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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2015 12:49:55 GMT 1
Well priced by town. I'll be there.
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Post by bluedogs, Esq. on Oct 8, 2015 12:58:28 GMT 1
I take it you do not sit in this stand. Id be more than pissed off giving up my seat for those bellends or any others for that matter. Why though? It's one game. The club need the brass, why not cash in. Would 15/20k make any real difference ?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2015 13:00:27 GMT 1
Tell that to Hull City, their protests were aimed at WYP NOT Town.
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Post by chinaski on Oct 8, 2015 13:02:34 GMT 1
Have Middlesbrough not been allocated the south end of the Kilner? There's only 4-5 clubs maximum who will bring more than 4000 and I thought it was agreed that when required we would be giving the extra allocation to those who will? I take it you do not sit in this stand. Id be more than pissed off giving up my seat for those bellends or any others for that matter. I don't care where I sit in the ground. I've had a season card in every stand apart from the North Stand upper since it opened. If the club can milk an extra 3000 paying customers for 5 games a season at a cash boost of c300k id see the bigger picture.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Oct 8, 2015 13:04:43 GMT 1
I wonder how many local derbies up & down the country will be a bargain £20, not many I guess? Hope Leeds fans have to pay the full A* cat prices. I don't. If we are serious about wanting sensible pricing it counts for everyone - whoever we are playing. It is not the fault of the Leeds fans that Leeds charge so much. How loudly we would (quite rightly) moan if it was the other way round. #20isplenty. It's £40+ for us to go to Elland Road, I don't think they can moan about paying £30+ for the reverse fixture.. The club are trying to entice more home fans with this offer, Leeds will fill the south stand regardless of the cut price offer.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2015 13:07:07 GMT 1
Frankly mr shankly I wouldn't let even one of 'em in.
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Post by towntastic on Oct 8, 2015 13:14:09 GMT 1
I take it you do not sit in this stand. Id be more than pissed off giving up my seat for those bellends or any others for that matter. I don't care where I sit in the ground. I've had a season card in every stand apart from the North Stand upper since it opened. If the club can milk an extra 3000 paying customers for 5 games a season at a cash boost of c300k id see the bigger picture. So you have sat all over the ground and that makes you feel qualified to give up my seat for me. The cashing in can backfire in a big fashion if the ones having to move think whats the point of a season card that does not guarantee the seat and don't bother renewing. Look after the ones that actually come regularly first and then the rest. Having said that Dean Hoyle runs the club the way he sees fit, I respect that but does not mean I agree. If we do not stay up this season I would be there as every other season since the 60s unless Im messed around. The idea would not look so good then, doubt anyone would have to move seats for any team even if they all came at once.
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Post by Der Kopf des Konigs 1230 on Oct 8, 2015 13:17:40 GMT 1
I take it you do not sit in this stand. Id be more than pissed off giving up my seat for those bellends or any others for that matter. Why though? It's one game. The club need the brass, why not cash in. Here we go again giving the opposition an advantage. I think we just got right now with half the South stand & let's see with the Derby Leeds & Boro games were I'm predicting full vocals from the Riverside & the Kilner. This negative pre season talk of giving up seats, matchday pricing has effected attendances. Positive results & pricing in these games mentioned will have fans steadily flowing back. Now fuck off out of our Kilner bank
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2015 13:18:26 GMT 1
Tell that to Hull City, their protests were aimed at WYP NOT Town. Sent from my HTC One_M8 using proboards Their complaints would have been better served directed at the Safety Committee (Town, Kirklees, Police etc) who jointly agree (the key is in the word "committee" in their title) how individual matches will be operationally managed. Look at the FOI requests.
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Post by stevvy on Oct 8, 2015 13:20:53 GMT 1
As long as you're told before you buy the season card, then in my view, you don't have grounds for complaint, as you're aware before you buy that you MIGHT be asked to move for a small handful of games. If you're not told before you buy, that's the only reason anyone can complain.
You either accept it and buy your season card in the normal place, you buy one in a different area of the stand/stadium so you don't have to move for a small number of games, or (no offence) you throw your toys out of the pram and don't buy at all and don't come back because you've decided your seat is too precious to you to give it up.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2015 13:22:01 GMT 1
Why though? It's one game. The club need the brass, why not cash in. Here we go again giving the opposition an advantage. I think we just got right now with half the South stand & let's see with the Derby Leeds & Boro games were I'm predicting full vocals from the Riverside & the Kilner. This negative pre season talk of giving up seats, matchday pricing has effected attendances. Positive results & pricing in these games mentioned will have fans steadily flowing back. Now fuck off out of our Kilner bank Let them have the south end of the Kilner and then TAKE IT BACK. No Town fan would be shifted from their seat in the Kilner ever again!!
