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Post by townrwe on Dec 9, 2023 19:09:10 GMT 1
While the second half wasn't great, I thought the first half was really encouraging. Nowhere as bad as some of the performances under him so far. Jesus... take Darren's specs off. Should have been 0-2 after 2 minutes.
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Post by townrwe on Dec 9, 2023 19:03:46 GMT 1
The football is terrible, but I think you have to give him at least one window. The squad is poor, nobody gets a tune out of them as it is imo. Warnock was doing about the same as Moore this season before he was sacked. Give him some better players and I think we play more attacking, at the moment he’s just doing what he can with the poor hand he’s been dealt. I'd agree if we were seeing progression or positive subs, or proactive changes in game. Those things are nothing to do with the players avaialble, it's poor management. He can't communicate which doesn't help his standing with fans, but he looks the same on the sideline, like the cogs aren't working or need oiling at least. It's dreadful management of an equally dreadful team. His only saving grace is he can keep scores down by playing every defensive player available, but the fans are turning away now.
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Post by townrwe on Dec 9, 2023 18:57:41 GMT 1
He's thick, has no capacity to think when he hasn't planned it out, should be sacked based on 2 wins from 13, from dreadful performances and a stewardship that's more and moore looking like he'd be second choice to fozza.
Some bloke hit the nail on the head as I was leaving, he said it would need to be 30° and free beer for me to turn up on Tuesday..
It's shitter than shit.
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Post by townrwe on Dec 6, 2023 15:33:52 GMT 1
Should probably offer a weeks/months free trial. I'm not going to sign upto something without guaranteed continuity or knowing the quality of the broadcast without the weight of the examiner behind them or what future interviews are scheduled. But good luck, hope it goes well. When you say “weight of the Examiner behind them”, what do you actually mean? Steven Chicken was single-handedly propping up examiner football coverage. The content they have now is behind a paywall, but it’s of the same quality as before… the user experience has been enhanced because the landing pages on SubStack are advert free. I’m happy to vouch for the quality. Arguably it’s a better experience than before, for a more than fair price. Fair enough, I just dont see a position where id be willing to subscribe monthly to an unknown, Pretty much every subscription service has a try before you buy, and I think would probably increase uptake and also identify the likely size of the audience and if its likely to be a sustainable model or if it could even be expanded as an offering.
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Post by townrwe on Dec 6, 2023 14:35:58 GMT 1
Should probably offer a weeks/months free trial. I'm not going to sign upto something without guaranteed continuity or knowing the quality of the broadcast without the weight of the examiner behind them or what future interviews are scheduled.
But good luck, hope it goes well.
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Post by townrwe on Dec 5, 2023 12:08:51 GMT 1
Sunderland did for me, as I wasn't impressed with the Southampton match at all. Assume you went home at half time, if you weren’t impressed with the Soton match. The second half vs Southampton was acceptable, no more, Hardly the gutbusting, all action, attacking football we were promised. The slight improvement in our play was outdone by southampton totally not turning up for the second half, They were alot worse in the second half than we were better. Sunderland was an awful game really and then it was totally outdone by Swansea.... If our plan is to play low block football, Home or Away vs any oppositon, Then ill only be watching it when Ive nothing better to do, Which around Xmas is probably not very often. Need some inspiration in January as Moore seems to have survived until the next bad run.
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Post by townrwe on Dec 5, 2023 8:40:38 GMT 1
Will be interesting to see the crowd numbers on Saturday... despite a really good week results wise I'm more unmotivated to turn up and endure a another tepid, back to the wall performance this week than last. Despite been a season ticket holder and not missing a Home game I could have got to for over 6 years. I really can't be bothered going. Especially as you can watch games online these days and turn them off when it's dreadful.
I can't be the only one, there must be a good % having the same thoughts.
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Post by townrwe on Dec 2, 2023 18:00:44 GMT 1
We seem to let in so many late goals, not a good habit Another thing that was happening under fozza. Football is poor, but a decent week results wise despite throwing this one away late.
