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Post by queenybantam07 on Apr 11, 2016 15:07:22 GMT 1
Without the cup runs you'd have probably gone bust. Without the half price tickets and freebies for kids, you'd average about 7500-8000. not bad for a club at your level, but nowt to boast about, especially for a one club city the size of bradford. If you want to  your pecker about, it should shrivel up a bit when you consider Huddersfield have had bigger averages than City for about 80% of our respective histories, including half the past 20 years during which you';ve been in top flight and reached a cup final and been letting fans in for half price. This despite Bradford being a vastly bigger place then Huddersfield. Can you tell me why you think we'd average 7,500-8,000, when we have averaged more than that during the worst period in the clubs history (2004-2007)? Then, also in debt. Now, we post profits. If it wasn't for that cup run, we would've probably won the league. |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Apr 11, 2016 15:28:29 GMT 1
we can our attendance figures back at them next year..if they get up and we are both in the bottom bit, it matters not a jot.. even with the bitterest bantam id rather them than millwall.. agreed its not a ringing endorsement of my wish to play them but its the best ive got.. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Apr 11, 2016 15:46:44 GMT 1
Without the cup runs you'd have probably gone bust. Without the half price tickets and freebies for kids, you'd average about 7500-8000. not bad for a club at your level, but nowt to boast about, especially for a one club city the size of bradford. If you want to your pecker about, it should shrivel up a bit when you consider Huddersfield have had bigger averages than City for about 80% of our respective histories, including half the past 20 years during which you';ve been in top flight and reached a cup final and been letting fans in for half price. This despite Bradford being a vastly bigger place then Huddersfield. Can you tell me why you think we'd average 7,500-8,000, when we have averaged more than that during the worst period in the clubs history (2004-2007)? Then, also in debt. Now, we post profits. If it wasn't for that cup run, we would've probably won the league. because you'd have been charging the same huge amounts other clubs charge these days. The glory seeking fans who were still there from the prem seasons would have gone and your fan base would have got truly sick of being stuck in the bottom 2 divisions after a dozen years. You might be getting 13 or 14000 show up now when its so cheap (lets not pretend its the gate figures given out) , but double the cost and add another £100 on top and you'd be getting 7500-8000. Posting profits is great. Most clubs could if they pay low wages, never pay a transfer fee and sell their best players ( and have 2 or 3 lucrative cup runs thrown in). If you do go up this time, you'll have to invest heavily in the team or next season will be a long tortuous one for you. Will your owners finance that ( german or otherwise) or will ST prices have to go up considerably? If the fans still pay then fair enough- its a strategy thats worked, but will a bloke who takes his 2 kids and is used to paying £149 a season to do it, be up for paying over £500 instead? You'd probably have made the play offs without the cup run. 1 in 4 chance from there. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2016 16:51:00 GMT 1
Bradford were getting between 7500 and 8500 last time in lge 1 when charging full prices, so it figures that if they were charging the same now that's what they'd be getting. Town were averaging considerably more during the same period. We even averaged 13500 in the 2005-06 season and even averaged 10500 when we were last in the bottom division. More than what Bradford averaged in the bottom division despite having cheap season tickets and not actually giving the proper attendances.
