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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2016 23:13:43 GMT 1
The guys got to be a WUM I'm guessing a Leeds fan is it really possible for someone to be this dumb and yet still able to write if not? Kerching! 10 points on DATM thickie Bingo. We have a WUM, for not agreeing with a happy clapper.
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Post by zoso on Feb 4, 2016 23:14:43 GMT 1
I see. So you insinuate someone isn't very bright, I pick you up on the laboured nature of your witticism, and I'm the one doing the insulting? If that's the quality and precision of your 'debating', then I'll give it a miss, thanks. Stick to Panto's, you're not bright enough for much else. Seems to me you're the one dishing out personal insults..... Utt.
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Post by sapphireblue on Feb 4, 2016 23:15:08 GMT 1
Totally .. it will get more likes than terrierpark has managed in 3000 posts But apparently we're just a big alcoholic clique. Can I be a member of this clique. (Also, the best Ossett group beers are brewed by Fernandes. It is all about the hop/malt balance)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2016 23:24:22 GMT 1
If you're going to call someone a gobshite and insult them, it helps if you get the spelling of the insult correct.
Trigger wasn't famous for being very bright either.
It wasn't meant as an insult, more a statement of fact really Utt. So as a fact, I'm a "part"? Righto Trigger. Out of interest, we're you that bloke on Mastermind the other week?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2016 23:27:19 GMT 1
Stick to Panto's, you're not bright enough for much else. Seems to me you're the one dishing out personal insults..... Utt. In retaliation to a pure insult, I give as good as I get. In reply to a football related comment on a football forum, I debate and offer an opinion. It's a shame more than half a dozen on here don't have the same ethos.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2016 23:27:24 GMT 1
Bugger, had just put the popcorn away.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2016 23:30:30 GMT 1
Seems to me you're the one dishing out personal insults..... Utt. In retaliation to a pure insult, I give as good as I get.In reply to a football related comment on a football forum, I debate and offer an opinion. It's a shame more than half a dozen on here don't have the same ethos.
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Post by zoso on Feb 4, 2016 23:32:19 GMT 1
It wasn't meant as an insult, more a statement of fact really Utt. So as a fact, I'm a "part"? Righto Trigger. Out of interest, we're you that bloke on Mastermind the other week? I was referring to the gobshite bit No, I haven't been on mastermind. Have you? Your specialist subject could be slagging Huddersfield town off, you're very good at that Utt.
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Post by 3Pipe on Feb 4, 2016 23:45:28 GMT 1
Personal insults are not the way forward gentlemen.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Feb 4, 2016 23:47:23 GMT 1
D is for dunderhead ( is that allowed )
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Post by 3Pipe on Feb 4, 2016 23:48:21 GMT 1
Dummkopf.
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Post by terrierpark on Feb 5, 2016 0:06:16 GMT 1
2008- don't own stadium, don't own training facilities, which aren't worth owning anyway. Stuck in mid table league 1 , with 2 recent gates of only 6000 and an entire squad who would eventually be sold for the combined total of £45k ( james berrett) . ........Skip forward 8 seasons of finishing in a better place than the previous season........and something like £30-40 million of personal investment from the owner........... 2016- Own 40% of stadium and 100% of state of art training facility. Middling Championship club with highly rated german manager who is over-seeing an exciting improvement in play and has a lot of money to spend on players HE WANTS in the summer but won't piss it away on players he doesn't want just to shut a few tantrum merchants up and much more affordable ticket prices on the way. We deal in players by the £million and even after selling 3 main assetts in the summer, still have a squad worth many millions. You can appreciate that and enjoy it, or you can twist and invent and mis-understand and moan and whinge and find any way you can to constantly slag the club and Hoyle off like some kind of tragic anti-fan. Personally , ill just enjoy it... mainly because my memory goes back to before Dean Hoyle took over this club and a time when everyone with HTFC at heart would have dreamed of being the club we are now. BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DEAN HOYLE BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz I wondered when you would finally turn up with your own repetitive booooo crap. You obviously have not read some of the posts above in the exchange with Walter. Why cant you accept we are probably the only championship club with 1 credible proven striker. Combine that with a poor defence and its not a recipie for success in the long term. Results against teams according to their position in the table demonstrate this. We had a chance to address this real need NOT THE IMAGININGS OF TANTRUM MERCHANTS and we didnt. We now have to compete with those teams who will no doubt be able to offer much higher wages for these players in the summer? How does that square with been economic and addressing the losses? Talking of losses why have so many walked away ? We have not been expensive to watch by and large, all those offers , part season tickets, groupon etc etc why have so many thought sod to it? A squad worth many millions We dont have a squad fit for purpose its propped up with loans from front to back which puts enormous pressure on the club especially now as DW has stated he wants to work with his own players not loans. GK.......................LOAN LT BACK..................LOAN CTRE BACK.................MISSING CTRE MID .................LOAN ATTACKER /WINGER..........LOAN X 3 PATTO, MATMOUR, ELVIS STRIKER ..................MISSING So who we got worth all these millions? Wells a few yeah, lolley might net a couple and scanell if he