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Post by BottomLip on Nov 15, 2016 18:11:23 GMT 1
Viduka was a one in a generation striker by Oz standards. We've been looking for the next one for years.
I doubt anyone really believes the A-League better than the Championship. There might have been a few late night post-sherbet posts...
a league is not as good as championship standard but there are players who could step up as Mooy has done. the a league does not have the depth
Yes there are players in all sorts of leagues that are not even of League 1 standard that could do a good job in the Championship. Some go to these countries to relocate in life, on the off chance there are players from that country i.e Australia who could play over here. But normally if theyre seemingly good enough, then theyre snapped up early on. Some however do go under the radar. Mooy didnt go under the radar, he was snapped up, but at that time wasnt good enough, now hes more mature and developed a better footballing brain, hes bloomed which is quite rare as most when denied an oppourtunity seem to go backwards, hes done the total opposite of that.
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Post by hthtafs on Nov 15, 2016 18:47:53 GMT 1
Or if Man City sell him to someone else, which they are perfectly entitled to do. Incorrect, even if they sell him in January he remains a Town player until the end of the season. But if they sell him to a championship rival effectively his loan would effectively become untenable. All conjecture.... Doubtless we will see where he ends up in January.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2016 19:02:18 GMT 1
Incorrect, even if they sell him in January he remains a Town player until the end of the season. But if they sell him to a championship rival effectively his loan would effectively become untenable. All conjecture.... Doubtless we will see where he ends up in January. To sell him they would have to recall him from a season long loan. That would mean Mooy can't play again for anyone else the rest of this season. That isn't conjecture. It's not going to happen.
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Post by bobtheslob on Nov 16, 2016 2:32:24 GMT 1
Mooy was very lacklustre last night. His worst ever performance for the Socceroos. He was spraying passes all over the place, exerted no effort off the ball and generally seemed uninterested. Most unlike him – maybe he’s only got room in his heart for Huddersfield these days.
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Post by mozzie on Nov 16, 2016 6:26:58 GMT 1
The whole team wasn't great, with most of the squad based in Europe they seemed to be struggling in the conditions, pitch wasn't in great shape either.
Mooy was by no means the worst on the pitch, must be frustrating playing through balls though, when the guy you're playing them to,(mostly Robbie Kruse) is constantly getting caught offside. He did play a couple of lovely scoop balls over the top but the Thais to their credit were really up for it and scrambled really well.
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Nov 16, 2016 6:31:28 GMT 1
The whole team wasn't great, with most of the squad based in Europe they seemed to be struggling in the conditions, pitch wasn't in great shape either. Mooy was by no means the worst on the pitch, must be frustrating playing through balls though, when the guy you're playing them to,(mostly Robbie Kruse) is constantly getting caught offside. He did play a couple of lovely scoop balls over the top but the Thais to their credit were really up for it and scrambled really well. Edit. Just had a look at the table, pretty tight but 5 games to go. Think you'll qualify? Is it just the top two teams that go through?
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Post by mozzie on Nov 16, 2016 6:43:33 GMT 1
The whole team wasn't great, with most of the squad based in Europe they seemed to be struggling in the conditions, pitch wasn't in great shape either. Mooy was by no means the worst on the pitch, must be frustrating playing through balls though, when the guy you're playing them to,(mostly Robbie Kruse) is constantly getting caught offside. He did play a couple of lovely scoop balls over the top but the Thais to their credit were really up for it and scrambled really well. Edit. Just had a look at the table, pretty tight but 5 games to go. Think you'll qualify? Is it just the top two teams that go through? The top two qualify, Australia has three of the remaining four matches at home so they still can qualify, although I don't think we really deserve to, but I'd rather us than bloody Saudi Arabia. Not 100% sure but it seems the third placed teams in the Asian group are involved in some sort of playoff.