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Post by queenybantam07 on Apr 11, 2016 17:06:17 GMT 1
Can you tell me why you think we'd average 7,500-8,000, when we have averaged more than that during the worst period in the clubs history (2004-2007)? Then, also in debt. Now, we post profits. If it wasn't for that cup run, we would've probably won the league. because you'd have been charging the same huge amounts other clubs charge these days. The glory seeking fans who were still there from the prem seasons would have gone and your fan base would have got truly sick of being stuck in the bottom 2 divisions after a dozen years. You might be getting 13 or 14000 show up now when its so cheap (lets not pretend its the gate figures given out) , but double the cost and add another £100 on top and you'd be getting 7500-8000. Posting profits is great. Most clubs could if they pay low wages, never pay a transfer fee and sell their best players ( and have 2 or 3 lucrative cup runs thrown in). If you do go up this time, you'll have to invest heavily in the team or next season will be a long tortuous one for you. Will your owners finance that ( german or otherwise) or will ST prices have to go up considerably? If the fans still pay then fair enough- its a strategy thats worked, but will a bloke who takes his 2 kids and is used to paying £149 a season to do it, be up for paying over £500 instead? You'd probably have made the play offs without the cup run. 1 in 4 chance from there. Yet another post with absolutely zero substance. What makes you think there's 13,000 attending now? Do you have proof of this, or is it based on the fact that when you announce attendances at 10k, there's actually 7,000 there (ala Reading)? If anything, our recent games looked to be more than 18k home fans there, but obviously you know better than me. For what it's worth, our attendances are bang on. I'd post pictures but I really can't be bothered. So, what you're actually saying is that because we launched a fantastic and very successfully ticketing incentive, this is the only reason why we have decent crowds? Well, no shit Sherlock - someone get this guy a stick of rock. Of course our crowds increased. We consistently sold over 10,000 season tickets during 6 years of dross in L2. I don't care what you say, not many clubs could achieve that. We've slowly built our fanbase back up again thanks to affordable football (is that really a bad thing, given you're attempting the same scheme next season). I don't really understand your point. You make it out like if we upped season tickets to £400, we'd sell virtually none and average 4,000. In 2006/2007, the year we were relegated from L1, we sold 5,500 at £350-£400 after two relegations/admins in 3 years - and averaged just under 9,000. I don't think that was a bad figure given how wank we were on and off the pitch. A fair comparison is when Hudders were relegated from the same league 2003! You averaged 9,500 in a relatively new ground. What's the difference? The new media deal and FA grant would ensure all championship clubs will receive circa £7m additional turnover next season. We currently turn over circa £6m, and if we were cutting our cloth accordingly, our playing budget wouldn't be too dissimilar to yours this season. With regards to the German takeover, who knows what's gonna happen. One fact that is plainly obviously for everyone to see is, you're looking over your shoulders as a club, and we're very much back on the up. |
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Post by queenybantam07 on Apr 11, 2016 17:08:31 GMT 1
Bradford were getting between 7500 and 8500 last time in lge 1 when charging full prices, so it figures that if they were charging the same now that's what they'd be getting. Town were averaging considerably more during the same period. We even averaged 13500 in the 2005-06 season and even averaged 10500 when we were last in the bottom division. More than what Bradford averaged in the bottom division despite having cheap season tickets and not actually giving the proper attendances. No it doesn't, you absolute retard. How can you compare the club in its current financial state to back then when we were riddled in debt. Nonsensical. |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Apr 11, 2016 17:18:46 GMT 1
Can't we just make calling someone a retard a banning offence and get rid of this klutz ?
