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Post by zoso on Feb 4, 2016 10:37:05 GMT 1
Well i might as well i have met most of the others. Please do let me know where the boundaries are on posting on here and of course the boundaries for the discussion to come. As for the taxi no thanks wouldnt want to be indebted to you. You wouldn't be indebted, as I would be gaining from it too Just think you're pretty crass when you go out on a limb and call DH a liar or suggest scouts scouts should be sacked, etc. If things were clearer- fair enough. However, they're far from it! I don't disagree at all with where you say we are weak or that it's disappointing we always have to rebuild. It's just not remotely as easy to address as you seem to imply. I'll go halves with you for the cost of the taxi's Utt.
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Post by wtd on Feb 4, 2016 10:37:37 GMT 1
Original Post got 1 like and 9 dislikes (1 dislike is pretty rare) First reply ("Fuck Off") got 33 likes and 0 dislikesConfirming that, reassuringly, there is huge backing for Dean Hoyle and the club at present - even if some fans are disappointed in the January dealings and believe mistakes have been made, the overwhelming mood seems to be that DH and co are currently doing their very best to make our club better and more successful. It also suggests there is a small minority on this board completely out of kilter with the rest of us - so how about a new board (similar to the SOTC splinter), maybe called "I want the fucking lot but ain't going to lift a finger to help - and until I get it I'll just sit here and whinge"? Maybe a bit long that name. It just shows the immaturity of some folk on here if they have to resort to abuse when they disagree with someone else's point of view. A more sensible approach would have been to counteract his arguments with some of their own. Some people have and some people have taken the easy route. Hundreds of posters over scores of threads over eons of time have done. There comes a point when you realise you are simply pissing in the wind.
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Post by Big Ern on Feb 4, 2016 10:40:59 GMT 1
It's time to get over it now. We brought in who we brought in, all the pissing and whinging won't change the past. Show your support by turning up and cheering on the 11 in Preston.
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Post by 3Pipe on Feb 4, 2016 10:43:45 GMT 1
Let me ask you a question , and i ask it in the spirit of having a learned debate not point scoring and all that. Is the model of self sustainability working for us? Revenue streams outside of selling our best players have not dramatically increased to levels where absorbing player sales are not required have they? How long do we give it? How do we get the crowds to levels that will allow self sustainability... do we do that by a team that gets results or just plays well or both? How do you get a team to really gel play for each other if every saleable assett is sold time and time again? Or wouldnt the sensible approach see a reasonable percentage of profit gained spent on proper signings where needed, not loans which is what i have said for ages and guess vwhat Wagner agrees with me on. I believe our current approach all be it with more exciting football , sees us stuck in a rut. Its a chicken and egg situation where we are trying to square the circle. The idiots who call for me to go support qpr or some other high rollers are bang off the mark. I am not and never will advocate we chuck money at it left right and ctre and especially money we dont have, but at the same time i would expect and feel truly dissapointed that the club i have watched for 37 years can fumble their way from one season to the next without addressing what seems like the ever constant issues at striker and ctre back, especially since the club has raised many millions season after season. That's more than one question. I have a few for you too, my friend. Our catchment area is what it is. Do you think we'd be filling the stadium if we were knocking on the door of the play-offs? Are we in a position where we can gamble on a squad of high rollers like Bolton, Wigan, Pompey etc have done in the past? Is an attempt at self sustainability better than risking administration? Is there a guarantee that throwing stacks of cash at a team will automatically equal success? Did you read the words from David Wagner explaining why we didn't make the signings we were looking at in the window? Every saleable asset isn't sold every time though is it? We've held on to all our talent this window and that's a massive bonus. Teams like Porto, Dortmund, Southampton have all sold lots of big players the last few seasons and they have moved on. So have we. As for the issues at CF and CB, yes we keep on saying the same thing, we can be pretty piss poor there at times but they are probably good enough to keep us up and as Wagner has said I expect us to strengthen in the summer. It really isn't as simple as going out and buying a new car. What sort of targets did you have in mind anyway? The ones you've mentioned don't cover CB. I think the reason your OP got so much vitriol is because you seem to imply that Dean Hoyle is deliberately trying to screw us over. The bloke who has pumped £30m plus of his money and nearly 10 years of his life into the club, not to mention the 30 years prior as a fan. You're implying that this man is deliberately selling his assets and pocketing the money? Unbelievable. Have some trust man. There are times when you've got the pockets aces but you don't go all in.