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Post by bobtheslob on Nov 16, 2016 7:56:18 GMT 1
Edit. Just had a look at the table, pretty tight but 5 games to go. Think you'll qualify? Is it just the top two teams that go through? The top two qualify, Australia has three of the remaining four matches at home so they still can qualify, although I don't think we really deserve to, but I'd rather us than bloody Saudi Arabia. Not 100% sure but it seems the third placed teams in the Asian group are involved in some sort of playoff. The third placed teams from each Asian qualifying group play one other, with the victor proceeding to a playoff against the fourth placed CONCACAF team. The winner of that qualifies. I still think we’ll make the World Cup. Like mozzie said, we’ve got mostly home matches coming up and our group is full of Middle Eastern teams who tend to travel poorly. Our toughest matches in this qualifying stage are against Japan (home and away), Saudi Arabia (away), and UAE (away). We’ve already played three of those four, so hopefully it should be an easy run home. We’ll need to improve significantly to be competitive in Russia though.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2016 9:52:26 GMT 1
The top two qualify, Australia has three of the remaining four matches at home so they still can qualify, although I don't think we really deserve to, but I'd rather us than bloody Saudi Arabia. Not 100% sure but it seems the third placed teams in the Asian group are involved in some sort of playoff. The third placed teams from each Asian qualifying group play one other, with the victor proceeding to a playoff against the fourth placed CONCACAF team. The winner of that qualifies. I still think we’ll make the World Cup. Like mozzie said, we’ve got mostly home matches coming up and our group is full of Middle Eastern teams who tend to travel poorly. Our toughest matches in this qualifying stage are against Japan (home and away), Saudi Arabia (away), and UAE (away). We’ve already played three of those four, so hopefully it should be an easy run home. We’ll need to improve significantly to be competitive in Russia though. So will England.
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Post by bobtheslob on Nov 17, 2016 12:12:41 GMT 1
Ha, I think your aspirations are (rightfully) a little higher than ours. We'll be happy just to not be disgraced in the group stages, whereas y'all should be at least a faint chance of winning it.
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Post by detox on Nov 17, 2016 18:58:24 GMT 1
what was wagner complaining about Mooy playing - can't read the article cos I have ad blocker on.?
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Post by workshyfop on Nov 28, 2016 23:42:42 GMT 1
I still don't get it. He's not terrible, but anyone thinking he could play in the Premier League is plainly mental. To borrow the Guardian summary of Jordan Rhodes, he's slower than coastal erosion.
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Post by BottomLip on Nov 29, 2016 5:56:22 GMT 1
I still don't get it. He's not terrible, but anyone thinking he could play in the Premier League is plainly mental. To borrow the Guardian summary of Jordan Rhodes, he's slower than coastal erosion. Yeah that Pirlo bloke was fast wasn't he... dictate a game at your own pace, if you're good. Speed accounts to fuck all or Scanz would be at Barca
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Post by workshyfop on Nov 29, 2016 7:42:38 GMT 1
I still don't get it. He's not terrible, but anyone thinking he could play in the Premier League is plainly mental. To borrow the Guardian summary of Jordan Rhodes, he's slower than coastal erosion. Yeah that Pirlo bloke was fast wasn't he... dictate a game at your own pace, if you're good. Speed accounts to fuck all or Scanz would be at Barca He's a good footballer, neat and tidy on the ball. I just don't see that he would be able to step up another level. Mainly due to his lack of pace. He's not quite dictating games and he's certainly no Pirlo. Now that fella could take a decent set piece too, another thing we've struggled with this season.
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Post by impact on Nov 29, 2016 9:19:21 GMT 1
I still don't get it. He's not terrible, but anyone thinking he could play in the Premier League is plainly mental. To borrow the Guardian summary of Jordan Rhodes, he's slower than coastal erosion. So because he's slow he can't play in the premier league? That's the mental part. Next game, watch Mooy. Just focus on him. Look at the amount of times he finds a pass to relieve all the pressure. Look at the times he spots a pass no one else in our squad would. Look at the through balls he plays often at right angles to his direction of movement. Look to the tackles and tracking back he does. Look at the space he finds when it looks like he's been completely shut down. He is Premier League ready already.
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Post by workshyfop on Nov 29, 2016 9:45:58 GMT 1
I still don't get it. He's not terrible, but anyone thinking he could play in the Premier League is plainly mental. To borrow the Guardian summary of Jordan Rhodes, he's slower than coastal erosion. So because he's slow he can't play in the premier league? That's the mental part. Next game, watch Mooy. Just focus on him. Look at the amount of times he finds a pass to relieve all the pressure. Look at the times he spots a pass no one else in our squad would. Look at the through balls he plays often at right angles to his direction of movement. Look to the tackles and tracking back he does. Look at the space he finds when it looks like he's been completely shut down. He is Premier League ready already. Fair enough. Not saying he hasn't got ability, but I'm yet to be convinced he's world class, Premier League standard or worth £10m (all of which have been claimed on various threads). To me, he's decent at Town's level. I regard him like Clayton or Butterfield - good, but more likely to move to a bigger Championship club (of course, Clayton now is a Premier League player and not blisteringly quick). Time will tell (and I'm amazed I could type that last night as I'd had a few).
