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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on May 26, 2019 11:18:28 GMT 1
Im not confident at all with this new owner big time charlie.
I dont see much investment in players coming and lots of good players are leaving.
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Post by htafc on May 26, 2019 11:40:28 GMT 1
patient we have young lads coming up
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Post by crux on May 26, 2019 12:18:28 GMT 1
Im not confident at all with this new owner big time charlie. I dont see much investment in players coming and lots of good players are leaving.  are you on about. At the moment ONE player has left who was under contract and most of us would have liked to stay. If we get to the end of July with another half dozen gone and no replacements you can start to get worried. |
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Post by Headless Chicken on May 26, 2019 12:36:22 GMT 1
We now have a crazy level of expectation. We supposedly need a backup player who can hit the ground running in every position. Mental. We ain't got the funds for that, not without lessening the first choice, as our budget is blown on contingencies. A few flexible players will hopefully help us keep our squad lean and provide scope for young lads to break through! What would be crazy is a club going into the championship with so many weeks with two games, not having two decent players per position. We face half the squad leaving, and the rest having hefty wage cuts due to relegation clauses in their contracts. The least i expect is a squad worthy of competing at this level, week in week out with the £45m parachute payments this season! You're expecting almost the best case scenario and one that even the likes of Villa maybe don't have. There probably isn't a team in the division who has two players specialised for each position and are what you'd roughly deem Championship standard. Also, a large amount of the parachute payments will be allocated to cover the excessive wages we now have, even accounting for the relegation clause. We aren't suddenly going to be buying a second choice right back for £4m. |
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Post by 28901 on May 26, 2019 12:40:05 GMT 1
Would still say in a bar fight I want Hogg by my side, however if I needed someone to disappear no questions asked I’d ask Chris Lowe. Not sure what you mean. When has Lowe disappeared? Stood up to take crucial pens twice, came back stronger and saw off Malone when he came to replace him, recovered from a clear loss of confidence in the first prem season to be one of the first name on the team sheet.Not forgetting he signed for a club that finished just narrowly avoided relegation to the third tier. |
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on May 26, 2019 12:41:32 GMT 1
Would still say in a bar fight I want Hogg by my side, however if I needed someone to disappear no questions asked I’d ask Chris Lowe. Not sure what you mean. When has Lowe disappeared? Stood up to take crucial pens twice, came back stronger and saw off Malone when he came to replace him, recovered from a clear loss of confidence in the first prem season to be one of the first name on the team sheet.Not forgetting he signed for a club that finished just narrowly avoided relegation to the third tier. I didn’t read it like that. I thought he meant ‘someone to disappear’ as sleeping with the fishes. |
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Post by 28901 on May 26, 2019 12:44:56 GMT 1
Not sure what you mean. When has Lowe disappeared? Stood up to take crucial pens twice, came back stronger and saw off Malone when he came to replace him, recovered from a clear loss of confidence in the first prem season to be one of the first name on the team sheet.Not forgetting he signed for a club that finished just narrowly avoided relegation to the third tier. I didn’t read it like that. I thought he meant ‘someone to disappear’ as sleeping with the fishes. Fair enough. I did say I wasnt sure. |
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Post by Up the Duff. on May 26, 2019 13:29:53 GMT 1
We now have a crazy level of expectation. We supposedly need a backup player who can hit the ground running in every position. Mental. We ain't got the funds for that, not without lessening the first choice, as our budget is blown on contingencies. A few flexible players will hopefully help us keep our squad lean and provide scope for young lads to break through! What would be crazy is a club going into the championship with so many weeks with two games, not having two decent players per position. We face half the squad leaving, and the rest having hefty wage cuts due to relegation clauses in their contracts. The least i expect is a squad worthy of competing at this level, week in week out with the £45m parachute payments this season! 100% agree. We will be massively reducing our wage bill and bringing in a lot in transfer fees. We then have parachute payments. If we can’t afford a good solid squad now then we never will. |
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Post by colnevalleyblue on May 26, 2019 13:31:01 GMT 1
If I was a bird and looking for love, Chris is exactly the type of man I'd want to spend the rest of my life with.
Easy on the eye.
A man of respect and reliability.
