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Post by softboy on Oct 7, 2015 17:49:19 GMT 1
So for those posters on here who are not attending matches at the momment for whatever reason please come on here now and tell me/us whether you would actually attend on a fairly regular basis if every home match was £20 adults and £10 for kids. Likewise if not it would be useful to get an idea why.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2015 18:25:19 GMT 1
So for those posters on here who are not attending matches at the momment for whatever reason please come on here now and tell me/us whether you would actually attend on a fairly regular basis if every home match was £20 adults and £10 for kids. Likewise if not it would be useful to get an idea why. as a matter of interest softboy do you work at the club? honest question
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Post by brighousebandbred on Oct 7, 2015 18:45:19 GMT 1
There's one thing for sure I would attend a lot more if prices were £20 a game. I've made a decision this year not to attend any game on the day at £30 plus bar the Leeds game, or a major game Ie. A promotion/relegation clincher.
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Post by detox on Oct 7, 2015 19:01:57 GMT 1
Only way I see our attendances improving is if were fighting for promotion, still not right how the fans our being ripped off. Maybe Nigels got this one correct, walk up prices are more used as an excuse by pay on the day fans (rightly so) and i wouldn't expect us to get many more through the gates were it £20 a game, cheaper season tickets could be a different matter though. It'll be walk up fans that have walked away in the past 3 years, 3,000 of them...partly due to the price and the match day tax..partly due to the dire football. Just reducing the price to£20 would only win back those who left because of the price...the others may come back if the football is better. As for season tickets, surely anyone who supports Town for all 23 home games, and can afford it ..would already have bought a season ticket.. they work out about £16 pergame ...that's bloody good value, better than paying £32 as a casual fan. I'm not sure if we have lost SC holders, a year or so ago we 8,000 . If we have lost a few SC holders, and they have become casual fans - it means we've lost more of the casual fans than we thought - which is even more worrying
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Oct 7, 2015 19:09:28 GMT 1
There's one thing for sure I would attend a lot more if prices were £20 a game. I've made a decision this year not to attend any game on the day at £30 plus bar the Leeds game, or a major game Ie. A promotion/relegation clincher. Delete the promotion bit out of the 'promotion/relegation' decider and just leave it at relegation decider.
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Post by softboy on Oct 7, 2015 23:37:20 GMT 1
No I don't work at the club. Honest answer. But I have supported Town for over 40 years - good , bad, really bad etc. I just want Town to be successful but feel at the moment the bulk of the fans on here are being ultra negative bearing in mind we are in the Championship & doing ok and need people to be honest - they are all comming on here saying at £20 they will turn up but quite honestly I do not beleive they will. For some reason we have lost 3,000= since we got promoted and even if we charged nothing I do not beleive we would get these people back & don't know why!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2015 23:51:16 GMT 1
I don't understand any of this You do know whatever price you pay for your seat KSDL cream off £3 in rent? Which makes any thoughts about reducing season ticket pricing but not addressing pay on the day even more stupid an idea than it already was.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2015 23:54:27 GMT 1
So for those posters on here who are not attending matches at the momment for whatever reason please come on here now and tell me/us whether you would actually attend on a fairly regular basis if every home match was £20 adults and £10 for kids. Likewise if not it would be useful to get an idea why. Yes, if it was £20 I'd attend roughly double the number of games that I otherwise have, and the amount of times I fork out for my kid would go up by a factor of about 4 if it was a £10. "So Dean would have to pay less!"
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2015 0:46:18 GMT 1
You do know whatever price you pay for your seat KSDL cream off £3 in rent? Which makes any thoughts about reducing season ticket pricing but not addressing pay on the day even more stupid an idea than it already was. Who's 'stupid idea' was that then?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2015 5:51:47 GMT 1
No I don't work at the club. Honest answer. But I have supported Town for over 40 years - good , bad, really bad etc. I just want Town to be successful but feel at the moment the bulk of the fans on here are being ultra negative bearing in mind we are in the Championship & doing ok and need people to be honest - they are all comming on here saying at £20 they will turn up but quite honestly I do not beleive they will. For some reason we have lost 3,000= since we got promoted and even if we charged nothing I do not beleive we would get these people back & don't know why! the way I see it the vast majority of people who come across as negative on this forum still care enough about the club to make time to post and with that in mind if the club would reduce the cost of watching town and just as importantly have pay on the day gates they will increase the attendance by a significant number as a side note we all want to see town be more successful but some fans have more patience than others utt
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2015 9:11:16 GMT 1
Which makes any thoughts about reducing season ticket pricing but not addressing pay on the day even more stupid an idea than it already was. Who's 'stupid idea' was that then? I don't know whose idea it was, but its what Dean explained they were looking at doing at his last q&a.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2015 9:13:56 GMT 1
Who's 'stupid idea' was that then? I don't know whose idea it was, but its what Dean explained they were looking at doing at his last q&a. Thankyou, I didn't attend.
