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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Feb 5, 2016 21:15:08 GMT 1
I heard from reasonably good source within the UK industry (not Ben) that NC screwed the price down so much on the installation of the training pitches at canalside ( wanting a £3m job for under £2m) that corners had to be cut and they may not last half as long as they should do and so will cost the club/DH a lot more in the long run. Maybe Dean had found out and fell it with him? So we train on oval pitches? Explains why we're crap at corners then.
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Post by faffa on Feb 5, 2016 21:49:10 GMT 1
i think DH has seen a huge PR possibility with DW and the way he is, a good image for the club etc. could have been an open discussion about the way for forward and these are perhaps not NC strengths so an amicable agreement was arrived. He will go with a good record able to demand a huge salary good luck to him. Maybe DW has come to realise the benefits in Europe both commercial and players maybe looking at better links that way. CEO moving is standard especially when there is no harm to either party
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Post by Floyds on Feb 5, 2016 22:09:13 GMT 1
Come on Floyds your time is now Haha, I'm gonna get involved!
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Post by mightyterrier on Feb 5, 2016 22:32:13 GMT 1
For some reason it still amuses me that he's a massive fan of The Fall. Can't fault him on that one!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2016 23:10:06 GMT 1
And on what authority do you know this? . typical on here people just guessing and maybe we will never know the reason for his departure Very good authority. But believe what you want.
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Post by richyhtfc on Feb 5, 2016 23:10:37 GMT 1
I just find it a bit sad that folk seem to be lining up not only ready to stick the knife in but eager to twist it too with nothing more than pure speculation. He's gone now, time to move on. This is what DATM does best.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2016 23:13:54 GMT 1
And on what authority do you know this? . typical on here people just guessing and maybe we will never know the reason for his departure Very good authority. But believe what you want. Some on here seem to live in World where it isn't possible for anyone but Dean Hoyle to know what goes on at Huddersfield Town
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Post by richhtfc on Feb 5, 2016 23:28:30 GMT 1
Dean has been very successful as a business man and at that size of business appraisals on job positions at all levels are necessary and regular. He's clearly decided that NC has taken us as far as he can and rather than a 'ship steadier' we now need a forward thinking proactive chief exec to take us to the next level. Looks like good news to me.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2016 23:41:42 GMT 1
Funny how people working at companies with large-ish structures think nothing of a bit of gossip when a high profile person/board member leaves or gets compromised out...
Same happens at a football club & there are ten times the conspiracy theories bandied around for the same event...
Let's not read too much into it, bloke goes with a healthy pay off no doubt, will pick up a decent role within a few months elsewhere & we'll employ the next superstar/clown/boffin/buffoon (almost guarantee all those names will appear on here within a fortnight of the appointment)...
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Post by ritchie on Feb 5, 2016 23:42:19 GMT 1
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Feb 6, 2016 1:07:52 GMT 1
I repeat, he was always most kind, gentlemanly and had time for fans. Then again, he is a L++ds fan so sod him.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2016 1:14:15 GMT 1
You were there when he told DH this were you? Did you record it? And Butterfield also said to Derby So is he lying too? He added: “ From day one this move really interested me. Once I heard something could potentially happen, I started to look further into it and there is such a talented squad and now that I have actually come down to the Training Centre and seen it, I am surprised at just how impressive it is....." www.dcfc.co.uk/news/article/jacob-butterfield-everything-about-derby-county-is-impressive-2662143.aspxKin ell, you really have no idea about the real world do you? PR. It's there to appease the hard of thinking and clearly works on most. Do you expect DB to say "Derby's a shithole but you pay well".?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2016 1:20:07 GMT 1
It depends if you believe what DH said after the sale. I don't frankly, I think it was pure and simple PR to quell the anger amongst fans.
Butterfield said he'd remain committed to Huddersfield Town and the team. He also, as said earlier, put in 2 man of the match performances, apparently weeks after he wanted to leave Huddersfield Town and had no wish to play for them anymore.
Why did he have to be persuaded to board the bus to Fulham then if he was so committed? Allegedly, according to Town PR after flogging our player of the year, first choice keeper and Coady. No idea why the club might want to bullshit a little here, oh no.