A provider.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on May 26, 2019 13:38:44 GMT 1
If I was a bird and looking for love, Chris is exactly the type of man I'd want to spend the rest of my life with. Easy on the eye. A man of respect and reliability. A provider. he might be useless in nawty bit though ! |
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Post by Headless Chicken on May 26, 2019 13:41:17 GMT 1
What would be crazy is a club going into the championship with so many weeks with two games, not having two decent players per position. We face half the squad leaving, and the rest having hefty wage cuts due to relegation clauses in their contracts. The least i expect is a squad worthy of competing at this level, week in week out with the £45m parachute payments this season! 100% agree. We will be massively reducing our wage bill and bringing in a lot in transfer fees. We then have parachute payments. If we can’t afford a good solid squad now then we never will. I agree we need a good solid squad and should be able to afford one, but Melc seems to be expecting one where the second choice for every position is a Championship fully ready player. That is beyond a good solid squad and arguably blocks development to boot. |
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Post by Melc on May 26, 2019 16:15:42 GMT 1
100% agree. We will be massively reducing our wage bill and bringing in a lot in transfer fees. We then have parachute payments. If we can’t afford a good solid squad now then we never will. I agree we need a good solid squad and should be able to afford one, but Melc seems to be expecting one where the second choice for every position is a Championship fully ready player. That is beyond a good solid squad and arguably blocks development to boot. I expect most positions to be covered yes, but if the management team believe some young players could cover or play at a level needed then yes they should be used. My main point is I don’t think it is being unrealistic to have a squad capable of challenging next season. |
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Post by Headless Chicken on May 26, 2019 16:20:52 GMT 1
I agree we need a good solid squad and should be able to afford one, but Melc seems to be expecting one where the second choice for every position is a Championship fully ready player. That is beyond a good solid squad and arguably blocks development to boot. I expect most positions to be covered yes, but if the management team believe some young players could cover or play at a level needed then yes they should be used. My main point is I don’t think it is being unrealistic to have a squad capable of challenging next season. Ok - I don't think we are actually as far off in our views as it seemed. |
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Post by impact on May 26, 2019 16:48:11 GMT 1
100% agree. We will be massively reducing our wage bill and bringing in a lot in transfer fees. We then have parachute payments. If we can’t afford a good solid squad now then we never will. I agree we need a good solid squad and should be able to afford one, but Melc seems to be expecting one where the second choice for every position is a Championship fully ready player. That is beyond a good solid squad and arguably blocks development to boot. Not full starters, but the 2nd XI should be capable of playing championship level. We managed it last time on a far smaller budget. Coleman - L1 regular Cranie - L1 regular and experienced Hudson - Championship regular and experienced Stankovic - Young prospect with little experience but OK as we had 3 other CBs. THD - Young prospect who'd played 50+ games in the FL. Billing - Clearly talented young player Whitehead - Experienced pro Lolley - Exciting talent on the back of a great half season the year before Payne - L2 regular Bunn - More than adequate championship backup I don't think it's unreasonable to have backup players of similar standards to last time. We got promoted by being able to rotate players and knowing the 2nd string could compete. Jaden Brown may be a great player in years to come, but with just 1 senior appearance he shouldn't be the sole backup left-back. |
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Post by Headless Chicken on May 26, 2019 17:00:24 GMT 1
I agree we need a good solid squad and should be able to afford one, but Melc seems to be expecting one where the second choice for every position is a Championship fully ready player. That is beyond a good solid squad and arguably blocks development to boot. Not full starters, but the 2nd XI should be capable of playing championship level. We managed it last time on a far smaller budget. Coleman - L1 regular Cranie - L1 regular and experienced Hudson - Championship regular and experienced Stankovic - Young prospect with little experience but OK as we had 3 other CBs. THD - Young prospect who'd played 50+ games in the FL. Billing - Clearly talented young player Whitehead - Experienced pro Lolley - Exciting talent on the back of a great half season the year before Payne - L2 regular Bunn - More than adequate championship backup I don't think it's unreasonable to have backup players of similar standards to last time. We got promoted by being able to rotate players and knowing the 2nd string could compete. Jaden Brown may be a great player in years to come, but with just 1 senior appearance he shouldn't be the sole backup left-back. The reserves shouldn't detract too much from the team, but they are almost inevitably going to be a drop in standard, other than if they are a developing player who quickly finds their feet. I actually expect a much better level of stand ins than we had last time! |
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Post by yappledapple on May 26, 2019 19:53:02 GMT 1
Im not confident at all with this new owner big time charlie. I dont see much investment in players coming and lots of good players are leaving. At DH's recent Q&A, he said that there would be a period of 'wait and see' at the season end regarding current players as to which ones would be going and which ones would be staying and from a finance perspective they could then assess the situation. Once there was a clear picture of all the outgoings, he and Phil would be the main ones involved in the negotiations for the selling and buying (but not necessarily the selection).
There will be lots of things happening behind the scenes, and yes it has gone a bit quiet, excepting the players leaving, but it is playing out exactly how DH said it would. We've just got to be that bit patient; no doubt there will be lots of irons in the fire and once we definitely know how much is coming in for those players we sell (eg: Billing etc.), then they will start confirming all the new faces.
Also, players are now on their holidays, so there was always going to be this lull as their agents silently go to work trying to find new clubs for them.