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Nov 29, 2016 10:22:16 GMT 1
So because he's slow he can't play in the premier league? That's the mental part. Next game, watch Mooy. Just focus on him. Look at the amount of times he finds a pass to relieve all the pressure. Look at the times he spots a pass no one else in our squad would. Look at the through balls he plays often at right angles to his direction of movement. Look to the tackles and tracking back he does. Look at the space he finds when it looks like he's been completely shut down. He is Premier League ready already. Fair enough. Not saying he hasn't got ability, but I'm yet to be convinced he's world class, Premier League standard or worth £10m (all of which have been claimed on various threads). To me, he's decent at Town's level. I regard him like Clayton or Butterfield - good, but more likely to move to a bigger Championship club (of course, Clayton now is a Premier League player and not blisteringly quick). Time will tell (and I'm amazed I could type that last night as I'd had a few). Our movement off the ball is often piss poor. Mooy can thread eye of a needle passes on a complete other level to Butterfield and Clayton, there's just no one giving him the opportunity. He'd look a lot better around better players.
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Post by melbournelad on Dec 2, 2016 0:07:50 GMT 1
1 DEC 2016 - 8:09PM Huddersfield wanted Mooy before City signed him Aaron Mooy was being tracked by Huddersfield Town before he joined Manchester City, with Terriers coach David Wagner insisting the club's signing-of-the-season has the attitude and ability to go on and play in the Premier League. By EXCLUSIVE: David Lewis 1 DEC 2016 - 8:09 PM UPDATED YESTERDAY 8:09 PM
The German is concerned, though, that unless managed properly by club and country the midfielder’s effectiveness could be blunted as international commitments and the demands of the English Championship take their toll.
Speaking exclusively to The World Game, Wagner – the one-time assistant and close confidant of Liverpool coach Jurgen Klopp at Borussia Dortmund - waxed lyrical over Mooy’s impact since arriving on a season-long loan, seven months after the club's football operations chief Stuart Webber dangled his name under Wagner’s nose.
“The first advice (about Aaron) came and we discussed the name and watched some clips," revealed Wagner, for whom the coincidence of Manchester City subsequently recruiting him from sister club Melbourne City and then loaning to him Huddersfield is not lost.
"He had some skills which were interesting to us ... we weren’t sure if he was a number ten or a number eight. And then, to be honest, you always think it's Australia and how will the level be there?
“There are always some doubts, but on the other side everything I saw from him was so strong that I thought this is something I would like to try.
“I think it's a credit to our club that Manchester City have chosen us to develop one of their talented players. So far I am very happy with Aaron and what he's delivered.
"His busy traveling period with the national team is over, and he can stay now stay here for the next four months without journeys back to Australia.
“When you sign a new player, it's always exciting and on the other side sometimes surprising. What he did so far for us is excellent.”
Quizzed over the 26 year old's ability to parlay his eye-catching form for Huddersfield - who have slipped from first to sixth in the Championship in recent weeks, Wagner was unequivocal.
"Yes, there is no doubt of the quality and potential and the serious attitude he has to be a Premier League player," he said.
"Hopefully, if he stays healthy, we will see him in the Premier League sooner than later, I am totally sure.
“Manchester City watches every game of Aaron, most of them live, and somebody from the club is nearly always in the stadium.
"They're in contact with him weekly and with us as well. They know everything about Aaron... how he's improved and how he's played."
Wagner has been engaged in what is more a tug-of-love than a tug-of-war with Socceroos coach Ange Postecoglou over how best to nurture Mooy and protect him from burn-out.
He was unsuccessful in trying to persuade Postecoglou to rest Mooy from the first few days of Australia's recent training camp before the World Cup qualifier against Thailand.
"The national team commitments have caused him some physical problems over the last four months," he said of Mooy, who has already played 24 competitive matches this season.
"So many times he has travelled, so many time changes and so many games he has played," he said.
Manchester City keeping close tabs on Mooy Aaron Mooy has confirmed he's being closely monitored by Manchester City throughout his loan stint at Huddersfield Town, renewing hopes the Socceroos midfielder could yet play for the English Premier League giants. "I tried to make sure we only bring him on the grass when he is a fresh as he can be.