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Post by townrwe on Nov 29, 2023 22:57:18 GMT 1
Well done town. Great result. Presume Emley won as well then... Yeah 2-1, We could do with the championship version of the lad up front Reuban Jerome, like a non league haaland. Probably far too much to step up, but looks like he could play a few divisions higher. Enjoyed it more than today's game, but obviously the 3 points for town mean more to me.
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Post by townrwe on Nov 29, 2023 22:41:20 GMT 1
Well done town. Great result.
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Post by townrwe on Nov 29, 2023 21:19:07 GMT 1
Better so far to be fair, was about to say that before the goal.... just hope we don't sit off protecting the lead and let them get into the game now.
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Post by townrwe on Nov 29, 2023 20:56:07 GMT 1
Gk, 5 at the back and 2 defensive midfielders makes 8 for me. If we play 343 rather than 541 then fair enough, let's see how many defender we have when we start. Will probably quickly drop into a flat back 10. It won't be 0-0, i can't see Sunderland been as accommodating as Watford and Southampton were in the second half. But do agree a point would be a good point and pretty much essential we come back with it Any less and its another nail in the already closed coffin. It’s 5-4-1 out of possession and 3-4-3 in possession. As it has been for the last number of weeks. It doesn’t surprise me that you haven’t seemed to grasp that. When your only having 18% possession.. its not is it really. 82% of the time we have 8 defenders on the pitch.
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Post by townrwe on Nov 29, 2023 20:33:28 GMT 1
suprise i was told was Burgzorg / Ward would start and the other on the bench, i think its a suprise (and a positive one) as I am shocked Zorg can start after only able to play 20 - 30mins at the weekend, and suprised (some will be) that Ward has made a squad without NW as the manager. Decent team selection tonight and we have some pace on the break. Portugal is correct on Rudoni he is closer than expected and maybe back with the first team end of this week. Teamsheet does look much better. Run out of excuses tonight.
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Post by townrwe on Nov 29, 2023 20:29:35 GMT 1
i myself wasnt there and first game ive missed for ages but it was due to personal reasons, i also know of quite a lot off people who are ill with this cold /flu so i think your assumptions are miles off! Me, myself, personally. What is the modern thing with stating yourself more than once? It's how we calculated the attendance the other night. I went as myself me. 3 clicks on the clicker.
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Post by townrwe on Nov 29, 2023 20:24:04 GMT 1
8 defensive players on the pitch. We are definitely hoping for a 0-0. Looking forward to an entertaining evening on the firestick with the Sunderland commentators taking the piss out of our plight. why would you bother wasting your time, isnt it bed time soon. you are way too negative about everything you must be difficult to live with. Maxwell (1) Helik (2) Pearson (3) Lees (4) Hogg (5) I will give you Jackson (6) but he is good going forward also Kasumu (not a chance just a hard working midfielder) Headley ( not a chance this is negative, playing Yuta would be) Sorba JK Zorg ill give you 6 but 8 your having a laugh, although we will be delighted with 0-0 by the way Gk, 5 at the back and 2 defensive midfielders makes 8 for me. If we play 343 rather than 541 then fair enough, let's see how many defender we have when we start. Will probably quickly drop into a flat back 10. It won't be 0-0, i can't see Sunderland been as accommodating as Watford and Southampton were in the second half. But do agree a point would be a good point and pretty much essential we come back with it Any less and its another nail in the already closed coffin.
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Post by townrwe on Nov 29, 2023 20:05:04 GMT 1
8 defensive players on the pitch. We are definitely hoping for a 0-0.
Looking forward to an entertaining evening on the firestick with the Sunderland commentators taking the piss out of our plight.
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Post by townrwe on Nov 29, 2023 20:00:00 GMT 1
Can only be the result of another injury.......to much work on the work with the work going on at work. Maybe he’s managing players minutes,maybe Kasumu after his injury can’t do 2 games in 4 days or 3 games in a week to look at it another way or a mixture of both.We will see on that front but if I had to guess it would be that he drops to the bench with an eye on injuries and is back in Saturday.I’ll probably be totally wrong on that now like but it’s logical to assume that’s the case. Yes that would have been sensible, good management....... surely Darren will be looking after the lads with all the games coming up.