gets some form back. Who else could you class as a million pound player. davidson, smith, hudson ? AS good as he was before injury, would someone pay a million for Whitehead? Thats a hell of alot of cash we need to spend, and a hell of alot of work to be done to get the deals done. Even a man of your limited insight must recognise we have left ourselves with a tall order next summer especially if any more of the players worth millions are sold to add to that tally. So here is the thing captain try and get your head round it. You can appreciate a person for their good deeds both in the past and on going and for the 30 million quid losses he has covered but that doesnt make everything he does right, every plan or srategy right not to be questioned. If i have offended you and others for the tone i used well you should be used to it by now. Remember i and others who said we wont spend anything in the window were told to button it and stop our vile posting. I did and came back and said told you so. Thats all that happened here. That and you didnt like it.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Feb 5, 2016 0:08:48 GMT 1
I notice how he doesn't address captains points just goes off on one ... Well done John you have created the worst thread in down at the mac history
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Post by terrierpark on Feb 5, 2016 0:17:18 GMT 1
I notice how he doesn't address captains points just goes off on one ... Well done John you have created the worst thread in down at the mac history [/b] A phrase used EVERY WEEK. The captain suggested that if we had signed players in the window it would be to satisfy the fans and thereby ridiculed the fact that players were not required. He made reference to the squad been worth millions i addressed that The tone and message in his post was about appreciation i addressed that . Get yourself to spec savers old boy
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Feb 5, 2016 0:20:19 GMT 1
I notice how he doesn't address captains points just goes off on one ... Well done John you have created the worst thread in down at the mac history [/b] A phrase used EVERY WEEK. The captain suggested that if we had signed players in the window it would be to satisfy the fans and thereby ridiculed the fact that players were not required. He made reference to the squad been worth millions i addressed that The tone and message in his post was about appreciation i addressed that . Get yourself to spec savers old boy [/quote] I didn't realise you started a thread as often as one a week.. but your latest offering will sure take some beating
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Post by terrierpark on Feb 5, 2016 0:22:53 GMT 1
Thanks for the compliment Goodnight
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Post by morleyterrier on Feb 5, 2016 0:27:37 GMT 1
Now now Children, play nice.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2016 0:49:13 GMT 1
The only 'pity' around here I think is now your own self pity....so you haven't been bought any new toys to consume the next time you go to 'support' the club...get over yourself. For the record this is my 50th year supporting the club and what it brings is not some facile 'happy clapper' mentality but a reasoned sense of perspective something fella that you're sadly missing. David Wagner clearly set out his reasons for no big money signings - something you ve conveniently chosen to ignore or maybe you think he's lying and you're questioning his integrity - which is it? DW said he had a considerable amount to spend. I believed him. He also said he would only spend it, if it was for the benefit of the team long term, which i found a bit odd as proper signings are always surely made with the long term view are they not? Perhaps what he meant to say and i would have been delighted to hear him say are if we sign a player it is the start of my team building for the long term. He also said he would treat the money as his own and with that dropped the first clue that we were not prepared to spend big. Normally an admirable stance, but it depends on your viewpoint doesnt it? If we were going to spend big on additions to an already well covered position for example Wingers or attackers it would make sense, Wagner told us we had plenty of them when the lad joined weeds , but the need to spend was there as many on here, in fact the consensus of opinion was that a striker and ctre back was badly needed. DW doesnt obviously think so or does he? Our unconventional way of play sees widemen or attackers as they are now known cut in far more, but it is laughable we sign matmour and elvis after been told we had plenty of their type. DH will have given DW x amount to get his targets that i am sure the club will have known were free in the summer, we didnt want to pay the price for buy it now so we will try again in the summer when lots more will join the bidding and thats a fact. Our targets remain unnamed so we will never truly know if we get them or not. So for the rest of the season we soldier on with the cullinder defence that adds increasing pressure to the strikeforce. So lets hope Elvis knows where the onion bag is and if he doesnt lets hope the tantalising form we got can continue to as least give some of the big boys a game. But i will not pretend that all is well and good , we are not safe by a long chalk and the summer shopping list is very big and the x amount DW had this window IMO wont cover it. Are you seeking to become the Jack Kerouac of Down at the Mac? Like Jack are you on speed when writing? Do you know what a paragraph is? Have you a spell check function on your laptop? Are you the master of the cliche? Do you ever answer a point put to you rather than go off on your misplaced stream of consciousness diatribe? Do you understand that in a 4 2 3 1 system the forward 3 are supposed to be interchangeable, pacy and mobile rather than two wingers and a deep lying centre forward? Have you noticed that we are the joint sixth highest scorers in the Champoinship? Do you believe anything that either David Wagner or Dean Hoyle says? Are you actually a machine that randomly generates spurious long winded rants in response to any other DATM contributions? Short, succinct and relevant answers only please!