"So he has played some games not from the beginning and we gave him some days off when the rest of the squad was training "This is why I spoke with the national manager of Australia as well because it's not only us who has to pay for this.
"It’s why we can together manage Aaron, so he keeps healthy, this is the biggest thing.
"Both mangers like to have him and now we have this busy international period behind us we look forward to keeping him as fresh as we can because we need him at the highest level.
"I totally and accept that he (Postecoglou) said (when) I asked him to give Aaron some days off before the Thailand match.
"I understand he likes to have all his players together as soon as he can. I was able to give him advice from my point of view on what Aaron needs and he has to make the decision and his decision was to call him in very early.
"He said he likes to give him a separate program and of course he knows how he was used over the last four months."
"The manager did a good job so far for Australia and now we have to make sure Aaron helps us to get some points on the table."
Softly spoken and self-effacing, Mooy prefers to do his talking on the field, with Wagner observing: "When I first met him we went to dinner together ... he is a very quiet person and he is still quiet.
"But he's totally relaxed, which is important when you play at the highest level. He is very football intelligent and knows when to accelerate and when to decelerate the game and he makes so many details right and he has a very big influence on our game.
"We had conversations with Aaron about being a number 10 or a number eight and I was totally open about both positions but now I am totally sure he isn't a number 10, he's a number eight .
“Our identity and style suits a player like him who is so comfortable on the ball.”
Fully aware of the insecurities and unpredictability of a coach's life, Wagner was reluctant to talk about the future of Mooy at Huddersfield beyond this season.
"We have been a surprise package so far this season but this doesn't change our passion to still successful.
"We are still greedy to get some points but where we will be at the end of the season nobody knows.
"We have to make sure we perform and for this we need a strong Aaron Mooy, for sure."
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Post by dumbo on Dec 2, 2016 0:20:03 GMT 1
1 DEC 2016 - 8:09PM Huddersfield wanted Mooy before City signed him Aaron Mooy was being tracked by Huddersfield Town before he joined Manchester City, with Terriers coach David Wagner insisting the club's signing-of-the-season has the attitude and ability to go on and play in the Premier League. By EXCLUSIVE: David Lewis 1 DEC 2016 - 8:09 PM UPDATED YESTERDAY 8:09 PM The German is concerned, though, that unless managed properly by club and country the midfielder’s effectiveness could be blunted as international commitments and the demands of the English Championship take their toll. Speaking exclusively to The World Game, Wagner – the one-time assistant and close confidant of Liverpool coach Jurgen Klopp at Borussia Dortmund - waxed lyrical over Mooy’s impact since arriving on a season-long loan, seven months after the club's football operations chief Stuart Webber dangled his name under Wagner’s nose. “The first advice (about Aaron) came and we discussed the name and watched some clips," revealed Wagner, for whom the coincidence of Manchester City subsequently recruiting him from sister club Melbourne City and then loaning to him Huddersfield is not lost. "He had some skills which were interesting to us ... we weren’t sure if he was a number ten or a number eight. And then, to be honest, you always think it's Australia and how will the level be there? “There are always some doubts, but on the other side everything I saw from him was so strong that I thought this is something I would like to try. “I think it's a credit to our club that Manchester City have chosen us to develop one of their talented players. So far I am very happy with Aaron and what he's delivered. "His busy traveling period with the national team is over, and he can stay now stay here for the next four months without journeys back to Australia. “When you sign a new player, it's always exciting and on the other side sometimes surprising. What he did so far for us is excellent.” Quizzed over the 26 year old's ability to parlay his eye-catching form for Huddersfield - who have slipped from first to sixth in the Championship in recent weeks, Wagner was unequivocal. "Yes, there is no doubt of the quality and potential and the serious attitude he has to be a Premier League player," he said. "Hopefully, if he stays healthy, we will see him in the Premier League sooner than later, I am totally sure. “Manchester City watches every game of Aaron, most of them live, and somebody from the club is nearly always in the stadium. "They're in contact with him weekly and with us as well. They know everything about Aaron... how he's improved and how he's played." Wagner has been engaged in what is more a tug-of-love than a tug-of-war with Socceroos coach Ange Postecoglou over how best to nurture Mooy and protect him from burn-out. He was unsuccessful in trying to persuade Postecoglou to rest Mooy from the first few days of Australia's recent training camp before the World Cup qualifier against Thailand. "The national team commitments have caused him some physical problems over the last four months," he said of Mooy, who has already played 24 competitive matches this season. "So many times he has travelled, so many time changes and so many games he has played," he said. Manchester City keeping close tabs on Mooy Aaron Mooy has confirmed he's being closely