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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2016 17:30:34 GMT 1
These two between them are paid more than our entire starting 11 combined. That's what we're up against
There wasn't much between the two sides but that little extra touch of class that big money gets you was evident at times, particularly with the winning goal
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Post by ringdisco on Apr 2, 2016 17:32:33 GMT 1
Don't care about that angle myself. All I care about is that we have one striker, and one horrible, ever present centreback.
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Post by covterrier on Apr 2, 2016 21:14:15 GMT 1
All that money spent and they'll still be playing us next season
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Post by garyroberts'leftfoot on Apr 2, 2016 21:44:22 GMT 1
McGeady was awful. Worst player on the pitch.
He lost the ball pretty much every time it was given to him and made literally no impact. Stealing a living.
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Post by OperationPig on Apr 2, 2016 22:12:18 GMT 1
McGeady was awful. Worst player on the pitch. He lost the ball pretty much every time it was given to him and made literally no impact. Stealing a living. Another bitter post lol |
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Post by OperationPig on Apr 2, 2016 22:12:53 GMT 1
McGeady was awful. Worst player on the pitch. He lost the ball pretty much every time it was given to him and made literally no impact. Stealing a living. Wot money? go on tell us? |
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Post by garyroberts'leftfoot on Apr 2, 2016 22:18:49 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2016 22:19:36 GMT 1
Neither of these stood out for me. Forestieri finished heir one chance well but he was nothing like as effective as he was against Watford a few years ago.
Wendies are 5th in a pretty average league this year...& they've spent a fortune.
We'll be up there next year. We only started playing half way they the season.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2016 22:20:19 GMT 1
Wow. Lolley is miles better. |
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Post by garyroberts'leftfoot on Apr 2, 2016 22:23:23 GMT 1
Wow. Lolley is miles better. Hooper is on £32,000 a week. Wednesday won't be paying all of their wages but 82,000 a week must be over half our wage bill. |
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Post by OperationPig on Apr 2, 2016 22:23:51 GMT 1
Wow. Lolley is miles better. So you really think we're playing that much then? lol |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2016 22:23:59 GMT 1
McGeady was awful. Worst player on the pitch. He lost the ball pretty much every time it was given to him and made literally no impact. Stealing a living. Another bitter post lol Really because talking to two of your fans they pretty much agreed. Joao changed the game. PS you still owe a poster on here £50 from a bet you had. Just saying like. |
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Post by y2troy on Apr 2, 2016 22:33:58 GMT 1
When McGeady was at Celtic they thought he was the next big thing , but been honest anybody could be a world beater at Celtic , getting a player in a decent legaue at the weekly wage on should be making a massive contribution ....BUT end of day its only 11 VS 11
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2016 22:35:34 GMT 1
Wow. Lolley is miles better. So you really think we're playing that much then? lol No idea and not interested but I know who I'd rather have signed on at my club. Mcgeady had his moments at Celtic bu this best days are behind him while joe Lolley is going to be a special player. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2016 22:44:29 GMT 1
Wednesday fans seem to think wages don't class as spending big, only transfer fees count.
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Post by swfchamish on Apr 3, 2016 0:26:59 GMT 1
Wednesday fans seem to think wages don't class as spending big, only transfer fees count. What does it matter what the fans think? People are committing more money on tickets than ever and expect to be seeing good players, the likes of which are on big wages. We know what we've spent which is why expectations are so high. For many, especially those under 25, we know where we've come from and how little money the clubs had for 15 years now. Absolute peanuts. So, as much as other teams may not like it we're entitled to get a bit giddy. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2016 0:59:12 GMT 1
Wednesday fans seem to think wages don't class as spending big, only transfer fees count. What does it matter what the fans think? People are committing more money on tickets than ever and expect to be seeing good players, the likes of which are on big wages. We know what we've spent which is why expectations are so high. For many, especially those under 25, we know where we've come from and how little money the clubs had for 15 years now. Absolute peanuts. So, as much as other teams may not like it we're entitled to get a bit giddy. I don't think anyone's got a problem with that at all. Wednesday fans have turned up in big numbers year on year off for the last decade +. Poor ownership/management etc etc has held you back. I for one don't begrudge you lot anything but some of your fans have had/can have the tendency to put forward a sense of entitlement culture,& no one likes that. |
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Post by upthetown on Apr 3, 2016 2:51:22 GMT 1
What does it matter what the fans think? People are committing more money on tickets than ever and expect to be seeing good players, the likes of which are on big wages. We know what we've spent which is why expectations are so high. For many, especially those under 25, we know where we've come from and how little money the clubs had for 15 years now. Absolute peanuts. So, as much as other teams may not like it we're entitled to get a bit giddy. I don't think anyone's got a problem with that at all. Wednesday fans have turned up in big numbers year on year off for the last decade +. Poor ownership/management etc etc has held you back. I for one don't begrudge you lot anything but some of your fans have had/can have the tendency to put forward a sense of entitlement culture,& no one likes that. Can't argue with their coaches though. |
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Post by Headless Chicken on Apr 3, 2016 8:51:36 GMT 1
Neither of these stood out for me. Forestieri finished heir one chance well but he was nothing like as effective as he was against Watford a few years ago. Wendies are 5th in a pretty average league this year...& they've spent a fortune. We'll be up there next year. We only started playing half way they the season. That was more because he was outstanding for Watford that first game; not far off the best I've seen. Not as good going forward today, but still decent and actually puts in a right graft. Also not sure why you are intimating the league isn't particularly strong. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2016 10:58:49 GMT 1
Neither of these stood out for me. Forestieri finished heir one chance well but he was nothing like as effective as he was against Watford a few years ago. Wendies are 5th in a pretty average league this year...& they've spent a fortune. We'll be up there next year. We only started playing half way they the season. That was more because he was outstanding for Watford that first game; not far off the best I've seen. Not as good going forward today, but still decent and actually puts in a right graft. Also not sure why you are intimating the league isn't particularly strong. I think its a strong league. Derby might not even make the playoffs and they've spent a fortune. Fulham looked a very good side to me at our place and they're 4th bottom! |
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Post by Headless Chicken on Apr 3, 2016 11:03:47 GMT 1
That was more because he was outstanding for Watford that first game; not far off the best I've seen. Not as good going forward today, but still decent and actually puts in a right graft. Also not sure why you are intimating the league isn't particularly strong. I think its a strong league. Derby might not even make the playoffs and they've spent a fortune. Fulham looked a very good side to me at our place and they're 4th bottom! Stop agreeing  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2016 11:16:22 GMT 1
Bournemouth, Watford, Norwich all now could stay up, the former two comfortably. There's no side of their respective quality or squad depth in championship this year.
