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Post by Big Ern on Feb 5, 2016 16:13:30 GMT 1
I seem to recall a poster saying there would be big news coming at the beginning of the year. Perhaps this is the start of it? All the best Nigel, thanks for your help in making the club what it is today.
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Post by de1terrier on Feb 5, 2016 16:15:10 GMT 1
I remember that also. In fact didnt it come from one of the QnAs with Mr. Hoyle
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Post by rantinray on Feb 5, 2016 16:17:38 GMT 1
Do you think there was some skulduggery in getting rid of NC? And getting a "football man" to replace him is a cockamamie idea.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2016 16:22:53 GMT 1
Some on here hinting they knows what's gone on, bullshitters or has there indeed been some skullduggery. I'm guessing the former. Just because people know more than others doesn't mean it's bullshit. |
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Post by artysid on Feb 5, 2016 16:27:25 GMT 1
A CV is already winging (or should that be whinging) it's way up from deepest, darkest Kent Sent from my SM-G900F using proboards Let's hope it's not marcusd's or we'll be well & truly f*cked within a month |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2016 16:32:50 GMT 1
I wonder if we'll ever know the true reason? I'm sure the club will release some details which 99.9% will accept as the truth, however it won't fit in with your agenda so you will somehow spin it to show a lack of ambition by the club. Do you believe all the club tells you, or do you think sometimes there's an element of telling the fans what they want to hear?
"Butterfield is not for sale"
"Vaughan has a leg injury"
There's an element of PR involved in everything that comes out of the club, it's nothing new all organisations do it, but to take it as gospel 100% of the time isn't the way for me.
On the other hand I'd say our chairman can often be too honest at times, in what he says in public. The Vaughan situation was handled very badly IMO.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2016 16:38:58 GMT 1
Maybe Roger Burnley to take the role? I'd have thought Asda would be paying him a damn sight more than we can afford but he could have been instrumental in thought process of a change in direction. By the way you're not Roger Burnley are you, what with your user name and it being your first post? I was thinking perhaps only a part time role is required, given Stuart Webber seems more directly involved with David Wagner than Ross Wilson seemed to be with previous managers, and throw in that Dean Hoyle seems to have taken a step forward again in recent months. Not sure how my username links me to Mr Burnley? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2016 16:39:41 GMT 1
Don't take as Gospel what the club say about Vaughan because sometimes the club can be too honest at times about Vaughan.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2016 16:40:15 GMT 1
Get a bloody Q&A organised sharpish with DH.
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Feb 5, 2016 16:41:22 GMT 1
I'd have thought Asda would be paying him a damn sight more than we can afford but he could have been instrumental in thought process of a change in direction. By the way you're not Roger Burnley are you, what with your user name and it being your first post? I was thinking perhaps only a part time role is required, given Stuart Webber seems more directly involved with David Wagner than Ross Wilson seemed to be with previous managers, and throw in that Dean Hoyle seems to have taken a step forward again in recent months. Not sure how my username links me to Mr Burnley? "legin" as in a leg in or shoe into the job. |
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Post by lankystreak on Feb 5, 2016 16:43:08 GMT 1
I'm sure the club will release some details which 99.9% will accept as the truth, however it won't fit in with your agenda so you will somehow spin it to show a lack of ambition by the club. Do you believe all the club tells you, or do you think sometimes there's an element of telling the fans what they want to hear?
"Butterfield is not for sale"
"Vaughan has a leg injury"
There's an element of PR involved in everything that comes out of the club, it's nothing new all organisations do it, but to take it as gospel 100% of the time isn't the way for me.
On the other hand I'd say our chairman can often be too honest at times, in what he says in public. The Vaughan situation was handled very badly IMO.
The Vaughan situation was too complex to really comment on I.M.O and yes it was handled incorrectly. Regarding Butterfield, he wasn't for sale, but if someone's going to offer crazy money for a player who cost a pittance just over a year earlier then I think anyone would sell, that doesn't mean that when it was originally stated that he's not for sale that the club were lying. Every player is always for sale regardless of who they play for. If the Chinese offered £500 million for Messi Barca would gladly sell him. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2016 16:44:49 GMT 1
I was thinking perhaps only a part time role is required, given Stuart Webber seems more directly involved with David Wagner than Ross Wilson seemed to be with previous managers, and throw in that Dean Hoyle seems to have taken a step forward again in recent months. Not sure how my username links me to Mr Burnley? "legin" as in a leg in or shoe into the job. Ha, no, it's a sermondnilap of my name.  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2016 16:54:49 GMT 1
Apparently he has left in order to head up the EU Referendum "Out" campaign.