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Post by townrwe on Nov 29, 2023 16:39:29 GMT 1
I was thinking iorpenda possibly to get a start.been around it a few weeks now Can only be the result of another injury.......to much work on the work with the work going on at work.
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Post by townrwe on Nov 29, 2023 16:03:06 GMT 1
You have put figures forward for the spend, I would guess that the amount that they have received in that time was greater than we managed to rake in. Unfortunately we seemed to waste all the the money we spent. Investing in 30 year old strikers will not bring in any revenue. Interestingly. From the period including the 4 seasons up to promotion to and then our relegation from the Premier league. Brighton received £35.4m in transfer fees. We received £31.9m. So in that 6 year period they received £3.5m more than us in transfer fees, but spent £75m more than we did. They went up as champions, we finished 3rd and went up through the play offs. In the fist PL season we finished 16th, they finished 15th, 3 points above us curtesy of drawing 3 more matches than us. In the second season we finished bottom and they finished 1 place and 2 points above the relegation. The following season they spent £53m and received £7.4m 20/21 spent £43.4m, received £17.9m 21/22 spent £65m, received £68.2m 22/23 spent £48.2, received £119.3m 23/24 spent £87m, received £164.4m So we can see that in the 6 year period where we were almost matching Brighton's performance on the pitch, they were massively outspending us to the tune of £75m....I would imagine the bulk of that money came from the owner?? In the 2021/22 Accounts they were £499m in debt to him The point I'm trying to make is that if we are to follow the Brighton model, as some are suggesting, it would require a massive investment (debt) by the owners and a huge investment in the playing squad......And that's not revolutionary The suggestion was to copy what these clubs are doing rather than reinvent it and then revolutionise it with new thinking once a structure is in place. You can only spend to your budget, We start a few years behind where they started and get to where they are a little sooner by further optimising the process' they have used and combining best practice from other clubs. There is no point comparing us and them, they are still there and their model is paying dividends. They bought players within their recruitment structure to pay dividends in future, but with short term survival in mind, We never planned to be there, but got there without a plan and now we are 4th bottom of the championship and sinking.
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Post by townrwe on Nov 29, 2023 13:42:40 GMT 1
Revolution through evolution. Its no good comparing us to anyone else, our budgets, location, facilities are unique, The positive aspects of Huddersfield are a fairly hard sell unless your offering big wages, a trip to castle hill or a house in birkby and decent chicken from Marstons probably isnt going to be a deal clincher. We are close to Leeds is about the only draw outside of football. So we have to find our USP. Cartwright "appears" to have decided that is giving players that have shown they can play in the past but have fallen out of form or favour a platform to shine at huddersfield, thats his perogative and is what worked for him at stokalona, but its just regurgitating something that was reasonably sucessful 10 years ago. Hes teamed that up with a cheerleader to try to give them confidence to regain their previous form.. certainly nothing revolutionary, but a kind of USP. Recent sucess in many major leagues around the world, for clubs outperforming their budgets has come from committing to a moneyball approach, for that you need an expert in moneyball, not someone regurgitating past success. Firstly i would headhunt people out of the finest moneyball exmaples, it would be difficult to get them out of brighton or brentford, but we may stand a chance of recruiting to a director role if they are currently 2nd on the ship. That would give us a lift up onto the shoulders of these clubs and id ask him to shamelessly implement that process as our club. Id hire computer programmers, High IQ candidates with masters in statistics, and trust the moneyball process. Id get the people that dont understand football to determine the KPIs of positions within the team and understand that they will change as each puzzle piece is entered into