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Post by ldotm on May 26, 2019 20:22:56 GMT 1
If I was a bird and looking for love, Chris is exactly the type of man I'd want to spend the rest of my life with. Easy on the eye. A man of respect and reliability. A provider. he might be useless in nawty bit though ! Strange bloke |
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2019 20:48:13 GMT 1
Im not confident at all with this new owner big time charlie. I dont see much investment in players coming and lots of good players are leaving. At DH's recent Q&A, he said that there would be a period of 'wait and see' at the season end regarding current players as to which ones would be going and which ones would be staying and from a finance perspective they could then assess the situation. Once there was a clear picture of all the outgoings, he and Phil would be the main ones involved in the negotiations for the selling and buying (but not necessarily the selection). There will be lots of things happening behind the scenes, and yes it has gone a bit quiet, excepting the players leaving, but it is playing out exactly how DH said it would. We've just got to be that bit patient; no doubt there will be lots of irons in the fire and once we definitely know how much is coming in for those players we sell (eg: Billing etc.), then they will start confirming all the new faces.
Also, players are now on their holidays, so there was always going to be this lull as their agents silently go to work trying to find new clubs for them.
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Post by brodie81 on May 26, 2019 22:16:05 GMT 1
Im not confident at all with this new owner big time charlie. I dont see much investment in players coming and lots of good players are leaving. are you on about. At the moment ONE player has left who was under contract and most of us would have liked to stay. If we get to the end of July with another half dozen gone and no replacements you can start to get worried. I’ve no confidence in you NOT receiving a lifetime ban from here. |
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2019 17:04:30 GMT 1
We now have a crazy level of expectation. We supposedly need a backup player who can hit the ground running in every position. Mental. We ain't got the funds for that, not without lessening the first choice, as our budget is blown on contingencies. A few flexible players will hopefully help us keep our squad lean and provide scope for young lads to break through! What would be crazy is a club going into the championship with so many weeks with two games, not having two decent players per position. We face half the squad leaving, and the rest having hefty wage cuts due to relegation clauses in their contracts. The least i expect is a squad worthy of competing at this level, week in week out with the £45m parachute payments this season! Well we just came off the back of two seasons as an EPL team and five years in the Championship without ever having two decent players for every position...so I’ll be flabbergasted if we can somehow create a more complete squad this summer when we’re in a period of such massive transition having to build a squad that doesn’t breach the different home grown player rule you have in the Football League and needing to knock millions off the wage bill if we’re to become a well managed Championship club with no risk of relegation or points deductions over the next 5 years or so... |
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Post by ACW on May 27, 2019 17:24:30 GMT 1
Chris Lowe was a very good signing for us. An integral member of the promotion team and a regular in a team that survived in the Premier League. If I'm being brutally honest, he was not Premier League quality, but we can level that criticism at plenty of our squad. He did more than enough in a Town shirt and will go down as one of our best fullbacks - certainly in my time watching Town. If we replace him with a player of similar quality, with the same attitude, I'll be more than happy.
Good luck for the future Chris, and thanks for the memories - you were a major part of the happiest time I've ever had as a Town supporter.
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Post by Melc on May 28, 2019 0:00:58 GMT 1
What would be crazy is a club going into the championship with so many weeks with two games, not having two decent players per position. We face half the squad leaving, and the rest having hefty wage cuts due to relegation clauses in their contracts. The least i expect is a squad worthy of competing at this level, week in week out with the £45m parachute payments this season! Well we just came off the back of two seasons as an EPL team and five years in the Championship without ever having two decent players for every position...so I’ll be flabbergasted if we can somehow create a more complete squad this summer when we’re in a period of such massive transition having to build a squad that doesn’t breach the different home grown player rule you have in the Football League and needing to knock millions off the wage bill if we’re to become a well managed Championship club with no risk of relegation or points deductions over the next 5 years or so... What has the home rule of players got to do with Town building a decent squad to cover most positions got to do with it? As for the so called wage bill, no doubt after the 40/50% reduction of wages due to relegation, and the likely departure of around 10 players on the reduced rate with the parachute payment this season, then we should be able to build a decent squad. |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2019 0:32:18 GMT 1
Well we just came off the back of two seasons as an EPL team and five years in the Championship without ever having two decent players for every position...so I’ll be flabbergasted if we can somehow create a more complete squad this summer when we’re in a period of such massive transition having to build a squad that doesn’t breach the different home grown player rule you have in the Football League and needing to knock millions off the wage bill if we’re to become a well managed Championship club with no risk of relegation or points deductions over the next 5 years or so... What has the home rule of players got to do with Town building a decent squad to cover most positions got to do with it? As for the so called wage bill, no doubt after the 40/50% reduction of wages due to relegation, and the likely departure of around 10 players on the reduced rate with the parachute payment this season, then we should be able to build a decent squad. Every match day squad has to contain a minimum of seven home grown players in the Championship. If you can’t look at our current squad and see how that is going to adversely impact us and our summer signings then I don’t know what else to add. Likewise talk of 40 and 50% reductions in wages being of benefit is pretty spurious given revenues will be reduced this coming season by around 60% We support a club on the verge of utter ruin and backed by largely blinkered fans, the next couple of years are much more important than the last two with regards to the future longevity of Hudds Town. |
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are you on about. At the moment ONE player has left who was under contract and most of us would have liked to stay. If we get to the end of July with another half dozen gone and no replacements you can start to get worried. 