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Feb 5, 2016 16:56:15 GMT 1
I'm sure the club will release some details which 99.9% will accept as the truth, however it won't fit in with your agenda so you will somehow spin it to show a lack of ambition by the club. Do you believe all the club tells you, or do you think sometimes there's an element of telling the fans what they want to hear?
"Butterfield is not for sale"
"Vaughan has a leg injury"
There's an element of PR involved in everything that comes out of the club, it's nothing new all organisations do it, but to take it as gospel 100% of the time isn't the way for me.
On the other hand I'd say our chairman can often be too honest at times, in what he says in public. The Vaughan situation was handled very badly IMO.
You really are making shit up now! When did Dean Hoyle ever state that Butterfield was not for sale! |
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Post by hepworthtownfan on Feb 5, 2016 17:05:00 GMT 1
I seem to recall a poster saying there would be big news coming at the beginning of the year. Perhaps this is the start of it? All the best Nigel, thanks for your help in making the club what it is today. Maybe ( conspiracy theory) we have a new investor who wants his own man(woman) on board.....( be careful what you wish for ) |
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Feb 5, 2016 17:09:17 GMT 1
Hope his son can stay in accademy ?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2016 17:09:27 GMT 1
Do you believe all the club tells you, or do you think sometimes there's an element of telling the fans what they want to hear?
"Butterfield is not for sale"
"Vaughan has a leg injury"
There's an element of PR involved in everything that comes out of the club, it's nothing new all organisations do it, but to take it as gospel 100% of the time isn't the way for me.
On the other hand I'd say our chairman can often be too honest at times, in what he says in public. The Vaughan situation was handled very badly IMO.
You really are making shit up now! When did Dean Hoyle ever state that Butterfield was not for sale! At Canalside ahead of the Brighton match, as reported in the Examiner and datm. downatthemac.proboards.com/post/1768824 |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2016 17:16:05 GMT 1
Hope his son can stay in accademy ? Or maybe he's only in the academy still because of his dad... |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2016 17:17:24 GMT 1
Nice guy. Good luck to him. Hmm.. Hmm.. Spoken with him a couple of times. Millbridge club and Guisley away. Was approachable and a nice guy. Good luck to him. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2016 17:18:30 GMT 1
Hope his son can stay in accademy ? Why wouldn't he? |
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Post by lankystreak on Feb 5, 2016 17:19:53 GMT 1
You really are making shit up now! When did Dean Hoyle ever state that Butterfield was not for sale! At Canalside ahead of the Brighton match, as reported in the Examiner and datm. downatthemac.proboards.com/post/1768824As I mentioned above though, this doesn't mean we were being lied to. Every player has a price. A player being touted around with a fixed price is when they are for sale. This was the case of the club receiving an offer too good to turn down. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2016 17:21:43 GMT 1
Hope his son can stay in accademy ? Or maybe he's only in the academy still because of his dad... Wish people would stop quoting his posts, knackers the idea of blocking him. From what I've seen Clibbens Jnr is a long way from making it. Don't get me wrong he's a decent player but not on the same level as one that would be thought of as a future Championship player. He's had the benefit of years in the academy, which would make any average player better. Hopefully Daddy never promised he would be a footballer. Good luck to him though, seems an okay lad. |
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Feb 5, 2016 17:22:17 GMT 1
Hope his son can stay in accademy ? Or maybe he's only in the academy still because of his dad... I was thinking that, Nigel replied to me several times about many issues, good luck to him. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2016 17:22:55 GMT 1
Do you believe all the club tells you, or do you think sometimes there's an element of telling the fans what they want to hear?
"Butterfield is not for sale"
"Vaughan has a leg injury"
There's an element of PR involved in everything that comes out of the club, it's nothing new all organisations do it, but to take it as gospel 100% of the time isn't the way for me.
On the other hand I'd say our chairman can often be too honest at times, in what he says in public. The Vaughan situation was handled very badly IMO.
The Vaughan situation was too complex to really comment on I.M.O and yes it was handled incorrectly. Regarding Butterfield, he wasn't for sale, but if someone's going to offer crazy money for a player who cost a pittance just over a year earlier then I think anyone would sell, that doesn't mean that when it was originally stated that he's not for sale that the club were lying. Every player is always for sale regardless of who they play for. If the Chinese offered £500 million for Messi Barca would gladly sell him. My problem with the story behind that situation was how it changed.