monitored by Manchester City throughout his loan stint at Huddersfield Town, renewing hopes the Socceroos midfielder could yet play for the English Premier League giants. "I tried to make sure we only bring him on the grass when he is a fresh as he can be. "So he has played some games not from the beginning and we gave him some days off when the rest of the squad was training "This is why I spoke with the national manager of Australia as well because it's not only us who has to pay for this. "It’s why we can together manage Aaron, so he keeps healthy, this is the biggest thing. "Both mangers like to have him and now we have this busy international period behind us we look forward to keeping him as fresh as we can because we need him at the highest level. "I totally and accept that he (Postecoglou) said (when) I asked him to give Aaron some days off before the Thailand match. "I understand he likes to have all his players together as soon as he can. I was able to give him advice from my point of view on what Aaron needs and he has to make the decision and his decision was to call him in very early. "He said he likes to give him a separate program and of course he knows how he was used over the last four months." "The manager did a good job so far for Australia and now we have to make sure Aaron helps us to get some points on the table." Softly spoken and self-effacing, Mooy prefers to do his talking on the field, with Wagner observing: "When I first met him we went to dinner together ... he is a very quiet person and he is still quiet. "But he's totally relaxed, which is important when you play at the highest level. He is very football intelligent and knows when to accelerate and when to decelerate the game and he makes so many details right and he has a very big influence on our game. "We had conversations with Aaron about being a number 10 or a number eight and I was totally open about both positions but now I am totally sure he isn't a number 10, he's a number eight . “Our identity and style suits a player like him who is so comfortable on the ball.” Fully aware of the insecurities and unpredictability of a coach's life, Wagner was reluctant to talk about the future of Mooy at Huddersfield beyond this season. Huddersfield fans vote Mooy the best as Terriers fail Sheffield test Australia star Aaron Mooy has been voted by Huddersfield Town's fans as their player of the season so far – but he would have happily swapped the accolade for three points over the weekend. "I have no problem if I am able to work longer at this club with Aaron," he said. "But one thing in this business .. I don't look too far away in the future. We have to be focused on the present and for us that is the next game. "We have been a surprise package so far this season but this doesn't change our passion to still successful. "We are still greedy to get some points but where we will be at the end of the season nobody knows. "We have to make sure we perform and for this we need a strong Aaron Mooy, for sure." Thanks for posting. Interesting read, particularly the number 8 decision.
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Post by melbournelad on Dec 2, 2016 0:42:19 GMT 1
That was what prompted me and finally put to bed this #10 nonsense. Also what's interesting is the relationship with Postecoglou and what's best for Aaron overall.
He has definitely tapered off so with less national duty in the short term hopefully he can lift again and the team as well.
A 10% increase across the entire group will get you blokes back in the race.
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Post by dumbo on Dec 2, 2016 11:01:16 GMT 1
That was what prompted me and finally put to bed this #10 nonsense. Also what's interesting is the relationship with Postecoglou and what's best for Aaron overall. He has definitely tapered off so with less national duty in the short term hopefully he can lift again and the team as well. A 10% increase across the entire group will get you blokes back in the race. Has he not been playing No 10 for Austrailia? I had thought it was a kind of diamond formation with Jedinak in DM and Mooy in AM. You have to respect international call ups and accept that as part and parcel of having a good player, seems Wagner does and I hope he will get a good relationship with Postecoglou. For us it's quite rare to have this problem and at the same time we don't have as deep a squad as some of our rivals it impacts us a bit more. I think Mooy looked a little off the pace after the last trip and I'm glad he won't be flying around for a bit.
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Post by lahdeedah on Dec 3, 2016 3:10:37 GMT 1
That was what prompted me and finally put to bed this #10 nonsense. Also what's interesting is the relationship with Postecoglou and what's best for Aaron overall. He has definitely tapered off so with less national duty in the short term hopefully he can lift again and the team as well. A 10% increase across the entire group will get you blokes back in the race. Has he not been playing No 10 for Austrailia? I had thought it was a kind of diamond formation with Jedinak in DM and Mooy in AM. You have to respect international call ups and accept that as part and parcel of having a good player, seems Wagner does and I hope he will get a good relationship with Postecoglou. For us it's quite rare to have this problem and at the same time we don't have as deep a squad as some of our rivals it impacts us a bit more. I think Mooy looked a little off the pace after the last trip and I'm glad he won't be flying around for a bit. No he hasn't really been playing in the 10 role. In the national team he usually plays as an 8, rogic is the 10 usually.