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Post by stevvy on Feb 4, 2016 11:34:47 GMT 1
What's the point paying £1.7m for someone who we think is worth £600-800k in this window? Everyone knows fees get inflated in this window as teams don't want to let their better players go during the season. Nothing wrong with holding on until the summer and paying less or pursuing a different target for the summer. We may have a war chest but we're not going to go and piss it all away in 1 window on a below average player. Heck, even if in the summer we only spend £3m I'll have no problem with that. Just because we have the money doesn't mean we have to spend it if we don't think it's going to be good business for us. I'd happily have a team full of freebies who take us up towards the playoffs than a team who we spend £20m on but have us lingering in 17th for 7 years. Some of the best bits of business are freebies.
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Post by araucaria on Feb 4, 2016 11:40:26 GMT 1
That market mysteriously lowered then disappeared at Winner. I ended up with 20:1 at SkyBet. £20 can do one if we manage to stay up, but £400 if we go down will soften the blow a little. Never mind all this 'if you believe the PR' and coughing bollocks. What type of supporter bets on the team he supports to go down? If you ever go to a Town match (which I doubt you do), do you boo when we win? Are you gutted? All this soften the blow bit. Pathetic. I don't need to wake up and smell the coffee either. Thanks all the same. I find it gets in the way of supporting the greatest club on earth, our club. And I'm proud of that. Like my dad is. Like his dad was. And I'll be proud of it until the day I die. I'm genuinely sorry that you don't have this feeling. Because it is truly indescribable. I'll get off now as your percolator is probably over boiling. You'll have smelt it first though. I bet against Town once in over fifty years: the last match of 2000-01, an accumulator on the results that would send us down. I thought that it couldn't happen and wanted to make sure by betting on it and jinxing the tiny chance of it happening. The winnings were insignificant, but had they been substantial, they would not have softened the blow. Like many of us, I still haven't got over that relegation. Boothy hadn't three years ago when he re-lived that save by Ian Bennett ('Kenny sent over the perfect cross: I thought I'm going to score and keep us up...).
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Post by galpharm2400 on Feb 4, 2016 12:35:58 GMT 1
What's the point paying £1.7m for someone who we think is worth £600-800k in this window? Everyone knows fees get inflated in this window as teams don't want to let their better players go during the season. Nothing wrong with holding on until the summer and paying less or pursuing a different target for the summer. We may have a war chest but we're not going to go and piss it all away in 1 window on a below average player. Heck, even if in the summer we only spend £3m I'll have no problem with that. Just because we have the money doesn't mean we have to spend it if we don't think it's going to be good business for us. I'd happily have a team full of freebies who take us up towards the playoffs than a team who we spend £20m on but have us lingering in 17th for 7 years. Some of the best bits of business are freebies. the fees are not, overall, more expensive in january than summer. clubs want money for out of contract players, thats all.. freebies?? no such thing, its wages.. freebies with little wages and expecting wagner to turn them all into championship contenders?? big ask, too big.. the opinion seems to be from some that every player we wanted was 'average and overpriced'?? what the bloody hell were we trying to sign them for? all the players we want will be being targetted by other clubs, we will therefore still have to compete in summer for them. nothing has changed.. paying a bit extra would mean that they would be our players now and wagner would get 4 months of competetive football and a full summer with those players.. it is not a success to have brought in no new players and will only be an abject failure if we get relegated.. treating virtually nothing happening in a transfer window as some sort of moral stand against high fees/wages and pretending its a massive step forward in 'clever management' isnt fooling too many.. we failed to get the targets we wanted, the reasons are unknown so we play till may needing points to be safe, again.. its good but its still not right, as Roy used to say..