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Post by Captainslapper on Feb 5, 2016 0:57:28 GMT 1
2008- don't own stadium, don't own training facilities, which aren't worth owning anyway. Stuck in mid table league 1 , with 2 recent gates of only 6000 and an entire squad who would eventually be sold for the combined total of £45k ( james berrett) . ........Skip forward 8 seasons of finishing in a better place than the previous season........and something like £30-40 million of personal investment from the owner........... 2016- Own 40% of stadium and 100% of state of art training facility. Middling Championship club with highly rated german manager who is over-seeing an exciting improvement in play and has a lot of money to spend on players HE WANTS in the summer but won't piss it away on players he doesn't want just to shut a few tantrum merchants up and much more affordable ticket prices on the way. We deal in players by the £million and even after selling 3 main assetts in the summer, still have a squad worth many millions. You can appreciate that and enjoy it, or you can twist and invent and mis-understand and moan and whinge and find any way you can to constantly slag the club and Hoyle off like some kind of tragic anti-fan. Personally , ill just enjoy it... mainly because my memory goes back to before Dean Hoyle took over this club and a time when everyone with HTFC at heart would have dreamed of being the club we are now. BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DEAN HOYLE BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz I wondered when you would finally turn up with your own repetitive booooo crap. You obviously have not read some of the posts above in the exchange with Walter. Why cant you accept we are probably the only championship club with 1 credible proven striker. Combine that with a poor defence and its not a recipie for success in the long term. Results against teams according to their position in the table demonstrate this. We had a chance to address this real need NOT THE IMAGININGS OF TANTRUM MERCHANTS and we didnt. We now have to compete with those teams who will no doubt be able to offer much higher wages for these players in the summer? How does that square with been economic and addressing the losses? Talking of losses why have so many walked away ? We have not been expensive to watch by and large, all those offers , part season tickets, groupon etc etc why have so many thought sod to it? A squad worth many millions We dont have a squad fit for purpose its propped up with loans from front to back which puts enormous pressure on the club especially now as DW has stated he wants to work with his own players not loans. GK.......................LOAN LT BACK..................LOAN CTRE BACK.................MISSING CTRE MID .................LOAN ATTACKER /WINGER..........LOAN X 3 PATTO, MATMOUR, ELVIS STRIKER ..................MISSING So who we got worth all these millions? Wells a few yeah, lolley might net a couple and scanell if he gets some form back. Who else could you class as a million pound player. davidson, smith, hudson ? AS good as he was before injury, would someone pay a million for Whitehead? Thats a hell of alot of cash we need to spend, and a hell of alot of work to be done to get the deals done. Even a man of your limited insight must recognise we have left ourselves with a tall order next summer especially if any more of the players worth millions are sold to add to that tally. So here is the thing captain try and get your head round it. You can appreciate a person for their good deeds both in the past and on going and for the 30 million quid losses he has covered but that doesnt make everything he does right, every plan or srategy right not to be questioned. If i have offended you and others for the tone i used well you should be used to it by now. Remember i and others who said we wont spend anything in the window were told to button it and stop our vile posting. I did and came back and said told you so. Thats all that happened here. That and you didnt like it. You haven't offended me. You've bored me with your endless infantile guff. I haven't even read any of your posts in this thread appart from this last one. Don't need to. I know exactly what you're saying all the way through. The same cretinous stuff about being lied to and deceived and no ambition and everythings crap and we're rubbish and you were right all along etc etc etc Every post you make is slagging the club off and dean hoyle in particular. Why would any Town fan have that attitude? Its bizarre. Are you totally unaware of the recent history of this club? where we were? Where we are now by comparison? Who we are in the scheme of things? How 'big' we are? It's like its come as some sort of immense shock to you that we're a selling club! Like its Barca, Real, Chelsea, PSG, Munich, Man City and , oh yes..Huddersfield ... who won't sell their players if they get a really high bid! 3 players sold last summer. We've only missed one of them! One of them wouldn't have even been a regular starter! You can't even bring yourself to admit our current squad is worth millions in the transfer market FFS. How much do you think Wells, Lynch, dempsey, Scannell, Lolley, Bunn, Hogg to name 7 would sell for? You want me to guess? How about around 200 -300 times more than the £45k our squad from just before Dean Hoyle arrived in 2008 made? Does that not register with you? That and competing in a division higher. And a club that owns fixed assetts and has a vastly more secure future as a result? yet all you do is constantly moan and slag dean hoyle off. What a hopelessly shit fan you are. I don't know why you find it SO hard to understand. Its quite simple. Wagner spelled it out in easy to understand words just for the likes of you! There is no deception going on. No underhand pocketing of money or whatever other nonsense you think is happening. Let me ask you a question. What would YOU have done if you were in charge this January- a) Only buy players you want if you can get them at a decent price, baring in mind their clubs are reluctant to sell them mid-season unless its for stupid money. If you can't get them for a decent amount, then hold fire with the money you have to spend until the summer when they are far more likely to be available. Use the loan market in the meantime to probably achieve the club's highest finish in 16 years. b) Spend it. Doesn't matter if it isn't the players you ideally want, or if it is that you have to blow way more than they're worth on them. The important thing is you spend the money NOW- cos failing to do that with upset some comically tragic fans who won't tolerate anything less than the club spaffing money on transfer fees. Simple question........a) or b) What would you do?
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Post by shawsie on Feb 5, 2016 1:16:34 GMT 1
Capt....we have debated, disagreed and had some right old ding dongs on here in the past but that is simply brilliant.....and spot on.