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Post by CaptainHart on Dec 7, 2016 11:22:43 GMT 1
Wins Australian PFA award link
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Post by BottomLip on Dec 7, 2016 13:00:47 GMT 1
I'm pretty blasé about this to be honest. He could be great, but it feels like 'the City network' and his agent just wanted to find a Championship team in which he'll get game time, so they can sell on and get some profit. I could be wrong of course. Fnd, how blasé you feeling ;-) He's alrighttttt I guess....
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Dec 7, 2016 18:19:11 GMT 1
Wins Australian PFA award linkAbsolute class footballer, really enjoy watching him tbh. Would love to sign him but can't see it. Great honour for him and he seems Such a Unassuming Bloke.
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Dec 7, 2016 20:28:49 GMT 1
Wins Australian PFA award linkAbsolute class footballer, really enjoy watching him tbh. Would love to sign him but can't see it. Great honour for him and he seems Such a Unassuming Bloke. If we get a goalscorer in January and get our season back on track, then who knows what could happen in the summer.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2016 10:05:10 GMT 1
I'm pretty blasé about this to be honest. He could be great, but it feels like 'the City network' and his agent just wanted to find a Championship team in which he'll get game time, so they can sell on and get some profit. I could be wrong of course. Fnd, how blasé you feeling ;-) He's alrighttttt I guess.... Trawling back for a quote back in July. Classy. For what it's worth, after seeing him play a few games now I think that he's clearly a very good player, but probably a bit too slow to make it much higher than lower Premiership level. He looks great when we're on top, but when we need to scrap down he often goes missing. He also doesn't have the stamina to play for a full 90 minutes, which hurts us in the 60-80 minute period in a match when he starts.
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Dec 8, 2016 11:23:36 GMT 1
Fnd, how blasé you feeling ;-) He's alrighttttt I guess.... Trawling back for a quote back in July. Classy. For what it's worth, after seeing him play a few games now I think that he's clearly a very good player, but probably a bit too slow to make it much higher than lower Premiership level. He looks great when we're on top, but when we need to scrap down he often goes missing. He also doesn't have the stamina to play for a full 90 minutes, which hurts us in the 60-80 minute period in a match when he starts. When we're under the cosh Mooy gets stuck in, at one point early in the season he had completed the most passes and tackles in the league. His defensive game is far better than I had hoped and a lot better than Clayton's was when he was here, although Hogg is doing a lot more spade work beside him now than Clayton's partners used to... including Hogg himself. I agree his pace isn't great and will hold him back, but I think that's his only real weakness. He's comfortably premier league quality and will get better with better players that anticipate his clever reverse passes.
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Dec 8, 2016 11:23:58 GMT 1
Fnd, how blasé you feeling ;-) He's alrighttttt I guess.... Trawling back for a quote back in July. Classy. For what it's worth, after seeing him play a few games now I think that he's clearly a very good player, but probably a bit too slow to make it much higher than lower Premiership level. He looks great when we're on top, but when we need to scrap down he often goes missing. He also doesn't have the stamina to play for a full 90 minutes, which hurts us in the 60-80 minute period in a match when he starts. When we're under the cosh Mooy gets stuck in, at one point early in the season he had completed the most passes and tackles in the league. His defensive game is far better than I had hoped and a lot better than Clayton's was when he was here, although Hogg is doing a lot more spade work beside him now than Clayton's partners used to... including Hogg himself. I agree his pace isn't great and will hold him back, but I think that's his only real weakness. He's comfortably premier league quality and will get better with better players that anticipate his clever reverse passes.
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Post by BottomLip on Dec 8, 2016 13:03:05 GMT 1
Fnd, how blasé you feeling ;-) He's alrighttttt I guess.... Trawling back for a quote back in July. Classy. For what it's worth, after seeing him play a few games now I think that he's clearly a very good player, but probably a bit too slow to make it much higher than lower Premiership level. He looks great when we're on top, but when we need to scrap down he often goes missing. He also doesn't have the stamina to play for a full 90 minutes, which hurts us in the 60-80 minute period in a match when he starts. FND get your head out your arse. It was a tongue in cheek home comment, think the wink face gave that away. I opened the thread up and saw that, fucking hell folk on here need a sense of humour.
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