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Post by Captainslapper on Apr 11, 2016 17:39:20 GMT 1
because you'd have been charging the same huge amounts other clubs charge these days. The glory seeking fans who were still there from the prem seasons would have gone and your fan base would have got truly sick of being stuck in the bottom 2 divisions after a dozen years. You might be getting 13 or 14000 show up now when its so cheap (lets not pretend its the gate figures given out) , but double the cost and add another £100 on top and you'd be getting 7500-8000. Posting profits is great. Most clubs could if they pay low wages, never pay a transfer fee and sell their best players ( and have 2 or 3 lucrative cup runs thrown in). If you do go up this time, you'll have to invest heavily in the team or next season will be a long tortuous one for you. Will your owners finance that ( german or otherwise) or will ST prices have to go up considerably? If the fans still pay then fair enough- its a strategy thats worked, but will a bloke who takes his 2 kids and is used to paying £149 a season to do it, be up for paying over £500 instead? You'd probably have made the play offs without the cup run. 1 in 4 chance from there. Yet another post with absolutely zero substance. What makes you think there's 13,000 attending now? Do you have proof of this, or is it based on the fact that when you announce attendances at 10k, there's actually 7,000 there (ala Reading)? If anything, our recent games looked to be more than 18k home fans there, but obviously you know better than me. For what it's worth, our attendances are bang on. I'd post pictures but I really can't be bothered. So, what you're actually saying is that because we launched a fantastic and very successfully ticketing incentive, this is the only reason why we have decent crowds? Well, no shit Sherlock - someone get this guy a stick of rock. Of course our crowds increased. We consistently sold over 10,000 season tickets during 6 years of dross in L2. I don't care what you say, not many clubs could achieve that. We've slowly built our fanbase back up again thanks to affordable football (is that really a bad thing, given you're attempting the same scheme next season). I don't really understand your point. You make it out like if we upped season tickets to £400, we'd sell virtually none and average 4,000. In 2006/2007, the year we were relegated from L1, we sold 5,500 at £350-£400 after two relegations/admins in 3 years - and averaged just under 9,000. I don't think that was a bad figure given how wank we were on and off the pitch. A fair comparison is when Hudders were relegated from the same league 2003! You averaged 9,500 in a relatively new ground. What's the difference? The new media deal and FA grant would ensure all championship clubs will receive circa £7m additional turnover next season. We currently turn over circa £6m, and if we were cutting our cloth accordingly, our playing budget wouldn't be too dissimilar to yours this season. With regards to the German takeover, who knows what's gonna happen. One fact that is plainly obviously for everyone to see is, you're looking over your shoulders as a club, and we're very much back on the up. If you think your club give an attendance figure and not a gate figure, then you're an idiot. I know a few chicken fans. I even married into a family of them. They know the crowds given out this season are bullshit. You must be deluded if you think you get what they say in the papers. All clubs of a comparable size would sell 10,000 season tickets if it was £149 for adults and free for kids. Bigger crowds for 80% of our respective histories luv including half of the last 20 years when you've been having your 'glory' years and dirt cheap prices-- so give it a rest swinging your dick. Nobody on here's impressed with it. |
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Post by ben1987 on Apr 11, 2016 17:50:42 GMT 1
oh yes. Speaking of which if you go up, I've noticed your training facilities need updating, have you stopped training on the school playing fields yet?  Our training facilities are second to none, I'll have you know. The training facilities that are currently being replaced after being left with over a foot of sludge on them due to the Boxing Day floods? Your lot train at a private school at apperley bridge. They're about right for posh kids to kick about on at break time but they arent to the standard of professional football by any stretch. |
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Apr 11, 2016 18:03:15 GMT 1
It really amazes me that some Bradford fans are stupid enough to try and come on here and argue that they are a bigger club, when anyone with a modicum of football knowledge can see that they are an inferior club in every conceivable aspect.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2016 18:07:59 GMT 1
Bradford were getting between 7500 and 8500 last time in lge 1 when charging full prices, so it figures that if they were charging the same now that's what they'd be getting. Town were averaging considerably more during the same period. We even averaged 13500 in the 2005-06 season and even averaged 10500 when we were last in the bottom division. More than what Bradford averaged in the bottom division despite having cheap season tickets and not actually giving the proper attendances. No it doesn't, you absolute retard. How can you compare the club in its current financial state to back then when we were riddled in debt. Nonsensical. Why such aggression just because you know we are correct. Dont worry about it love. You believe what you want. Ignore facts. |
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Apr 11, 2016 18:16:32 GMT 1
Queensbury is nice though. Thorntons nicer. It was until you moved there ya prick |
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Post by terrierpark on Apr 11, 2016 18:48:34 GMT 1
Piss off sadford you are and always will be a third rate side at best.
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Post by bluebeard on Apr 11, 2016 18:49:55 GMT 1
The Chickens really do think their a big club!! mind you didn't they win the West Riding Cup once. They forget they they have spent most of their existence in the old division 3 and 4.