the team and that when you enter one piece another one may need changing. Id implement the "Huddersfield Way" of playing, probably a 433, High Press, Attacking, fairly direct style. would be my philosophy, but id actually listen to the fans for what they wanted the philosphy to be and implement the finding pragmatically. On to USP, We could use cartwrights approach, its not a dreadful idea, just lacks the 10 year later thought process' and evolution of his idea, combined with offering raw talent, like rudoni a platform to play regular games. Management wise, you would need more than a motivator if your developing players, so i would be looking for a developing manager as well, doubt the guy from tolouse would come to town, or potter, but those kind of appointments a step earlier. Very basic rundown of what my approach would be. So actually nothing revolutionary then. Just copying something that has been around for a number of years now and used by pretty much every club in the country, including Town. Spurs started using the above under Damien Carmolli in 2006/7 when they worked with Decision Technology Liverpool started using the above from around 2012, when Ian Graham joined them. He hired the likes of Tim Waskett who has a first class honours in Astrophysics and Will Spearman who had a doctorate in High Energy Physics from Harvard. Jurgen Klopp became their manager in 2015, and as we all know, just over 12 months later his best mate joined us and is quoted by pretty much everyone as revolutionising the club. It was Wagner who brought in all the ideas around data and analysts, from what his mate had at his disposal at Anfield. Naturally, we don't have the same budget to be hiring the calibre of people Liverpool do. And I'm sorry but someone second in command at a Brighton or Brentford type club is not gonna come to Huddersfield Town any time soon. They'd either stay where they were, wait for the number 1 to be poached by a bigger club or they'd move to another PL club or bigger Championship club than us Burnley were one of the first clubs to enter into a partnership with AiScout in 2021. We now have Technical Scouts and Video Scouts who make use of such technology. Villa have been using the Moneyball approach since around 2015 Brentford have been using it for years and it forms a lot of what Brighton do. How do you know that Darren Moore is not a motivator? Have you actually seen him on the training pitches interacting with the players at Canalside. Have you seen him delivering video session to the players, have you sat in on his 1-2-1's with players, his pre-match, half time and end of match talks? Have you spoken to any of the players personally and asked them about him? Or are you just going by what you see and hear in his interviews and how he is on the touchline. Maybe he's crap infront and a camera or with a microphone in his face? Many many successful managers have not been like Carlos or Wagner on the sidelines, but more reserved and thoughtful. In a nutshell. You haven't really got a clue what you're on about. You may have a high IQ, but in the words of Positive/Prepare, you do not understand football In essence, that is what the revolution is turbocharged moneyball, The removal of all supposed football understanding from recruitment to become totally results driven, Employ high IQ maths whizz' who have no interest in football to do the recruiting, limiting bias. It would be a hard sell to any club, but the barrier to true moneyball is opinion, giving darren moore 5 choices shows that the current encumbant doesnt understand moneyball or statistical recruitment. There is only 1 best player for a role, and that should be the player you choose.
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Post by townrwe on Nov 29, 2023 12:55:32 GMT 1
Currently up in Sunderland for tonights games, its very very cold outside a really slight dusting of snow but mainly ice. They have undersoil heating so pitch will be fine, i think the game will be played without issues. Expecting to see a suprise name in the starting line up tonight for us also, it maybe just on the bench but there is a good chance it will be from the start. Centre half injured and as Darren Moore player manager? 😉 Simon Ireland on to take set pieces?
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Post by townrwe on Nov 29, 2023 12:54:34 GMT 1
Need your head testing if you’re off up there tonight or Swansea on Saturday. Agreed and the same people have the audacity to question my sanity.