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Post by zoso on Feb 4, 2016 12:41:36 GMT 1
Never mind all this 'if you believe the PR' and coughing bollocks. What type of supporter bets on the team he supports to go down? A realist. The bet is to soften the blow when the club's plan to hang on to the cash from last summer and try to stay up on the cheap, goes pear shaped. It's £20, so I''d rather lose it and stay in the championship. I'd say it's about 50/50 at the moment, due to a very thin squad, already pushing the limit of loans. This could make things very difficult in a couple of months. If you've placed a bet on town to get relegated, then you ain't a town fan, just a gobshite (imo). Soften the blow? Don't talk like a part. Utt.
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Post by stevvy on Feb 4, 2016 12:43:54 GMT 1
By freebies I mean no transfer fee being paid out. Yes I know there's wages, but when people talk about freebies, people know exactly what they mean.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2016 13:35:08 GMT 1
A realist. The bet is to soften the blow when the club's plan to hang on to the cash from last summer and try to stay up on the cheap, goes pear shaped. It's £20, so I''d rather lose it and stay in the championship. I'd say it's about 50/50 at the moment, due to a very thin squad, already pushing the limit of loans. This could make things very difficult in a couple of months. If you've placed a bet on town to get relegated, then you ain't a town fan, just a gobshite (imo). Soften the blow? Don't talk like a part. Utt. All in your infallible opinion Trigger.
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Post by Porrohman on Feb 4, 2016 14:21:25 GMT 1
Dear old Marcus does have a strange way with insults, calling someone Trigger, because they don't agree with him, when he was the only halfway loveable character in that shit show he seems to love so much. And I won't mention cockneys as he thinks it's aimed at him (maybe just the first syllable)
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Post by sapphireblue on Feb 4, 2016 14:35:24 GMT 1
Original Post got 1 like and 9 dislikes (1 dislike is pretty rare) First reply ("Fuck Off") got 33 likes and 0 dislikesConfirming that, reassuringly, there is huge backing for Dean Hoyle and the club at present - even if some fans are disappointed in the January dealings and believe mistakes have been made, the overwhelming mood seems to be that DH and co are currently doing their very best to make our club better and more successful. It also suggests there is a small minority on this board completely out of kilter with the rest of us - so how about a new board (similar to the SOTC splinter), maybe called "I want the fucking lot but ain't going to lift a finger to help - and until I get it I'll just sit here and whinge"? Maybe a bit long that name. It just shows the immaturity of some folk on here if they have to resort to abuse when they disagree with someone else's point of view. A more sensible approach would have been to counteract his arguments with some of their own. Some people have and some people have taken the easy route. The immaturity would be to continue banging ones head on the wall in trying to counter the ravings of a serial WUM who posted for the 138th time the same old deliberately antagonistic diatribe. What was it that Einstein said about repeating things over and over. The OP had a late night rant that I replied to in my, partially alcohol fuelled, two word style (maybe I should change from my King Rat to the weak White Rat of your sig) I awoke the day after expecting my post to have been deleted and maybe a small ban. The number of likes my post received doesn't give me any sense of pride but does show me that there is an overwhelming sense of frustration with terrierp***k, clappymarc**t and classic wums of that ilk. Aslo, what was it Steven Fry says about bad language.
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Feb 4, 2016 14:43:37 GMT 1
It just shows the immaturity of some folk on here if they have to resort to abuse when they disagree with someone else's point of view. A more sensible approach would have been to counteract his arguments with some of their own. Some people have and some people have taken the easy route. The immaturity would be to continue banging ones head on the wall in trying to counter the ravings of a serial WUM who posted for the 138th time the same old deliberately antagonistic diatribe. What was it that Einstein said about repeating things over and over. The OP had a late night rant that I replied to in my, partially alcohol fuelled, two word style (maybe I should change from my King Rat to the weak White Rat of your sig) I awoke the day after expecting my post to have been deleted and maybe a small ban. The number of likes my post received doesn't give me any sense of pride but does show me that there is an overwhelming sense of frustration with terrierp***k, clappymarc**t and classic wums of that ilk. Aslo, what was it Steven Fry says about bad language. Nowt wrong with a bit of bad language when its warranted but I prefer the more measured approach on here. Stick with the King Rat, I had a few myself on Saturday night .It made a change from Scottish piss that I normally have to endure.