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Post by The King's Head 1230 on Apr 11, 2016 18:56:21 GMT 1
I've changed my mind fucking scruffy bastards.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2016 20:13:12 GMT 1
I've changed my mind fucking scruffy bastards. Same here.. |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Apr 11, 2016 21:12:44 GMT 1
Piss off sadford you are and always will be a third rate side at best. Spot on parkie |
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Post by Bilo the Bantam on Apr 11, 2016 22:05:27 GMT 1
Cheap tickets or not, we'd get more than 12k for a Yorkshire derby against Hull in the Championship...
I don't think we're a big club (maybe for L1) but I'd guess most neutral fans would consider Bradford City to be a bigger club than Huddersfield Town.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Apr 11, 2016 22:13:17 GMT 1
Cheap tickets or not, we'd get more than 12k for a Yorkshire derby against Hull in the Championship... I don't think we're a big club (maybe for L1) but I'd guess most neutral fans would consider Bradford City to be a bigger club than Huddersfield Town. Are you on coke Bilo? For what its worth I hope you get promoted, this division needs more big games. |
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Post by shawsie on Apr 11, 2016 22:13:45 GMT 1
Cheap tickets or not, we'd get more than 12k for a Yorkshire derby against Hull in the Championship... I don't think we're a big club (maybe for L1) but I'd guess most neutral fans would consider Bradford City to be a bigger club than Huddersfield Town. Based on what?! Infinite years in a lower division, year after year of lower crowds going back 50 years or more?! Granted you did brilliantly with two decent cup runs and made the premier league for 2 seasons - neither of which we have...........but come on what else gives you that thought? for a long time you weren't even the biggest club in your own city! |
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Post by deo1 on Apr 11, 2016 22:15:38 GMT 1
Cheap tickets or not, we'd get more than 12k for a Yorkshire derby against Hull in the Championship... I don't think we're a big club (maybe for L1) but I'd guess most neutral fans would consider Bradford City to be a bigger club than Huddersfield Town. Talking rubbish again!!!!!!!! |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2016 22:18:21 GMT 1
Cheap tickets or not, we'd get more than 12k for a Yorkshire derby against Hull in the Championship... I don't think we're a big club (maybe for L1) but I'd guess most neutral fans would consider Bradford City to be a bigger club than Huddersfield Town. Rubbish. You lot talk shit. 12k is poor, but so is charging over £30. Luckily the one thing you lot have done better than us is pricing, but that's all sorted for next season. Why would any sane person think Bradford who have spent most of their history in the bottom 2 divisions, are currently in the bottom 2 divisions and have spent 80% of their history getting smaller attendances than Town are a bigger club. Give it a rest, you're a lower league club who might have a rare season in the championship next season, then again, probably not as 4 teams are in the playoffs. |
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Post by ColchTerrier on Apr 11, 2016 22:22:45 GMT 1
Who could have predicted that this would turn in to a cock waving competition? Its a local sport in Bradford. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Apr 12, 2016 0:21:32 GMT 1
Cheap tickets or not, we'd get more than 12k for a Yorkshire derby against Hull in the Championship... I don't think we're a big club (maybe for L1) but I'd guess most neutral fans would consider Bradford City to be a bigger club than Huddersfield Town. LOL Its good to dream bilo! |
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Post by detox on Apr 12, 2016 9:09:42 GMT 1
I'd rate Bradford in the same category as Scunthorpe, Grimsby, Lincoln and the like...the next level up is Rotherham and barnsley etc..and eventually you get to the likes of Huddersfield and Forest etc... I don't mind Bradford or Park Avenue..or even Halifax..it's just that they don't appear on my horizon very much...
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Post by gledholt terrier on Apr 12, 2016 9:23:08 GMT 1
I'd rate Bradford in the same category as Scunthorpe, Grimsby, Lincoln and the like...the next level up is Rotherham and barnsley etc..and eventually you get to the likes of Huddersfield and Forest etc... I don't mind Bradford or Park Avenue..or even Halifax..it's just that they don't appear on my horizon very much... That would be twice European champions you are grouping us with??!! |
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Post by alvimaka on Apr 12, 2016 18:18:57 GMT 1
interesting reading all the posts but there,s no point in talking to the chickens, who come on here trying to start some sort of rivalry when we have not had a league game against Sadford for 10 years no one gives a flying jot about them you can not educate pork UTT TTID
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Post by alvimaka on Apr 13, 2016 1:53:13 GMT 1
who started this thread anyway ?
