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Post by E4b on Feb 6, 2016 20:37:05 GMT 1
I would settle for 4th bottom right now! I would be overjoyed with 4th bottom! So RIGHT NOW you would be happy to see Town a further four places lower in the table, Seriously though i know what you are saying, But you are massively over reacting mate. Smell the coffee mate, sometimes it might be nice to watch but it's points we need to stay up and right now we ain't getting any!
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Post by slackjaw on Feb 6, 2016 20:42:44 GMT 1
c ya My stance has not changed, Unless we buy some better players we are going nowhere. Does not matter who is manger. Why come out with that now? surely you know we can not buy anyone now until the summer, FFS yes the club wanted to sign and buy players, They couldn't so will act if need be in the loan window. I don't get the over reaction, Have we been played off the park today = No Were we the better side = Yes Did we score = Yes Did Wells score = Yes Did Preston get a deflected goal = Yes Should we have been awarded the equalizer by the officials = Prob not seen a replay yet. Is lady luck, Rub of the green on our side = No Are we playing better since Wagner became Manager = YES Have the relegation teams gained ground on us today = No Have we dropped further down the table =No Should we be today = Yes of course we should, Because we know we should have won, Would we have felt this way four months ago? We have many reasons to be pissed off tonight, We also have many reasons to be positive, I couldn't go today due to work, But i went to Brighton and i wasn't as pissed off as some of you on here, You thrive on negativity. We lost again forget all that'if and but' bollocks you just said.Get real this team isn't good enough atm.
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Post by ruud1boy on Feb 6, 2016 20:53:18 GMT 1
If we want to go up in the league we need a stronger team. Fk me, you're some kind of football genius! A stronger team you say! Whew - have you communicated this to the club? We need fresh thinking like this.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2016 21:21:15 GMT 1
If we want to go up in the league we need a stronger team. Fk me, you're some kind of football genius! A stronger team you say! Whew - have you communicated this to the club? We need fresh thinking like this. It falls on deaf ears with "the club". We've known for the last 3 transfer windows, that we need at least a striker and a centre back. Apparently 1.5 years isn't long enough to "pick the right player".
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2016 21:23:53 GMT 1
he is right in as far as we've needed a striker and a center back for a while.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2016 21:32:52 GMT 1
Nobody is fickle for complaining or moaning about things . Only fickle fans are those that stop supporting in difficult times. Happy clapper or moaning git we are all Town fans so let's respect each others view point, we all want the best for Town.
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Post by yanfan on Feb 6, 2016 22:23:03 GMT 1
Our defence is shite because they got a really lucky ricochet off Lynch? FFS some of you on here are completely pathetic, embarrassing. No mate as I said earlier our defence is shite because we have lost 4 on the trot and let in 12 goals.Average 3 per game.Shite defending!
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Post by haveitback on Feb 7, 2016 18:15:42 GMT 1
Why come out with that now? surely you know we can not buy anyone now until the summer, FFS yes the club wanted to sign and buy players, They couldn't so will act if need be in the loan window. I don't get the over reaction, Have we been played off the park today = No Were we the better side = Yes Did we score = Yes Did Wells score = Yes Did Preston get a deflected goal = Yes Should we have been awarded the equalizer by the officials = Prob not seen a replay yet. Is lady luck, Rub of the green on our side = No Are we playing better since Wagner became Manager = YES Have the relegation teams gained ground on us today = No Have we dropped further down the table =No Should we be today = Yes of course we should, Because we know we should have won, Would we have felt this way four months ago? We have many reasons to be pissed off tonight, We also have many reasons to be positive, I couldn't go today due to work, But i went to Brighton and i wasn't as pissed off as some of you on here, You thrive on negativity. We lost again forget all that'if and but' bollocks you just said.Get real this team isn't good enough atm. Please highlight the If & but quotes i have written, I have only quoted fact from yest and i never said the team were good enough, They have however improved in terms of performance and fitness since DW came in, We do lack in defence and upfront, Something everyone including those incharge at the club are fully aware of. It is not i that needs to get real after the comments which have been posted in this forum over last couple of days, Imo we will not go down nor will we be anywhere near the relegation zone come the end of the season. UTT
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Post by Detective Boyle on Feb 7, 2016 22:13:08 GMT 1
Must admit I was a bit peeved yesterday with the result. Got me thinking that we should've improved our defence in January. I still think that's right however having read the just got back reviews I'm a little more relaxed about things and this team should start picking up results (however - our next few games will be a big test). I'm also in the camp that thinks we can still be relegated. Anyone can beat anyone in this league.