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Post by detox on Oct 8, 2015 10:06:29 GMT 1
I don't know whose idea it was, but its what Dean explained they were looking at doing at his last q&a. Thankyou, I didn't attend. dean said something about holding back some of the transfer receipts and not using it to invest in new players but to see if something could be done with season cards prices..
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2015 10:16:54 GMT 1
Thankyou, I didn't attend. dean said something about holding back some of the transfer receipts and not using it to invest in new players but to see if something could be done with season cards prices.. Ahh. I seem to recall reportedly said something along the lines of, we have a choice, cheapen prices or invest in the squad, which would you prefer?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2015 10:28:38 GMT 1
dean said something about holding back some of the transfer receipts and not using it to invest in new players but to see if something could be done with season cards prices.. Ahh. I seem to recall reportedly said something along the lines of, we have a choice, cheapen prices or invest in the squad, which would you prefer? I'd prefer better value, and a sustainable club. That might mean the Championship is a temporary excursion, but who cares, I support Hudds Town not Aston Villa. I don't DEMAND "Championship quality" players, just want to see a team giving their all and showing pride in the shirt and what they represent. Who cares if we play some other clubs that are better than us. I'd prefer if my club settled at its natural level, not pulled up by some rich benefactor who probably gets frustrated at the so called 'lack of support'. The problem of course is most clubs operate like that nowadays, if we want to play "fair" we'll probably sink a bit.
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Post by detox on Oct 8, 2015 10:35:15 GMT 1
The main problem is the product on the pitch, well it is for me..I pay a Senior price when I go down so not too badly affected..but the quality of effort often left me feeling 'frustrated'..
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2015 10:36:39 GMT 1
Ahh. I seem to recall reportedly said something along the lines of, we have a choice, cheapen prices or invest in the squad, which would you prefer? I'd prefer better value, and a sustainable club. That might mean the Championship is a temporary excursion, but who cares, I support Hudds Town not Aston Villa. I don't DEMAND "Championship quality" players, just want to see a team giving their all and showing pride in the shirt and what they represent. Who cares if we play some other clubs that are better than us. I'd prefer if my club settled at its natural level, not pulled up by some rich benefactor who probably gets frustrated at the so called 'lack of support'. The problem of course is most clubs operate like that nowadays, if we want to play "fair" we'll probably sink a bit. That is Deans stated aim though, self sustainability. Over achieving just hasn't quite permeated through the team yet, I live in hope.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2015 10:55:13 GMT 1
Thankyou, I didn't attend. dean said something about holding back some of the transfer receipts and not using it to invest in new players but to see if something could be done with season cards prices.. It was the increase in money we get from the football league. He asked the room for a show of hands, should that money be put into the pockets of the players or be used to reduce match costs. About a 90% majority showed hands for chucking it at players. The theory being that all the other 23 clubs get more money too and they will do the same, so if we used it to cut prices we would be falling behind.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2015 11:05:08 GMT 1
The main problem is the product on the pitch, well it is for me..I pay a Senior price when I go down so not too badly affected..but the quality of effort often left me feeling 'frustrated'.. I can't get my head around that attitude. You've obviously been going for years, but the quality of the football is now not good enough. It's surely incomparably better than virtually all you've seen previously, no?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2015 12:10:07 GMT 1
The main problem is the product on the pitch, well it is for me..I pay a Senior price when I go down so not too badly affected..but the quality of effort often left me feeling 'frustrated'.. I can't get my head around that attitude. You've obviously been going for years, but the quality of the football is now not good enough. It's surely incomparably better than virtually all you've seen previously, no? Notts County was shite, but aside from that, the home games I've seen have been either wholly entertaining, or entertaining in parts. Depends what you expect and compare us to I suppose.
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Post by detox on Oct 8, 2015 12:13:30 GMT 1
Quality of effort. I like to see a bit more work from the players.. Even Dean said it's been dire.. You have a word with him about his attitude too
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Post by gledholt terrier on Oct 8, 2015 12:19:25 GMT 1
Quality of effort. I like to see a bit more work from the players.. Even Dean said it's been dire.. You have a word with him about his attitude too Effort isn't qualitative its quantitive and Wolves second half aside, just hasn't been a problem.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2015 12:21:43 GMT 1
I can't get my head around that attitude. You've obviously been going for years, but the quality of the football is now not good enough. It's surely incomparably better than virtually all you've seen previously, no? Notts County was shite, but aside from that, the home games I've seen have been either wholly entertaining, or entertaining in parts. Depends what you expect and compare us to I suppose. Surely Detox is comparing it to games he's gone to in the past and that's what I don't get. He makes out as if for the past 40 odd years he's watched a much higher quality of football than is currently being served up, when, to me, it's the opposite. The current side has its faults, but I wouldn't put lack of effort as one of them.