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Post by zoso on Feb 5, 2016 1:31:24 GMT 1
I wondered when you would finally turn up with your own repetitive booooo crap. You obviously have not read some of the posts above in the exchange with Walter. Why cant you accept we are probably the only championship club with 1 credible proven striker. Combine that with a poor defence and its not a recipie for success in the long term. Results against teams according to their position in the table demonstrate this. We had a chance to address this real need NOT THE IMAGININGS OF TANTRUM MERCHANTS and we didnt. We now have to compete with those teams who will no doubt be able to offer much higher wages for these players in the summer? How does that square with been economic and addressing the losses? Talking of losses why have so many walked away ? We have not been expensive to watch by and large, all those offers , part season tickets, groupon etc etc why have so many thought sod to it? A squad worth many millions We dont have a squad fit for purpose its propped up with loans from front to back which puts enormous pressure on the club especially now as DW has stated he wants to work with his own players not loans. GK.......................LOAN LT BACK..................LOAN CTRE BACK.................MISSING CTRE MID .................LOAN ATTACKER /WINGER..........LOAN X 3 PATTO, MATMOUR, ELVIS STRIKER ..................MISSING So who we got worth all these millions? Wells a few yeah, lolley might net a couple and scanell if he gets some form back. Who else could you class as a million pound player. davidson, smith, hudson ? AS good as he was before injury, would someone pay a million for Whitehead? Thats a hell of alot of cash we need to spend, and a hell of alot of work to be done to get the deals done. Even a man of your limited insight must recognise we have left ourselves with a tall order next summer especially if any more of the players worth millions are sold to add to that tally. So here is the thing captain try and get your head round it. You can appreciate a person for their good deeds both in the past and on going and for the 30 million quid losses he has covered but that doesnt make everything he does right, every plan or srategy right not to be questioned. If i have offended you and others for the tone i used well you should be used to it by now. Remember i and others who said we wont spend anything in the window were told to button it and stop our vile posting. I did and came back and said told you so. Thats all that happened here. That and you didnt like it. You haven't offended me. You've bored me with your endless infantile guff. I haven't even read any of your posts in this thread appart from this last one. Don't need to. I know exactly what you're saying all the way through. The same cretinous stuff about being lied to and deceived and no ambition and everythings crap and we're rubbish and you were right all along etc etc etc Every post you make is slagging the club off and dean hoyle in particular. Why would any Town fan have that attitude? Its bizarre. Are you totally unaware of the recent history of this club? where we were? Where we are now by comparison? Who we are in the scheme of things? How 'big' we are? It's like its come as some sort of immense shock to you that we're a selling club! Like its Barca, Real, Chelsea, PSG, Munich, Man City and , oh yes..Huddersfield ... who won't sell their players if they get a really high bid! 3 players sold last summer. We've only missed one of them! One of them wouldn't have even been a regular starter! You can't even bring yourself to admit our current squad is worth millions in the transfer market FFS. How much do you think Wells, Lynch, dempsey, Scannell, Lolley, Bunn, Hogg to name 7 would sell for? You want me to guess? How about around 200 -300 times more than the £45k our squad from just before Dean Hoyle arrived in 2008 made? Does that not register with you? That and competing in a division higher. And a club that owns fixed assetts and has a vastly more secure future as a result? yet all you do is constantly moan and slag dean hoyle off. What a hopelessly shit fan you are. I don't know why you find it SO hard to understand. Its quite simple. Wagner spelled it out in easy to understand words just for the likes of you! There is no deception going on. No underhand pocketing of money or whatever other nonsense you think is happening. Let me ask you a question. What would YOU have done if you were in charge this January- a) Only buy players you want if you can get them at a decent price, baring in mind their clubs are reluctant to sell them mid-season unless its for stupid money. If you can't get them for a decent amount, then hold fire with the money you have to spend until the summer when they are far more likely to be available. Use the loan market in the meantime to probably achieve the club's highest finish in 16 years. b) Spend it. Doesn't matter if it isn't the players you ideally want, or if it is that you have to blow way more than they're worth on them. The important thing is you spend the money NOW- cos failing to do that with upset some comically tragic fans who won't tolerate anything less than the club spaffing money on transfer fees. Simple question........a) or b) What would you do? Well said Sir!! utt.
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Post by wtd on Feb 5, 2016 9:55:06 GMT 1
I see. So you insinuate someone isn't very bright, I pick you up on the laboured nature of your witticism, and I'm the one doing the insulting? If that's the quality and precision of your 'debating', then I'll give it a miss, thanks. Stick to Panto's, you're not bright enough for much else. Ok, Marcus Tullius Cicero. Will do.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Feb 5, 2016 15:28:20 GMT 1
to have 'the worst thread in DATM history'...
that would be an accolade worth having..
but other than to break numerous criminal laws and insult everyone who has ever posted in a very personal way, its gonna be a tough one..
still, im sure its being worked on somewhere right now..
seriously the worst thread cant just be about ambition/investment laced with a couple of personals can it??? you would have to introduce minorities, tragedies and Leeds United I feel..