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Feb 7, 2016 23:04:41 GMT 1
A couple of wins and you'll all change your tune again!! UTT Give us all a clue when that might happen so we can all change our tune now.
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Post by Barbieterrier on Feb 7, 2016 23:10:47 GMT 1
Thought we were all happy to be watching better quality football? A team that turns up gives their all but in some cases are really unlucky? We need to take our chances and finish. Wagner has made some huge changes to what we are seeing before us in terms of what we were watching at the beginning of the season. But all round changes aren't going to happen over night. We're not going down and whilst I agree watching what's going on below us is disheartening all the time and we want to be competitive enough to be able to look up the table a bit - think we all realistically know that isn't going to happen this season. Let's have some patience.
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Post by Headless Chicken on Feb 8, 2016 8:12:38 GMT 1
Thought we were all happy to be watching better quality football? A team that turns up gives their all but in some cases are really unlucky? We need to take our chances and finish. Wagner has made some huge changes to what we are seeing before us in terms of what we were watching at the beginning of the season. But all round changes aren't going to happen over night. We're not going down and whilst I agree watching what's going on below us is disheartening all the time and we want to be competitive enough to be able to look up the table a bit - think we all realistically know that isn't going to happen this season. Let's have some patience. Unfortunately that was never gonna happen! A few have always said the results are all that comes into their thought process, so I suppose after the recent run, fair enough. Not that I agree with this black and white view. Others though did say all they wanted to see was effort, decent football and making more of an effort to win. Some of these are wavering already......as expected.
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Post by fredcarno1 on Feb 8, 2016 11:20:33 GMT 1
If we can stay about where we are, ie comfortably above the drop zone and seeing decent football that will do me for this season. Hopefully we can then shift a decent amount of season tickets and Wagner can get a few of his players in and hopefully improve the defence. The amount of bad goals we concern must however be a concern to everyone, whilst we continue to do that were no way safe from relegation and what a shame it would be to get relegated with the feel good factor back at the club and a cheap season ticket offer in the pipeline.
With the all things being equalled the so called fickle fans would say "typical Town" if we were to go down, I don't think they'd be far off the mark if we did go down. That said I think we will 'just' have enough to stay up, I think it'll be a nail biter though !!
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Post by galpharm2400 on Feb 8, 2016 13:14:47 GMT 1
Thought we were all happy to be watching better quality football? A team that turns up gives their all but in some cases are really unlucky? We need to take our chances and finish. Wagner has made some huge changes to what we are seeing before us in terms of what we were watching at the beginning of the season. But all round changes aren't going to happen over night. We're not going down and whilst I agree watching what's going on below us is disheartening all the time and we want to be competitive enough to be able to look up the table a bit - think we all realistically know that isn't going to happen this season. Let's have some patience. Unfortunately that was never gonna happen! A few have always said the results are all that comes into their thought process, so I suppose after the recent run, fair enough. Not that I agree with this black and white view. Others though did say all they wanted to see was effort, decent football and making more of an effort to win. Some of these are wavering already......as expected. the 'effort' to win the game is not solely confined to being more productive in the middle third. Its about defending better and further up the pitch, which is what gengen is supposedly about?? winning games may well be just about scoring more than the opposition, as that isnt happening then the 'plan' needs looking at again and changes have to be forced through.. in professional sport looking great but losing is no longer a money spinner.. effort applied in the wrong areas is definitely giving us plenty back in our box as the ball hits our net, again..
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2016 13:19:22 GMT 1
No win in 5 is not fickle.
Conceding 2 goals in ten minutes against a piss poor side is not fickle.
Wagner needs to sort it
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Post by Headless Chicken on Feb 8, 2016 13:28:47 GMT 1
No win in 5 is not fickle. Conceding 2 goals in ten minutes against a piss poor side is not fickle. Wagner needs to sort it Depends what people are saying though doesn't it. I would certainly agree there's scope for a grumble. There's legitimate complaints, but in particular those that wanted us to be more entertaining and go out for the win can hardly be surprised when we then concede more. Football fans do love feeling sorry for themselves though and patting themselves on the back for singing a few songs.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Feb 8, 2016 13:45:55 GMT 1
No win in 5 is not fickle. Conceding 2 goals in ten minutes against a piss poor side is not fickle. Wagner needs to sort it Depends what people are saying though doesn't it. I would certainly agree there's scope for a grumble. There's legitimate complaints, but in particular those that wanted us to be more entertaining and go out for the win can hardly be surprised when we then concede more. Football fans do love feeling sorry for themselves though and patting themselves on the back for singing a few songs. we concede the same goals as before.. same type, same mistakes, same poor starting positions and same ball watching.. we can be dull and lose and entertain and lose.. something obvious in that isnt there? granted we have to work harder now to contrive to lose games but the 'gift' is always still there to get too close to holding hands with our own keeper and allow piss poor attempts to go in simply because they are made from so close to our goal.. some will say I simplify it too much.. its very complicated and difficult to understand apparently.. simple, brown is 4/5 yards further out on saturday, he does not score, lynch is 4/5 yards further up, he does not skew it into our goal.. if you spend 90 minutes as a team getting as far away from your goal as humanly possible or sensible to be so in open play, the percentages are better. there are good teams with good players in this division, make them work or do something to get their goals. just being 6 yards from our goal time after time and not being marked or pushed back is making average teams/players look better than they are..