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Post by townrwe on Nov 29, 2023 12:26:39 GMT 1
It would be interesting to know why you think that is the case... seemed like a pretty average employee in any business, probably fairly reliable, probably does a reasonable job, but not someone that's revolutionary or inspirational or bringing something new to the table. You could replace cartwright with any relatively experienced director of football and you wouldn't even bat an eyelid. Sane for moore, replace him with say rowett and you probably wouldn't see a massive change in results. David wagner was revolutionary, deano recognised that and backed him in a way that he never backed anyone else. Nagel employed people he trusts. He trusts them because he believes they are safe pairs of hands. What we need is revolutionary people, harder to find and more risky. if only it was that easy perhaps you could take over!!? On seccond thoughts !!? There is no-one currently showing any outstanding capacity in their jobs, maybe they will given time, January is a massive month for all involved if they are still in post by then, if they make a shit sandwich of that maybe Kev will send me a message asking me to sort it out. I have managed alot of people and looking back I can only really think of a few that I moved heaven and earth to keep. Most of the time the conversation is, "ive got a new Job" and the respose is "when do you start" and "good luck"
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Post by townrwe on Nov 29, 2023 12:20:00 GMT 1
I dont dislike any of them to be fair, they are a quite likeable bunch... but I don't see anything across the board to suggest they are anything more than mildly competent. there is nothing revolutionary.... Edwards appears very good for his role? Not sure on his ability to be revolutionary or infact how wide his remit can be to be so, certainly on the playing side. Can I ask, what type of things, realistically, would be revolutionary for Huddersfield Town to do? You've mentioned following the likes of Brentford and Brighton. But that's not revolutionary. Brentford disbanded their Academy and set up a B team model. Recruited from countries such as France and Holland. And were early adopters of using Data. We did the same by disbanding our Academy, set up a B Team model and started to recruit youngsters from France, Holland and Sweden, before that got stopped due to Brexit. As well as starting to use more Data. Brighton were another early adopter of Data and invested very very heavily in it and their playing squad. They've spent over £425M since we were both promoted to the PL. Plus around £25m in the 4 seasons up to promotion to the PL. So they spent over £20m more than us over 4 season to get promoted. Then in our first season in the PL they spent another £20m more then we did to stay up, plus an additional £35m more than us in the second season. Over 6 seasons leading up to promotion to and then our eventual relegation from the PL they spent £75m more than we did. And then a further £300m since we got relegated and they finished 17th & 2 points above relegation. So that's hardly revolutionary. So what are these revolutionary things you keep referring to? Revolution through evolution. Its no good comparing us to anyone else, our budgets, location, facilities are unique, The positive aspects of Huddersfield are a fairly hard sell unless your offering big wages, a trip to castle hill or a house in birkby and decent chicken from Marstons probably isnt going to be a deal clincher. We are close to Leeds is about the only draw outside of football. So we have to find our USP. Cartwright "appears" to have decided that is giving players that have shown they can play in the past but have fallen out of form or favour a platform to shine at huddersfield, thats his perogative and is what worked for him at stokalona, but its just regurgitating something that was reasonably sucessful 10 years ago. Hes teamed that up with a cheerleader to try to give them confidence to regain their previous form.. certainly nothing revolutionary, but a kind of USP. Recent sucess in many major leagues around the world, for clubs outperforming their budgets has come from committing to a moneyball approach, for that you need an expert in moneyball, not someone regurgitating past success. Firstly i would headhunt people out of the finest moneyball exmaples, it would be difficult to get them out of brighton or brentford, but we may stand a chance of recruiting to a director role if they are currently 2nd on the ship. That would give us a lift up onto the shoulders of these clubs and id ask him to shamelessly implement that process as our club. Id hire computer programmers, High IQ candidates with masters in statistics, and trust the moneyball process. Id get the people that dont understand football to determine the KPIs of positions within the team and understand that they will change as each puzzle piece is entered into the team and that when you enter one piece another one may need changing. Id implement the "Huddersfield Way" of playing, probably a 433, High Press, Attacking, fairly direct style. would be my philosophy, but id actually listen to the fans for what they wanted the philosphy to be and implement the finding pragmatically. On to USP, We could use cartwrights approach, its not a dreadful idea, just lacks the 10 year later thought process' and evolution of his idea, combined with offering raw talent, like rudoni a platform to play regular games. Management wise, you would need more than a motivator if your developing players, so i would be looking for a developing manager as well, doubt the guy from tolouse would come to town, or potter, but those kind of appointments a step earlier. Very basic rundown of what my approach would be.