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Post by zoso on Feb 4, 2016 15:05:10 GMT 1
If you've placed a bet on town to get relegated, then you ain't a town fan, just a gobshite (imo). Soften the blow? Don't talk like a part. Utt. All in your infallible opinion Trigger. Trigger?? Care to enlighten me?
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Feb 4, 2016 16:11:33 GMT 1
I cannot see the point of bringing in players that do not fit into the Wagner style of play .
It seems Wagner has been given a transfer kitty by Hoyle , and doubt there will be any more cash available for a while when that money is spent.
This is just one reason why Wagner needs top spend that money wisely.
Wagner seemed "very confident " that he has a good chance of bringing in certain out of contract players at the end of the season, and it would not surprise me if he has been given first option on players by his vital contacts and cronies at Dortmund or even Liverpool.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2016 17:21:49 GMT 1
All in your infallible opinion Trigger. Trigger?? Care to enlighten me? If you're going to call someone a gobshite and insult them, it helps if you get the spelling of the insult correct.
Trigger wasn't famous for being very bright either.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2016 17:28:28 GMT 1
If we make it to the summer without being relegated and we manage to get the targets DW wants then all will be good.
I say if, because with a very small squad with a high number of loans, we could soon get dragged into the relegation battle with little chance of strengthening the squad.
The other "if" and it's a big one, is if the targets we had in mind half way through the season are still going to be available and would still want to come to Town, at a time where we'll be facing a lot more competition from other clubs.
I see the clubs actions as a bit too risky for my liking, if the story we've been given is the truth. If it pays off all is good, but if it doesn't I'll be expecting some on here to eat some humble pie. There are a growing number who spend most of their time pouring vitriol, hate and insults to anyone who doesn't toe the club line, rather than offering an opinion or debate.
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Post by wtd on Feb 4, 2016 17:34:23 GMT 1
Trigger?? Care to enlighten me? If you're going to call someone a gobshite and insult them, it helps if you get the spelling of the insult correct.
Trigger wasn't famous for being very bright either.
Oh dear... having to spell out your tenuous little witticism is far more embarrassing than Zoso being tripped up by predictive text.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2016 17:40:56 GMT 1
If you're going to call someone a gobshite and insult them, it helps if you get the spelling of the insult correct.
Trigger wasn't famous for being very bright either.
Oh dear... having to spell out your tenuous little witticism is far more embarrassing than Zoso being tripped up by predictive text. You know, if you removed all the posts which are purely personal insults and nothing to do with the topic, there wouldn't be a lot left to your contribution to this forum.
The same goes with many others on here. Try having an opinion or a debate, rather than insults because you don't agree. You don't have to be Einstein to debate, it only taxes a couple more brain cells than jumping on the bandwagon of insults and vitriol.
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Post by wtd on Feb 4, 2016 17:53:33 GMT 1
Oh dear... having to spell out your tenuous little witticism is far more embarrassing than Zoso being tripped up by predictive text. You know, if you removed all the posts which are purely personal insults and nothing to do with the topic, there wouldn't be a lot left to your contribution to this forum.
The same goes with many others on here. Try having an opinion or a debate, rather than insults because you don't agree. You don't have to be Einstein to debate, it only taxes a couple more brain cells than jumping on the bandwagon of insults and vitriol.