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2016 13:47:33 GMT 1
When the going gets tough...
Now is the time when it easy to tell the men from the boys. Despite a number of fine performances, and when the team needs our support more than ever, a few on here run away crying the below:
* We need more players * Hoyle is keeping the money * Wagner needs to sort it etc, etc.
Wagner can do little about missed chances, poor decisions, and fluke own goals. He has, however, improved our play immeasurably. Keep the faith.
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Post by Manx Terrier on Feb 8, 2016 13:59:18 GMT 1
Nobody is fickle for complaining or moaning about things . Only fickle fans are those that stop supporting in difficult times. Happy clapper or moaning git we are all Town fans so let's respect each others view point, we all want the best for Town. Spot on. Fed up with posters telling other posters what opinions they should have.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2016 14:22:17 GMT 1
Nobody is fickle for complaining or moaning about things . Only fickle fans are those that stop supporting in difficult times. Happy clapper or moaning git we are all Town fans so let's respect each others view point, we all want the best for Town. Spot on. Fed up with posters telling other posters what opinions they should have. indeed we do want the best for town.As i have said many times we have lots to do to stay up looking at the remaining games but even if the worst happened the club has to stay with wagner who for me while not havingexperiencehH and having to learn the division is the man to take us foreward in the future. The other teams below us have strenghend there squads and for me there are nine clubs who are involved in the relegation battle including ourselves but ive no complaints about the way we are trying to play we just need or needed that bit more quality in the last third .lets pull together and support the team and hope for a positive outcome.To hear r leeds catherine hannah and oggy suggesting we havnt much to worry about regarding being dragged in to the bottom three shows how nieve they are. lets see after this month where we are. hopefully still well clear
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Post by galpharm2400 on Feb 8, 2016 15:05:21 GMT 1
When the going gets tough... Now is the time when it easy to tell the men from the boys. Despite a number of fine performances, and when the team needs our support more than ever, a few on here run away crying the below: * We need more players * Hoyle is keeping the money * Wagner needs to sort it etc, etc. Wagner can do little about missed chances, poor decisions, and fluke own goals. He has, however, improved our play immeasurably. Keep the faith. if wagner cannot do anything about missed chances, poor decisions and us being in the wrong places to score own goals then he must be sacked tommorow and someone who can must be brought in?? managers dont just come in and talk a beautiful and exciting game, or maybe they do??? maybe defending and the dull stuff is just not on the agenda and we will 'see how we go' because once in a while we might get 5 goals inbetween a few defeats and that will make up for them??? his deference to choose missed chances rather than defending like 10 year olds on saturday might be an eye opener.. suffice to say we defend like that against better teams and we will never score enough... very few fluke own goals, the team that have the ball in the opponents box have made that incident. players make mistakes but you more than not have to put them in a position where the mistake becomes fatal.. frank sinclair aside, i have seen very few own goals from any sort of distance.. if the opposition drop into their box, get some bodies in there and get the ball in at every opportunity.. bingo...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2016 15:20:59 GMT 1
When the going gets tough... Now is the time when it easy to tell the men from the boys. Despite a number of fine performances, and when the team needs our support more than ever, a few on here run away crying the below: * We need more players * Hoyle is keeping the money * Wagner needs to sort it etc, etc. Wagner can do little about missed chances, poor decisions, and fluke own goals. He has, however, improved our play immeasurably. Keep the faith. if wagner cannot do anything about missed chances, poor decisions and us being in the wrong places to score own goals then he must be sacked tommorow and someone who can must be brought in?? managers dont just come in and talk a beautiful and exciting game, or maybe they do??? maybe defending and the dull stuff is just not on the agenda and we will 'see how we go' because once in a while we might get 5 goals inbetween a few defeats and that will make up for them??? his deference to choose missed chances rather than defending like 10 year olds on saturday might be an eye opener.. suffice to say we defend like that against better teams and we will never score enough... very few fluke own goals, the team that have the ball in the opponents box have made that incident. players make mistakes but you more than not have to put them in a position where the mistake becomes fatal.. frank sinclair aside, i have seen very few own goals from any sort of distance.. if the opposition drop into their box, get some bodies in there and get the ball in at every opportunity.. bingo... Have you ever read Soccernomics? I'd recommend it. One of the things they look at is the impact a manager has on results/success of a team - they conclude, with a few exceptions, money plays a far greater role in how a side fairs, certainly over a sustained period of time. Small quote here: "As Johan Cruijff said when he was coaching Barcelona, “If your players are better than your opponents, 90 percent of the time you will win.” There cannot be many businesses where a manager would make such an extravagant claim. The chairman of General Motors does not say that the art of good management is simply hiring the best designers or the best production managers.” We've had this debate before, until we get better players the chances of us progressing up the league (or stopping conceding daft goals) are pretty slim.