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Post by Grandfather Berty of Cleck on Oct 29, 2016 23:27:16 GMT 1
I have thought him and Schindler have just been going through the motions for a while now. You just going to keep posting that same comment in as many threads as you can? Only when relevant. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2016 1:16:52 GMT 1
Performances across the whole team were nowhere near acceptable level today. I would say the back 5 and midfield two all had comfortably their worst games of the season. wells and kachunga chased shadows. Wells didn't get 1 good pass all game. Bunn tried but no end product this week (unlike last week)
Teams have focussed on our approach and unpicked it a little. We caught teams a little cold this season. Fulham, Derby, Wednesday & Preston all closed us high up the pitch leaving cbs hoofing long to wells or kachunga and subsequent loss of possession.
We need a plan b and the team needs a freshen up...but are the squad players ready to step up?
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Post by morleyterrier on Oct 30, 2016 3:58:54 GMT 1
Performances across the whole team were nowhere near acceptable level today. I would say the back 5 and midfield two all had comfortably their worst games of the season. wells and kachunga chased shadows. Wells didn't get 1 good pass all game. Bunn tried but no end product this week (unlike last week) Teams have focussed on our approach and unpicked it a little. We caught teams a little cold this season. Fulham, Derby, Wednesday & Preston all closed us high up the pitch leaving cbs hoofing long to wells or kachunga and subsequent loss of possession. We need a plan b and the team needs a freshen up...but are the squad players ready to step up? After that Joe, who keeps their place?, not one of them turned up yesterday. Very rare do you see a match where you can't give any Player any Credit whatsoever. I think Hogg was only banned for one match so he comes back, as will VLP and I personally would give Murphy a run out in goal. Hef will get a game also I think. Be interesting to see just how many changes he makes for Saturday. |
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Post by jimmythebulldog on Oct 30, 2016 4:02:39 GMT 1
Lowe is class. So is Schindler.
They've moved countries - leagues - cultures.
Both of them have had to cope with a lot over the past few months.
One shit game, two shit games, five shit games - both are quality and should be supported.
They'll do far more than good. And they'll get us promoted this year.
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Post by Metch on Oct 30, 2016 10:15:25 GMT 1
Noticed at the Derby game that VLP tracked back really well to support Lowe in defence. Pity VLP was poor in attack. When Bunn came on he was a much more potent threat in attack but left Lowe exposed but Derby unable to take advantage. Fulham did. I would go back to Lowe/VLP and keep Bunn as the impact sub, especially for away games. I'm happy with Lowe overall, trouble with the championship is there are some erratic Premiership players in there who occasionally put it altogether.
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Post by andyeastleake on Oct 30, 2016 13:11:42 GMT 1
Hopefully the new lad will start v Brum then. He's been one of our players of the season... If you were manager would you just keep dropping people every time they had a bad game ? Bad Game Ted? Nick would be changing the team during the warm-up. |
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Post by andyeastleake on Oct 30, 2016 13:14:46 GMT 1
Lowe is class. So is Schindler. They've moved countries - leagues - cultures. Both of them have had to cope with a lot over the past few months. One shit game, two shit games, five shit games - both are quality and should be supported. They'll do far more than good. And they'll they may well get us promoted this year. Good post Jimmy. With the change I've suggested it would be a great one. Whilst clearly not out of the question it is still much more unlikely than likely. |
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Post by Essex Terrier on Oct 30, 2016 19:13:39 GMT 1
Lowe has not turned from the best left back we have had in ages, to numpty in 2 weeks.
He wad, is, and will continue to be a top full back for Town.