I see. So you insinuate someone isn't very bright, I pick you up on the laboured nature of your witticism, and I'm the one doing the insulting? If that's the quality and precision of your 'debating', then I'll give it a miss, thanks.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2016 17:54:09 GMT 1
If we make it to the summer without being relegated and we manage to get the targets DW wants then all will be good. I say if, because with a very small squad with a high number of loans, we could soon get dragged into the relegation battle with little chance of strengthening the squad. The other "if" and it's a big one, is if the targets we had in mind half way through the season are still going to be available and would still want to come to Town, at a time where we'll be facing a lot more competition from other clubs. I see the clubs actions as a bit too risky for my liking, if the story we've been given is the truth. If it pays off all is good, but if it doesn't I'll be expecting some on here to eat some humble pie. There are a growing number who spend most of their time pouring vitriol, hate and insults to anyone who doesn't toe the club line, rather than offering an opinion or debate. How many times do you have to repeat the same shit again and again and again, to be fair your doing a good job if your trying to ruin this board. Do you find that everyone hates you in person as well or is it just your online attention seeking dumb as fuck spoilt childish personality that does it? Im all for different opinions hence the reason Ive never blocked you but its hard to believe that someone sees the running of our club and everything the manager says as such a paranoid conspiracy, we all know that more could have been done to strengthen over the last year or so but theres reasons for this which have been pointed out to you more than enough times.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2016 17:56:32 GMT 1
The guys got to be a WUM I'm guessing a Leeds fan is it really possible for someone to be this dumb and yet still able to write if not?
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Post by wtd on Feb 4, 2016 18:00:25 GMT 1
The guys got to be a WUM I'm guessing a Leeds fan is it really possible for someone to be this dumb and yet still able to write if not? Now that's what I call ' insulting and vitriolic'!
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Post by terrierpark on Feb 4, 2016 19:51:13 GMT 1
I dont care how many likes my post has got or the foul mouthed insults. I gave my opinion after been told by so many wait until the window is over then judge but thats been conveniently forgotten, and i did wait. Do you remember that line from a Jack Nicholson and Tom Cruise flm " You cant handle the truth" The over the tip reaction to my post by some just gives IMO more credence to it as they fail to debate the points. I am fully aware that DH can do no wrong you have made it perfectly clear. He can not be questioned how he does things because it will always be the right way, and i should after 37 years sod off and go support a team who chucks money at everything because i have an opinion different to yours. I now genuinely believe that many of you are beyond help and far far too many of you rely on alcohol to see you through your continuing support. I would have hoped that even though you might not like my tone and rhetoric you might just have read things that made you stop and think. But those that do are derided just the same . So woe betide anyone to bang on about what they feel is right and wrong. I truly pity some of you
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2016 20:04:54 GMT 1
I dont care how many likes my post has got or the foul mouthed insults. I gave my opinion after been told by so many wait until the window is over then judge but thats been conveniently forgotten, and i did wait. Do you remember that line from a Jack Nicholson and Tom Cruise flm " You cant handle the truth" The over the tip reaction to my post by some just gives IMO more credence to it as they fail to debate the points. I am fully aware that DH can do no wrong you have made it perfectly clear. He can not be questioned how he does things because it will always be the right way, and i should after 37 years sod off and go support a team who chucks money at everything because i have an opinion different to yours. I now genuinely believe that many of you are beyond help and far far too many of you rely on alcohol to see you through your continuing support. I would have hoped that even though you might not like my tone and rhetoric you might just have read things that made you stop and think. But those that do are derided just the same . So woe betide anyone to bang on about what they feel is right and wrong. I truly pity some of you Serious question, how did you cope for the ten years or so between Rubery throwing the money around and Hoyle coming in? If memory serves, we had one year where our only two permanent signings were Youds and Sharp, another where it was Mendes and Brandon, or Kamara as the main signing summer one year. Even the year with Ternant all the signings, bar Roberts, were hopeless. You seem to have got yourself so upset that we didn't make any signings this window, I'd hate to think how bad you must have been those years.
