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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Sept 1, 2015 16:35:30 GMT 1
Just in.. Bit gutted tbh. Don't understand what the plan and direction is ? Two strikers left Wow. Hope The new Bloke who gets players in is working hard today to bring new striker, new defender and top midfielder in ?? Why gutted, Nick? Hamill a waste of space. Vaughan, as you say, costing way too much for what we get out of him. Butterfield WANTED to leave and join Derby from the moment they came in. I already knew that a fortnight ago. Why bother trying to keep someone who patently doesn't want to stay? Great price! Move on! Ok, but we need new players, we have two or one and half strikers with Miller. No attacking midfielder now,
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Post by mightyterrier on Sept 1, 2015 16:41:29 GMT 1
Just in.. Bit gutted tbh. Don't understand what the plan and direction is ? Two strikers left Wow. Hope The new Bloke who gets players in is working hard today to bring new striker, new defender and top midfielder in ?? Why gutted, Nick? Hammill a waste of space. Vaughan, as you say, costing way too much for what we get out of him. Butterfield WANTED to leave and join Derby from the moment they came in. I already knew that a fortnight ago. Why bother trying to keep someone who patently doesn't want to stay? Great price! Move on! To be fair Mansfield I have a quar old pop at Nick much of the time but on this occasion he's simply stating how a number of fans feel, I'm a bit gutted at Butters going tbh, I know why he has gone and I get it but I enjoyed watching him play and we were always better with him in the team, I also I don't really understand the plan to replace but it may all be much clearer in an hour and 20....here's hoping
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Post by Pilgrim Terrier on Sept 1, 2015 16:45:22 GMT 1
If it's any consolation - wolves fans don't rate Coady at all lol Are you sure? Last I saw they were all raving about how good he was! My next door neighbour is a Wolves fan and he rates Coady as their best summer signing.
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Post by upthetown on Sept 1, 2015 16:57:51 GMT 1
My neighbour doesn't follow football... The lucky sod!
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Sept 1, 2015 17:02:17 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2015 17:28:57 GMT 1
Why gutted, Nick? Hammill a waste of space. Vaughan, as you say, costing way too much for what we get out of him. Butterfield WANTED to leave and join Derby from the moment they came in. I already knew that a fortnight ago. Why bother trying to keep someone who patently doesn't want to stay? Great price! Move on! To be fair Mansfield I have a quar old pop at Nick much of the time but on this occasion he's simply stating how a number of fans feel, I'm a bit gutted at Butters going tbh, I know why he has gone and I get it but I enjoyed watching him play and we were always better with him in the team, I also I don't really understand the plan to replace but it may all be much clearer in an hour and 20....here's hoping the replacement wont be in this window loan window probably but get of deans back town fans players and agents dictate .that is a fact
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Post by harrytown on Sept 1, 2015 17:52:10 GMT 1
why is hoyle above criticism.when you say agents and players dictate they didn't were smithies is concerned.Towns current probs lay squarely in the board room.
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Post by mightyterrier on Sept 1, 2015 17:52:06 GMT 1
To be fair Mansfield I have a quar old pop at Nick much of the time but on this occasion he's simply stating how a number of fans feel, I'm a bit gutted at Butters going tbh, I know why he has gone and I get it but I enjoyed watching him play and we were always better with him in the team, I also I don't really understand the plan to replace but it may all be much clearer in an hour and 20....here's hoping the replacement wont be in this window loan window probably but get of deans back town fans players and agents dictate .that is a fact Are you suggesting I am on his back, would you like to read my post again..fact
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Post by Tim Nice But Dim on Sept 1, 2015 18:14:43 GMT 1
If no cash is spent on a decent signing today attendances are going to plummet even lower. Bristol City have brought in Liam Moore big and fast be a great player with lynchy at the back missed out on him. I also can't believe we didn't get a player from Derby also a rb maybe Ryan shotton on or Cyrus Christie in the deal. Jamie Paterson deal is now dragging and we are going to be left with egg on our face of things don't change Bristol City have a mega money man at the helm who is willing to spend his money.
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Post by Big Ern on Sept 1, 2015 18:17:35 GMT 1
To be fair Mansfield I have a quar old pop at Nick much of the time but on this occasion he's simply stating how a number of fans feel, I'm a bit gutted at Butters going tbh, I know why he has gone and I get it but I enjoyed watching him play and we were always better with him in the team, I also I don't really understand the plan to replace but it may all be much clearer in an hour and 20....here's hoping the replacement wont be in this window loan window probably but get of deans back town fans players and agents dictate .that is a fact You think a loan will adequately replace an outgoing 5 million pound player? Jesus wept
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2015 18:35:49 GMT 1
Im not sure that deano really thought through the long term effects of constantly selling our best players and the negative effect that has on supporters. I think most understood Rhodes, They could just about see the value in Norwood and Clayton for Butts and Coady.... This year however, we have forced smithies out of the club, sold coady who said he would like to speak to wolves, but would have stayed and the sold butterfield and blamed the player!! FFS. Worse still we havent brought any genuine replacements, maybe dempsey is the replacement, but if its huws on loan, then were does that leave the business plan? the "revolving door"? We dont seem at the moment to have anyone left to sell... Wells and Scanz next year? We should be building a squad we can afford rather than subsidising inflated wages by constantly selling our best players..... 3 hours to go, but another winger on loan and a back-up keeper isnt going to quash the current dissatisfaction. BIG 3 HOURS!!! How about just a winger? I'm now convinced that theres something odd going on, I don't trust them any more
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Post by fiatlux on Sept 1, 2015 18:55:30 GMT 1
[/quote]You think a loan will adequately replace an outgoing 5 million pound player?