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Oct 30, 2016 19:24:05 GMT 1
Noticed at the Derby game that VLP tracked back really well to support Lowe in defence. Pity VLP was poor in attack. When Bunn came on he was a much more potent threat in attack but left Lowe exposed but Derby unable to take advantage. Fulham did. I would go back to Lowe/VLP and keep Bunn as the impact sub, especially for away games. I'm happy with Lowe overall, trouble with the championship is there are some erratic Premiership players in there who occasionally put it altogether. Totally disagree about VLP, he didn't track back well at all and the ball was nicked from him far too easily. Defensively he is a liability and not much better going forward |
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Post by detox on Oct 30, 2016 19:31:50 GMT 1
some of these comments are unbelievable ..ok, you're upset - go to the pub ffs
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Oct 30, 2016 20:01:19 GMT 1
Lowe has not turned from the best left back we have had in ages, to numpty in 2 weeks. He wad, is, and will continue to be a top full back for Town. ....and he won't be playing against Aluko next week. |
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Oct 30, 2016 20:05:24 GMT 1
Noticed at the Derby game that VLP tracked back really well to support Lowe in defence. Pity VLP was poor in attack. When Bunn came on he was a much more potent threat in attack but left Lowe exposed but Derby unable to take advantage. Fulham did. I would go back to Lowe/VLP and keep Bunn as the impact sub, especially for away games. I'm happy with Lowe overall, trouble with the championship is there are some erratic Premiership players in there who occasionally put it altogether. Totally disagree about VLP, he didn't track back well at all and the ball was nicked from him far too easily. Defensively he is a liability and not much better going forward I've changed my mind about him. Think we badly need him in the team to carry the ball and a threat going forward. Defenders don't like playing against him. He has improved a great deal in terms of his defensive work. He is a tremendous out ball in several areas of the pitch. |
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Post by Detective Boyle on Oct 30, 2016 21:02:44 GMT 1
One of the worst defensive performances I've ever seen. Not just him though all the back 4. I really couldn't believe my eyes, how every cross into the box there were on average 2 players free!!!!!
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Post by walshy on Oct 31, 2016 6:03:54 GMT 1
Premiership quality - Aluko. From the highlights, it looked as if he ripped us a new one.. |
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Post by morleyterrier on Oct 31, 2016 6:55:06 GMT 1
Premiership quality - Aluko. From the highlights, it looked as if he ripped us a new one.. Walshy, he was right up there with the best I have seen since we returned to this level. I applauded him off when he got subbed (personally, I think their Manager was showing us mercy). I wasn't the only Town fan to applaud him off either. |
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Post by townrwe on Oct 31, 2016 9:05:11 GMT 1
They are obviously first choice at the back.... schindler has been awsome, louwe less so but had a good start.
It comes down to management and the message the boss is giving off. Wagner seems to rotate based on fitness rather than form. So maybe "first choice" players are becoming comfortable....
For me after a 5-0 drubbing. The boss has to make a statement that its unacceptable. If that means dropping some of schindlr, louwe, ward, hudson, smith then so be it. They need abit of a rocket. 8 goals conceded in two away games.
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Post by York Terrier on Oct 31, 2016 19:23:00 GMT 1
No point having a massive squad of players, if players play shit and keep getting picked? Our defence, and Danny Ward truly horrendous against preston and Fulham. Someone needs to claim the god dam 18 yard box! We just stand there waiting for the worse to happen. Agree I was only 4 rows off the front ( so I could sit down) level with the back post and the Fulham player for the first and third goals was heading the ball unchallenged in the 6yd box which has to be goalkeepers territory |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2016 20:22:10 GMT 1
No point having a massive squad of players, if players play shit and keep getting picked? Our defence, and Danny Ward truly horrendous against preston and Fulham. Someone needs to claim the god dam 18 yard box! We just stand there waiting for the worse to happen. Agree I was only 4 rows off the front ( so I could sit down) level with the back post and the Fulham player for the first and third goals was heading the ball unchallenged in the 6yd box which has to be goalkeepers territory The first goal was actually chested down from seven yards and away from goal for the strike. The only way Ward could have claimed that would have been to race 10 or 12 yards of his line to intercept and claim it at it's highest point. Not an easy thing to do with a ball coming in at that angle and trajectory. |
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Oct 31, 2016 21:05:31 GMT 1