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Post by Porrohman on Oct 8, 2015 13:22:03 GMT 1
What's the difference between 7000 Leeds fans and 7000 Middlesbrough fans? I may be wrong but I thought the decision to not allow Leeds the extra fans was down to it simply being a rivalry thing. When was the last time we actually had any major bother at a Leeds home game - bar the odd scuffle with away fans in the home areas that only occurred because they didn't get enough tickets. When we played them in a friendly about 97 their fans were given the south stand and the southend of the kilner And look what the score was Don't want a repeat of that Sent from my SM-G900F using proboards
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Post by AndySk on Oct 8, 2015 13:26:29 GMT 1
I wonder how many local derbies up & down the country will be a bargain £20, not many I guess? Hope Leeds fans have to pay the full A* cat prices. Much as I dislike Leeds and their too high proportion of psychopaths, they are probably one of the most often "punished" away supporters through price Prob because they're so cunty
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Post by bluedogs, Esq. on Oct 8, 2015 13:28:19 GMT 1
When we played them in a friendly about 97 their fans were given the south stand and the southend of the kilner And look what the score was Don't want a repeat of that Sent from my SM-G900F using proboards Yeboah destroyed us that night
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Post by benmsmith4 on Oct 8, 2015 13:30:08 GMT 1
I wonder how many local derbies up & down the country will be a bargain £20, not many I guess? Hope Leeds fans have to pay the full A* cat prices. I don't. If we are serious about wanting sensible pricing it counts for everyone - whoever we are playing. It is not the fault of the Leeds fans that Leeds charge so much. How loudly we would (quite rightly) moan if it was the other way round. #20isplenty. This, a million times this. Need solidarity on ticket pricing.
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Post by Porrohman on Oct 8, 2015 13:30:21 GMT 1
Much as I dislike Leeds and their too high proportion of psychopaths, they are probably one of the most often "punished" away supporters through price Prob because they're so cunty Top top post sir Sent from my SM-G900F using proboards
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Post by towntastic on Oct 8, 2015 13:31:54 GMT 1
As long as you're told before you buy the season card, then in my view, you don't have grounds for complaint, as you're aware before you buy that you MIGHT be asked to move for a small handful of games. If you're not told before you buy, that's the only reason anyone can complain. You either accept it and buy your season card in the normal place, you buy one in a different area of the stand/stadium so you don't have to move for a small number of games, or (no offence) you throw your toys out of the pram and don't buy at all and don't come back because you've decided your seat is too precious to you to give it up. No offence taken. If that happens though then the whole exercise of giving up the seat is pointless. No monetary advantage would accrue to the club. The fact that I sit where I sit with friends and family over many seasons is MY CHOICE. If the club want it different then so be it. To those who like to sit anywhere and everywhere then good on em. Its amazing that on match day when its a relatively big game how many town fans sit in the reserved seats then complain when you have to move em. Your opinion is as valid as mine but remember if you keep going and I stop that's a 50% reduction.
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Post by bluedogs, Esq. on Oct 8, 2015 13:34:48 GMT 1
I don't. If we are serious about wanting sensible pricing it counts for everyone - whoever we are playing. It is not the fault of the Leeds fans that Leeds charge so much. How loudly we would (quite rightly) moan if it was the other way round. #20isplenty. This, a million times this. Need solidarity on ticket pricing. No chance with Massimo
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Post by DeepSpace on Oct 8, 2015 13:53:06 GMT 1
Personally I'd charge them £50 a throw & put them all in a field somewhere past Hartshead Moor to watch a streamed picture of the match filmed by a ballboy on his smartphone.
It would improve the matchday experience for us no end as well as generating valuable revenue. Win-win.
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Post by chinaski on Oct 8, 2015 14:28:39 GMT 1
I don't care where I sit in the ground. I've had a season card in every stand apart from the North Stand upper since it opened. If the club can milk an extra 3000 paying customers for 5 games a season at a cash boost of c300k id see the bigger picture. So you have sat all over the ground and that makes you feel qualified to give up my seat for me. The cashing in can backfire in a big fashion if the ones having to move think whats the point of a season card that does not guarantee the seat and don't bother renewing. Look after the ones that actually come regularly first and then the rest. Having said that Dean Hoyle runs the club the way he sees fit, I respect that but does not mean I agree. If we do not stay up this season I would be there as every other season since the 60s unless Im messed around. The idea would not look so good then, doubt anyone would have to move seats for any team even if they all came at once. I understand what you're saying but ultimately we have a ground that's too big for us and we're losing a shit load of money every year. We all want success but we aren't getting the crowds to assemble a team that can compete in this league - we need as many people in the ground every game to do that.