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Post by gledholt terrier on Feb 4, 2016 20:16:37 GMT 1
I dont care how many likes my post has got or the foul mouthed insults. I gave my opinion after been told by so many wait until the window is over then judge but thats been conveniently forgotten, and i did wait. Do you remember that line from a Jack Nicholson and Tom Cruise flm " You cant handle the truth" The over the tip reaction to my post by some just gives IMO more credence to it as they fail to debate the points. I am fully aware that DH can do no wrong you have made it perfectly clear. He can not be questioned how he does things because it will always be the right way, and i should after 37 years sod off and go support a team who chucks money at everything because i have an opinion different to yours. I now genuinely believe that many of you are beyond help and far far too many of you rely on alcohol to see you through your continuing support. I would have hoped that even though you might not like my tone and rhetoric you might just have read things that made you stop and think. But those that do are derided just the same . So woe betide anyone to bang on about what they feel is right and wrong. I truly pity some of you First of all, when you stick up a post which basically starts by labelling everyone who doesn't share your lust for spending someone else's money as idiots, it's hardly surprising you got a pretty vitriolic reaction. You purport to support Wagner yet entirely dismiss his explanations of the January window. Like the rest of us, you have no idea what lengths the club went to in the effort to sign players - other than the targets were not available and replaced with shorter term solutions. (Oh, and a few paragraphs here and there would make your increasingly angry rambling easier to read)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2016 20:16:57 GMT 1
I dont care how many likes my post has got or the foul mouthed insults. I gave my opinion after been told by so many wait until the window is over then judge but thats been conveniently forgotten, and i did wait. Do you remember that line from a Jack Nicholson and Tom Cruise flm " You cant handle the truth" The over the tip reaction to my post by some just gives IMO more credence to it as they fail to debate the points. I am fully aware that DH can do no wrong you have made it perfectly clear. He can not be questioned how he does things because it will always be the right way, and i should after 37 years sod off and go support a team who chucks money at everything because i have an opinion different to yours. I now genuinely believe that many of you are beyond help and far far too many of you rely on alcohol to see you through your continuing support. I would have hoped that even though you might not like my tone and rhetoric you might just have read things that made you stop and think. But those that do are derided just the same . So woe betide anyone to bang on about what they feel is right and wrong. I truly pity some of you The only 'pity' around here I think is now your own self pity....so you haven't been bought any new toys to consume the next time you go to 'support' the club...get over yourself. For the record this is my 50th year supporting the club and what it brings is not some facile 'happy clapper' mentality but a reasoned sense of perspective something fella that you're sadly missing. David Wagner clearly set out his reasons for no big money signings - something you ve conveniently chosen to ignore or maybe you think he's lying and you're questioning his integrity - which is it?
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Post by terrierpark on Feb 4, 2016 20:35:06 GMT 1
I dont care how many likes my post has got or the foul mouthed insults. I gave my opinion after been told by so many wait until the window is over then judge but thats been conveniently forgotten, and i did wait. Do you remember that line from a Jack Nicholson and Tom Cruise flm " You cant handle the truth" The over the tip reaction to my post by some just gives IMO more credence to it as they fail to debate the points. I am fully aware that DH can do no wrong you have made it perfectly clear. He can not be questioned how he does things because it will always be the right way, and i should after 37 years sod off and go support a team who chucks money at everything because i have an opinion different to yours. I now genuinely believe that many of you are beyond help and far far too many of you rely on alcohol to see you through your continuing support. I would have hoped that even though you might not like my tone and rhetoric you might just have read things that made you stop and think. But those that do are derided just the same . So woe betide anyone to bang on about what they feel is right and wrong. I truly pity some of you Serious question, how did you cope for the ten years or so between Rubery throwing the money around and Hoyle coming in? If memory serves, we had one year where our only two permanent signings were Youds and Sharp, another where it was Mendes and Brandon, or Kamara as the main signing summer one year. Even the year with Ternant all the signings, bar Roberts, were hopeless. You seem to have got yourself so upset that we didn't make any signings this window, I'd hate to think how bad you must have been those years. Dissapointed beyond words. The marcus stewart sale was suicidal and we wre all deceived back then as rubberry proceeded to sell every saleable assett thereafter too. But the club marketed it as a great