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Post by townrwe on Nov 29, 2023 10:41:32 GMT 1
Heard of Girls Aloud but not Guys Aloud. They’ll be making a comeback sooner than Danny as well… Wardy, Edwards, Rudoni, Sorba and Pearson. Guys Aloud
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Post by townrwe on Nov 29, 2023 10:00:02 GMT 1
It would be interesting to know why you think that is the case... seemed like a pretty average employee in any business, probably fairly reliable, probably does a reasonable job, but not someone that's revolutionary or inspirational or bringing something new to the table. You could replace cartwright with any relatively experienced director of football and you wouldn't even bat an eyelid. Sane for moore, replace him with say rowett and you probably wouldn't see a massive change in results. David wagner was revolutionary, deano recognised that and backed him in a way that he never backed anyone else. Nagel employed people he trusts. He trusts them because he believes they are safe pairs of hands. What we need is revolutionary people, harder to find and more risky. If you were buying an unknown business in a foreign country would you look for a risky revolutionary or a safe pair of hands? I know which way I would start, how that progresses may be different but it’s certainly how sensible business people would start. Personally, no I wouldn't, im a risk taker. I'd have been focused enough not to employ a couple of mates and I'd have either run a recruitment process or more likely headhunted someone whos done something revolutionary, if they did the analysis and came up with Moore I'd have immediately sacked them because that doesn't align with the Premier league in 3 years/doing it differently that Nagle said he wanted and certainly what my vision would be. Unfortunately it's nagles billions funding the show and not potless townrwe, although I still maintain potless Phil was the best chairman, better than Hoyle, just ashame he ran out of luck/cash.
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Post by townrwe on Nov 29, 2023 9:53:18 GMT 1
One question on this video? Why didn't he do it with the and he takes that chance podcast? I'd be interested to know if they were offered the opportunity, as I know they have reached out to get something along these lines? That would have been a much better interview. Or was this one chosen as its his mate and can control the narrative? If they were offered the chance, then my conspiracy theory is blown out the water. Cartwright hasn't done anything yet to date. That's a given. January is his time to prove his worth and back up his talk. But you have taken the dislike to a new level. Earlier you mentioned swinging his 'small cock' about. Who told you he had a small cock? You're wife/partner? Is that why you dislike him so so much? I dont dislike any of them to be fair, they are a quite likeable bunch... but I don't see anything across the board to suggest they are anything more than mildly competent. there is nothing revolutionary.... Edwards appears very good for his role? Not sure on his ability to be revolutionary or infact how wide his remit can be to be so, certainly on the playing side.
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Post by townrwe on Nov 29, 2023 9:43:33 GMT 1
Guys allowed a life outside football... To be fair I'm with him, the first thing I want when I start feeling better is a pint.
He must have been feeling well(ish) to be out the house attending the event anyway.
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Post by townrwe on Nov 29, 2023 9:38:26 GMT 1
One question on this video?
Why didn't he do it with the and he takes that chance podcast?
I'd be interested to know if they were offered the opportunity, as I know they have reached out to get something along these lines? That would have been a much better interview. Or was this one chosen as its his mate and can control the narrative?
If they were offered the chance, then my conspiracy theory is blown out the water.
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Post by townrwe on Nov 29, 2023 9:29:41 GMT 1
We aren't doing what clubs that are out performing there budget are doing. In fact so far we are doing a man utd on less money. We need to be looking at Brentford and Brighton and shamelessly copying what they do. Get a hand up onto their shoulders and then stand up head and shoulders above them by making what they have got better. All I see at the moment, is trying not to lose, safe recruitment and mediocrity. Maybe check how much Brighton have spent on their model. You certainly know what's required, go fund it and crack on. It relative to your budget..how much have man utd spent on their model? Luton? If the budget is set at say 13m then we need to be revolutionary to compete at the top end of a table where budget is a pretty defining factor. Webber went to Germany where value was a defining feature, Brighton buy seriously talented raw players on the way up and offer them minutes they wouldn't get if they joined one of the big boys and then allow them to move on for huge profits when they have the credit in the bank to start for one of the big boys, bit are continuously improving and fine tuning recruitment and reinvesting. What i took from cartwright was recruitment of 10 years ago if you wanted to compete. Buying players that have fallen out of favour and offer them a platform at Huddersfield to reinvigorate themselves. Its pretty standard second teir thinking. Maybe he will come up with 4 players from outer Mongolia with bags of raw potential and suprise us all rather than wiles who's career was stalling, Edwards who's career hasnt really started, Burgzorg who has abolity but we are a playform for him to show it, when hes onviously failed in the past or he wouldnh be here and maxwell who's a safe bet for back-up
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