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Post by Ruairí on Feb 6, 2016 1:28:32 GMT 1
Marcus you do know there is a facility to just change your name as opposed to having two live accounts ? #happytohelp I like how proboards tempts you with "display post," for blocked posts then you click it thinking "maybe it'll be something worth reading this time," and you open it, and it's the same old unwashed ball sweat, and it's like proboards is mocking you for your delusion.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2016 1:33:27 GMT 1
Marcus you do know there is a facility to just change your name as opposed to having two live accounts ? #happytohelp I like how proboards tempts you with "display post," for blocked posts then you click it thinking "maybe it'll be something worth reading this time," and you open it, and it's the same old unwashed ball sweat, and it's like proboards is mocking you for your delusion. It's worse when you show great strength and don't click on display post, because you've reached that point where you know it is guaranteed to be a massive sack of literary bullshit, then somebody quotes the blockee. Least it confirms your judgement in most cases.
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Post by jonnysmith on Feb 6, 2016 2:00:43 GMT 1
Karma.
I know lots of employees, and ex-employees who are happy tonight. Maybe Clibbens was a good accountant, but he was a horrible man who had absolutely no idea how to manage people. And that is the main role of a Chief Executive. He created a culture of fear. Dean had told him a few times to take time off following complaints of bullying from employees. Maybe he had just gone too far or too often.
I know lots of employees who left their dream jobs at Huddersfield Town, many were top class and lifelong supporters, because of their treatment by Clibbens.
Also, Clibbens was so badly thought of by KSDL and Kirklees Council because he had proved he couldn't be trusted. Clibbens had leaked confidential information from KSDL Board meetings to a "select" group of supporters, who immediately posted it on here. Clibbens was tested and he failed the trust test! Therefore, even though HTFC have their shares in the stadium back, Clibbens burnt so many bridges, am Never atarted so many internal wars, that the relationships and trust was irreparable. To make any forward stride with the Stadium, Clibbens had to go. This week there has ironically been progress info on HD One. HTFC need to be part of this, and with Clibbens in situ, KSDL or the Council wouldn't want HTFC involved.
Trust me, all staff, and all employees at the stadium are happy tonight.
Employ a proper Chief Exec ( please God not Jarvis as he is equally as unpopular within the stadium ) and we will seriously be on the up with Wager, Hoyle, a proper CEO, and an involvement in the HD One project.
The future has become much more positive after today.
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Post by Ruairí on Feb 6, 2016 2:42:46 GMT 1
A touch of white elephantiasis for Mr Smith.
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Post by Essex Terrier on Feb 6, 2016 5:12:36 GMT 1
I heard from reasonably good source within the UK industry (not Ben) that NC screwed the price down so much on the installation of the training pitches at canalside ( wanting a £3m job for under £2m) that corners had to be cut and they may not last half as long as they should do and so will cost the club/DH a lot more in the long run. Maybe Dean had found out and fell it with him? So we train on oval pitches? No, everyone knows we are rubbish at corners, could this be the reason why? Coincidence?
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Post by Essex Terrier on Feb 6, 2016 5:14:30 GMT 1
So we train on oval pitches? Explains why we're crap at corners then. Ooops! Great minds etc?
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Post by Solihull Terrier on Feb 6, 2016 7:39:58 GMT 1
Am I right in thinking Nigel Clibbens was effectively CFO and CEO? Does that mean we're potentially looking for two people to replace him including a dedicated CFO?
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Post by terrierng on Feb 6, 2016 8:42:39 GMT 1
Why did he have to be persuaded to board the bus to Fulham then if he was so committed? Allegedly, according to Town PR after flogging our player of the year, first choice keeper and Coady. No idea why the club might want to bullshit a little here, oh no. No its a fact but proving it would drop a mate in the shit,i knew about the incident way before it became public,there is more to it too but i wont divulge, im not trying to be billy big balls or anything by not saying or trying to come across all itk,but Butterfield wanted to go from day one and made it damn clear it would happen. Now you can have an open mind or carry on with your downer on all things htfc,im really not bothered, believe what you want. On smithies, he didnt want to go but town wanted the money, if Butterfield had gone first then smithies probably stays,Butterfields deal came after and out of the blue, Coady had a buy out clause,the only reason we beat leeds to his signing, wolves met it and it triggered talks,they offer him more simples. No conspiracy theories, no cashing in, it was simply circumstances and timing. But believe what you want.
