down my throat on the negativity bandwagon the simple fact is we are yet again selling the type of player we should be building a team around, How do we ever settle with a balanced squad when the key components are constantly removed,if this deal happens then it will be a dark day for HTFC,I seriously feel the chairman is preparing for L1 next season Total piffle
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Post by Tez on Aug 31, 2015 18:29:30 GMT 1
He is a tool if he doesn't and just sticks Huws in there. Clueless. KD did enough vs County in the cup game to let him have a start in the league What if Huws is better than Dempsey? Considering KD is our player and Huws on loan at this moment would prefer to see us give KD a chance.
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Post by ACW on Aug 31, 2015 18:30:11 GMT 1
what happens if he stays fit and has a great season.. for fucks sake stop with this 'what if they get injured shit'... we replace Butterfield with 2 lesser mortals who both stay fit and are shit and we get relegated.. or both get injured as we fall apart in front of less than 10k ?? tell you what lets sell everyone just in case they get injured..your argument if total fucking rubbish.. lets SAVE MONEY and try like shit to wing it and hope..Thats the approach, we all fucking know it, just be honest and accept it.. We're not saving money, we're making money which helps us improve overall. Only if it is invested wisely. We did this when we got Coady and Butterfield to replace Norwood and Clayton. Lets hope we invest the Butterfield money just ad well.
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Post by townatheart on Aug 31, 2015 18:30:17 GMT 1
I wasn't bothered when we sold Clayton, Norwood and Coady, but Butterfield is a different kettle of fish. Didn't the Chairman say he wouldn't be sold? And I'm sick of hearing his favourite sentence: 'We are where we we are' - this sounds defeatist to my ears. If Butterfield goes, it will be as bad as selling Stewart! But no doubt 'the Accountant' will be pleased. No, he didn't. He said that EVERY PLAYER has his price. Why can't people understand this simple fact? because it does not fit into an agenda of being miserable oh, and at the moment I am not either happy or clapping to be fair
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Post by 3Pipe on Aug 31, 2015 18:30:40 GMT 1
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Post by Giggity on Aug 31, 2015 18:31:05 GMT 1
No relevance whatsoever. Butterfield wasn't wanted at Middlesbrough. Here he is our key man. Basic economics. And when we replace him for far less money what will be your take on basic economics then? We will be paying over the odds for any promising player coming in now. They will hold us to ransom just like we should have done to Derby. Poor timing. The only replacement I can see is an old clogger rotting in a Championship team's ressies or a loanee.
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Post by townatheart on Aug 31, 2015 18:32:59 GMT 1
What if Huws is better than Dempsey? Considering KD is our player and Huws on loan at this moment would prefer to see us give KD a chance. and what if huws is a better player who will give more to the team in terms of getting some sort of success on the pitch? what would you do then? and to be fair, I do not know if he is or isn't, but will remain open before making up my mind based on a few glimpses of a player
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Post by cowshed73 on Aug 31, 2015 18:33:27 GMT 1
Ok let's not try and make any good of this deal by trying to dress it up with pretty whistles and bells,this is bad business especially if the reported figures are close to the mark,it's bad for the club,it's bad for the manager and it leaves the chairman with egg on his face whom I'm rapidly losing faith with and before everyone jumps down my throat on the negativity bandwagon the simple fact is we are yet again selling the type of player we should be building a team around, How do we ever settle with a balanced squad when the key components are constantly removed,if this deal happens then it will be a dark day for HTFC,I seriously feel the chairman is preparing for L1 next season Total piffle piffle?? Explain
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Post by 3Pipe on Aug 31, 2015 18:34:57 GMT 1
What if Huws is better than Dempsey? Wash your mouth out young man!
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Post by townatheart on Aug 31, 2015 18:35:02 GMT 1
And when we replace him for far less money what will be your take on basic economics then? We will be paying over the odds for any promising player coming in now. They will hold us to ransom just like we should have done to Derby. oh no, it can't be true -- but that first sentence -- damned if I dont actually agree with something giggity has posted what a day
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Post by jimmymac on Aug 31, 2015 18:35:38 GMT 1
Who ever we get in will be crap too....no matter what.....we lose..we fail....we lose we fail to deliver....season after season after season.....gone on for years and years....never recovered from getting relegated in 1972.....we,ve been shit....even the couple of fluky promotions we,ve had.....we,ve been lucky.....week after week we lose....or draw.....never a consistent run of wins... Load of shite ....sorry if I,v offended anyone who reads this within the club but that's how I see it....not blaming anyone....no names ect ect....i just know its very hard for us to win football matches.....all fact what I,v just said....i don't make it up and I don't tell lies.....nobody can argue with what I,v just said.....tell it from the heart me...no fking about....straight to the point.....we will always be shit.....full stop.....