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Post by terrierpark on Feb 5, 2016 21:51:22 GMT 1
I wondered when you would finally turn up with your own repetitive booooo crap. You obviously have not read some of the posts above in the exchange with Walter. Why cant you accept we are probably the only championship club with 1 credible proven striker. Combine that with a poor defence and its not a recipie for success in the long term. Results against teams according to their position in the table demonstrate this. We had a chance to address this real need NOT THE IMAGININGS OF TANTRUM MERCHANTS and we didnt. We now have to compete with those teams who will no doubt be able to offer much higher wages for these players in the summer? How does that square with been economic and addressing the losses? Talking of losses why have so many walked away ? We have not been expensive to watch by and large, all those offers , part season tickets, groupon etc etc why have so many thought sod to it? A squad worth many millions We dont have a squad fit for purpose its propped up with loans from front to back which puts enormous pressure on the club especially now as DW has stated he wants to work with his own players not loans. GK.......................LOAN LT BACK..................LOAN CTRE BACK.................MISSING CTRE MID .................LOAN ATTACKER /WINGER..........LOAN X 3 PATTO, MATMOUR, ELVIS STRIKER ..................MISSING So who we got worth all these millions? Wells a few yeah, lolley might net a couple and scanell if he gets some form back. Who else could you class as a million pound player. davidson, smith, hudson ? AS good as he was before injury, would someone pay a million for Whitehead? Thats a hell of alot of cash we need to spend, and a hell of alot of work to be done to get the deals done. Even a man of your limited insight must recognise we have left ourselves with a tall order next summer especially if any more of the players worth millions are sold to add to that tally. So here is the thing captain try and get your head round it. You can appreciate a person for their good deeds both in the past and on going and for the 30 million quid losses he has covered but that doesnt make everything he does right, every plan or srategy right not to be questioned. If i have offended you and others for the tone i used well you should be used to it by now. Remember i and others who said we wont spend anything in the window were told to button it and stop our vile posting. I did and came back and said told you so. Thats all that happened here. That and you didnt like it. You haven't offended me. You've bored me with your endless infantile guff. I haven't even read any of your posts in this thread appart from this last one. Don't need to. I know exactly what you're saying all the way through. The same cretinous stuff about being lied to and deceived and no ambition and everythings crap and we're rubbish and you were right all along etc etc etc Every post you make is slagging the club off and dean hoyle in particular. Why would any Town fan have that attitude? Its bizarre. Are you totally unaware of the recent history of this club? where we were? Where we are now by comparison? Who we are in the scheme of things? How 'big' we are? It's like its come as some sort of immense shock to you that we're a selling club! Like its Barca, Real, Chelsea, PSG, Munich, Man City and , oh yes..Huddersfield ... who won't sell their players if they get a really high bid! 3 players sold last summer. We've only missed one of them! One of them wouldn't have even been a regular starter! You can't even bring yourself to admit our current squad is worth millions in the transfer market FFS. How much do you think Wells, Lynch, dempsey, Scannell, Lolley, Bunn, Hogg to name 7 would sell for? You want me to guess? How about around 200 -300 times more than the £45k our squad from just before Dean Hoyle arrived in 2008 made? Does that not register with you? That and competing in a division higher. And a club that owns fixed assetts and has a vastly more secure future as a result? yet all you do is constantly moan and slag dean hoyle off. What a hopelessly shit fan you are. I don't know why you find it SO hard to understand. Its quite simple. Wagner spelled it out in easy to understand words just for the likes of you! There is no deception going on. No underhand pocketing of money or whatever other nonsense you think is happening. Let me ask you a question. What would YOU have done if you were in charge this January- a) Only buy players you want if you can get them at a decent price, baring in mind their clubs are reluctant to sell them mid-season unless its for stupid money. If you can't get them for a decent amount, then hold fire with the money you have to spend until the summer when they are far more likely to be available. Use the loan market in the meantime to probably achieve the club's highest finish in 16 years. b) Spend it. Doesn't matter if it isn't the players you ideally want, or if it is that you have to blow way more than they're worth on them. The important thing is you spend the money NOW- cos failing to do that with upset some comically tragic fans who won't tolerate anything less than the club spaffing money on transfer fees. Simple question........a) or b) What would you do? You really do misjudge me captain and although i would consider myself thick skinned i do take offence to your remark of been a "hoplessly shit fan" its quite hurtful if truth be told. At least i stuck with us and go to the games. We will never see eye to eye on what constitutes team building that much is clear but i want you to be clear on a couple of points. I have embraced on the whole the new direction under Wagner we are playing much better stuff creating more and i want us to be succesful , to always look to improve, to not rest on laurels and be satisfied because i truly believe we can be better than that. Your way always comes accross as the polar opposite look at what we own, look at what were worth , look how much loanees have saved us, even when the results and performances have been crap you would not see us spend a penny or tolerate anybody who suggested we should sign a or b or shouldnt have sold a or b. I accept and have said so many times that we will always have to sell our better players so why you keep banging on like you do that i think town should be with barca and real madrid and all that. I have even put it in bold for you. So please do not level that false accusation again ok. What i dont accept and i am not in a minority here is that funds from those should not go on buying quality replacements or strengthening other areas of the team. i.e. over reliance on loans. We were told we would be strengthening and the situation we find ourselves now in is a matter of opinion. I said before the window closed what the likely outcome would be. You and i dont know how much we were prepared to pay or how much they wanted and how much funds DW had . We dont even know who we were after do we? So i cant judge whether it was the right choice or not. Given that generally i dont like to pay over the odds for stuff of course i can see that the right option might have been to say sod that not paying that. But there are times in life you have to pay the going rate you of all people should acknowledge that the way you have banged on in the past defending football players wages. I hope it doesnt cost us dearly and we go on and finish well up the table. If we end up in a relegation fight however there will be a hell of alot more shitty fans arguing with you on the merits of our strategy. So please dont use the " Who could have seen x been out for the rest of the season" line either as plenty of us could shit happens.