Grant Holt wasn't a bad loan.]
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Post by COWleySHED on Sept 1, 2015 19:18:19 GMT 1
Just in.. Bit gutted tbh. Don't understand what the plan and direction is ? Two strikers left Wow. Hope The new Bloke who gets players in is working hard today to bring new striker, new defender and top midfielder in ?? Why gutted, Nick? Hammill a waste of space. Vaughan, as you say, costing way too much for what we get out of him. Butterfield WANTED to leave and join Derby from the moment they came in. I already knew that a fortnight ago. Why bother trying to keep someone who patently doesn't want to stay? Great price! Move on! gutted because it was obvious that butts was going all along and why didn't we have an attacking midfielder lined up to replace him. it appears we have sold smithies for a 34 yr old sold coady for a 34yr old and replace Jacob with a long term loan - crap business for everybody except the chairman. time for hoyle to go
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Post by togterrier on Sept 1, 2015 19:26:49 GMT 1
Why gutted, Nick? Hammill a waste of space. Vaughan, as you say, costing way too much for what we get out of him. Butterfield WANTED to leave and join Derby from the moment they came in. I already knew that a fortnight ago. Why bother trying to keep someone who patently doesn't want to stay? Great price! Move on! gutted because it was obvious that butts was going all along and why didn't we have an attacking midfielder lined up to replace him. it appears we have sold smithies for a 34 yr old sold coady for a 34yr old and replace Jacob with a long term loan - crap business for everybody except the chairman. time for hoyle to go Great idea! Uncle Ken can get his hands on the shares again then......
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Post by richhtfc on Sept 1, 2015 19:26:57 GMT 1
You think a loan will adequately replace an outgoing 5 million pound player? Grant Holt wasn't a bad loan.] [/quote] Why is a loan (a season long loan with a view to permanent) any different to a permanent signing then?
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Post by teddytheterrier on Sept 1, 2015 19:30:12 GMT 1
Why gutted, Nick? Hammill a waste of space. Vaughan, as you say, costing way too much for what we get out of him. Butterfield WANTED to leave and join Derby from the moment they came in. I already knew that a fortnight ago. Why bother trying to keep someone who patently doesn't want to stay? Great price! Move on! gutted because it was obvious that butts was going all along and why didn't we have an attacking midfielder lined up to replace him. it appears we have sold smithies for a 34 yr old sold coady for a 34yr old and replace Jacob with a long term loan - crap business for everybody except the chairman. time for hoyle to go But everyone on here says it's 'good business' we've sold the shining star of a very dull team today, and failed to strengthen in positions that need strengthening, I.e. A striker, a right back and Butterfields replacement, instead we now have an abundance of wingers... And loan players...
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Post by COWleySHED on Sept 1, 2015 19:40:18 GMT 1
gutted because it was obvious that butts was going all along and why didn't we have an attacking midfielder lined up to replace him. it appears we have sold smithies for a 34 yr old sold coady for a 34yr old and replace Jacob with a long term loan - crap business for everybody except the chairman. time for hoyle to go Great idea! Uncle Ken can get his hands on the shares again then...... you enjoy watching sordell and shola up front in a months time
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Post by rantinray on Sept 1, 2015 19:43:06 GMT 1
Not blaming anyone. The group I go with have seen way worse than this but those that have fallen away would stay away if we signed Messi as they'd want Ronaldo as well, lets just see, maybe Powell can build the squad he is happier and better with? who are 'those' that have 'fallen away'... again someone starts using messi and ronaldho and other stupid statements to back up their theory that town supporters want far too much..its bollox.. and you and the club have been found out as 'it will do, its good enough' merchants and a good number have stopped coming because the football is dull, ordinary at best and the club think its 'good enough'.. they are clearly wrong.. Four of us have supported town for some 60yrs. There are now two of us - no the others have not died - they got fed up with the poor football and the lack of what they thought was direction. As for Butterfield have you asked yourself why he wanted to leave? Work it out, its not difficult.