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Post by detox on Oct 8, 2015 12:24:16 GMT 1
Notts County was shite, but aside from that, the home games I've seen have been either wholly entertaining, or entertaining in parts. Depends what you expect and compare us to I suppose. Surely Detox is comparing it to games he's gone to in the past and that's what I don't get. He makes out as if for the past 40 odd years he's watched a much higher quality of football than is currently being served up, when, to me, it's the opposite. The current side has its faults, but I wouldn't put lack of effort as one of them.
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Post by detox on Oct 8, 2015 12:24:42 GMT 1
Quality of effort. I like to see a bit more work from the players.. Even Dean said it's been dire.. You have a word with him about his attitude too Effort isn't qualitative its quantitive and Wolves second half aside, just hasn't been a problem.
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Post by detox on Oct 8, 2015 12:28:19 GMT 1
Fair cop, but yes too many lack luster games over past 3-4 years has done for me.I'm not asking to be agreed with,each has their own tolerance level.it's not an attitude either, while we're being pedants
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Post by benhomly on Oct 8, 2015 12:45:15 GMT 1
Notts County was shite, but aside from that, the home games I've seen have been either wholly entertaining, or entertaining in parts. Depends what you expect and compare us to I suppose. Surely Detox is comparing it to games he's gone to in the past and that's what I don't get. He makes out as if for the past 40 odd years he's watched a much higher quality of football than is currently being served up, when, to me, it's the opposite.The current side has its faults, but I wouldn't put lack of effort as one of them. I don't think he does though, I think what he is saying is that he's just had enough of it. As you get older you get less tolerant, you've seen it all before and it just gets to the stage where it's just plain boring. It's like turning up at the same place of work for 40 years, doing the same old thing week in week out; sooner or later you think bollocks i'm giving it all up.
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Post by dirtysteve on Oct 8, 2015 15:27:54 GMT 1
I haven't been to many games in the last 19 years so will probably get shot down in flames by this comment. The reason I've hardly been is because I'm a serving soldier (19 years ). Obviously haven't been around huddersfeld much in this time and am not as in touch with the club as most on here. Attendances are probably dropping due to pricing/ unattractive football/ fans becoming disillusioned etc. For me football in general has lost its allure. A few years ago I would watch any match on sky on any day but now I really can't be arsed with it. Players transfer fees and wages etc have totally fucked the game up, add in a lot of players try and simulate half the time and that's my interest gone. So maybe a lot of fans have not necessarily lost their interest in Town but football as a whole
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Oct 8, 2015 15:40:45 GMT 1
I haven't been to many games in the last 19 years so will probably get shot down in flames by this comment. The reason I've hardly been is because I'm a serving soldier (19 years ). Obviously haven't been around huddersfeld much in this time and am not as in touch with the club as most on here. Attendances are probably dropping due to pricing/ unattractive football/ fans becoming disillusioned etc. For me football in general has lost its allure. A few years ago I would watch any match on sky on any day but now I really can't be arsed with it. Players transfer fees and wages etc have totally fucked the game up, add in a lot of players try and simulate half the time and that's my interest gone. So maybe a lot of fans have not necessarily lost their interest in Town but football as a whole Your point of view is wholly understandable when you compare the job you do for the money you get with that of over paid half arsed footballers.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2015 15:54:14 GMT 1
I haven't been to many games in the last 19 years so will probably get shot down in flames by this comment. The reason I've hardly been is because I'm a serving soldier (19 years ). Obviously haven't been around huddersfeld much in this time and am not as in touch with the club as most on here. Attendances are probably dropping due to pricing/ unattractive football/ fans becoming disillusioned etc. For me football in general has lost its allure. A few years ago I would watch any match on sky on any day but now I really can't be arsed with it. Players transfer fees and wages etc have totally fucked the game up, add in a lot of players try and simulate half the time and that's my interest gone. So maybe a lot of fans have not necessarily lost their interest in Town but football as a whole Maybe football might be going through the process of losing its unofficial status as the main "national sport of the UK"? Other sports have been and gone (or at least dropped out of the populist conscience). Like jousting and archery! More recently Baseball used to attract 10,000+ crowds in 1930s England. Sports huge even in the 70's and 80's like Rally Cross, "British" Wrestling, Speedway, Banger Racing etc, whilst still existing (and still televised if you spend any time watching Eurosports schedule!) on both a UK and World stage, and seemingly thriving, are nowhere close to the position they held 35 years ago....which was a time when your non sporty mum would recognise Giant Haystacks or happily watch a Mini, an Escort and a Lancia Stratos fly around a tarmac and mud track together for ha!f an hour. Arguably you could add snooker to that list too, it was MASSIVE back then...everyone would be bleary eyed at school after a Snooker World Final. Darts with Bristow and Jocky Wilson was must watch TV...and whilst darts does seem to pull the crowds in like never before, its more of a niche sport than it was. Maybe this is it, and football's run is coming to an end? Young lads would rather play on Xbox...maybe in 20 years, eSports will be what everyone looks up to, full of glitz and glamour and no reliance on human error in refereeing decisions. I hope not
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