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Post by gledholt terrier on Feb 5, 2016 22:06:36 GMT 1
You haven't offended me. You've bored me with your endless infantile guff. I haven't even read any of your posts in this thread appart from this last one. Don't need to. I know exactly what you're saying all the way through. The same cretinous stuff about being lied to and deceived and no ambition and everythings crap and we're rubbish and you were right all along etc etc etc Every post you make is slagging the club off and dean hoyle in particular. Why would any Town fan have that attitude? Its bizarre. Are you totally unaware of the recent history of this club? where we were? Where we are now by comparison? Who we are in the scheme of things? How 'big' we are? It's like its come as some sort of immense shock to you that we're a selling club! Like its Barca, Real, Chelsea, PSG, Munich, Man City and , oh yes..Huddersfield ... who won't sell their players if they get a really high bid! 3 players sold last summer. We've only missed one of them! One of them wouldn't have even been a regular starter! You can't even bring yourself to admit our current squad is worth millions in the transfer market FFS. How much do you think Wells, Lynch, dempsey, Scannell, Lolley, Bunn, Hogg to name 7 would sell for? You want me to guess? How about around 200 -300 times more than the £45k our squad from just before Dean Hoyle arrived in 2008 made? Does that not register with you? That and competing in a division higher. And a club that owns fixed assetts and has a vastly more secure future as a result? yet all you do is constantly moan and slag dean hoyle off. What a hopelessly shit fan you are. I don't know why you find it SO hard to understand. Its quite simple. Wagner spelled it out in easy to understand words just for the likes of you! There is no deception going on. No underhand pocketing of money or whatever other nonsense you think is happening. Let me ask you a question. What would YOU have done if you were in charge this January- a) Only buy players you want if you can get them at a decent price, baring in mind their clubs are reluctant to sell them mid-season unless its for stupid money. If you can't get them for a decent amount, then hold fire with the money you have to spend until the summer when they are far more likely to be available. Use the loan market in the meantime to probably achieve the club's highest finish in 16 years. b) Spend it. Doesn't matter if it isn't the players you ideally want, or if it is that you have to blow way more than they're worth on them. The important thing is you spend the money NOW- cos failing to do that with upset some comically tragic fans who won't tolerate anything less than the club spaffing money on transfer fees. Simple question........a) or b) What would you do? You really do misjudge me captain and although i would consider myself thick skinned i do take offence to your remark of been a "hoplessly shit fan" its quite hurtful if truth be told. At least i stuck with us and go to the games. We will never see eye to eye on what constitutes team building that much is clear but i want you to be clear on a couple of points. I have embraced on the whole the new direction under Wagner we are playing much better stuff creating more and i want us to be succesful , to always look to improve, to not rest on laurels and be satisfied because i truly believe we can be better than that. Your way always comes accross as the polar opposite look at what we own, look at what were worth , look how much loanees have saved us, even when the results and performances have been crap you would not see us spend a penny or tolerate anybody who suggested we should sign a or b or shouldnt have sold a or b. I accept and have said so many times that we will always have to sell our better players so why you keep banging on like you do that i think town should be with barca and real madrid and all that. I have even put it in bold for you. So please do not level that false accusation again ok. What i dont accept and i am not in a minority here is that funds from those should not go on buying quality replacements or strengthening other areas of the team. i.e. over reliance on loans. We were told we would be strengthening and the situation we find ourselves now in is a matter of opinion. I said before the window closed what the likely outcome would be. You and i dont know how much we were prepared to pay or how much they wanted and how much funds DW had . We dont even know who we were after do we? So i cant judge whether it was the right choice or not. Given that generally i dont like to pay over the odds for stuff of course i can see that the right option might have been to say sod that not paying that. But there are times in life you have to pay the going rate you of all people should acknowledge that the way you have banged on in the past defending football players wages. I hope it doesnt cost us dearly and we go on and finish well up the table. If we end up in a relegation fight however there will be a hell of alot more shitty fans arguing with you on the merits of our strategy. So please dont use the " Who could have seen x been out for the rest of the season" line either as plenty of us could shit happens. So, in summary; You admire and support DW but not enough to take him at his word over transfers You have no idea who Town targeted or the reasons behind why players weren't signed and don't want to pay over the odds; yet come to the conclusion that it must be because we aren't prepared to pay over the odds. You are in knots because you want to see a marquee signing with a number attached you can relate to, whether or not that signing is good value. As DW has said (though you may concur with the "supporter" from Kent that he is just a useful PR man for DH), short term solutions have been applied - which no one can judge yet - to compensate for missing out on targets for the time being. (Better paragraphs though - makes it much easier to read)
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Post by dalton knee-jerk on Feb 5, 2016 22:19:03 GMT 1