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Post by royrace on Apr 13, 2016 15:10:26 GMT 1
because you'd have been charging the same huge amounts other clubs charge these days. The glory seeking fans who were still there from the prem seasons would have gone and your fan base would have got truly sick of being stuck in the bottom 2 divisions after a dozen years. You might be getting 13 or 14000 show up now when its so cheap (lets not pretend its the gate figures given out) , but double the cost and add another £100 on top and you'd be getting 7500-8000. Posting profits is great. Most clubs could if they pay low wages, never pay a transfer fee and sell their best players ( and have 2 or 3 lucrative cup runs thrown in). If you do go up this time, you'll have to invest heavily in the team or next season will be a long tortuous one for you. Will your owners finance that ( german or otherwise) or will ST prices have to go up considerably? If the fans still pay then fair enough- its a strategy thats worked, but will a bloke who takes his 2 kids and is used to paying £149 a season to do it, be up for paying over £500 instead? You'd probably have made the play offs without the cup run. 1 in 4 chance from there. Yet another post with absolutely zero substance. What makes you think there's 13,000 attending now? Do you have proof of this, or is it based on the fact that when you announce attendances at 10k, there's actually 7,000 there (ala Reading)? If anything, our recent games looked to be more than 18k home fans there, but obviously you know better than me. For what it's worth, our attendances are bang on. I'd post pictures but I really can't be bothered. So, what you're actually saying is that because we launched a fantastic and very successfully ticketing incentive, this is the only reason why we have decent crowds? Well, no shit Sherlock - someone get this guy a stick of rock. Of course our crowds increased. We consistently sold over 10,000 season tickets during 6 years of dross in L2. I don't care what you say, not many clubs could achieve that. We've slowly built our fanbase back up again thanks to affordable football (is that really a bad thing, given you're attempting the same scheme next season). I don't really understand your point. You make it out like if we upped season tickets to £400, we'd sell virtually none and average 4,000. In 2006/2007, the year we were relegated from L1, we sold 5,500 at £350-£400 after two relegations/admins in 3 years - and averaged just under 9,000. I don't think that was a bad figure given how wank we were on and off the pitch. A fair comparison is when Hudders were relegated from the same league 2003! You averaged 9,500 in a relatively new ground. What's the difference? The new media deal and FA grant would ensure all championship clubs will receive circa £7m additional turnover next season. We currently turn over circa £6m, and if we were cutting our cloth accordingly, our playing budget wouldn't be too dissimilar to yours this season. With regards to the German takeover, who knows what's gonna happen. One fact that is plainly obviously for everyone to see is, you're looking over your shoulders as a club, and we're very much back on the up. ROFL, seriously, we're not, trust me. You seem to be doing OK as a bang average L1 side so we're pleased for you, I even supported you in your cup run but I've certainly never considered that you are 'back on the up' whatever that may mean  You're like a Bury, a Chesterfield or a Rochdale, its nice to see you in the top half of L1 now and again punching above your weight but we all know the chances of promotion are virtually non existent. Then again if Yeovil can do it you never know. Good luck to ya. |
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your pecker about, it should shrivel up a bit when you consider Huddersfield have had bigger averages than City for about 80% of our respective histories, including half the past 20 years during which you';ve been in top flight and reached a cup final and been letting fans in for half price. This despite Bradford being a vastly bigger place then Huddersfield.
You're like a Bury, a Chesterfield or a Rochdale, its nice to see you in the top half of L1 now and again punching above your weight but we all know the chances of promotion are virtually non existent. Then again if Yeovil can do it you never know. Good luck to ya.