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Post by Yorkie on Aug 31, 2015 18:36:25 GMT 1
So it's taken 4/5 bids for Derby to get up to 3.5? I doubt that very much. Keep everyone (including Vaughan, scores better than 1 in 3) and spend the Smithies money paying Powell off and that'll do for me.
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Aug 31, 2015 18:37:25 GMT 1
What if Huws is better than Dempsey? Considering KD is our player and Huws on loan at this moment would prefer to see us give KD a chance. What about if Huws is miles better than Dempsey I've got no idea - but hope the coaching staff do. I've seen Dempsey play for about 25 minutes and Huws not at all.
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Post by rocky on Aug 31, 2015 18:38:02 GMT 1
I wasn't bothered when we sold Clayton, Norwood and Coady, but Butterfield is a different kettle of fish. Didn't the Chairman say he wouldn't be sold? And I'm sick of hearing his favourite sentence: 'We are where we we are' - this sounds defeatist to my ears. If Butterfield goes, it will be as bad as selling Stewart! But no doubt 'the Accountant' will be pleased. No, he didn't. He said that EVERY PLAYER has his price. Why can't people understand this simple fact? Because they don't want to. No matter how many times Hoyle (or Powell for that matter) says something, there will always be those with their 'let's rip into the club at every opportunity' agenda, who try & change it into something completely different.
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Aug 31, 2015 18:38:43 GMT 1
What if Huws is better than Dempsey? Wash your mouth out young man! Just combing my beard.
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Post by mightyterrier on Aug 31, 2015 18:39:07 GMT 1
Who ever we get in will be crap too....no matter what.....we lose..we fail....we lose we fail to deliver....season after season after season.....gone on for years and years....never recovered from getting relegated in 1972.....we,ve been shit....even the couple of fluky promotions we,ve had.....we,ve been lucky.....week after week we lose....or draw.....never a consistent run of wins... Load of shite ....sorry if I,v offended anyone who reads this within the club but that's how I see it....not blaming anyone....no names ect ect....i just know its very hard for us to win football matches.....all fact what I,v just said....i don't make it up and I don't tell lies.....nobody can argue with what I,v just said.....tell it from the heart me...no fking about....straight to the point.....we will always be shit.....full stop..... Lol Priceless, I think there's plenty of room argument
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Post by jimmymac on Aug 31, 2015 18:41:05 GMT 1
Who ever we get in will be crap too....no matter what.....we lose..we fail....we lose we fail to deliver....season after season after season.....gone on for years and years....never recovered from getting relegated in 1972.....we,ve been shit....even the couple of fluky promotions we,ve had.....we,ve been lucky.....week after week we lose....or draw.....never a consistent run of wins... Load of shite ....sorry if I,v offended anyone who reads this within the club but that's how I see it....not blaming anyone....no names ect ect....i just know its very hard for us to win football matches.....all fact what I,v just said....i don't make it up and I don't tell lies.....nobody can argue with what I,v just said.....tell it from the heart me...no fking about....straight to the point.....we will always be shit.....full stop..... Lol Priceless, I think there's plenty of room argument lol.lol.lol.....results don't lie my friend......
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Post by Tez on Aug 31, 2015 18:41:54 GMT 1
Considering KD is our player and Huws on loan at this moment would prefer to see us give KD a chance. and what if huws is a better player who will give more to the team in terms of getting some sort of success on the pitch? what would you do then? and to be fair, I do not know if he is or isn't, but will remain open before making up my mind based on a few glimpses of a player Lot of what ifs on both sides of our viewpoints! Point is Powell has lot of midfielders to choose from.. Hope he gets a defender and striker in asap
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Post by kennyk2 on Aug 31, 2015 18:41:54 GMT 1
Who ever we get in will be crap too....no matter what.....we lose..we fail....we lose we fail to deliver....season after season after season.....gone on for years and years....never recovered from getting relegated in 1972.....we,ve been shit....even the couple of fluky promotions we,ve had.....we,ve been lucky.....week after week we lose....or draw.....never a consistent run of wins... Load of shite ....sorry if I,v offended anyone who reads this within the club but that's how I see it....not blaming anyone....no names ect ect....i just know its very hard for us to win football matches.....all fact what I,v just said....i don't make it up and I don't tell lies.....nobody can argue with what I,v just said.....tell it from the heart me...no fking about....straight to the point.....we will always be shit.....full stop..... Hide the rope and take away his bootlaces, just to be on the safe side
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Post by jimmymac on Aug 31, 2015 18:43:52 GMT 1
Who ever we get in will be crap too....no matter what.....we lose..we fail....we lose we fail to deliver....season after season after season.....gone on for years and years....never recovered from getting relegated in 1972.....we,ve been shit....even the couple of fluky promotions we,ve had.....we,ve been lucky.....week after week we lose....or draw.....never a consistent run of wins... Load of shite ....sorry if I,v offended anyone who reads this within the club but that's how I see it....not blaming anyone....no names ect ect....i just know its very hard for us to win football matches.....all fact what I,v just said....i don't make it up and I don't tell lies.....nobody can argue with what I,v just said.....tell it from the heart me...no fking about....straight to the point.....we will always be shit.....full stop..... Hide the rope and take away his bootlaces, just to be on the safe side lol.lol.lol.....i,m off to top mi sen...bbbbbyyyyyeeeeeee aaarrrrggghhhhhhhh
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Post by kennyk2 on Aug 31, 2015 18:44:33 GMT 1
Unpalatable as it is losing Butterfield, at this stage it would be just as unpalatable keeping him. £3.5-4 million? Whether he stayed with us or whilst playing for Derby, he could do his knee ligaments in the next game.