The league fluctuates from season to season & this year it's not as strong as last year.
Derby have been very up & down this year with different managers and a very expensive squad that hasn't really played as one.
Wednesday are a solid outfit who've thrown money at a goalscorer to lift them out of upper mid table.
Brighton nearly lost their status last year but with a good organised manager and couple of key signings they're now promotion candidates.
Boro have been poor for a while but still second.
It's just not as difficult this year & next year it will be possible for Town to mount a challenge of our own. Villa will not be a force for one. As we all know we need 3 or 4 players down our spine & luck with injuries. Every year since we've been up though we're in a major managerial change and rebuild. Next year we'll have 38 games to go at with one approach and squad like other teams.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2016 11:41:56 GMT 1
I think its a strong league. Derby might not even make the playoffs and they've spent a fortune. Fulham looked a very good side to me at our place and they're 4th bottom! Stop agreeing |
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Post by morleyterrier on Apr 3, 2016 11:46:49 GMT 1
At least these two came to play football and try and beat us that way.
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Post by walkdenterrier on Apr 3, 2016 13:15:50 GMT 1
[quote I for one don't begrudge you lot anything but some of your fans have had/can have the tendency to put forward a sense of entitlement culture,& no one likes that.
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Exactly right. I has a conversation with a Wednesday Fan at the start of the season and he was giving big club syndrome and should be entitled to be in the Greedy League. His argument was based on number of fans. When I argued that if you base the entitlement argument on a Clubs History (1st or 2nd in the League), then Town were more entitled to be in the Greedy League because we won the league 3 times in a row plus runners up 3 times, Forest were more entitled because they had won the European Cup + 1 title & 2 runners up), Wolves (won 3 titles, 5 runners up), Scum (won 3 titles, 5 runners up), Preston (2 titles, 6 runners up).
He actually admitted my argument was a sounder argument than just number of fans.
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Post by hypotenuse on Apr 3, 2016 14:27:43 GMT 1
Interesting debate on strength of division this year. I feel it is similar to last year in many respects but that there are definitely no teams as strong as Watford and Bournemouth were last year
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Post by swfchamish on Apr 3, 2016 18:52:44 GMT 1
Interesting debate on strength of division this year. I feel it is similar to last year in many respects but that there are definitely no teams as strong as Watford and Bournemouth were last year Certainly the style of play is different. This season the top teams are much more defensive. If you do a comparison all of last seasons 6 had scored in excess of this seasons top 6 at this same stage. Bournemouth and Watford were up to the 80 goals mark. The defences of Middlesbrough, Hull the rest of the top 6 and Preston (amongst one or two more) are far better than the defences of the teams that were promoted last season. But... it seems that to survive in the Prem this season you should be playing decent positive football rather than trying to keep in games and be solid. Next season could perhaps be the most interesting when you've got 'huge' clubs coming down with players on bigger contracts than this leagues ever seen. Mix that with potentially the likes of Burton Albion, Gillingham, Walsall etc and it could be the biggest, 'inequality' the leagues ever seen. However, what impresses me most about this division is that no matter how big the inequality is, usually anyone can beat anyone. It is such a demanding and relentless fixture list. |
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Post by hypotenuse on Apr 3, 2016 20:37:20 GMT 1
You speak a lot of sense.
My view is that you need more than a sound defence in the champ to do well in the prem - for that reason I fear that the three who go up this time will find it a real struggle next year
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Apr 3, 2016 21:06:14 GMT 1
That was more because he was outstanding for Watford that first game; not far off the best I've seen. Not as good going forward today, but still decent and actually puts in a right graft. Also not sure why you are intimating the league isn't particularly strong. I think its a strong league. Derby might not even make the playoffs and they've spent a fortune. Fulham looked a very good side to me at our place and they're 4th bottom! Top six are decent - any team below that are much of a muchness. |
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Post by Headless Chicken on Apr 3, 2016 21:10:04 GMT 1
I think its a strong league. Derby might not even make the playoffs and they've spent a fortune. Fulham looked a very good side to me at our place and they're 4th bottom! Top six are decent - any team below that are much of a muchness. Wouldn't disagree with that. |
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