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2016 16:41:23 GMT 1
if wagner cannot do anything about missed chances, poor decisions and us being in the wrong places to score own goals then he must be sacked tommorow and someone who can must be brought in?? managers dont just come in and talk a beautiful and exciting game, or maybe they do??? maybe defending and the dull stuff is just not on the agenda and we will 'see how we go' because once in a while we might get 5 goals inbetween a few defeats and that will make up for them??? his deference to choose missed chances rather than defending like 10 year olds on saturday might be an eye opener.. suffice to say we defend like that against better teams and we will never score enough... very few fluke own goals, the team that have the ball in the opponents box have made that incident. players make mistakes but you more than not have to put them in a position where the mistake becomes fatal.. frank sinclair aside, i have seen very few own goals from any sort of distance.. if the opposition drop into their box, get some bodies in there and get the ball in at every opportunity.. bingo... Have you ever read Soccernomics? I'd recommend it. One of the things they look at is the impact a manager has on results/success of a team - they conclude, with a few exceptions, money plays a far greater role in how a side fairs, certainly over a sustained period of time. Small quote "As Johan Cruijff said when he was coaching Barcelona, “If your players are better than your opponents, 90 percent of the time you will win.” There cannot be many businesses where a manager would make such an extravagant claim. The chairman of General Motors does not say that the art of good management is simply hiring the best designers or the best production managers.” We've had this debate before, until we get better players the chances of us progressing up the league (or stopping conceding daft goals) are pretty slim. WITH REDFEARNgone from Rotherham it shows the pressure to stay up this season and its anyones guess what the final outcome will be
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Post by morleyterrier on Feb 13, 2016 17:58:43 GMT 1
Bump. This forum will be a different place tonight.
There will be more defeats to come, more shambolic defending, more trying to play a pass at the back and conceding as a result, more of Wagner learning about himself, more of Wagner learning about his Team.
What a result that is though.
Love the Guy.
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Post by richyhtfc on Feb 13, 2016 18:15:09 GMT 1
so what your saying is expect another 4 defeats till our next good win?
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Post by morleyterrier on Feb 13, 2016 18:17:24 GMT 1
So to summarise, Morley - under Powell we were only treated to your pearls of wisdom when we lost and now under Wagner we're only going to be treated when we win? I missed this one first time round. If you are going to have a pop at me please do your homework and do not misrepresent me right. I have repeatedly posted in support of Wagner after defeats to Cardiff, Middlesbrough, Brighton, Brentford etc. Last week though, I just couldn't not be arsed duelling with the doom and gloom merchants. My stance and 100% support of Wagner has not wavered ONCE since his appointment (win, lose or draw).
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Post by morleyterrier on Feb 13, 2016 18:24:54 GMT 1
so what your saying is expect another 4 defeats till our next good win? Richyhtfc, I can only apologise on behalf of Huddersfield Town that we won today and have completely ruined your night. Good to see you back on my posts.
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Post by ACW on Feb 13, 2016 18:27:33 GMT 1
so what your saying is expect another 4 defeats till our next good win? No he's not. He's saying that there will be more ups and downs to come. That's the same for pretty much every team in this division. Cracking result today. Well deserved too. Let's all enjoy it after the frustration of recent weeks.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2016 18:28:55 GMT 1
we go for it. sometimes we get caught out.
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Post by richyhtfc on Feb 13, 2016 18:33:19 GMT 1
so what your saying is expect another 4 defeats till our next good win? Richyhtfc, I can only apologise on behalf of Huddersfield Town that we won today and have completely ruined your night. Good to see you back on my posts. Well someones got to feed your narcissism. You bump threads and shock horror people reply, imagine that.
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