You really do misjudge me captain and although i would consider myself thick skinned i do take offence to your remark of been a "hoplessly shit fan" its quite hurtful if truth be told. At least i stuck with us and go to the games. We will never see eye to eye on what constitutes team building that much is clear but i want you to be clear on a couple of points. I have embraced on the whole the new direction under Wagner we are playing much better stuff creating more and i want us to be succesful , to always look to improve, to not rest on laurels and be satisfied because i truly believe we can be better than that. Your way always comes accross as the polar opposite look at what we own, look at what were worth , look how much loanees have saved us, even when the results and performances have been crap you would not see us spend a penny or tolerate anybody who suggested we should sign a or b or shouldnt have sold a or b. I accept and have said so many times that we will always have to sell our better players so why you keep banging on like you do that i think town should be with barca and real madrid and all that. I have even put it in bold for you. So please do not level that false accusation again ok. What i dont accept and i am not in a minority here is that funds from those should not go on buying quality replacements or strengthening other areas of the team. i.e. over reliance on loans. We were told we would be strengthening and the situation we find ourselves now in is a matter of opinion. I said before the window closed what the likely outcome would be. You and i dont know how much we were prepared to pay or how much they wanted and how much funds DW had . We dont even know who we were after do we? So i cant judge whether it was the right choice or not. Given that generally i dont like to pay over the odds for stuff of course i can see that the right option might have been to say sod that not paying that. But there are times in life you have to pay the going rate you of all people should acknowledge that the way you have banged on in the past defending football players wages. I hope it doesnt cost us dearly and we go on and finish well up the table. If we end up in a relegation fight however there will be a hell of alot more shitty fans arguing with you on the merits of our strategy. So please dont use the " Who could have seen x been out for the rest of the season" line either as plenty of us could shit happens. So, in summary; You admire and support DW but not enough to take him at his word over transfers You have no idea who Town targeted or the reasons behind why players weren't signed and don't want to pay over the odds; yet come to the conclusion that it must be because we aren't prepared to pay over the odds. You are in knots because you want to see a marquee signing with a number attached you can relate to, whether or not that signing is good value. As DW has said (though you may concur with the "supporter" from Kent that he is just a useful PR man for DH), short term solutions have been applied - which no one can judge yet - to compensate for missing out on targets for the time being. (Better paragraphs though - makes it much easier to read) Superbly summed up
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Post by Captainslapper on Feb 6, 2016 0:18:49 GMT 1
You really do misjudge me captain and although i would consider myself thick skinned i do take offence to your remark of been a "hoplessly shit fan" its quite hurtful if truth be told. At least i stuck with us and go to the games. We will never see eye to eye on what constitutes team building that much is clear but i want you to be clear on a couple of points. I have embraced on the whole the new direction under Wagner we are playing much better stuff creating more and i want us to be succesful , to always look to improve, to not rest on laurels and be satisfied because i truly believe we can be better than that. Your way always comes accross as the polar opposite look at what we own, look at what were worth , look how much loanees have saved us, even when the results and performances have been crap you would not see us spend a penny or tolerate anybody who suggested we should sign a or b or shouldnt have sold a or b. I accept and have said so many times that we will always have to sell our better players so why you keep banging on like you do that i think town should be with barca and real madrid and all that. I have even put it in bold for you. So please do not level that false accusation again ok. What i dont accept and i am not in a minority here is that funds from those should not go on buying quality replacements or strengthening other areas of the team. i.e. over reliance on loans. We were told we would be strengthening and the situation we find ourselves now in is a matter of opinion. I said before the window closed what the likely outcome would be. You and i dont know how much we were prepared to pay or how much they wanted and how much funds DW had . We dont even know who we were after do we? So i cant judge whether it was the right choice or not. Given that generally i dont like to pay over the odds for stuff of course i can see that the right option might have been to say sod that not paying that. But there are times in life you have to pay the going rate you of all people should acknowledge that the way you have banged on in the past defending football players wages. I hope it doesnt cost us dearly and we go on and finish well up the table. If we end up in a relegation fight however there will be a hell of alot more shitty fans arguing with you on the merits of our strategy. So please dont use the " Who could have seen x been out for the rest of the season" line either as plenty of us could shit happens. Firstly, ive no idea where this 'defending players wages' thing comes from that you think Ive done. You must be confusing me with someone else. Secondly, you are a hopelessly shit fan. SUPPORTING a club doesn't just consist of watching the games. Not in the modern era. Spending your days endlessly slagging the club off, slagging the clubs owner off and generally being as negative as you can be about the club IS why IMO you're a hopelessly shit fan. You're like the opposite of a supporter.. an anti- fan. And even more so when, as you've just pretty much explained, you actually know jack shit about whats going on. Don't know how much money we have, who our targets were, what sort of deals we would have had to commit to to stand any chance of getting them in January. Don;'t know what we offered. Don't know why the signing didn't happen. You just choose to presume they were being tightfisted. They were lying to the fans... deceiving them. never had any intention of signing anyone. Just want to do it on the cheap cos they've no real ambition. etc etc etc and other utter infantile crap. Just another excuse to have a go at dean hoyle like the vast majority of your posts do for some inane ,bizarre reason. but back to my question which you ignored- What would YOU have done if you were in charge this January- a) Only buy players you want if you can get them at a decent price, baring in mind their clubs are reluctant to sell them mid-season unless its for stupid money. If you can't get them for a decent amount, then hold fire with the money you have to spend until the summer when they are far more likely to be available. Use the loan market in the meantime to probably achieve the club's highest finish in 16 years. b) Spend it. Doesn't matter if it isn't the players you ideally want, or if it is that you have to blow way more than they're worth on them. The important thing is you spend the money NOW- cos failing to do that with upset some comically tragic fans who won't tolerate anything less than the club spaffing money on transfer fees. Simple question........a) or b) What would you do? If you answer a), then do us all a favour and shut up blubbering about it, because thats what they did. If you answer b), then you're too dumb to reason with.