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Post by portugalterrier on Aug 31, 2015 18:44:55 GMT 1
In the grand scheme of things football is a game,it's not life or death,yes we get lows and highs,probably more lows but life goes on,get a grip and if Town and the comings and goings are ruining you life you really want to give your head a shake.Do you honestly think Coady,Smithies,Butterfield ,Rhodes etc etc give a fuck about you ,move on.
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Post by mightyterrier on Aug 31, 2015 18:45:06 GMT 1
Lol Priceless, I think there's plenty of room argument lol.lol.lol.....results don't lie my friend...... Results don't lie but your so called facts are quite simply not facts they are your opinion and your entitled to it, but I certainly don't see it the same way and therefore as I see it there's plenty of room for argument
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Post by jimmymac on Aug 31, 2015 18:47:56 GMT 1
In the grand scheme of things football is a game,it's not life or death,yes we get lows and highs,probably more lows but life goes on,get a grip and if Town and the comings and goings are ruining you life you really want to give your head a shake.Do you honestly think Coady,Smithies,Butterfield ,Rhodes etc etc give a fuck about you ,move on. your right pal.....but its more than a game....its a matter of life and death......it fk,s your life up especially this football club....ha ha.....
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Post by kennyk2 on Aug 31, 2015 18:48:50 GMT 1
I wasn't bothered when we sold Clayton, Norwood and Coady, but Butterfield is a different kettle of fish. Didn't the Chairman say he wouldn't be sold? And I'm sick of hearing his favourite sentence: 'We are where we we are' - this sounds defeatist to my ears. If Butterfield goes, it will be as bad as selling Stewart! But no doubt 'the Accountant' will be pleased. Not quite. I won't be waking up in a cold sweat for a month thinking about the Butterfield transfer. The king is dead, long live the king. Interesting who we sign. Perhaps in 24 hours Butterfield will be a distant memory.
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Post by jimmymac on Aug 31, 2015 18:50:20 GMT 1
lol.lol.lol.....results don't lie my friend...... Results don't lie but your so called facts are quite simply not facts they are your opinion and your entitled to it, but I certainly don't see it the same way and therefore as I see it there's plenty of room for argument ok...here goes.....we are 3rd bottom of the league with 3 points....at this moment in time that says to me we are not very good?is that a fact or am I lieing?
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Post by Tez on Aug 31, 2015 18:51:54 GMT 1
Results don't lie but your so called facts are quite simply not facts they are your opinion and your entitled to it, but I certainly don't see it the same way and therefore as I see it there's plenty of room for argument ok...here goes.....we are 3rd bottom of the league with 3 points....at this moment in time that says to me we are not very good?is that a fact or am I lieing? 3 points out of a possible 15 is dire and relegation form. Seasons are best in mini groups of games. Next 5 could do with 8-12 points return... Confident? I know I ain't
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Post by richhtfc on Aug 31, 2015 18:55:40 GMT 1
Results don't lie but your so called facts are quite simply not facts they are your opinion and your entitled to it, but I certainly don't see it the same way and therefore as I see it there's plenty of room for argument ok...here goes.....we are 3rd bottom of the league with 3 points....at this moment in time that says to me we are not very good?is that a fact or am I lieing? You're not lying you're just forgetting that we played pretty well in most of those matches and 3 of the teams we played are in top 4. Show some faith for gods sake.
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Post by thomo on Aug 31, 2015 18:56:45 GMT 1
Massive 24 hours. We need to bring in 3 quality players to achieve the mid table finish we've been sold. Hope they're ours not loans too. Let's build for the future not for the short term
We relied so heavily on butts for creativity it's gonna take a very special player to replace him. Over to you deano!
A few more defeats in next few weeks and things could get very ugly indeed.
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Post by portugalterrier on Aug 31, 2015 18:57:10 GMT 1
If you mirror this seasons results with last seasons team by team I think you see we are plus 1 point at this moment in time.,
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