deal we got all this money for him and look we have replaced him with this guy whose good at penalties . We could have stayed up.Then in League 1 we could have stayed up if only we had kept winjard. He comes back from long almost self inflicted injury scores a winner or equaliser, i remember celebrating like mad and then is sold. His goals would have kept us up. Then the good times and Jacko a team that cost nothing that should have gone up automatically but gambled vy selling Stead and got away with it as Abbott proved a great replacement. I was at Port vale away a bogey team for us when he scored a hat trick. Yes we had nowt, zilch back then, we promoted our own and hoped theyd be good enough...young guns and all that and brought our Talisman Boothy back. We nearly get promoted then the bubble bursts and we struggle with rich t and his lack of excitement in demeanour to anything unless its leeds utd related. You only had to listen to him on the radio talking about Town then listen to him on about leeds, made my blood boil. So yeah mostly dark days and bad decisions after bad decisions that i am sure most of you would have probably defended . So am i thankful to DH for plowing money in and finally getting us back in the championship. Bottom line Yes i am but i would rather he had not let LC and his bingo ball machine wate his money to the point that having finally got promoted he DH changed his stance and put the breaks on. Because like it or lump it thats what happened... all the big i am , billboards pr overdrive, loans arranged if a player sneezes , i though brilliant this man means business he will leave nothing to chance in gaining that promotion and then all of a sudden it all changed. The momentum we had so important in football had long gone as Grayson saw us limp over the line and it was not the right time IMO if i am allowed one to pull that plug and annnounce self sustainability. Because we havent achieved it after what three or four years now because to truly do so we need pushing 20k fans in the stadium . One day there might not be a saleable assett in the team what do we do then? What will DH do then?
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Post by zoso on Feb 4, 2016 20:37:51 GMT 1
Trigger?? Care to enlighten me? If you're going to call someone a gobshite and insult them, it helps if you get the spelling of the insult correct.
Trigger wasn't famous for being very bright either.
It wasn't meant as an insult, more a statement of fact really Utt.
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Post by dalton knee-jerk on Feb 4, 2016 20:40:49 GMT 1
Serious question, how did you cope for the ten years or so between Rubery throwing the money around and Hoyle coming in? If memory serves, we had one year where our only two permanent signings were Youds and Sharp, another where it was Mendes and Brandon, or Kamara as the main signing summer one year. Even the year with Ternant all the signings, bar Roberts, were hopeless. You seem to have got yourself so upset that we didn't make any signings this window, I'd hate to think how bad you must have been those years. Dissapointed beyond words. The marcus stewart sale was suicidal and we wre all deceived back then as rubberry proceeded to sell every saleable assett thereafter too. But the club marketed it as a great deal we got all this money for him and look we have replaced him with this guy whose good at penalties . We could have stayed up.Then in League 1 we could have stayed up if only we had kept winjard. He comes back from long almost self inflicted injury scores a winner or equaliser, i remember celebrating like mad and then is sold. His goals would have kept us up. Then the good times and Jacko a team that cost nothing that should have gone up automatically but gambled vy selling Stead and got away with it as Abbott proved a great replacement. I was at Port vale away a bogey team for us when he scored a hat trick. Yes we had nowt, zilch back then, we promoted our own and hoped theyd be good enough...young guns and all that and brought our Talisman Boothy back. We nearly get promoted then the bubble bursts and we struggle with rich t and his lack of excitement in demeanour to anything unless its leeds utd related. You only had to listen to him on the radio talking about Town then listen to him on about leeds, made my blood boil. So yeah mostly dark days and bad decisions after bad decisions that i am sure most of you would have probably defended . So am i thankful to DH for plowing money in and finally getting us back in the championship. Bottom line Yes i am but i would rather he had not let LC and his bingo ball machine wate his money to the point that having finally got promoted he DH changed his stance and put the breaks on. Because like it or lump it thats what happened... all the big i am , billboards pr overdrive, loans arranged if a player sneezes , i though brilliant this man means business he will leave nothing to chance in gaining that promotion and then all of a sudden it all changed. The momentum we had so important in football had long gone as Grayson saw us limp over the line and it was not the right time IMO if i am allowed one to pull that plug and annnounce self sustainability. Because we havent achieved it after what three or four years now because to truly do so we need pushing 20k fans in the stadium . One day there might not be a saleable assett in the team what do we do then? What will DH do then? I wish Dean would sanction the signing of a paragraph or two
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