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Post by towntastic on Oct 8, 2015 14:40:47 GMT 1
So you have sat all over the ground and that makes you feel qualified to give up my seat for me. The cashing in can backfire in a big fashion if the ones having to move think whats the point of a season card that does not guarantee the seat and don't bother renewing. Look after the ones that actually come regularly first and then the rest. Having said that Dean Hoyle runs the club the way he sees fit, I respect that but does not mean I agree. If we do not stay up this season I would be there as every other season since the 60s unless Im messed around. The idea would not look so good then, doubt anyone would have to move seats for any team even if they all came at once. I understand what you're saying but ultimately we have a ground that's too big for us and we're losing a shit load of money every year. We all want success but we aren't getting the crowds to assemble a team that can compete in this league - we need as many people in the ground every game to do that. Ground has always been too big but don't remember having to vacate the Cowshed ( unless chased out, I was only a young teenager ). The fact is that those asked to vacate their seats are sat in the most densely populated area of the ground which by my reckoning makes it the most popular, so antagonise the majority instead of the minority. You could lose a shitload more money by upsetting the regulars. If pampering to some away fans is the way to go then so be it. Its abit like renting a Porsche from a car hire company and getting their one day to be told Im sorry sir its the reliant robin today as we have some new customers who will only use us once but we know we can bend you over.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2015 15:32:09 GMT 1
I understand what you're saying but ultimately we have a ground that's too big for us and we're losing a shit load of money every year. We all want success but we aren't getting the crowds to assemble a team that can compete in this league - we need as many people in the ground every game to do that. Ground has always been too big but don't remember having to vacate the Cowshed ( unless chased out, I was only a young teenager ). The fact is that those asked to vacate their seats are sat in the most densely populated area of the ground which by my reckoning makes it the most popular, so antagonise the majority instead of the minority. You could lose a shitload more money by upsetting the regulars. If pampering to some away fans is the way to go then so be it. Its abit like renting a Porsche from a car hire company and getting their one day to be told Im sorry sir its the reliant robin today as we have some new customers who will only use us once but we know we can bend you over. How about if the club let you have your seat for 90mins after the game had finished? Could be worth a suggestion, youd still get to watch the game and spend the same amount of time with your seat all for same price.win win
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Oct 8, 2015 15:34:34 GMT 1
How much will the Leeds fans be paying ? Hope to god it's full wack... Surely they'll be paying £20 also won't they? I thought that one of the arguments about not reducing home prices on a regular basis was that you had to charge away fans the same.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2015 15:37:28 GMT 1
How much will the Leeds fans be paying ? Hope to god it's full wack... Surely they'll be paying £20 also won't they? I thought that one of the arguments about not reducing home prices on a regular basis was that you had to charge away fans the same. You have to charge fans in the same stand the same price. We will charge them full Category A prices for the South Stand.
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Post by specialun on Oct 8, 2015 15:40:31 GMT 1
Excellent idea - an offer in a game like this is more attractive and meaningful than against mk dons or charlton etc
Now the overall attendance may not reflect as its on sky i believe but the breakdown of the attendance will show a lot more walk up fans for sure
Re long term sustainability thats what we need.
To put in bluntly we had more fans watching us in league one than we do now and our average attendance will be 2,000 less than 2 years ago.... - that needs reversing as a priority for hoyle. Two elements - quality / entertainment value (attacking intent) of football and prices. Both need changing.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2015 15:57:23 GMT 1
Surely they'll be paying £20 also won't they? I thought that one of the arguments about not reducing home prices on a regular basis was that you had to charge away fans the same. You have to charge fans in the same stand the same price. We will charge them full Category A prices for the South Stand. It's not "same stand", its " comparable stand". I think they declare South Stand is equivalent to Kilner, although in reality it should perhaps be cheaper due to uncovered concourse / concessions area.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2015 16:00:23 GMT 1
Just to confirm, HTFC policy is away fans pay FM Upper prices::
The Club abides by the Football League's regulations governing the allocation of tickets to away supporters.
The Club does not charge admission prices to supporters of a visiting club that is higher than those charged to our own supporters for comparable seating. The away supporters' seats are in the Chadwick Lawrence Stand (South Stand) and the comparable home area is the Fantastic Media Family Stand Upper Tier (North Stand). In particular any concessionary rates offered to senior citizens and junior supporters will apply to supporters of a visiting club"
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2015 16:13:54 GMT 1
You have to charge fans in the same stand the same price. We will charge them full Category A prices for the South Stand. It's not "same stand", its " comparable stand". I think they declare South Stand is equivalent to Kilner, although in reality it should perhaps be cheaper due to uncovered concourse / concessions area. If we're nitpicking, you missed an apostrophe in your second "its" . :-/
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Post by detox on Oct 8, 2015 16:22:02 GMT 1
talking of 'reserved' seats - do i get the feeling that loads of seats have reserved stuck on them still from previous seasons, because there seems an awful lot of them are not occupied...or is that just 'cos they haven't turned up ?
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Post by dtb on Oct 8, 2015 16:45:22 GMT 1
For those that are season ticket holders I the south Kilner bank i suggest you go back and read your T&C that came with your season card, also read the club webpage that was used to advertise for this seasons cards and especially read the section on this seasons new arrangement, where if the club chooses to give the south Kilner bank section to away fans you have no option but to move and no come back at the club.
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