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Post by 007Berlin on Feb 6, 2016 7:27:38 GMT 1
Any Nick Hudd thread pisses on this in the "worst of all time" league table.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2016 12:36:41 GMT 1
You really do misjudge me captain and although i would consider myself thick skinned i do take offence to your remark of been a "hoplessly shit fan" its quite hurtful if truth be told. At least i stuck with us and go to the games. We will never see eye to eye on what constitutes team building that much is clear but i want you to be clear on a couple of points. I have embraced on the whole the new direction under Wagner we are playing much better stuff creating more and i want us to be succesful , to always look to improve, to not rest on laurels and be satisfied because i truly believe we can be better than that. Your way always comes accross as the polar opposite look at what we own, look at what were worth , look how much loanees have saved us, even when the results and performances have been crap you would not see us spend a penny or tolerate anybody who suggested we should sign a or b or shouldnt have sold a or b. I accept and have said so many times that we will always have to sell our better players so why you keep banging on like you do that i think town should be with barca and real madrid and all that. I have even put it in bold for you. So please do not level that false accusation again ok. What i dont accept and i am not in a minority here is that funds from those should not go on buying quality replacements or strengthening other areas of the team. i.e. over reliance on loans. We were told we would be strengthening and the situation we find ourselves now in is a matter of opinion. I said before the window closed what the likely outcome would be. You and i dont know how much we were prepared to pay or how much they wanted and how much funds DW had . We dont even know who we were after do we? So i cant judge whether it was the right choice or not. Given that generally i dont like to pay over the odds for stuff of course i can see that the right option might have been to say sod that not paying that. But there are times in life you have to pay the going rate you of all people should acknowledge that the way you have banged on in the past defending football players wages. I hope it doesnt cost us dearly and we go on and finish well up the table. If we end up in a relegation fight however there will be a hell of alot more shitty fans arguing with you on the merits of our strategy. So please dont use the " Who could have seen x been out for the rest of the season" line either as plenty of us could shit happens. Firstly, ive no idea where this 'defending players wages' thing comes from that you think Ive done. You must be confusing me with someone else. Secondly, you are a hopelessly shit fan. SUPPORTING a club doesn't just consist of watching the games. Not in the modern era. Spending your days endlessly slagging the club off, slagging the clubs owner off and generally being as negative as you can be about the club IS why IMO you're a hopelessly shit fan. You're like the opposite of a supporter.. an anti- fan. And even more so when, as you've just pretty much explained, you actually know jack shit about whats going on. Don't know how much money we have, who our targets were, what sort of deals we would have had to commit to to stand any chance of getting them in January. Don;'t know what we offered. Don't know why the signing didn't happen. You just choose to presume they were being tightfisted. They were lying to the fans... deceiving them. never had any intention of signing anyone. Just want to do it on the cheap cos they've no real ambition. etc etc etc and other utter infantile crap. Just another excuse to have a go at dean hoyle like the vast majority of your posts do for some inane ,bizarre reason. but back to my question which you ignored- What would YOU have done if you were in charge this January-
a) Only buy players you want if you can get them at a decent price, baring in mind their clubs are reluctant to sell them mid-season unless its for stupid money. If you can't get them for a decent amount, then hold fire with the money you have to spend until the summer when they are far more likely to be available. Use the loan market in the meantime to probably achieve the club's highest finish in 16 years.
b) Spend it. Doesn't matter if it isn't the players you ideally want, or if it is that you have to blow way more than they're worth on them. The important thing is you spend the money NOW- cos failing to do that with upset some comically tragic fans who won't tolerate anything less than the club spaffing money on transfer fees.
Simple question........a) or b) What would you do?
If you answer a), then do us all a favour and shut up blubbering about it, because thats what they did. If you answer b), then you're too dumb to reason with.
If injuries kick in and we start heading towards relegation, with no backup in key positions and no chance of loan cover as we've already patched over the holes with loans, do you think it would have been advisable to make a transfer or two when we had the chance?
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Post by SaudiTerrier on Feb 6, 2016 12:40:00 GMT 1
I was deceived into thinking this would be a decent thread.
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