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Sept 1, 2015 19:46:55 GMT 1
gutted because it was obvious that butts was going all along and why didn't we have an attacking midfielder lined up to replace him. it appears we have sold smithies for a 34 yr old sold coady for a 34yr old and replace Jacob with a long term loan - crap business for everybody except the chairman. time for hoyle to go Great idea! Uncle Ken can get his hands on the shares again then...... Re Fisher Lad
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Post by portugalterrier on Sept 1, 2015 19:47:25 GMT 1
I am a fan and I'm not fuming,personally think our signings have vastly improved our squad,Coady one paced ,Butterfield wanted to do everything slow to make the final pass,Smithies just a run of the mill keeper. Let's see how we are in 10 games.dont see many teams in our division strengthening.Up the Town.
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Post by portugalterrier on Sept 1, 2015 19:51:08 GMT 1
Do you all think Butterfield/Vaughan/Smithies give a fuck about fans as they swan around in their 80 grand Range Rovers,get s life sados
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Sept 1, 2015 19:53:37 GMT 1
I am a fan and I'm not fuming,personally think our signings have vastly improved our squad, Coady one paced ,Butterfield wanted to do everything slow to make the final pass,Smithies just a run of the mill keeper. Let's see how we are in 10 games.dont see many teams in our division strengthening.Up the Town. If this was thecase then why the hell did we buy and play them, you are DH aren't you? these are exactly the comments he would say at a supporters evening.
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Post by Mr Breitside on Sept 1, 2015 20:00:41 GMT 1
I am a fan and I'm not fuming,personally think our signings have vastly improved our squad, Coady one paced ,Butterfield wanted to do everything slow to make the final pass,Smithies just a run of the mill keeper. Let's see how we are in 10 games.dont see many teams in our division strengthening.Up the Town. If this was thecase then why the hell did we buy and play them, you are DH aren't you? these are exactly the comments he would say at a supporters evening. Portugal, Why did other clubs spend 8m on them ? Why was Butts our pots last year ? how exactly have we strengthened the squad when we haven't replaced two of them ?
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Post by rantinray on Sept 1, 2015 20:03:09 GMT 1
Do you all think Butterfield/Vaughan/Smithies give a fuck about fans as they swan around in their 80 grand Range Rovers,get s life sados Most footballers are just like everyday workers, forget wages, I am talking principles. They have a short shelf life and in that time they want to achieve. They want to play at the highest level that they can. They want to make themselves along with their family financially safe if possible. So all in all that is what most of us wish to achieve. If a company down the road was paying £30/hr more and the perks were also better would you remain with your present employer? Most wouldn't but some would. Footballers are no different, loyalty?
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Post by supertowner on Sept 1, 2015 20:08:30 GMT 1
why is hoyle above criticism.when you say agents and players dictate they didn't were smithies is concerned.Towns current probs lay squarely in the board room. Smithies was not forced out. He was told QPR had made a bid and was he interested in talking to them? If Smithies had given a straight NO answer that would have been the end of it. He obviously let the £ signs sway any hesitation he may have had imo.
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Post by teddytheterrier on Sept 1, 2015 20:09:40 GMT 1
why is hoyle above criticism.when you say agents and players dictate they didn't were smithies is concerned.Towns current probs lay squarely in the board room. Smithies was not forced out. He was told QPR had made a bid and was he interested in talking to them? If Smithies had given a straight NO answer that would have been the end of it. He obviously let the £ signs sway any hesitation he may have had imo. How do you know this?
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Post by portugalterrier on Sept 1, 2015 20:11:13 GMT 1
Coady let go by Liverpool 300k,they obviously didn't rate him. Butterfield,Norwich,Mboro,didn't get a look in,they didn't rate him. Smithies lost count of the posts on here ,worst keeper in division etcetera
Caryol pace Hews,21 yr old play maker,pacey Paterson central midfield attacking player
One thing our team with Coady and Butterfield playing lacked was pace. At least we no longer have to endure Butterfieds appaling set pieces. It's all opinions.
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Sept 1, 2015 20:13:06 GMT 1
why is hoyle above criticism.when you say agents and players dictate they didn't were smithies is concerned.Towns current probs lay squarely in the board room. Smithies was not forced out. He was told QPR had made a bid and was he interested in talking to them? If Smithies had given a straight NO answer that would have been the end of it. He obviously let the £ signs sway any hesitation he may have had imo. I'm certain it didn't help Smithies that during the negotiations with QPR, DH said that his fee was needed for squad strengthening.... one could reasonably ask now...... what squad strengthening? and in hindsight there was another £4-5M coming so the Smithies transfer and bad taste it left wasn't necessary at all.
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Post by portugalterrier on Sept 1, 2015 20:13:36 GMT 1
Teddyterrier,Smithies obviously said YES otherwise he would still be here.
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 1, 2015 20:13:53 GMT 1
why is hoyle above criticism.when you say agents and players dictate they didn't were smithies is concerned.Towns current probs lay squarely in the board room. Smithies was not forced out. He was told QPR had made a bid and was he interested in talking to them? If Smithies had given a straight NO answer that would have been the end of it. He obviously let the £ signs sway any hesitation he may have had imo. And then let it be known that him going was the only way the squad would get money for strengthening so he'd get the blame if he stayed. And then trouser the money anyway Sent from my SM-G900F using proboards
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