They are obviously first choice at the back.... schindler has been awsome, louwe less so but had a good start. It comes down to management and the message the boss is giving off. Wagner seems to rotate based on fitness rather than form. So maybe "first choice" players are becoming comfortable.... For me after a 5-0 drubbing. The boss has to make a statement that its unacceptable. If that means dropping some of schindlr, louwe, ward, hudson, smith then so be it. They need abit of a rocket. 8 goals conceded in two away games. Loewe and Smith aren't going to be playing against Aluko next week. Have to worry about the set pieces again though with Cotterill's delivery. |
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Post by York Terrier on Oct 31, 2016 21:43:34 GMT 1
Agree I was only 4 rows off the front ( so I could sit down) level with the back post and the Fulham player for the first and third goals was heading the ball unchallenged in the 6yd box which has to be goalkeepers territory The first goal was actually chested down from seven yards and away from goal for the strike. The only way Ward could have claimed that would have been to race 10 or 12 yards of his line to intercept and claim it at it's highest point. Not an easy thing to do with a ball coming in at that angle and trajectory. Sorry not correct the player at the back post was in the 6yd box he actually made a mess of the header it hit him on the shoulder and bounced to an unmarked Martin a cross coming in from that far out should have been caught in my opinion with Ward having plenty of time to get to the back post and punch clear. The same for the third |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2016 21:52:02 GMT 1
First goal - The ball is floated in from 40 yards. Ward started around 5 yards out because you can see him retreating as the ball gets closer. A commanding keeper would have been out and punching that one away, especially give he wouldn't have had to come through any bodies to do so
The other goals there was little he could do about
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Post by hypotenuse on Oct 31, 2016 21:58:59 GMT 1
I don't think Ward was at his best today - sluggish distribution and hesitant punching - but to blame him for any of the goals shows a laughable lack of understanding of the game.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2016 22:15:12 GMT 1
The first goal was actually chested down from seven yards and away from goal for the strike. The only way Ward could have claimed that would have been to race 10 or 12 yards of his line to intercept and claim it at it's highest point. Not an easy thing to do with a ball coming in at that angle and trajectory. Sorry not correct the player at the back post was in the 6yd box he actually made a mess of the header it hit him on the shoulder and bounced to an unmarked Martin a cross coming in from that far out should have been caught in my opinion with Ward having plenty of time to get to the back post and punch clear. The same for the third The player who chested the ball down was stood 7 yards out and near enough central, not in the six yard box and not at the back post, so what the back post has to do with it i've no idea. As i said the trajectory and angle it was coming in at would have necessitated Ward coming out 10 to 12 yards. As regards 'punching the ball' as someone suggested because it was 'floated in' and there were no bodies in the way, why punch if that's the case? Anyone stating that balls across the six yard box should be claimed in a lot of cases i would agree, the Barnsley goal being a fair criticism. Anyway it's just my opinion and you have yours. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2016 22:22:28 GMT 1
DATM never fails to make me laugh. Time for Holmes-Dennis? Pull the other one. Lowe has been solid this season, the only reason he's not been man of the match on several occasions is because the midfield has been mostly so good. Second or third best player on pitch against Derby after Palmer and maybe Hogg. He had one bad game jeez, even Messi has them from time to time. Ronaldo was awful for Madrid two or three games ago when they lost.
The overreactions you get on here are honestly embarrassing
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2016 22:29:12 GMT 1
First goal - The ball is floated in from 40 yards. Ward started around 5 yards out because you can see him retreating as the ball gets closer. A commanding keeper would have been out and punching that one away, especially give he wouldn't have had to come through any bodies to do so The other goals there was little he could do about Suggest you take note the sharpness of the balls descent and the reason for the mistimed header. Seen many a keeper misjudge and be left in no mans land. The cross should have been dealt with in my opinion but not by Ward. |
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Post by WaterlooTerrier on Nov 1, 2016 11:08:15 GMT 1
Loewe was too slow and hesitant, and was guilty for the first two goals, at least. I was surprised at how badly he played. I'm curious as to how he was at fault for the first goal. Schindler misreads the flight of the ball and Martin peels off Smith/Hudson. |
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Nov 4, 2016 19:32:18 GMT 1
Will he be selected ?
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Post by teddytheterrier on Nov 4, 2016 19:36:21 GMT 1
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Nov 4, 2016 19:39:21 GMT 1
Hope he gets finger out, shocking at Preston and Fulham. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2016 19:44:00 GMT 1
Loewe was awful at Preston but came back well against Derby, needs to do the same tomorrow after another poor game at Fulham. TBF he's had more good games than bad let's hope he's on form against Brum.
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