Initially we were told that Town rejected the first 2 bids and we were told Butterfield was not for sale. A couple of weeks later when he was sold, we were told that Butterfield made it very clear as soon as the first bid came in, that he no longer wanted to play for Huddersfield Town with immediate effect. So which was it? Butterfield put in two man of the match performances in his last 2 Town games. Not bad for a player who weeks earlier “...didn’t want to play for us anymore from then on with immediate effect."
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Feb 5, 2016 17:23:24 GMT 1
Or maybe he's only in the academy still because of his dad... Wish people would stop quoting his posts, knackers the idea of blocking him. From what I've seen Clibbens Jnr is a long way from making it. Don't get me wrong he's a decent player but not on the same level as one that would be thought of as a future Championship player. He's had the benefit of years in the academy, which would make any average player better. Hopefully Daddy never promised he would be a footballer. Good luck to him though, seems an okay lad. Why say that bout my posts, im allowed to comment . |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Feb 5, 2016 17:24:01 GMT 1
As I mentioned above though, this doesn't mean we were being lied to. Every player has a price. A player being touted around with a fixed price is when they are for sale. This was the case of the club receiving an offer too good to turn down. He WASNT for sale ( though even Messi is for sale if someone bids enough ) .. don't forget to Factor the fact that the player was desperate to get away and indeed refused to play for us until persuaded ..... I don't see that as an example of Dean Hoyle "lying " though Dean .. as with all chairman, will embellish the truth to suit the needs of himself and the club |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2016 17:26:43 GMT 1
Do you believe all the club tells you, or do you think sometimes there's an element of telling the fans what they want to hear?
"Butterfield is not for sale"
"Vaughan has a leg injury"
There's an element of PR involved in everything that comes out of the club, it's nothing new all organisations do it, but to take it as gospel 100% of the time isn't the way for me.
On the other hand I'd say our chairman can often be too honest at times, in what he says in public. The Vaughan situation was handled very badly IMO.
When did Dean Hoyle ever state that Butterfield was not for sale!Errm, August last year....
www.examiner.co.uk/sport/football/news/huddersfield-town-jacob-butterfield-transfer-9969067
I'd stick to the personal insults if I were you. Debating isn't your thing is it?
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/33980965
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Post by bro600 on Feb 5, 2016 17:26:54 GMT 1
You really are making shit up now! When did Dean Hoyle ever state that Butterfield was not for sale! At Canalside ahead of the Brighton match, as reported in the Examiner and datm. downatthemac.proboards.com/post/1768824I suppose you have to ignore Dean Hoyle's explanation after the transfer so it fits in with the negative bit though. Chairman Dean Hoyle added about the deal. 'I said some time ago the player was not for sale and he was a key player for us. We all wanted to keep Jacob here but he made it very clear as soon as the very first bid came in a few weeks ago, he wanted to leave us there and then. He didn`t want to play for us anymore from then on with immediate effect. Equally, we made it crystal clear that for a transfer to happen, the deal had to be not just a good one but one we could not refuse. As the days have passed, we have rejected a series of further offers to try and retain Jacob at Huddersfield Town but with each bid the situation has become more and more difficult. Jacob has become totally unsettled by the speculation and more and more adamant in his demand to leave us.' Read more: www.huddersfield.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=412104#ixzz3zJN2XnDK |
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Feb 5, 2016 17:26:58 GMT 1
"legin" as in a leg in or shoe into the job. Ha, no, it's a sermondnilap of my name. Ah, as in Nigel. Welcome to the board Mr Clibbens. |
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Post by ben1987 on Feb 5, 2016 17:28:03 GMT 1
I'm sure the club will release some details which 99.9% will accept as the truth, however it won't fit in with your agenda so you will somehow spin it to show a lack of ambition by the club. Do you believe all the club tells you, or do you think sometimes there's an element of telling the fans what they want to hear?
"Butterfield is not for sale"
"Vaughan has a leg injury"
There's an element of PR involved in everything that comes out of the club, it's nothing new all organisations do it, but to take it as gospel 100% of the time isn't the way for me.
On the other hand I'd say our chairman can often be too honest at times, in what he says in public. The Vaughan situation was handled very badly IMO.
Saying Butterfield is for sale or not is absolutely irrelevant. Jacob Butterfield wanted to leave this football club, thats not an opinion, that's an absolute fact. |
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