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Post by royrace on Feb 6, 2016 8:43:15 GMT 1
Karma. I know lots of employees, and ex-employees who are happy tonight. Maybe Clibbens was a good accountant, but he was a horrible man who had absolutely no idea how to manage people. And that is the main role of a Chief Executive. He created a culture of fear. Dean had told him a few times to take time off following complaints of bullying from employees. Maybe he had just gone too far or too often. I know lots of employees who left their dream jobs at Huddersfield Town, many were top class and lifelong supporters, because of their treatment by Clibbens. Also, Clibbens was so badly thought of by KSDL and Kirklees Council because he had proved he couldn't be trusted. Clibbens had leaked confidential information from KSDL Board meetings to a "select" group of supporters, who immediately posted it on here. Clibbens was tested and he failed the trust test! Therefore, even though HTFC have their shares in the stadium back, Clibbens burnt so many bridges, am Never atarted so many internal wars, that the relationships and trust was irreparable. To make any forward stride with the Stadium, Clibbens had to go. This week there has ironically been progress info on HD One. HTFC need to be part of this, and with Clibbens in situ, KSDL or the Council wouldn't want HTFC involved. Trust me, all staff, and all employees at the stadium are happy tonight. Employ a proper Chief Exec ( please God not Jarvis as he is equally as unpopular within the stadium ) and we will seriously be on the up with Wager, Hoyle, a proper CEO, and an involvement in the HD One project. The future has become much more positive after today. Not bitter then? Sent from my GT-I9505 using proboards
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Post by mightyterrier on Feb 6, 2016 9:44:12 GMT 1
Karma. I know lots of employees, and ex-employees who are happy tonight. Maybe Clibbens was a good accountant, but he was a horrible man who had absolutely no idea how to manage people. And that is the main role of a Chief Executive. He created a culture of fear. Dean had told him a few times to take time off following complaints of bullying from employees. Maybe he had just gone too far or too often. I know lots of employees who left their dream jobs at Huddersfield Town, many were top class and lifelong supporters, because of their treatment by Clibbens. Also, Clibbens was so badly thought of by KSDL and Kirklees Council because he had proved he couldn't be trusted. Clibbens had leaked confidential information from KSDL Board meetings to a "select" group of supporters, who immediately posted it on here. Clibbens was tested and he failed the trust test! Therefore, even though HTFC have their shares in the stadium back, Clibbens burnt so many bridges, am Never atarted so many internal wars, that the relationships and trust was irreparable. To make any forward stride with the Stadium, Clibbens had to go. This week there has ironically been progress info on HD One. HTFC need to be part of this, and with Clibbens in situ, KSDL or the Council wouldn't want HTFC involved. Trust me, all staff, and all employees at the stadium are happy tonight. Employ a proper Chief Exec ( please God not Jarvis as he is equally as unpopular within the stadium ) and we will seriously be on the up with Wager, Hoyle, a proper CEO, and an involvement in the HD One project. The future has become much more positive after today. There's an alternative way of looking at this, perhaps Clibbens was the only fella with enough balls to challenge some of the status quo at HTFC and I have heard it mentioned a number of times on this forum the club needed modernising internally. Getting people, who have been used to working a particular way to actually do their jobs is never gonna make you popular. Perhaps Clibbens took us as far as he could, he did the hard mileage for others to come in and add the finishing touches? We shall see soon enough, my honest opinion is I know very little about the internal happenings at the club barring what I hear on this forum. I really couldn't be that bothered, beyond the manager and the players, I turn up every week and judge the club on what I see on the pitch. I am a Happy man.
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Post by bro600 on Feb 6, 2016 9:58:56 GMT 1
Karma. I know lots of employees, and ex-employees who are happy tonight. Maybe Clibbens was a good accountant, but he was a horrible man who had absolutely no idea how to manage people. And that is the main role of a Chief Executive. He created a culture of fear. Dean had told him a few times to take time off following complaints of bullying from employees. Maybe he had just gone too far or too often. I know lots of employees who left their dream jobs at Huddersfield Town, many were top class and lifelong supporters, because of their treatment by Clibbens. Also, Clibbens was so badly thought of by KSDL and Kirklees Council because he had proved he couldn't be trusted. Clibbens had leaked confidential information from KSDL Board meetings to a "select" group of supporters, who immediately posted it on here. Clibbens was tested and he failed the trust test! Therefore, even though HTFC have their shares in the stadium back, Clibbens burnt so many bridges, am Never atarted so many internal wars, that the relationships and trust was irreparable. To make any forward stride with the Stadium, Clibbens had to go. This week there has ironically been progress info on HD One. HTFC need to be part of this, and with Clibbens in situ, KSDL or the Council wouldn't want HTFC involved. Trust me, all staff, and all employees at the stadium are happy tonight. Employ a proper Chief Exec ( please God not Jarvis as he is equally as unpopular within the stadium ) and we will seriously be on the up with Wager, Hoyle, a proper CEO, and an involvement in the HD One project. The future has become much more positive after today. Not bitter then? Sent from my GT-I9505 using proboards The part about KSDL and Kirklees Council is a load of bollox... KMC or KSDL didn't have the interest in HTFC's part in the stadium to try and "test" Clibbens. Talk of "trust" is also laughable as lies and ignorance from them were only highlighted by the campaign. Clibbens may be abhorant and ruffle feathers but he was employed at a time when a "hard brush" was required and now that things are sorted a "soft brush" might be the better option.. Not many individuals are capable of doing both but why not recognize his achievements? If his style is wrong it doesn't make him any less a person just that his and the clubs situation as changed. I see you then had a swipe at S.J ?? Maybe it's you that can't cope as part of a unit or the person who's been "leaking information" you can post on here? Can u be trusted ? Ha Ha You also state that you think that HTFC need to be part of HD ONE and that with Clibbens in charge KSDL or KMC won't want HTFC involved? Doesn't that kind of give you some indication of how KMC/KSDL don't have the right attitude towards HTFC? Or would you be happy to put a nodding dog in to represent HTFC?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2016 10:04:04 GMT 1
Seems like the supporters who met him 2 or 3 times a year got a different person to the everyday Nigel Clibbens
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2016 10:40:39 GMT 1
Karma. I know lots of employees, and ex-employees who are happy tonight. Maybe Clibbens was a good accountant, but he was a horrible man who had absolutely no idea how to manage people. And that is the main role of a Chief Executive. He created a culture of fear. Dean had told him a few times to take time off following complaints of bullying from employees. Maybe he had just gone too far or too often. I know lots of employees who left their dream jobs at Huddersfield Town, many were top class and lifelong supporters, because of their treatment by Clibbens. Also, Clibbens was so badly thought of by KSDL and Kirklees Council because he had proved he couldn't be trusted. Clibbens had leaked confidential information from KSDL Board meetings to a "select" group of supporters, who immediately posted it on here. Clibbens was tested and he failed the trust test! Therefore, even though HTFC have their shares in the stadium back, Clibbens burnt so many bridges, am Never atarted so many internal wars, that the relationships and trust was irreparable. To make any forward stride with the Stadium, Clibbens had to go. This week there has ironically been progress info on HD One. HTFC need to be part of this, and with Clibbens in situ, KSDL or the Council wouldn't want HTFC involved. Trust me, all staff, and all employees at the stadium are happy tonight. Employ a proper Chief Exec ( please God not Jarvis as he is equally as unpopular within the stadium ) and we will seriously be on the up with Wager, Hoyle, a proper CEO, and an involvement in the HD One project. The future has become much more positive after today. And remind me why HD1 is good for Huddersfield Town?
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Post by dugnet on Feb 6, 2016 11:00:43 GMT 1
I find it absolutely baffling how we have 7 pages of largely pointless speculation about the departure of a largely anonymous senior administrator...utterly bizarre if you ask me...
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Post by k1man999 on Feb 6, 2016 11:24:31 GMT 1
Wonder if the next CEO will be German. We are looking at going a different way lower prices etc In Germany they do have low prices but still manage to compete locally and internationally, would be a new approach and would broaden the club's horizons to many new ways of working ,advertising etc. Just a thought
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Post by zoso on Feb 6, 2016 11:29:58 GMT 1
Kin ell, you really have no idea about the real world do you? PR. It's there to appease the hard of thinking and clearly works on most. Do you expect DB to say "Derby's a shithole but you pay well".? Who is the DB you refer to?
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Post by ram on Feb 6, 2016 11:45:34 GMT 1
Wonder if the next CEO will be German. We are looking at going a different way lower prices etc In Germany they do have low prices but still manage to compete locally and internationally, would be a new approach and would broaden the club's horizons to many new ways of working ,advertising etc. Just a thought Aye! There is a theory that Martin Bormann is still alive
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